Re: [hlds] Lovin the Heavy Update

2008-08-20 Thread Nephyrin Zey
You're still standing around unmoving for a while, and you have to
sacrifice your shotgun entirely to use it, meaning your only defense
is the slow-to-spin-up main gun.

I've seen complaints about nearly every new weapon so far being
overpowered (backburner, airblast, ubersaw, etc), and yet I am having
tons of fun in the game every day.

- Neph

On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:06 AM, tgnwells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe it was lag but I was spec'ing a heavy eat a sandwhich and he went
> straight from almost real small red bar to over half his health in one
> move (and then to no health since a soldier found him [and apparently
> really wanted that sandwich])
> Either way, the sandvich is cute and all but it kind of ruins it for me.
> It really SHOULDN'T easily stop you from dying while on fire, has no one
> noticed the only way to kill a heavy as a pyro mano-a-mano is to
> sacrifice 90% of your health? and that's only if you're sneaky enough to
> start attacking them before they shoot you. And not dying from being on
> fire is what dispensers and medics are there for.
>
> [??R] The-/> The sandvich heals in 4 parts i believe, with every munch or so? I'm not
>> seeing an instant 120 health, I did notice it can easily stop you from
>> dieing while on fire.
>>
>> tgnwells wrote:
>>
>>> I was looking forward to the update, but after playing it for only a
>>> couple of hours I can easily say I'm not happy with it.
>>> It seems rushed. The sandvich might have been a good idea but the way
>>> it's done makes no sense. Like it just instantly heals you at the start,
>>> rather than it being a gradual process. Same with arena. It's like the
>>> classes weren't designed for this kind of gameplay but Valve didn't care
>>> and did nothing to compensate.
>>> The new maps are nice, but I hate payload, and am really not into arena
>>> so it's like a waste to me. Oh, and I hate steel as well, so really
>>> there's nothing I'm very impressed with. Well actually I like that the
>>> custom tab is gone, but I probably won't be playing all that much after
>>> this so... uh yeah.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [hlds] Lovin the Heavy Update

2008-08-20 Thread tgnwells
Maybe it was lag but I was spec'ing a heavy eat a sandwhich and he went 
straight from almost real small red bar to over half his health in one 
move (and then to no health since a soldier found him [and apparently 
really wanted that sandwich])
Either way, the sandvich is cute and all but it kind of ruins it for me. 
It really SHOULDN'T easily stop you from dying while on fire, has no one 
noticed the only way to kill a heavy as a pyro mano-a-mano is to 
sacrifice 90% of your health? and that's only if you're sneaky enough to 
start attacking them before they shoot you. And not dying from being on 
fire is what dispensers and medics are there for.

[??R] The-/ The sandvich heals in 4 parts i believe, with every munch or so? I'm not 
> seeing an instant 120 health, I did notice it can easily stop you from 
> dieing while on fire.
>
> tgnwells wrote:
>   
>> I was looking forward to the update, but after playing it for only a 
>> couple of hours I can easily say I'm not happy with it.
>> It seems rushed. The sandvich might have been a good idea but the way 
>> it's done makes no sense. Like it just instantly heals you at the start, 
>> rather than it being a gradual process. Same with arena. It's like the 
>> classes weren't designed for this kind of gameplay but Valve didn't care 
>> and did nothing to compensate.
>> The new maps are nice, but I hate payload, and am really not into arena 
>> so it's like a waste to me. Oh, and I hate steel as well, so really 
>> there's nothing I'm very impressed with. Well actually I like that the 
>> custom tab is gone, but I probably won't be playing all that much after 
>> this so... uh yeah.
>>
>>   
>> 
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Re: [hlds] Lovin the Heavy Update

2008-08-19 Thread [??R] The-/
The sandvich heals in 4 parts i believe, with every munch or so? I'm not 
seeing an instant 120 health, I did notice it can easily stop you from 
dieing while on fire.

tgnwells wrote:
> I was looking forward to the update, but after playing it for only a 
> couple of hours I can easily say I'm not happy with it.
> It seems rushed. The sandvich might have been a good idea but the way 
> it's done makes no sense. Like it just instantly heals you at the start, 
> rather than it being a gradual process. Same with arena. It's like the 
> classes weren't designed for this kind of gameplay but Valve didn't care 
> and did nothing to compensate.
> The new maps are nice, but I hate payload, and am really not into arena 
> so it's like a waste to me. Oh, and I hate steel as well, so really 
> there's nothing I'm very impressed with. Well actually I like that the 
> custom tab is gone, but I probably won't be playing all that much after 
> this so... uh yeah.
>
>   

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Re: [hlds] Lovin the Heavy Update (tgnwells)

2008-08-19 Thread David
I agree that valve should make their arena maps modify in some way to make it 
more simaler to Halo 3's Swat. Maybe like...eveyrone 
gets equiped with very accurate...battle rifle remakes. headshots kill, 
everything else hurts a good amount you know..


just throwin ideas out there.

o and community map sucks...love the new pl map. + lumber yard should be 
converted into a pl map aswell...



