[hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608814 I am really disappointed about that, as player and server-hoster ... That is a bad hit for the community ... That servers were always full and people loved it ... Without words ... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?
Andreas Grimm wrote: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608814 I am really disappointed about that, as player and server-hoster ... That is a bad hit for the community ... That servers were always full and people loved it ... Without words ... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Aye, seems like valve doesn't like server admins ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?
I wish they could do the same to Counter-Strike: Source. On 10/10/2007, [ЯтR] The-/iller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Grimm wrote: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608814 I am really disappointed about that, as player and server-hoster ... That is a bad hit for the community ... That servers were always full and people loved it ... Without words ... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Aye, seems like valve doesn't like server admins ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?
Roman Hatsiev wrote: I wish they could do the same to Counter-Strike: Source. On 10/10/2007, [ЯтR] The-/iller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Grimm wrote: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608814 I am really disappointed about that, as player and server-hoster ... That is a bad hit for the community ... That servers were always full and people loved it ... Without words ... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Aye, seems like valve doesn't like server admins ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds The servers can get crazy but that craziness brings a whole new gameplay, why erode diversity from the games, just like the custom maps post earlier today. Does everyone forget what valves multiplayer is based on, originally custom mods. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] mapcycle broken with Oct 9 update
We've went through the doubling up the map names to get the mapcycle to run in its entirety earlier and then it was fixed with the Oct 8 update. Withthe Oct 9 update, the mapcycle is again broken. It plays the same map over and over. Maps must be changed with rcon changelevel command. Not good for the opening day. I cant babysit 2 servers all day and manually change maps. :( Help please Thanks Rosie the Riveter Sunlit Games http://www.sunlitgames.net ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] hehe, Its not admins.. it seems valve don't like n00bs, 32 player n00b fests! I won't miss them.. been there, ran them... moved on - Original Message From: [ЯтR] The-/iller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:12:40 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out? Andreas Grimm wrote: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608814 I am really disappointed about that, as player and server-hoster ... That is a bad hit for the community ... That servers were always full and people loved it ... Without words ... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Aye, seems like valve doesn't like server admins ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] hldsupdatetool: ContentServer rejected client session login
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I get the following when I try to update my TF2 server: D:\servers\srcds_tf2Hldsupdatetool -command update -game tf -dir d:\servers\srcds_tf2 -verify_all -retry Checking bootstrapper version ... Updating Installation ContentServer rejected client session login -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Impossible to purchase games with steam/paypal for over a week
Hi, i'd just like to notify you that its impossible last couple of days to buy games trough steam/paypal. When you check payment in steam, it returns a paypal auth error. We have tested this from several locations, with several steam accounts and several paypal accounts. Cheers, Saint K. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] FW: TF2 LAN Server
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Come on guys. I know this question wasn't too hard. I basically would like to know what my install directory should be. Can I just specify C:\SRCDS or do I need to add something like C:\SRCDS\Orangebox to keep files separate? Thanks. _ From: Michael R. Matheson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:35 AM To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com' Subject: TF2 LAN Server I wish to install the dedicated Windows XP TF2 server strictly for LAN play. The following is the shortcut target line I used with the update tool to set up a dedicated HL2DM server. C:\SRCDS\Updater\HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game hl2mp -dir C:\SRCDS I created the Updater folder in my SRCDS directory to store update shortcuts for both HL2DM and CSS. Can someone please tell me how I should modify this target line to optimally install the TF2 server? I'm a little confused by the new orange box folder. I'd like to keep all the servers installed in the same C:\SRCDS folder if possible, unless this isn't advised because of the new engine used in TF2. Thanks for your help. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Re: hldsupdatetool: ContentServer rejected client session login
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'm still getting this error. I'm guessing it is due to the orange box release today. My client did update, so I copied the bin files from the gcfs and everything is working now. On 10/10/07, LDuke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get the following when I try to update my TF2 server: D:\servers\srcds_tf2Hldsupdatetool -command update -game tf -dir d:\servers\srcds_tf2 -verify_all -retry Checking bootstrapper version ... Updating Installation ContentServer rejected client session login -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] FW: TF2 LAN Server
