Re: [hlds] Bladecenter anything worth?
Obviously, virtualization does cause you to lose a small amount of hardware power to the extra operating system overhead of vistualizing many machines on one physical server. What you can gain in reliability may make it worth it, though. Basically, you could guarantee that any 'dedicated server' is available much more reliably. If you connect your bladecenter to a SAN of some sort, and are able to intelligently distribute VMs over the blades, then if a piece of physical hardware goes down, the VM can be automatically booted on hardware that is running properly, with very little data loss because of I/O that was interrupted by the hardware issue. Since all the data from all the servers is stored on the SAN, the data is somewhat shielded from hardware failure. There are a few virtual machine platforms that will allow you to accomplish this, including, I believe, VMWare ESXi (I think they changed the name of this recently) or Xen... You'll have to do your own research into these if no one else replies, since I have absolutely no experience with virtualization. You will also probably have to expect that you will be spending a huge amount of money building a SAN that is both fast and reliable. If you run the datacenter that the servers are hosted from, then you could also expect better cooling and power usage efficiency by going this direction, and if not, you will at least be using less rack space. A bladecenter will require a lot more power per rack than a rack full of 1U/2U servers, so you may have to pay extra per rack for the extra amperage you'll need. On 2/22/2010 1:29 AM, Christoffer Pedersen wrote: > Hi everyone. > > Im looking to build up a new farm of servers for my company. We are > currently using 1U and 2U servers for our hosting, but i have been > thinking of, if it was better to build the whole stuff in > bladecenters, and virtualize. I just want to know if this is any good? > I have never tried to host srcds on virtual machines, so i would be > happy if you could help me here :) > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Bladecenter anything worth?
Hi, I do not have a answer to this question. Just wanted to add I'm highly interested in this information as well. How well do bladecenters perform in regard with gamingservers. Cheers, -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Christoffer Pedersen Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: [hlds] Bladecenter anything worth? Hi everyone. Im looking to build up a new farm of servers for my company. We are currently using 1U and 2U servers for our hosting, but i have been thinking of, if it was better to build the whole stuff in bladecenters, and virtualize. I just want to know if this is any good? I have never tried to host srcds on virtual machines, so i would be happy if you could help me here :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2701 - Release Date: 02/21/10 20:34:00 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Bladecenter anything worth?
Hi everyone. Im looking to build up a new farm of servers for my company. We are currently using 1U and 2U servers for our hosting, but i have been thinking of, if it was better to build the whole stuff in bladecenters, and virtualize. I just want to know if this is any good? I have never tried to host srcds on virtual machines, so i would be happy if you could help me here :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
An NFO VPS is superior to all other VPSs for gaming. Good choice. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jake Eisenman Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 10:31 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem It's a nuclear fallout vps. Haven't played around with it much but it works good so far. Sent from my iPod On Feb 21, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Cc2iscooL wrote: > I didn't even read the letters "VPS" on there. > > Depends on the provider really and the resources provided, but no, it > doesn't run that great. Cheaper to rent really. > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Matthew Gottlieb < > matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> 1) Mani is a BAD IDEA. >> 2) VPS is a VERY BAD IDEA. Srcds doesn't run well on virtual >> servers, >> from what I've read. >> >> ~ Matt >> srcds.com >> >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM, DontWannaName! > > >> wrote: >>> You can download it from SteamFriends >>> >> http://www.steamfriends.com/forums/index.php?autocom=downloads&showfile=12 >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Cc2iscooL >>> wrote: >>> Noobish? Sourcemod has virtually the same look-alike menus, and with plugins you can do the exact same thing (plus a ton more) than mani, plus...when >> an update comes out you don't have to wait for someone to update the >> binaries. :) On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jake Eisenman < >> ad...@oneskylitnight.org > wrote: > TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to > it I > guess :/ > > I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup > sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to > funmenu. > Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties > uses > some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around > that, it >> has > to be there. > > Kornelijus Survila wrote: >> Yeah, why would you even use Mani? >> >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar wrote: >> >> >>> Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov < >> ryan.kat...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman < > ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: > Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried > GoogleDNS, > >>> OpenDNS >>> > and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, > or it > can't > find the IP address > > Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just > got a new > VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. > > Thanks, > Jake > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, > please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, >> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > arch