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I was looking forward to the update, but after playing it for only a
couple of hours I can easily say I'm not happy with it.
It seems rushed. The sandvich might have been a good idea but the way
it's done makes no sense. Like it just instantly heals you at the start,
rather than it being a gradual process. Same with arena. It's like the
classes weren't designed for this kind of gameplay but Valve didn't care
and did nothing to compensate.
The new maps are nice, but I hate payload, and am really not into arena
so it's like a waste to me. Oh, and I hate steel as well, so really
there's nothing I'm very impressed with. Well actually I like that the
custom tab is gone, but I probably won't be playing all that much after
this so... uh yeah.

David wrote:
> Although i must suggest having the sandvich's taunt to be something 
> awesome..like he can throw it at someone and kill them. that
> would be a cool taunt. throws it like 200mph or sometin. not the same move as 
> when he attacks at least..
>
> Natasha i dont like much...it only slows em down for like .1 of a second :/
>
> would be awesome if it froze them for .1 seconds or w/e so they can become a 
> target for someone without such a large spray.
>
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> Clearly there must be a command line option to call a specific one for a
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> 2008/8/20 chillicane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> theres a new config file in cfg called config_arena.cfg
>>
>> this sets the server name to that.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:43 AM, steve grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> wtf
>>>
>>> cant change server name away from Team Fortress 2 Arena Server
>>>
>>>
>>> Spencer wrote:
>>>
>>>> They just corrected it.. lmao
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Patrick O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>> There appears to be a spelling mistake on
>>>>> http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heav

Re: [hlds] Lovin the Heavy Update

2008-08-19 Thread SakeFox
i would have to disagree.

you already have the fist taunt that actually has some range on the 
kill. another kill taunt would be to much. with the slow down i think 
its quite balanced. It slows people enough with out being over powered. 
i think if it froze them in place then it would be a issue.

David wrote:
> Although i must suggest having the sandvich's taunt to be something 
> awesome..like he can throw it at someone and kill them. that 
> would be a cool taunt. throws it like 200mph or sometin. not the same move as 
> when he attacks at least..
>
> Natasha i dont like much...it only slows em down for like .1 of a second :/
>
> would be awesome if it froze them for .1 seconds or w/e so they can become a 
> target for someone without such a large spray.
>
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> Clearly there must be a command line option to call a specific one for a
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>
> 2008/8/20 chillicane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   
>> theres a new config file in cfg called config_arena.cfg
>>
>> this sets the server name to that.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:43 AM, steve grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> wtf
>>>
>>> cant change server name away from Team Fortress 2 Arena Server
>>>
>>>
>>> Spencer wrote:
>>>   
 They just corrected it.. lmao

 On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Patrick O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
>> wrote:
>> 
 
> There appears to be a spelling mistake on
> http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heavy/images/06_sandvich.jpg
>
> @Cheese and dairy group
> +20 HEATLH
>
> Is this intended?
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Jonah Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Good! This is my reason for getting at least 10 achievements. The
>> 
>> other
>> 
>> two didn't do it for me, and I never use the HWG shotgun anyway. I
>> wonder what the taunt will be. :P
>>
>> bl4nkeh wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Sandvich!
>>> http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heavy/sandvich.htm
>>>
>>> Fudgstu wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 Thank you Jason for giving us an idea of the approx. time
 Blood, I think he means the update will be released hopefully at
 
>>> 2:30pm
>>>   
> PDT.
>
>   
 On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Blood Letter <

 
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>
>   
 
> I'm in a meeting from 2-3.  Excellent.
>
> I will inform my subordinates that they are now responsible.
>
> (Or, did he mean he would post with an update on timing at 2:30?)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:37:39 +
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update
>>
>> Well since that is only 3 hours away are you going to put the 6th
>>
>> 
> thing
>
>   
> on the Heavy Update website so we can have some preview of it to
>   
>>> keep
>>>   
> us
>
>   
> drooling.
>
>
>
>   
>> -VM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:31:22 -0700> From:
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> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com;
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> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update> > And 

Re: [hlds] Lovin the Heavy Update

2008-08-19 Thread tgnwells
I was looking forward to the update, but after playing it for only a 
couple of hours I can easily say I'm not happy with it.
It seems rushed. The sandvich might have been a good idea but the way 
it's done makes no sense. Like it just instantly heals you at the start, 
rather than it being a gradual process. Same with arena. It's like the 
classes weren't designed for this kind of gameplay but Valve didn't care 
and did nothing to compensate.
The new maps are nice, but I hate payload, and am really not into arena 
so it's like a waste to me. Oh, and I hate steel as well, so really 
there's nothing I'm very impressed with. Well actually I like that the 
custom tab is gone, but I probably won't be playing all that much after 
this so... uh yeah.