I would recommend that you make a totally isolated install for TF: -dir C:\SRCDS_TF Although the stock mods will be migrated over eventually, for now and through the beta test period you will want to be able to run one or the other so best to keep them separate. - Original Message - From: Michael R. Matheson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:14 AM Subject: [hlds] FW: TF2 LAN Server Come on guys. I know this question wasn't too hard. I basically would like to know what my install directory should be. Can I just specify C:\SRCDS or do I need to add something like C:\SRCDS\Orangebox to keep files separate? Thanks. _ From: Michael R. Matheson Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:35 AM To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com' Subject: TF2 LAN Server I wish to install the dedicated Windows XP TF2 server strictly for LAN play. The following is the shortcut target line I used with the update tool to set up a dedicated HL2DM server. C:\SRCDS\Updater\HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game hl2mp -dir C:\SRCDS I created the Updater folder in my SRCDS directory to store update shortcuts for both HL2DM and CSS. Can someone please tell me how I should modify this target line to optimally install the TF2 server? I'm a little confused by the new orange box folder. I'd like to keep all the servers installed in the same C:\SRCDS folder if possible, unless this isn't advised because of the new engine used in TF2. Thanks for your help. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] FW: TF2 LAN Server
You don't need to specify the orangebox folder in the argument C:\SRCDS will work fine. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Come on guys. I know this question wasn't too hard. I basically would like to know what my install directory should be. Can I just specify C:\SRCDS or do I need to add something like C:\SRCDS\Orangebox to keep files separate? Thanks. _ From: Michael R. Matheson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:35 AM To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com' Subject: TF2 LAN Server I wish to install the dedicated Windows XP TF2 server strictly for LAN play. The following is the shortcut target line I used with the update tool to set up a dedicated HL2DM server. C:\SRCDS\Updater\HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game hl2mp -dir C:\SRCDS I created the Updater folder in my SRCDS directory to store update shortcuts for both HL2DM and CSS. Can someone please tell me how I should modify this target line to optimally install the TF2 server? I'm a little confused by the new orange box folder. I'd like to keep all the servers installed in the same C:\SRCDS folder if possible, unless this isn't advised because of the new engine used in TF2. Thanks for your help. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] FW: TF2 LAN Server
I believe I mis understood your question, As Kevin pointed out it would be a bad idea to put several servers in the same folder. I would recommend that you make a totally isolated install for TF: -dir C:\SRCDS_TF Although the stock mods will be migrated over eventually, for now and through the beta test period you will want to be able to run one or the other so best to keep them separate. - Original Message - From: Michael R. Matheson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:14 AM Subject: [hlds] FW: TF2 LAN Server Come on guys. I know this question wasn't too hard. I basically would like to know what my install directory should be. Can I just specify C:\SRCDS or do I need to add something like C:\SRCDS\Orangebox to keep files separate? Thanks. _ From: Michael R. Matheson Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:35 AM To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com' Subject: TF2 LAN Server I wish to install the dedicated Windows XP TF2 server strictly for LAN play. The following is the shortcut target line I used with the update tool to set up a dedicated HL2DM server. C:\SRCDS\Updater\HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game hl2mp -dir C:\SRCDS I created the Updater folder in my SRCDS directory to store update shortcuts for both HL2DM and CSS. Can someone please tell me how I should modify this target line to optimally install the TF2 server? I'm a little confused by the new orange box folder. I'd like to keep all the servers installed in the same C:\SRCDS folder if possible, unless this isn't advised because of the new engine used in TF2. Thanks for your help. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] FW: TF2 LAN Server
Thank you. I guess the only draw back is that perhaps you end up with some duplicate files in SRCDS and SRCDS_TF. Or will all the TF2 files be new anyway and the TF2 server wouldn't use common files from previous server installs? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Ottalini Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:27 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] FW: TF2 LAN Server I would recommend that you make a totally isolated install for TF: -dir C:\SRCDS_TF Although the stock mods will be migrated over eventually, for now and through the beta test period you will want to be able to run one or the other so best to keep them separate. - Original Message - From: Michael R. Matheson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:14 AM Subject: [hlds] FW: TF2 LAN Server Come on guys. I know this question wasn't too hard. I basically would like to know what my install directory should be. Can I just specify C:\SRCDS or do I need to add something like C:\SRCDS\Orangebox to keep files separate? Thanks. _ From: Michael R. Matheson Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:35 AM To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com' Subject: TF2 LAN Server I wish to install the dedicated Windows XP TF2 server strictly for LAN play. The following is the shortcut target line I used with the update tool to set up a dedicated HL2DM server. C:\SRCDS\Updater\HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game hl2mp -dir C:\SRCDS I created the Updater folder in my SRCDS directory to store update shortcuts for both HL2DM and CSS. Can someone please tell me how I should modify this target line to optimally install the TF2 server? I'm a little confused by the new orange box folder. I'd like to keep all the servers installed in the same C:\SRCDS folder if possible, unless this isn't advised because of the new engine used in TF2. Thanks for your help. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] FW: TF2 LAN Server