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
It's a nuclear fallout vps. Haven't played around with it much but it works good so far. Sent from my iPod On Feb 21, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Cc2iscooL wrote: > I didn't even read the letters "VPS" on there. > > Depends on the provider really and the resources provided, but no, it > doesn't run that great. Cheaper to rent really. > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Matthew Gottlieb < > matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> 1) Mani is a BAD IDEA. >> 2) VPS is a VERY BAD IDEA. Srcds doesn't run well on virtual >> servers, >> from what I've read. >> >> ~ Matt >> srcds.com >> >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM, DontWannaName! > > >> wrote: >>> You can download it from SteamFriends >>> >> http://www.steamfriends.com/forums/index.php?autocom=downloads&showfile=12 >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Cc2iscooL >>> wrote: >>> Noobish? Sourcemod has virtually the same look-alike menus, and with plugins you can do the exact same thing (plus a ton more) than mani, plus...when >> an update comes out you don't have to wait for someone to update the >> binaries. :) On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jake Eisenman < >> ad...@oneskylitnight.org > wrote: > TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to > it I > guess :/ > > I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup > sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to > funmenu. > Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties > uses > some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around > that, it >> has > to be there. > > Kornelijus Survila wrote: >> Yeah, why would you even use Mani? >> >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar wrote: >> >> >>> Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov < >> ryan.kat...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman < > ad...@oneskylitnight.org wrote: > Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried > GoogleDNS, > >>> OpenDNS >>> > and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, > or it > can't > find the IP address > > Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just > got a new > VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. > > Thanks, > Jake > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, > please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, >> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
Doing some digging it looks like the nameservers (ns1/ns2.xfactorservers.com) are failing right now, even though their site is up, but of course, their site use ns1-ns4.firehost.com. So, if I had to give you a reason their site was down, xfactor server's nameservers are failing right now. Probably a temporary issue and will be fixed with the starting of tomorrow's workweek. -Michael -- Original Message --- Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem From: Cc2iscooL To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Date: 2/21/2010 9:56 PM EST > I didn't even read the letters "VPS" on there. > > Depends on the provider really and the resources provided, but no, it > doesn't run that great. Cheaper to rent really. > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Matthew Gottlieb< > matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> 1) Mani is a BAD IDEA. >> 2) VPS is a VERY BAD IDEA. Srcds doesn't run well on virtual servers, >> from what I've read. >> >> ~ Matt >> srcds.com >> >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM, DontWannaName! >> wrote: >> >>> You can download it from SteamFriends >>> >>> >> http://www.steamfriends.com/forums/index.php?autocom=downloads&showfile=12 >> >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Cc2iscooL wrote: >>> >>> Noobish? Sourcemod has virtually the same look-alike menus, and with plugins you can do the exact same thing (plus a ton more) than mani, plus...when >> an >> update comes out you don't have to wait for someone to update the >> binaries. >> :) On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jake Eisenman< >> ad...@oneskylitnight.org >> > wrote: > > TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I > guess :/ > > I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup > sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. > Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses > some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it > >> has >> > to be there. > > Kornelijus Survila wrote: > >> Yeah, why would you even use Mani? >> >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar >> wrote: >> >> >>> Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov< >>> >> ryan.kat...@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman< > ad...@oneskylitnight.org > wrote: > Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, > > >>> OpenDNS >>> >>> > and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it > > can't > > find the IP address > > Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a > new > VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. > > Thanks, > Jake > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> >> archives, >> >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >>> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> archives, >> > please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listi
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
