Re: [hlds] Can't connect to my L4D server
You need +ip if you have more then one ip address on the box. Otherwise, just leave it out. This is my startup command line: srcds.exe -console -game left4dead -port 27016 +map l4d_hospital01_apartment It's been up and running for a while and gets a good bit of traffic. However, when I had it on a box with two ip addresses, I got zero traffic until I added +ip to the command line. - Original Message - From: "Michael Krasnow" To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Can't connect to my L4D server sv_lan 1 makes it so its lan only and if your going to do lan only you dont even need +ip On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Alex wrote: > Hey, > > From what I can see, it should be +ip and you need sv_lan "1" in > server.cfg > > These should fix it. > > Regards, > Alex > > -- > From: "Sami Hiltunen" > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:04 AM > To: > Subject: [hlds] Can't connect to my L4D server > > > Hello! > > > > I'm trying to set up my server as I'm going to move it to a local > > datacenter soon, but I have couple of problems. I can't connect to my > > Left 4 Dead server or my Killing Floor servers (Not sure if this belongs > > here?). First off, here are my specs: > > > > MSI P965 Neo > > Intel E6600 2.4 GHz > > Geforce 8800 GTX > > 2 GB RAM > > 500 GB HD > > 650 W Chieftec PSU > > Windows Server 2008 32-bit Standard Edition > > > > The server's LAN IP is 192.168.0.72. I try to connect the L4D server > > through the console with following command: > > [code]connect 192.168.0.72:27015[/code] > > > > It says "Connection failed after 10 retries." > > > > Here's the server config and launching .bat: > > > > [co...@echo off > > cls > > echo Protecting srcds from crashes... > > echo If you want to shutdown the server and this script, close the > > server window and press Y and then Enter > > :l4d > > echo (%time%) Left 4 Dead server started. > > start /wait srcds.exe -console -game left4dead +map > > l4d_vs_hospital01_apartments -maxplayers 8 -autoupdate -ip 192.168.0.72 > > -port 27015 > > echo (%time%) WARNING: Left 4 Dead server crashed, restarting > > goto l4d > > [/code] > > > > That's from SRCDS.com :) Server CFG: > > > > [code]hostname "myservername" // Serverin nimi > > rcon_password "mypw" // RCON Salasana > > > > mp_disable_autokick 1 // Poista autokickki käytöstä > > sv_cheats 0 // Cheatit pois käytöstä > > sv_consistency 1 // Pakota kaikille muokkaamattomat tiedostot > > > > setmaster add 68.142.72.250:27011 > > setmaster add 72.165.61.189:27011 > > hostport 27015 > > sv_lan 0 > > sv_region 4 > > sv_allow_lobby_connect_only 0 > > sv_search_key "mysearchkey" > > > > sv_voiceenable 1 > > sv_alltalk 0 > > [/code] > > > > What am I doing wrong? Windows Firewall is off. > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Can't connect to my L4D server
sv_lan 1 makes it so its lan only and if your going to do lan only you dont even need +ip On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Alex wrote: > Hey, > > From what I can see, it should be +ip and you need sv_lan "1" in server.cfg > > These should fix it. > > Regards, > Alex > > -- > From: "Sami Hiltunen" > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:04 AM > To: > Subject: [hlds] Can't connect to my L4D server > > > Hello! > > > > I'm trying to set up my server as I'm going to move it to a local > > datacenter soon, but I have couple of problems. I can't connect to my > > Left 4 Dead server or my Killing Floor servers (Not sure if this belongs > > here?). First off, here are my specs: > > > > MSI P965 Neo > > Intel E6600 2.4 GHz > > Geforce 8800 GTX > > 2 GB RAM > > 500 GB HD > > 650 W Chieftec PSU > > Windows Server 2008 32-bit Standard Edition > > > > The server's LAN IP is 192.168.0.72. I try to connect the L4D server > > through the console with following command: > > [code]connect 192.168.0.72:27015[/code] > > > > It says "Connection failed after 10 retries." > > > > Here's the server config and launching .bat: > > > > [co...