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] When installing tf2 just isolate the parent directory with the updatertool ie: c:\srcds. TF2 will create its own sub directory within the parent ie: c:\srcds\orangebox. Your install afterward would resemble: orangebox\tf orangebox\bin orangebox\hl2 orangebox\platform Tf2 will use some shared files from c:\srcds\hl2. Till the other mods are ported over there is no way around it. 18:12:52 Protocol version 11 Exe version 1.0.0.5 (tf) Exe build: 11:47:07 Oct 9 2007 (3258) Bootstrapper version: 20 Versions installed in 'c:\srcds': Source Dedicated Server: 92 Base Source Shared Materials: 8 Base Source Shared Models: 4 Base Source Shared Sounds: 4 Counter-Strike Source Shared Content: 67 Day of Defeat Source Base Content: 23 Team Fortress 2 Dedicated Server: 9 Half-Life 2 Deathmatch: 33 Team Fortress 2 Content: 12 Team Fortress 2 Materials: 5 - Original Message From: Michael R. Matheson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:20:52 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] FW: TF2 LAN Server Thank you. I guess the only draw back is that perhaps you end up with some duplicate files in SRCDS and SRCDS_TF. Or will all the TF2 files be new anyway and the TF2 server wouldn't use common files from previous server installs? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Ottalini Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:27 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] FW: TF2 LAN Server I would recommend that you make a totally isolated install for TF: -dir C:\SRCDS_TF Although the stock mods will be migrated over eventually, for now and through the beta test period you will want to be able to run one or the other so best to keep them separate. - Original Message - From: Michael R. Matheson To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:14 AM Subject: [hlds] FW: TF2 LAN Server Come on guys. I know this question wasn't too hard. I basically would like to know what my install directory should be. Can I just specify C:\SRCDS or do I need to add something like C:\SRCDS\Orangebox to keep files separate? Thanks. _ From: Michael R. Matheson Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:35 AM To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com' Subject: TF2 LAN Server I wish to install the dedicated Windows XP TF2 server strictly for LAN play. The following is the shortcut target line I used with the update tool to set up a dedicated HL2DM server. C:\SRCDS\Updater\HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game hl2mp -dir C:\SRCDS I created the Updater folder in my SRCDS directory to store update shortcuts for both HL2DM and CSS. Can someone please tell me how I should modify this target line to optimally install the TF2 server? I'm a little confused by the new orange box folder. I'd like to keep all the servers installed in the same C:\SRCDS folder if possible, unless this isn't advised because of the new engine used in TF2. Thanks for your help. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?
OUCH!!... To actually go so far as to modify the server browser so that it won't list 32 slot TF2 servers! Never mind fixing the issues the server browser has, with various servers not displaying for whatever reasons. They chose to take away our choices. To run as many slots as we see fit, with the settings we see fit for our community. To the best of my knowledge without any notification or explanation. First FF, now this... All it would have taken was another filter option on the client side to select how many player slots you want display. A useful feature for any mod. Do it in ranges: 1 - 10, 11 - 16, 18 - 24, 25 - 32 Or do it using or any number. An option to filter on a number of players actually playing on servers, rather than just not empty. Any thoughts on this? LET THE PLAYERS AND ADMINS DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES!!! YOUR MAPS WON'T BE THE ONLY MAPS FOR TF2 (or will they? Still no fgd...) I have been hosting only Valve related servers for so many years now, since at least 2000, (WonID anyone?) that this last blow is hitting me really hard. My small community was originally based on CS. Since then we have branched out to other mods such as: CS:S, DOD:S, Gmod 10, Dystopia, Eternal Silence and now TF2. These are just the mods we liked enough to put up servers for. We currently run 18 servers and 3 HLTV servers. The love of doing this for the community is the only thing keeping me from shutting them all down right now. I am still on the fence about keeping our TF2 server up. I pay for the bandwidth and hardware out of my own pocket, I have never asked for nor taken anything from anyone to help pay for this. It truly is something I love to do. Or at least I used to... P.S. I do not use the modified server.dll I use the plugin. Thanks Tony, works great! So today I will post a vote in my forums, to see if TF2 survives or not in our little community. Yours, Truly disappointed, Mike ParaDOX Munoz www.paradisesgarage.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Grimm Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:07 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out? http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608814 I am really disappointed about that, as player and server-hoster ... That is a bad hit for the community ... That servers were always full and people loved it ... Without words ... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?