I didn't even read the letters "VPS" on there. Depends on the provider really and the resources provided, but no, it doesn't run that great. Cheaper to rent really. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Matthew Gottlieb < matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com> wrote: > 1) Mani is a BAD IDEA. > 2) VPS is a VERY BAD IDEA. Srcds doesn't run well on virtual servers, > from what I've read. > > ~ Matt > srcds.com > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM, DontWannaName! > wrote: > > You can download it from SteamFriends > > > http://www.steamfriends.com/forums/index.php?autocom=downloads&showfile=12 > > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Cc2iscooL wrote: > > > >> Noobish? Sourcemod has virtually the same look-alike menus, and with > >> plugins > >> you can do the exact same thing (plus a ton more) than mani, plus...when > an > >> update comes out you don't have to wait for someone to update the > binaries. > >> :) > >> > >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jake Eisenman < > ad...@oneskylitnight.org > >> >wrote: > >> > >> > TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I > >> > guess :/ > >> > > >> > I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup > >> > sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. > >> > Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses > >> > some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it > has > >> > to be there. > >> > > >> > Kornelijus Survila wrote: > >> > > Yeah, why would you even use Mani? > >> > > > >> > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar > >> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov < > ryan.kat...@gmail.com> > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ > >> > >>> > >> > >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman < > >> > ad...@oneskylitnight.org > >> > >>> > >> > >>> wrote: > >> > >>> > >> > Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, > >> > > >> > >> OpenDNS > >> > >> > >> > and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it > >> > can't > >> > find the IP address > >> > > >> > Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a > >> new > >> > VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > Jake > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, > >> > > >> > >>> please visit: > >> > >>> > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > >> > > >> > >>> ___ > >> > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, > >> > >>> please visit: > >> > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >> > >> please visit: > >> > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ___ > >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >> > please visit: > >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> > please visit: > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
1) Mani is a BAD IDEA. 2) VPS is a VERY BAD IDEA. Srcds doesn't run well on virtual servers, from what I've read. ~ Matt srcds.com On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:15 PM, DontWannaName! wrote: > You can download it from SteamFriends > http://www.steamfriends.com/forums/index.php?autocom=downloads&showfile=12 > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Cc2iscooL wrote: > >> Noobish? Sourcemod has virtually the same look-alike menus, and with >> plugins >> you can do the exact same thing (plus a ton more) than mani, plus...when an >> update comes out you don't have to wait for someone to update the binaries. >> :) >> >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jake Eisenman > >wrote: >> >> > TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I >> > guess :/ >> > >> > I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup >> > sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. >> > Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses >> > some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it has >> > to be there. >> > >> > Kornelijus Survila wrote: >> > > Yeah, why would you even use Mani? >> > > >> > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar >> wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > >> Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ >> > >>> >> > >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman < >> > ad...@oneskylitnight.org >> > >>> >> > >>> wrote: >> > >>> >> > Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, >> > >> > >> OpenDNS >> > >> >> > and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it >> > can't >> > find the IP address >> > >> > Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a >> new >> > VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Jake >> > >> > ___ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > >> > >>> please visit: >> > >>> >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> > >> > >>> ___ >> > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > >>> please visit: >> > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >> ___ >> > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > >> please visit: >> > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> >> > >> >> > > ___ >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
You can download it from SteamFriends http://www.steamfriends.com/forums/index.php?autocom=downloads&showfile=12 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Cc2iscooL wrote: > Noobish? Sourcemod has virtually the same look-alike menus, and with > plugins > you can do the exact same thing (plus a ton more) than mani, plus...when an > update comes out you don't have to wait for someone to update the binaries. > :) > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jake Eisenman >wrote: > > > TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I > > guess :/ > > > > I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup > > sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. > > Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses > > some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it has > > to be there. > > > > Kornelijus Survila wrote: > > > Yeah, why would you even use Mani? > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar > wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ > > >> > > >> > > >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ > > >>> > > >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman < > > ad...@oneskylitnight.org > > >>> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, > > > > >> OpenDNS > > >> > > and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it > > can't > > find the IP address > > > > Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a > new > > VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. > > > > Thanks, > > Jake > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > >>> please visit: > > >>> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > >>> ___ > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > >>> please visit: > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >>> > > >>> > > >> ___ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > >> please visit: > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > >> > > >> > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