@echo off > > cls > > echo Protecting srcds from crashes... > > echo If you want to shutdown the server and this script, close the > > server window and press Y and then Enter > > :l4d > > echo (%time%) Left 4 Dead server started. > > start /wait srcds.exe -console -game left4dead +map > > l4d_vs_hospital01_apartments -maxplayers 8 -autoupdate -ip 192.168.0.72 > > -port 27015 > > echo (%time%) WARNING: Left 4 Dead server crashed, restarting > > goto l4d > > [/code] > > > > That's from SRCDS.com :) Server CFG: > > > > [code]hostname "myservername" // Serverin nimi > > rcon_password "mypw" // RCON Salasana > > > > mp_disable_autokick 1 // Poista autokickki käytöstä > > sv_cheats 0 // Cheatit pois käytöstä > > sv_consistency 1 // Pakota kaikille muokkaamattomat tiedostot > > > > setmaster add 68.142.72.250:27011 > > setmaster add 72.165.61.189:27011 > > hostport 27015 > > sv_lan 0 > > sv_region 4 > > sv_allow_lobby_connect_only 0 > > sv_search_key "mysearchkey" > > > > sv_voiceenable 1 > > sv_alltalk 0 > > [/code] > > > > What am I doing wrong? Windows Firewall is off. > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Can't connect to my L4D server
Hey, >From what I can see, it should be +ip and you need sv_lan "1" in server.cfg These should fix it. Regards, Alex -- From: "Sami Hiltunen" Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 6:04 AM To: Subject: [hlds] Can't connect to my L4D server > Hello! > > I'm trying to set up my server as I'm going to move it to a local > datacenter soon, but I have couple of problems. I can't connect to my > Left 4 Dead server or my Killing Floor servers (Not sure if this belongs > here?). First off, here are my specs: > > MSI P965 Neo > Intel E6600 2.4 GHz > Geforce 8800 GTX > 2 GB RAM > 500 GB HD > 650 W Chieftec PSU > Windows Server 2008 32-bit Standard Edition > > The server's LAN IP is 192.168.0.72. I try to connect the L4D server > through the console with following command: > [code]connect 192.168.0.72:27015[/code] > > It says "Connection failed after 10 retries." > > Here's the server config and launching .bat: > > [co...@echo off > cls > echo Protecting srcds from crashes... > echo If you want to shutdown the server and this script, close the > server window and press Y and then Enter > :l4d > echo (%time%) Left 4 Dead server started. > start /wait srcds.exe -console -game left4dead +map > l4d_vs_hospital01_apartments -maxplayers 8 -autoupdate -ip 192.168.0.72 > -port 27015 > echo (%time%) WARNING: Left 4 Dead server crashed, restarting > goto l4d > [/code] > > That's from SRCDS.com :) Server CFG: > > [code]hostname "myservername" // Serverin nimi > rcon_password "mypw" // RCON Salasana > > mp_disable_autokick 1 // Poista autokickki käytöstä > sv_cheats 0 // Cheatit pois käytöstä > sv_consistency 1 // Pakota kaikille muokkaamattomat tiedostot > > setmaster add 68.142.72.250:27011 > setmaster add 72.165.61.189:27011 > hostport 27015 > sv_lan 0 > sv_region 4 > sv_allow_lobby_connect_only 0 > sv_search_key "mysearchkey" > > sv_voiceenable 1 > sv_alltalk 0 > [/code] > > What am I doing wrong? Windows Firewall is off. > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Can't connect to my L4D server
You misspelled the startup map. It's l4d_hospital01_apartment, not l4d_hospital01_apartments. Get rid of the "s" at the end of "apartment" Look at the console. Does it show a map is running? Probably not. You can't connect to a server that isn't actually running a map. - Original Message - From: "Michael Krasnow" To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Can't connect to my L4D server if your server is on the same network as you it should be fine but if your not on the same network (not sitting next to the server) you have to have the public ip, not private Mnkras On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Sami Hiltunen wrote: > Hello! > > I'm trying to set up my server as I'm going to move it to a local > datacenter soon, but I have couple of problems. I can't connect to my > Left 4 Dead server or my Killing Floor servers (Not sure if this belongs > here?). First off, here are my specs: > > MSI P965 Neo > Intel E6600 2.4 GHz > Geforce 8800 GTX > 2 GB RAM > 500 GB HD > 650 W Chieftec PSU > Windows Server 2008 32-bit Standard Edition > > The server's LAN IP is 192.168.0.72. I try to connect the L4D server > through the console with following command: > [code]connect 192.168.0.72:27015[/code] > > It says "Connection failed after 10 retries." > > Here's the server config and launching .bat: > > [co...