David wrote:
> Although i must suggest having the sandvich's taunt to be something 
> awesome..like he can throw it at someone and kill them. that 
> would be a cool taunt. throws it like 200mph or sometin. not the same move as 
> when he attacks at least..
>
> Natasha i dont like much...it only slows em down for like .1 of a second :/
>
> would be awesome if it froze them for .1 seconds or w/e so they can become a 
> target for someone without such a large spray.
>
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> From: Flubber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Clearly there must be a command line option to call a specific one for a
> server, can't you valve release all info for once?
>
> 2008/8/20 chillicane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>   
>> theres a new config file in cfg called config_arena.cfg
>>
>> this sets the server name to that.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:43 AM, steve grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> wtf
>>>
>>> cant change server name away from Team Fortress 2 Arena Server
>>>
>>>
>>> Spencer wrote:
>>>   
 They just corrected it.. lmao

 On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Patrick O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
>> wrote:
>> 
 
> There appears to be a spelling mistake on
> http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heavy/images/06_sandvich.jpg
>
> @Cheese and dairy group
> +20 HEATLH
>
> Is this intended?
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Jonah Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>   
>> Good! This is my reason for getting at least 10 achievements. The
>> 
>> other
>> 
>> two didn't do it for me, and I never use the HWG shotgun anyway. I
>> wonder what the taunt will be. :P
>>
>> bl4nkeh wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Sandvich!
>>> http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heavy/sandvich.htm
>>>
>>> Fudgstu wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 Thank you Jason for giving us an idea of the approx. time
 Blood, I think he means the update will be released hopefully at
 
>>> 2:30pm
>>>   
> PDT.
>
>   
 On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Blood Letter <

 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>   
 
> I'm in a meeting from 2-3.  Excellent.
>
> I will inform my subordinates that they are now responsible.
>
> (Or, did he mean he would post with an update on timing at 2:30?)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:37:39 +
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update
>>
>> Well since that is only 3 hours away are you going to put the 6th
>>
>> 
> thing
>
>   
> on the Heavy Update website so we can have some preview of it to
>   
>>> keep
>>>   
> us
>
>   
> drooling.
>
>
>>>

[hlds] Lovin the Heavy Update

2008-08-19 Thread David
Although i must suggest having the sandvich's taunt to be something 
awesome..like he can throw it at someone and kill them. that 
would be a cool taunt. throws it like 200mph or sometin. not the same move as 
when he attacks at least..

Natasha i dont like much...it only slows em down for like .1 of a second :/

would be awesome if it froze them for .1 seconds or w/e so they can become a 
target for someone without such a large spray.

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Clearly there must be a command line option to call a specific one for a
server, can't you valve release all info for once?

2008/8/20 chillicane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> theres a new config file in cfg called config_arena.cfg
>
> this sets the server name to that.
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:43 AM, steve grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > wtf
> >
> > cant change server name away from Team Fortress 2 Arena Server
> >
> >
> > Spencer wrote:
> > > They just corrected it.. lmao
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Patrick O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> There appears to be a spelling mistake on
> > >> http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heavy/images/06_sandvich.jpg
> > >>
> > >> @Cheese and dairy group
> > >> +20 HEATLH
> > >>
> > >> Is this intended?
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Jonah Hirsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Good! This is my reason for getting at least 10 achievements. The
> other
> > >>> two didn't do it for me, and I never use the HWG shotgun anyway. I
> > >>> wonder what the taunt will be. :P
> > >>>
> > >>> bl4nkeh wrote:
> > >>>
> >  Sandvich!
> >  http://www.steampowered.com/tf2/heavy/sandvich.htm
> > 
> >  Fudgstu wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > Thank you Jason for giving us an idea of the approx. time
> > > Blood, I think he means the update will be released hopefully at
> > 2:30pm
> > >
> > >> PDT.
> > >>
> > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Blood Letter <
> > >
> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >> I'm in a meeting from 2-3.  Excellent.
> > >>
> > >> I will inform my subordinates that they are now responsible.
> > >>
> > >> (Or, did he mean he would post with an update on timing at 2:30?)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >>> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:37:39 +
> > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] A Heavy Update
> > >>>
> > >>> Well since that is only 3 hours away are you going to put the 6th
> > >>>
> > >> thing
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >> on the Heavy Update website so we can have some preview of it to
> > keep
> > >>
> > >> us
> > >>
> > >> drooling.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> -VM
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >  Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:31:22 -0700> From:
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> > 
> > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com;
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> > >> posts by
> > >>
> > >> Alfred, Mike, Jason, and Eric.> > Jason usually tells us that it's
> > >>
> > >> going to
> > >>
> > >> happen soon, so when you see> his> post you know you have a couple
> > of
> > >>
> > >> hours
> > >>
> > >> at most to finish your sammich.> > No worries :)> > Keeper> >
> > >>
> > >> -Orig