Removing the option for people to decide how many people they would like to play with sucks... The way in which it has been implented sucks even more.. updating the server browser list not actually borthering to tell us even after the update. We aren't really asking too much to be informed. We have spread across from running 1 css server, to 3 x css servers 1 x tf2 we have coped with previous updates which killed our traffic in css, rebuilt moved forward. Please don't make us leap through hoops, we just want to play the games enjoy them. We have liked every tf2 update so far apart from this one as it removes choice. Please return the choice to the players, if they didn't like it they would not come play putting our tf2 server in the top100 ranked on game monitor. It would be nice if we could filter by players.. for instance I would like to be able to select to see 24 -32 man servers only, this would also be nice for other games like css too. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?
I think the issue here is this is a brand new mod (officially only HOURS old!) and the user experience needs to be uniform and unpatched as much as possible so Valve can calibrate the new engine before porting over all the other mods. Remember that the stats tracking system is brand new as well and hacking the maps and servers will throw off the baseline for stats, in some cases dramatically. Once the engine's behavior and quirks have been thoroughly hashed out, THEN is the time for allowing modifications like this but most certainly NOT by server admins hex editing server binaries. The developers at Valve had very good reasons to set the max number of players at 24, let's give them the a little credit and consideration here ok? In addition, one of the maps tc_hydro has potentially too many base entities for 32 players and could cause servers and clients to crash (but it seems ok with 24 players but might be right at the borderline). qUiCkSiLvEr - Original Message - From: Mike Munoz To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out? OUCH!!... To actually go so far as to modify the server browser so that it won't list 32 slot TF2 servers! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?
I fully agree. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Ottalini Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:35 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out? I think the issue here is this is a brand new mod (officially only HOURS old!) and the user experience needs to be uniform and unpatched as much as possible so Valve can calibrate the new engine before porting over all the other mods. Remember that the stats tracking system is brand new as well and hacking the maps and servers will throw off the baseline for stats, in some cases dramatically. Once the engine's behavior and quirks have been thoroughly hashed out, THEN is the time for allowing modifications like this but most certainly NOT by server admins hex editing server binaries. The developers at Valve had very good reasons to set the max number of players at 24, let's give them the a little credit and consideration here ok? In addition, one of the maps tc_hydro has potentially too many base entities for 32 players and could cause servers and clients to crash (but it seems ok with 24 players but might be right at the borderline). qUiCkSiLvEr - Original Message - From: Mike Munoz To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out? OUCH!!... To actually go so far as to modify the server browser so that it won't list 32 slot TF2 servers! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Amen... - Original Message From: Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:35:14 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out? I think the issue here is this is a brand new mod (officially only HOURS old!) and the user experience needs to be uniform and unpatched as much as possible so Valve can calibrate the new engine before porting over all the other mods. Remember that the stats tracking system is brand new as well and hacking the maps and servers will throw off the baseline for stats, in some cases dramatically. Once the engine's behavior and quirks have been thoroughly hashed out, THEN is the time for allowing modifications like this but most certainly NOT by server admins hex editing server binaries. The developers at Valve had very good reasons to set the max number of players at 24, let's give them the a little credit and consideration here ok? In addition, one of the maps tc_hydro has potentially too many base entities for 32 players and could cause servers and clients to crash (but it seems ok with 24 players but might be right at the borderline). qUiCkSiLvEr - Original Message - From: Mike Munoz To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out? OUCH!!... To actually go so far as to modify the server browser so that it won't list 32 slot TF2 servers! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I say stop B*tching and they might get something done cause they wont have to read all this nonsense/whining. - Original Message From: Robert Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:13:53 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out? -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Amen... - Original Message From: Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:35:14 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out? I think the issue here is this is a brand new mod (officially only HOURS old!) and the user experience needs to be uniform and unpatched as much as possible so Valve can calibrate the new engine before porting over all the other mods. Remember that the stats tracking system is brand new as well and hacking the maps and servers will throw off the baseline for stats, in some cases dramatically. Once the engine's behavior and quirks have been thoroughly hashed out, THEN is the time for allowing modifications like this but most certainly NOT by server admins hex editing server binaries. The developers at Valve had very good reasons to set the max number of players at 24, let's give them the a little credit and consideration here ok? In addition, one of the maps tc_hydro has potentially too many base entities for 32 players and could cause servers and clients to crash (but it seems ok with 24 players but might be right at the borderline). qUiCkSiLvEr - Original Message - From: Mike Munoz To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out? OUCH!!... To actually go so far as to modify the server browser so that it won't list 32 slot TF2 servers! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