What? Sourcemod is a million times more intuitive and easier to manage. I literally cannot think of one reason to use mani, especially with the various issues it has just from being so goddamn outdated. If you would like some personal help switching over to sourcemod, feel free to send me a private email or join #hlserveradmins on irc.gamesurge.net and I'd be glad to give you a hand. Also, there's definitely a way to port over your funcommands plugin. I can likely find you a proper replacement that is as good, or better, than everything you are running on your mani install right now On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Jake Eisenman wrote: > TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I > guess :/ > > I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup > sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. > Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses > some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it has > to be there. > > Kornelijus Survila wrote: > > Yeah, why would you even use Mani? > > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar wrote: > > > > > >> Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ > >>> > >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman < > ad...@oneskylitnight.org > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, > > >> OpenDNS > >> > and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it > can't > find the IP address > > Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new > VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. > > Thanks, > Jake > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > >>> please visit: > >>> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>> ___ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
Noobish? Sourcemod has virtually the same look-alike menus, and with plugins you can do the exact same thing (plus a ton more) than mani, plus...when an update comes out you don't have to wait for someone to update the binaries. :) On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Jake Eisenman wrote: > TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I > guess :/ > > I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup > sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. > Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses > some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it has > to be there. > > Kornelijus Survila wrote: > > Yeah, why would you even use Mani? > > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar wrote: > > > > > >> Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ > >>> > >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman < > ad...@oneskylitnight.org > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, > > >> OpenDNS > >> > and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it > can't > find the IP address > > Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new > VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. > > Thanks, > Jake > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > >>> please visit: > >>> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >>> ___ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
TBH, my admins are too noobish to move to Sourcemod. Too used to it I guess :/ I've been trying to work around with the supers so we can setup sourcebans. Plus one of my coders made some modifications to funmenu. Hopefully we can dump it (mani) on the plain server, but Hosties uses some parts of mani to do it's work. Until i can code around that, it has to be there. Kornelijus Survila wrote: > Yeah, why would you even use Mani? > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar wrote: > > >> Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov >> wrote: >> >> >>> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman >> >>> wrote: >>> Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, >> OpenDNS >> and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
Yeah, why would you even use Mani? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Sugar wrote: > Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov > wrote: > > > http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ > > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman > > > wrote: > > > Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, > OpenDNS > > > and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't > > > find the IP address > > > > > > Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new > > > VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Jake > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
That's true, SourceMod is where it's at / has been for quite some time now. Perhaps it's time to move up from child modding? -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Sugar Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 8:48 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov wrote: > http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman > wrote: > > Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS > > and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't > > find the IP address > > > > Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new > > VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. > > > > Thanks, > > Jake > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
