Re: [hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files)
Agent|BeNt wrote: I have a public banlist for our servers on our webpage.It list who banned them from which server and why.Demos of just about all the hackers are available in the downloads section of our website.If you would like the website email me off list and I'll give you a link. I am also a member of Steambans.com and have never submitted a demo and I am a member still.So I don't see what the problem is with joining up on that,they have alot of teams that haven't reported in on anything.Even though we have about 50-65 demos that need to be submitted.I'm thinking of dropping steambans though for the simple fact I've had it on the server now for months and its only banned 5 people off our servers.It would be alot easier for an admin to just see it and ban them instead. BeNt - Original Message - From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:37 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files) I rather have 50 players that have cheated on other servers (ofcourse we ban if we find them..) then ban 1 clean player. Posting cheaters to a public list without prof is bullshit... and you should know that! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: 19. januar 2005 22:53 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files) www.steambans.com is a wonderful service. Sadly, to take advantage of such a service, certain prereqs have to be met. Of which, I don't (I run a CS:S server out of the office, no clan, no website, no irc channel, just something me and the guys here do... build a game server, set it up, then let it go public). I was wondering if anyone would like to share up their banned_user.cfg contents. All my bans on my server have been very obvious cheaters (almost all speedhackers). banid 0 STEAM_0:1:4151131 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:5345510 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:6454151 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:4851060 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:89911 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:5205849 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:1047784 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:3114641 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:592926 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:1052119 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:1699044 Small list, but my server has only been running for 8 days. If anyone else would like to share up, feel free. ~Tony ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds The concept of a shared banlist if great. However, how can one rely upon the judment of admins they don't know? What are their qualifications? Experience? Tolerance? Reason(s) for the ban? What about rescinded bans? Mistakes? Every community is slightly different and bans for different reasons. There's no way to know the answers to any of these questions when you blindly subscribe to a centralized list. It's hard enough handling all of those issues in your own community without adding the variables of others. Kerry Mike's Marauders!! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files)
- Original Message - From: Kerry Dorsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Like I said in my origonal post. Demos of just about all the hackers are available in the downloads section of our website. letting the admins in your community pick out which bans are legit.We have demos.If you can't trust a demo then you are out of luck.While I realize what you are saying,and I'm not gonna just trust another communities bans without knowing for sure.I offered my banlist up and I have proof for a large amount of our bans.Which are legit and not banned for anything but hacking.Which is why we do demos so if someone protest their ban.We have demos for the other bans issued too,such as mic spamming ect.But they are not in our downloads section. Personally I would rather place my own bans,and as said in my previous post,steambans is hardly helping anything in my server.Granted it will take time and as more admins contribute to the banlist the bans will become more frequent and all,its just not all there right now.But Kerry I do see your point and I agree with you 110%. BeNt The concept of a shared banlist if great. However, how can one rely upon the judment of admins they don't know? What are their qualifications? Experience? Tolerance? Reason(s) for the ban? What about rescinded bans? Mistakes? Every community is slightly different and bans for different reasons. There's no way to know the answers to any of these questions when you blindly subscribe to a centralized list. It's hard enough handling all of those issues in your own community without adding the variables of others. Kerry Mike's Marauders!! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files)
I rather have 50 players that have cheated on other servers (ofcourse we ban if we find them..) then ban 1 clean player. Posting cheaters to a public list without prof is bullshit... and you should know that! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: 19. januar 2005 22:53 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files) www.steambans.com is a wonderful service. Sadly, to take advantage of such a service, certain prereqs have to be met. Of which, I don't (I run a CS:S server out of the office, no clan, no website, no irc channel, just something me and the guys here do... build a game server, set it up, then let it go public). I was wondering if anyone would like to share up their banned_user.cfg contents. All my bans on my server have been very obvious cheaters (almost all speedhackers). banid 0 STEAM_0:1:4151131 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:5345510 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:6454151 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:4851060 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:89911 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:5205849 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:1047784 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:3114641 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:592926 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:1052119 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:1699044 Small list, but my server has only been running for 8 days. If anyone else would like to share up, feel free. ~Tony ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files)
I have a public banlist for our servers on our webpage.It list who banned them from which server and why.Demos of just about all the hackers are available in the downloads section of our website.If you would like the website email me off list and I'll give you a link. I am also a member of Steambans.com and have never submitted a demo and I am a member still.So I don't see what the problem is with joining up on that,they have alot of teams that haven't reported in on anything.Even though we have about 50-65 demos that need to be submitted.I'm thinking of dropping steambans though for the simple fact I've had it on the server now for months and its only banned 5 people off our servers.It would be alot easier for an admin to just see it and ban them instead. BeNt - Original Message - From: Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 2:37 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files) I rather have 50 players that have cheated on other servers (ofcourse we ban if we find them..) then ban 1 clean player. Posting cheaters to a public list without prof is bullshit... and you should know that! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: 19. januar 2005 22:53 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files) www.steambans.com is a wonderful service. Sadly, to take advantage of such a service, certain prereqs have to be met. Of which, I don't (I run a CS:S server out of the office, no clan, no website, no irc channel, just something me and the guys here do... build a game server, set it up, then let it go public). I was wondering if anyone would like to share up their banned_user.cfg contents. All my bans on my server have been very obvious cheaters (almost all speedhackers). banid 0 STEAM_0:1:4151131 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:5345510 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:6454151 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:4851060 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:89911 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:5205849 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:1047784 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:3114641 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:592926 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:1052119 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:1699044 Small list, but my server has only been running for 8 days. If anyone else would like to share up, feel free. ~Tony ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files)
