Re: [hlds] Server Mix-Up - CS and Source

2004-09-24 Thread Jim Norton
On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 12:32:41PM -0500, Hexis wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 10:09:09AM -0700, Jim Norton wrote:
> > What is CS:S?
>
> Counter Strike: Source.  The version of CS based on HL2 that's in
> limited beta testing now.  This is not CS2.
>

Thanks Hexis...

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Re: [hlds] Server Mix-Up - CS and Source

2004-09-24 Thread Jim Norton
What is CS:S?

On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 09:46:56AM -0800, m0gely wrote:
> Cian Sweeney wrote:
>
> >The weirdest thing happened, I started my server for me and my friends
> >to play on and they said when they went to join it opened CS:S instead
> >of 1.6, even thought the server is clearly 1.6. Also I coudn't join
> >the server from inside the LAN. But an update fized it, but it was
> >weird stuff.
>
> I noticed also that I can't see LAN games anymore.  When I first fired
> up steam I could see my CS:S test server (finally works on my PII w/
> FreeBSD!) but no others.  Now I can't see any servers in my in-game
> browser or the steam server browser.  I can manually connect to my
> servers by ip:port though.  I have test servers for CS, CS:S, DoD, TFC,
> DMC, HL and CZ all running on this box.
>
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Re: Re[2]: [hlds] RE: ServerList Destroyed::::Please take time to read

2004-09-19 Thread Jim Norton
On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 06:46:58PM -0400, Shane Robinett wrote:
> I doubt that your single-hone bandwidth provider for your DSL provides
> the same quality of pipe people get at some quality carrier hotels and
> datacenters.

Well the "last mile" of my connectivity has a single point of failure, but
the reality is that in the past 2 years, I've not had any network outages.

My DSL is provided by Megapath Networks. One of the best quality DSL providers
around.

I'd love to have triple redundant OC48 connections, but I don't have that kind
of money, and I am not enamored with co-location.

>
> However.
>
> It sounds like in your one instance you have a quality box and you
> probably manage your server to the point it performs very well for the
> people that do get good pings to your DSL provider.
>
> In argument for the people who buy/manage servers off data center
> bandwidth, I think I can prove that 70%+ of all people /playing/ on a
> server are playing on datacenter bandwidth.  This is NOT the same
> statement as most servers are run off of datacenter bandwidth (I think
> the opposite is true, I'll try to prove the point. - maybe that will
> convince Valve to change their listings alg.)

Are you saying you'd have Valve bias the serverlist in favor of datacenter
run servers?

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Re: Re[2]: [hlds] RE: ServerList Destroyed::::Please take time to read

2004-09-18 Thread Jim Norton
On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 03:04:14PM -0800, Ooks Server wrote:
>
> >What's wrong with a home based server?  I pay $315/month for a 1.5mbit
> >SDSL connection and run a server off of a P4 2.8Ghz HT, 2GIG ram and raid
> >5 disk subsystem. Just because my server is at home, I doubt that it
> >provides
> >sub-par game play...
> >
> >
>
> Not a thing...to me. There are thousands of home based servers that perform
> very well. I don't have an actual count, I'm not sure anyone does. I'd be
> very interested to know the actual figures, home based versus data center
> based.
>
> $315...isn't that a bit spendy? What else do you do with the box? You have
> way too much memory and disk drive for an HL server.
>

Well, $315/month is a bit spendy. But you get what you pay for when it comes
to DSL. It's cheaper than co-locating, and better than using a dedicated
server.. I like having complete control over my hardware and OS setup.

I certainly do more than run a HL server. I actually run a small web hosting and
design business.


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Re: Re[2]: [hlds] RE: ServerList Destroyed::::Please take time to read

2004-09-18 Thread Jim Norton
On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 10:42:33AM -0800, Ooks Server wrote:
> It's not really a war, but there are those that tend to look down their
> noses at those with home based servers. It's all good, jus' poking fun at
> those that view them as the "haves", looking at us girly-men have-nots
> running home based servers :-)

What's wrong with a home based server?  I pay $315/month for a 1.5mbit
SDSL connection and run a server off of a P4 2.8Ghz HT, 2GIG ram and raid
5 disk subsystem. Just because my server is at home, I doubt that it provides
sub-par game play...



>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Monil Patel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 8:25 AM
> Subject: RE: Re[2]: [hlds] RE: ServerList DestroyedPlease take time to
> read
>
>
> >Since when was this a war about how much someone pays to have their server
> >up?
> >
> >Kind Regards,
> >
> >Monil Patel
> >Network Manager
> >Reload Network
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds-
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ooks Server
> >>Sent: 18 September 2004 18:02
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: Re[2]: [hlds] RE: ServerList DestroyedPlease take time
> >>to
> >>read
> >>
> >>Translation: How can you have the balls to complain about anything that
> >>effects your puny crap laggy 3 man server run on a Pentium 1 with a
> >>Comcast
> >>100kbps cable home connection when us big boys pay big bucks for our uber
> >>top notch PROFESSIONAL state of the art massive bandwidth servers? Go cry
> >>to
> >>your mommy and leave us big boys alone.
> >>
> >>- Original Message -
> >>From: "Jeff Dupler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "spartibus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 8:21 PM
> >>Subject: Re[2]: [hlds] RE: ServerList DestroyedPlease take time to
> >>read
> >>
> >>
> >>> Friday, September 17, 2004, 8:57:55 PM, you wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello spartibus,
> >>>
> >>>  Notice the comcast address, big surprise . Let me guess you pay
> >>>  $49.95 a month to run your server?
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Jeff Dupler
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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