OpenDNS says, -- Nameservers for www.mani-admin-plugin.com: ns1.xfactorservers.com returned (SERVFAIL) ns2.xfactorservers.com returned (SERVFAIL) -- All the best, -S -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Katkov Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 8:22 PM To: ad...@oneskylitnight.org; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman wrote: > Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS > and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't > find the IP address > > Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new > VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. > > Thanks, > Jake > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
Better response: Why would you possibly use Mani? :/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Ryan Katkov wrote: > http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman > wrote: > > Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS > > and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't > > find the IP address > > > > Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new > > VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. > > > > Thanks, > > Jake > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Jake Eisenman wrote: > Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS > and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't > find the IP address > > Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new > VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. > > Thanks, > Jake > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
Seems Mani's site is down or with DNS problems. Tried GoogleDNS, OpenDNS and Anonymouse with either a timeout, redirect to ask.com, or it can't find the IP address Can someone post the IP or confirm the site is down? I just got a new VPS for my clan and now we can't even put Mani on it, lol. Thanks, Jake ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] GSP Hosting Questions
I for one appreciate the discussion. We currently rent a dedicated box from Limestone, but we're always interested in what else is available so we can provide the best gaming experience for our community. Great insight so far, if nothing else in the form of helping some folks find providers that they may not find on their own (lets face it, the ones that spam ads all over the place aren't necessarily the best providers, right?) On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Shane Arnold wrote: > Actually, I would say this is very relevant, considering a lot of people > on this list especially (Windows) would not be server owners and infact > would be GSP customers ;) It's good to get feedback (especially if you > are a GSP with negative feedback) so you can use it to improve your > services ;) > > On 21/02/2010 6:12 PM, Alexander King wrote: > > True this is for servers and it is off topic as usual > > > > Sent Using My IPhone :) > > > > > > On 21 Feb 2010, at 08:24, "DontWannaName!" > > wrote: > > > > > >> This may have to do with game servers but do you really think > >> everyone on > >> the list needs to hear about this discussion. This is the kind of > >> topic that > >> makes Valve want to switch us over to forums. If you want any > >> constructive > >> feedback you should go to srcds.com where they know about every host > >> and are > >> probably more unbiased than here. I bet if you search their forums, > >> you will > >> find everything you need to know and want to know about every > >> notable host > >> there is. > >> > >> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Josh Bost > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> @Nicholas: Yes. That is correct, as Lane mentioned however there are > >>> common items available in 'one-click' format (In the case of L4D2 > >>> last > >>> time I checked it was several versions of MM+SM, SDK Hooks, and a few > >>> others). It makes sense for me, given that if they didn't prevent it > >>> not only are the problems Lane mentioned present, however anybody can > >>> then add L4DToolz or L4Downtown and give themselves an increased slot > >>> count*, or other action like that. Lets not even go into what they > >>> could write themselves. > >>> > >>> *Though doing this without authorization gets your server disabled :P > >>> > >>> @Matt: Yes, however as it stands my server only runs MM, SM, > >>> L4Downtown, and SDK Hooks and the update for L4Downtown wasn't > >>> critical, all others were installed through management panel. > >>> > >>> @Cc2iscool: See previous points - those extensions could have easily > >>> been malicios. > >>> > >>> @Shane: Exactly. > >>> > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> Joshua 'Dislexsick' Bost > >>> > >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Nicholas Hastings< > nshasti...@gmail.com > >>> > > >>> wrote: > >>> > So what you're saying is that Hypernia won't let you put > extensions on > yourself and that you have to wait hours for them to update them > instead? > > On 2/20/2010 9:26 PM, Josh Bost wrote: > > > To further my previous recommendation for Hypernia I would like to > > note I have submitted 3 support tickets so far: > > 1) Getting TF2 extensions added to the management panel to allow > > PropHunt: Done in 3 hours, even though after sending in initial > > ticket > > I had to get the server owner to send in a ticket allowing me to > > request stuff for them. (They don't allow clients to uplaod .dll > > files on their 'By the slot' servers) > > 2) Getting them to allow me to have a 16-slot L4D2 server. > > Resolved > > in 12 hours, though that was due to me sending the ticket and > > going to > > bed :P actual respose to the first ticket was like 45 minutes. > > 3) Getting L4Downtown updated. Done in an hour. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Joshua 'Dislexsick' Bost > > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:41 AM, John > > >> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > > >> Investigate the > >> server performance and flexibility. Then, to see their response > >> times > >> > >>> and > >>> > >> knowledge levels, ask all of them questions about improving your > >> > >>> routing and > >>> > >> server performance, plugin questions, and server configuration > >> > >>> questions > >>> > >> through their support system, even if you already know the > >> answers. > >> Experiment with the control panel and different services. (If a > >> company > >> offers a free trial or money-back guarantee, you could also take > >> > >>> advantage > >>> > >> of that, but a month would give you a longer view on server > >> stability > >> > >>> and > >>> > >> uptime.) > >> > >> The "three company" strategy is often used for interviews with > >> > >>> contractors, > >>> > >> and it's a solid one. > >> > >> -John > >> > >> > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit yo