www.steambans.com is a wonderful service. Sadly, to take advantage of such a service, certain prereqs have to be met. Of which, I don't (I run a CS:S server out of the office, no clan, no website, no irc channel, just something me and the guys here do... build a game server, set it up, then let it go public). I was wondering if anyone would like to share up their banned_user.cfg contents. All my bans on my server have been very obvious cheaters (almost all speedhackers). banid 0 STEAM_0:1:4151131 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:5345510 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:6454151 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:4851060 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:89911 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:5205849 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:1047784 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:3114641 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:592926 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:1052119 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:1699044 Small list, but my server has only been running for 8 days. If anyone else would like to share up, feel free. ~Tony ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files)
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] With the implementation of HLG 1.7, I have started a list as well and post it. http://www.cybergamezone.net Link Hacker List -DOA Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.steambans.com is a wonderful service. Sadly, to take advantage of such a service, certain prereqs have to be met. Of which, I don't (I run a CS:S server out of the office, no clan, no website, no irc channel, just something me and the guys here do... build a game server, set it up, then let it go public). I was wondering if anyone would like to share up their banned_user.cfg contents. All my bans on my server have been very obvious cheaters (almost all speedhackers). banid 0 STEAM_0:1:4151131 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:5345510 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:6454151 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:4851060 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:89911 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:5205849 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:1047784 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:3114641 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:592926 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:1052119 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:1699044 Small list, but my server has only been running for 8 days. If anyone else would like to share up, feel free. ~Tony ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds YIM: cybergamezone2002 Gaming Website: http://www.cybergamezone.com My League: http://league.cybergamezone.com Hotwheels Website: http://store.cybergamezone.com Gaming Clan Website: http://www.cybergamezone.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files)
Steambans dont distribute a list as such. You give steambans.com your rcon password and they periodically check the users on your server if they are in the global banlist then remotely ban from from the server. They have a mod too which streamlines this, as far as I know (so the server queries the masterbanlist on connect, instead of the masterbanlist periodically scanning the servers). This is my general perception of the Steambans.com process. There is a Steambans group which you can join which allows any Joe Bloggs to submit a demo (found this through the forums). I'm not sure but maybe they allow you to add a server to their listing that way also (instead of having to set up a whole new group and all that). Regards, Ryan Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: 19 January 2005 21:53 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files) www.steambans.com is a wonderful service. Sadly, to take advantage of such a service, certain prereqs have to be met. Of which, I don't (I run a CS:S server out of the office, no clan, no website, no irc channel, just something me and the guys here do... build a game server, set it up, then let it go public). I was wondering if anyone would like to share up their banned_user.cfg contents. All my bans on my server have been very obvious cheaters (almost all speedhackers). banid 0 STEAM_0:1:4151131 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:5345510 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:6454151 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:4851060 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:89911 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:5205849 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:1047784 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:3114641 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:592926 banid 0 STEAM_0:1:1052119 banid 0 STEAM_0:0:1699044 Small list, but my server has only been running for 8 days. If anyone else would like to share up, feel free. ~Tony ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 17/01/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 17/01/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files)
Yeah, I've spoken with one of the mods at steambans, explained my situation, etc. And unfortunately, I am not qualified to use their services. I am already on the public team for submitting demos and such, but there are requirements that need to be met before I can use their scanner service. I was just throwing out an idea here that we share our personal ban files with one another. =) ~Tony ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files)
Steambans.com - Original Message - From: Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files) Yeah, I've spoken with one of the mods at steambans, explained my situation, etc. And unfortunately, I am not qualified to use their services. I am already on the public team for submitting demos and such, but there are requirements that need to be met before I can use their scanner service. I was just throwing out an idea here that we share our personal ban files with one another. =) ~Tony ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files)
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] lol. Someone must have missed the original message. James Nine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Steambans.com - Original Message - From: Tony To: Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Concerning Cheaters (sharing ban files) Yeah, I've spoken with one of the mods at steambans, explained my situation, etc. And unfortunately, I am not qualified to use their services. I am already on the public team for submitting demos and such, but there are requirements that need to be met before I can use their scanner service. I was just throwing out an idea here that we share our personal ban files with one another. =) ~Tony ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds YIM: cybergamezone2002 Gaming Website: http://www.cybergamezone.com My League: http://league.cybergamezone.com Hotwheels Website: http://store.cybergamezone.com Gaming Clan Website: http://www.cybergamezone.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