@echo off > cls > echo Protecting srcds from crashes... > echo If you want to shutdown the server and this script, close the > server window and press Y and then Enter > :l4d > echo (%time%) Left 4 Dead server started. > start /wait srcds.exe -console -game left4dead +map > l4d_vs_hospital01_apartments -maxplayers 8 -autoupdate -ip 192.168.0.72 > -port 27015 > echo (%time%) WARNING: Left 4 Dead server crashed, restarting > goto l4d > [/code] > > That's from SRCDS.com :) Server CFG: > > [code]hostname "myservername" // Serverin nimi > rcon_password "mypw" // RCON Salasana > > mp_disable_autokick 1 // Poista autokickki käytöstä > sv_cheats 0 // Cheatit pois käytöstä > sv_consistency 1 // Pakota kaikille muokkaamattomat tiedostot > > setmaster add 68.142.72.250:27011 > setmaster add 72.165.61.189:27011 > hostport 27015 > sv_lan 0 > sv_region 4 > sv_allow_lobby_connect_only 0 > sv_search_key "mysearchkey" > > sv_voiceenable 1 > sv_alltalk 0 > [/code] > > What am I doing wrong? Windows Firewall is off. > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Can't connect to my L4D server
if your server is on the same network as you it should be fine but if your not on the same network (not sitting next to the server) you have to have the public ip, not private Mnkras On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Sami Hiltunen wrote: > Hello! > > I'm trying to set up my server as I'm going to move it to a local > datacenter soon, but I have couple of problems. I can't connect to my > Left 4 Dead server or my Killing Floor servers (Not sure if this belongs > here?). First off, here are my specs: > > MSI P965 Neo > Intel E6600 2.4 GHz > Geforce 8800 GTX > 2 GB RAM > 500 GB HD > 650 W Chieftec PSU > Windows Server 2008 32-bit Standard Edition > > The server's LAN IP is 192.168.0.72. I try to connect the L4D server > through the console with following command: > [code]connect 192.168.0.72:27015[/code] > > It says "Connection failed after 10 retries." > > Here's the server config and launching .bat: > > [co...@echo off > cls > echo Protecting srcds from crashes... > echo If you want to shutdown the server and this script, close the > server window and press Y and then Enter > :l4d > echo (%time%) Left 4 Dead server started. > start /wait srcds.exe -console -game left4dead +map > l4d_vs_hospital01_apartments -maxplayers 8 -autoupdate -ip 192.168.0.72 > -port 27015 > echo (%time%) WARNING: Left 4 Dead server crashed, restarting > goto l4d > [/code] > > That's from SRCDS.com :) Server CFG: > > [code]hostname "myservername" // Serverin nimi > rcon_password "mypw" // RCON Salasana > > mp_disable_autokick 1 // Poista autokickki käytöstä > sv_cheats 0 // Cheatit pois käytöstä > sv_consistency 1 // Pakota kaikille muokkaamattomat tiedostot > > setmaster add 68.142.72.250:27011 > setmaster add 72.165.61.189:27011 > hostport 27015 > sv_lan 0 > sv_region 4 > sv_allow_lobby_connect_only 0 > sv_search_key "mysearchkey" > > sv_voiceenable 1 > sv_alltalk 0 > [/code] > > What am I doing wrong? Windows Firewall is off. > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Can't connect to my L4D server
Hello! I'm trying to set up my server as I'm going to move it to a local datacenter soon, but I have couple of problems. I can't connect to my Left 4 Dead server or my Killing Floor servers (Not sure if this belongs here?). First off, here are my specs: MSI P965 Neo Intel E6600 2.4 GHz Geforce 8800 GTX 2 GB RAM 500 GB HD 650 W Chieftec PSU Windows Server 2008 32-bit Standard Edition The server's LAN IP is 192.168.0.72. I try to connect the L4D server through the console with following command: [code]connect 192.168.0.72:27015[/code] It says "Connection failed after 10 retries." Here's the server config and launching .bat: [co...@echo off cls echo Protecting srcds from crashes... echo If you want to shutdown the server and this script, close the server window and press Y and then Enter :l4d echo (%time%) Left 4 Dead server started. start /wait srcds.exe -console -game left4dead +map l4d_vs_hospital01_apartments -maxplayers 8 -autoupdate -ip 192.168.0.72 -port 27015 echo (%time%) WARNING: Left 4 Dead server crashed, restarting goto l4d [/code] That's from SRCDS.com :) Server CFG: [code]hostname "myservername" // Serverin nimi rcon_password "mypw" // RCON Salasana mp_disable_autokick 1 // Poista autokickki käytöstä sv_cheats 0 // Cheatit pois käytöstä sv_consistency 1 // Pakota kaikille muokkaamattomat tiedostot setmaster add 68.142.72.250:27011 setmaster add 72.165.61.189:27011 hostport 27015 sv_lan 0 sv_region 4 sv_allow_lobby_connect_only 0 sv_search_key "mysearchkey" sv_voiceenable 1 sv_alltalk 0 [/code] What am I doing wrong? Windows Firewall is off. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Make the Map Quick List 100% Vanilla