Re: [hlds] GSP Hosting Questions
Actually, I would say this is very relevant, considering a lot of people on this list especially (Windows) would not be server owners and infact would be GSP customers ;) It's good to get feedback (especially if you are a GSP with negative feedback) so you can use it to improve your services ;) On 21/02/2010 6:12 PM, Alexander King wrote: > True this is for servers and it is off topic as usual > > Sent Using My IPhone :) > > > On 21 Feb 2010, at 08:24, "DontWannaName!" > wrote: > > >> This may have to do with game servers but do you really think >> everyone on >> the list needs to hear about this discussion. This is the kind of >> topic that >> makes Valve want to switch us over to forums. If you want any >> constructive >> feedback you should go to srcds.com where they know about every host >> and are >> probably more unbiased than here. I bet if you search their forums, >> you will >> find everything you need to know and want to know about every >> notable host >> there is. >> >> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Josh Bost >> wrote: >> >> >>> @Nicholas: Yes. That is correct, as Lane mentioned however there are >>> common items available in 'one-click' format (In the case of L4D2 >>> last >>> time I checked it was several versions of MM+SM, SDK Hooks, and a few >>> others). It makes sense for me, given that if they didn't prevent it >>> not only are the problems Lane mentioned present, however anybody can >>> then add L4DToolz or L4Downtown and give themselves an increased slot >>> count*, or other action like that. Lets not even go into what they >>> could write themselves. >>> >>> *Though doing this without authorization gets your server disabled :P >>> >>> @Matt: Yes, however as it stands my server only runs MM, SM, >>> L4Downtown, and SDK Hooks and the update for L4Downtown wasn't >>> critical, all others were installed through management panel. >>> >>> @Cc2iscool: See previous points - those extensions could have easily >>> been malicios. >>> >>> @Shane: Exactly. >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Joshua 'Dislexsick' Bost >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Nicholas Hastings>> >>> wrote: >>> So what you're saying is that Hypernia won't let you put extensions on yourself and that you have to wait hours for them to update them instead? On 2/20/2010 9:26 PM, Josh Bost wrote: > To further my previous recommendation for Hypernia I would like to > note I have submitted 3 support tickets so far: > 1) Getting TF2 extensions added to the management panel to allow > PropHunt: Done in 3 hours, even though after sending in initial > ticket > I had to get the server owner to send in a ticket allowing me to > request stuff for them. (They don't allow clients to uplaod .dll > files on their 'By the slot' servers) > 2) Getting them to allow me to have a 16-slot L4D2 server. > Resolved > in 12 hours, though that was due to me sending the ticket and > going to > bed :P actual respose to the first ticket was like 45 minutes. > 3) Getting L4Downtown updated. Done in an hour. > > Cheers, > > Joshua 'Dislexsick' Bost > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:41 AM, John >> >>> wrote: >>> > >> Investigate the >> server performance and flexibility. Then, to see their response >> times >> >>> and >>> >> knowledge levels, ask all of them questions about improving your >> >>> routing and >>> >> server performance, plugin questions, and server configuration >> >>> questions >>> >> through their support system, even if you already know the >> answers. >> Experiment with the control panel and different services. (If a >> company >> offers a free trial or money-back guarantee, you could also take >> >>> advantage >>> >> of that, but a month would give you a longer view on server >> stability >> >>> and >>> >> uptime.) >> >> The "three company" strategy is often used for interviews with >> >>> contractors, >>> >> and it's a solid one. >> >> -John >> >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>> please visit: >>> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences,
Re: [hlds] GSP Hosting Questions
True this is for servers and it is off topic as usual Sent Using My IPhone :) On 21 Feb 2010, at 08:24, "DontWannaName!" wrote: > This may have to do with game servers but do you really think > everyone on > the list needs to hear about this discussion. This is the kind of > topic that > makes Valve want to switch us over to forums. If you want any > constructive > feedback you should go to srcds.com where they know about every host > and are > probably more unbiased than here. I bet if you search their forums, > you will > find everything you need to know and want to know about every > notable host > there is. > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Josh Bost > wrote: > >> @Nicholas: Yes. That is correct, as Lane mentioned however there are >> common items available in 'one-click' format (In the case of L4D2 >> last >> time I checked it was several versions of MM+SM, SDK Hooks, and a few >> others). It makes sense for me, given that if they didn't prevent it >> not only are the problems Lane mentioned present, however anybody can >> then add L4DToolz or L4Downtown and give themselves an increased slot >> count*, or other action like that. Lets not even go into what they >> could write themselves. >> >> *Though doing this without authorization gets your server disabled :P >> >> @Matt: Yes, however as it stands my server only runs MM, SM, >> L4Downtown, and SDK Hooks and the update for L4Downtown wasn't >> critical, all others were installed through management panel. >> >> @Cc2iscool: See previous points - those extensions could have easily >> been malicios. >> >> @Shane: Exactly. >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Joshua 'Dislexsick' Bost >> >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Nicholas Hastings > > >> wrote: >>> So what you're saying is that Hypernia won't let you put >>> extensions on >>> yourself and that you have to wait hours for them to update them >>> instead? >>> >>> On 2/20/2010 9:26 PM, Josh Bost wrote: To further my previous recommendation for Hypernia I would like to note I have submitted 3 support tickets so far: 1) Getting TF2 extensions added to the management panel to allow PropHunt: Done in 3 hours, even though after sending in initial ticket I had to get the server owner to send in a ticket allowing me to request stuff for them. (They don't allow clients to uplaod .dll files on their 'By the slot' servers) 2) Getting them to allow me to have a 16-slot L4D2 server. Resolved in 12 hours, though that was due to me sending the ticket and going to bed :P actual respose to the first ticket was like 45 minutes. 3) Getting L4Downtown updated. Done in an hour. Cheers, Joshua 'Dislexsick' Bost On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:41 AM, John>>> > >> wrote: > Investigate the > server performance and flexibility. Then, to see their response > times >> and > knowledge levels, ask all of them questions about improving your >> routing and > server performance, plugin questions, and server configuration >> questions > through their support system, even if you already know the > answers. > Experiment with the control panel and different services. (If a > company > offers a free trial or money-back guarantee, you could also take >> advantage > of that, but a month would give you a longer view on server > stability >> and > uptime.) > > The "three company" strategy is often used for interviews with >> contractors, > and it's a solid one. > > -John > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, >> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] GSP Hosting Questions
This may have to do with game servers but do you really think everyone on the list needs to hear about this discussion. This is the kind of topic that makes Valve want to switch us over to forums. If you want any constructive feedback you should go to srcds.com where they know about every host and are probably more unbiased than here. I bet if you search their forums, you will find everything you need to know and want to know about every notable host there is. On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Josh Bost wrote: > @Nicholas: Yes. That is correct, as Lane mentioned however there are > common items available in 'one-click' format (In the case of L4D2 last > time I checked it was several versions of MM+SM, SDK Hooks, and a few > others). It makes sense for me, given that if they didn't prevent it > not only are the problems Lane mentioned present, however anybody can > then add L4DToolz or L4Downtown and give themselves an increased slot > count*, or other action like that. Lets not even go into what they > could write themselves. > > *Though doing this without authorization gets your server disabled :P > > @Matt: Yes, however as it stands my server only runs MM, SM, > L4Downtown, and SDK Hooks and the update for L4Downtown wasn't > critical, all others were installed through management panel. > > @Cc2iscool: See previous points - those extensions could have easily > been malicios. > > @Shane: Exactly. > > > Cheers, > > Joshua 'Dislexsick' Bost > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Nicholas Hastings > wrote: > > So what you're saying is that Hypernia won't let you put extensions on > > yourself and that you have to wait hours for them to update them instead? > > > > On 2/20/2010 9:26 PM, Josh Bost wrote: > >> To further my previous recommendation for Hypernia I would like to > >> note I have submitted 3 support tickets so far: > >> 1) Getting TF2 extensions added to the management panel to allow > >> PropHunt: Done in 3 hours, even though after sending in initial ticket > >> I had to get the server owner to send in a ticket allowing me to > >> request stuff for them. (They don't allow clients to uplaod .dll > >> files on their 'By the slot' servers) > >> 2) Getting them to allow me to have a 16-slot L4D2 server. Resolved > >> in 12 hours, though that was due to me sending the ticket and going to > >> bed :P actual respose to the first ticket was like 45 minutes. > >> 3) Getting L4Downtown updated. Done in an hour. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Joshua 'Dislexsick' Bost > >> > >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:41 AM, John > wrote: > >> > >>> Investigate the > >>> server performance and flexibility. Then, to see their response times > and > >>> knowledge levels, ask all of them questions about improving your > routing and > >>> server performance, plugin questions, and server configuration > questions > >>> through their support system, even if you already know the answers. > >>> Experiment with the control panel and different services. (If a company > >>> offers a free trial or money-back guarantee, you could also take > advantage > >>> of that, but a month would give you a longer view on server stability > and > >>> uptime.) > >>> > >>> The "three company" strategy is often used for interviews with > contractors, > >>> and it's a solid one. > >>> > >>> -John > >>> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