True. People like 2fort, Hydro and stalemates, right? On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Michael Krasnow wrote: > well first of all most people dont like to wait 20 seconds to respawn... > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Mike O'Laughlen wrote: > >> Why is it that my Valve map quick list always directs me to idle servers >> and >> 32-player/fast-respawn drivel? Sadly, even the traditional server list is >> composed 50% of 32-player server (with their >20 choke) and 25% fast >> respawn >> (breaking all payload maps). >> >> Where are all the vanilla servers on the East coast? I can't say it's >> Valve's fault. All of you take part in breaking a well-designed gaming >> experience. >> >> Some of you may reply "filter for a vanilla server." Sadly, the tags >> aren't >> truthful. !increased_maxplayers consists of false negatives. Lots of 32 >> players still remain in the server browser. >> >> I've looked at the Vanilla steam group ( >> http://steamcommunity.com/groups/VTU), >> but most of the servers are empty. Am I the only gamer that wants to play >> the way the developers intended it to be played? >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Make the Map Quick List 100% Vanilla
Hey guys! Can I advertise here too? -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of k e Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:38 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Make the Map Quick List 100% Vanilla We operate vanilla servers that are full most of the day, except early morning now that schools in session again. The only change we made was some class restrictions. Go to our website for the list www.hkcentral.net On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Mike O'Laughlen wrote: > Why is it that my Valve map quick list always directs me to idle servers > and > 32-player/fast-respawn drivel? Sadly, even the traditional server list is > composed 50% of 32-player server (with their >20 choke) and 25% fast > respawn > (breaking all payload maps). > > Where are all the vanilla servers on the East coast? I can't say it's > Valve's fault. All of you take part in breaking a well-designed gaming > experience. > > Some of you may reply "filter for a vanilla server." Sadly, the tags > aren't > truthful. !increased_maxplayers consists of false negatives. Lots of 32 > players still remain in the server browser. > > I've looked at the Vanilla steam group ( > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/VTU), > but most of the servers are empty. Am I the only gamer that wants to play > the way the developers intended it to be played? > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Make the Map Quick List 100% Vanilla
well... if you wanna advertise yourself to all of your competition, sure. Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 > From: drunkenf...@hotmail.com > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:22:10 -0700 > Subject: Re: [hlds] Make the Map Quick List 100% Vanilla > > Hey guys! Can I advertise here too? > > -Original Message- > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of k e > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 7:38 AM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Make the Map Quick List 100% Vanilla > > We operate vanilla servers that are full most of the day, except early > morning now that schools in session again. The only change we made was some > class restrictions. Go to our website for the list > www.hkcentral.net > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Mike O'Laughlen > wrote: > > > Why is it that my Valve map quick list always directs me to idle servers > > and > > 32-player/fast-respawn drivel? Sadly, even the traditional server list is > > composed 50% of 32-player server (with their >20 choke) and 25% fast > > respawn > > (breaking all payload maps). > > > > Where are all the vanilla servers on the East coast? I can't say it's > > Valve's fault. All of you take part in breaking a well-designed gaming > > experience. > > > > Some of you may reply "filter for a vanilla server." Sadly, the tags > > aren't > > truthful. !increased_maxplayers consists of false negatives. Lots of 32 > > players still remain in the server browser. > > > > I've looked at the Vanilla steam group ( > > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/VTU), > > but most of the servers are empty. Am I the only gamer that wants to play > > the way the developers intended it to be played? > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Make the Map Quick List 100% Vanilla
We operate vanilla servers that are full most of the day, except early morning now that schools in session again. The only change we made was some class restrictions. Go to our website for the list www.hkcentral.net On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Mike O'Laughlen wrote: > Why is it that my Valve map quick list always directs me to idle servers > and > 32-player/fast-respawn drivel? Sadly, even the traditional server list is > composed 50% of 32-player server (with their >20 choke) and 25% fast > respawn > (breaking all payload maps). > > Where are all the vanilla servers on the East coast? I can't say it's > Valve's fault. All of you take part in breaking a well-designed gaming > experience. > > Some of you may reply "filter for a vanilla server." Sadly, the tags > aren't > truthful. !increased_maxplayers consists of false negatives. Lots of 32 > players still remain in the server browser. > > I've looked at the Vanilla steam group ( > http://steamcommunity.com/groups/VTU), > but most of the servers are empty. Am I the only gamer that wants to play > the way the developers intended it to be played? > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Make the Map Quick List 100% Vanilla
Public 24x servers are not easy to maintain. with 12v12, people loading/joining/leaving, and the inevitable idiots, teams feel very small. If you have more than a few idiots or more than a few people leave, suddenly its 8v5 and the place empties out. All three of our servers are 32x, stock respawn, with the only mods being deadtalk (they're not 'srs business' servers as much) and a mod I wrote that allows teleporter entrances in spawn. The latter is an attempt to ensure the 32x doesn't get stalematey, and it works rather well. Spies still do plenty of damage and it gives attack a little bit of an edge on the give or take maps. Overall, they're very fun and popular servers, tons of regulars, are full 24/7, and run very smooth. Of course, being public servers, you get idiots, but we have a 'admin' chat command that lets you call for backup and do our best to keep the idiots out. So maybe it's not servers with some non-vanilla mods, but shittily configured servers that don't pay attention to how their setups impact the overall fun of the server, and of course those who don't make it obvious what to expect, a la sv_tags. - Neph On 09/13/2009 07:51 PM, Mike O'Laughlen wrote: > Most folks join 32 player servers because they don't know any better. "More > is more" so the server browser naturally elevates the popularity of those > servers. The quick list should mitigate that by choosing servers that are > most like your play style. L4D don't allow 8v8 servers in the match making > system, so I don't see why this is any different. > All in all, 32 player doesn't bother me. It's the fact that the > server-restricted rates are too low. 30K isn't going to cut it. sv_rate > needs to be in the 60K range. Or at least until the choke isn't horrendous. > Often times I run around a corner and don't see a scout until I've been > blasted twice. (And I'm a very observant player if I do say so myself.) > > At the very least I think Valve should at least provide some additional > knobs to turn when filtering the lists down. They need to set up the system > to be more granular. The respawn times should be listed as a percentage of > the default and built into the browser. > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
