Re: [hlds] TF2: rcon stops working
It's also our policy to set rcon on the command line. Makes things much more secure. On Dec 10, 2011 4:37 PM, "Team BOOM!" wrote: > > I no longer use the rcon_password setting in any server-side cfg files. A while back there was an exploit that was released where people could take over a server when it was done this way. I'm not exactly sure how and don't know if this is still an issue, but somehow they were able to grab the info from the server.cfg, I believe. It happened to us once and since I changed it, no one has successfully taken over our servers again. > > I now only set the rcon password for my servers in their command line by adding "+rcon_password" parameter. You may wish to look into this for your servers as well. Just a thought. > > Take care. > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eli Witt > Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 12:08 PM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2: rcon stops working > > When you send the password initially, the server sees you as an admin and allows rcon commands from you. Your client doesn't send the rcon password every time you send a command, and you don't need to retype it before every command. > > Obviously the server resets it's admin list when the rcon list is reset. > > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Brian wrote: >> >> Thanks for the help guys, I will try what you suggest. However, I still don't see why this issue arises if the client still has the correct password stored (cf. autocompleted value). Granted, the RCON connection may be reset, but if the password is saved then it should be able to re-establish it as necessary, no? >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Saul Rennison wrote: >>> >>> So put your server's RCON password in autoexec instead, is what Sebastian is suggesting. >>> >>> On Saturday, December 10, 2011, Sebastian Staudt wrote: >>> > From users of my RCON library I know that setting rcon_password in the server.cfg is sub-optimal. After a map change the server.cfg is reloaded and will – although the password is not changed – reset any RCON connections. >>> > Source uses TCP (and persistent connections) for RCON. It seems like rcon_password will automatically reset all connected RCON clients. >>> > >>> > Am Samstag, 10. Dezember 2011 um 16:23 schrieb Brian: >>> > >>> > When I set a the rcon_password in console to use on my server, it seems to stop working after the first command, or some length of time. >>> > >>> > Eg I do >>> > >>> > rcon_password password >>> > rcon exec etf2l >>> > >>> > then play some… then when wanting to go the next map I try >>> > >>> > rcon changelevel cp_snakewater >>> > >>> > … and it does nothing. >>> > >>> > I have to do >>> > >>> > rcon_password password >>> > rcon changelevel cp_snakewater >>> > >>> > to get it to work. >>> > >>> > The weird thing is, the stored value of rcon_password is still correct, ie it shows “rcon_password password” as the tab-complete when I start reentering the command. >>> > >>> > Is there like some kind of timeout as in sudo where you just have to enter your password again? >>> > >>> > ___ >>> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: >>> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Saul Rennison >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2: rcon stops working
I no longer use the rcon_password setting in any server-side cfg files. A while back there was an exploit that was released where people could take over a server when it was done this way. I'm not exactly sure how and don't know if this is still an issue, but somehow they were able to grab the info from the server.cfg, I believe. It happened to us once and since I changed it, no one has successfully taken over our servers again. I now only set the rcon password for my servers in their command line by adding "+rcon_password" parameter. You may wish to look into this for your servers as well. Just a thought. Take care. _ From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eli Witt Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 12:08 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2: rcon stops working When you send the password initially, the server sees you as an admin and allows rcon commands from you. Your client doesn't send the rcon password every time you send a command, and you don't need to retype it before every command. Obviously the server resets it's admin list when the rcon list is reset. On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Brian wrote: Thanks for the help guys, I will try what you suggest. However, I still don't see why this issue arises if the client still has the correct password stored (cf. autocompleted value). Granted, the RCON connection may be reset, but if the password is saved then it should be able to re-establish it as necessary, no? On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Saul Rennison wrote: So put your server's RCON password in autoexec instead, is what Sebastian is suggesting. On Saturday, December 10, 2011, Sebastian Staudt wrote: > From users of my RCON library I know that setting rcon_password in the server.cfg is sub-optimal. After a map change the server.cfg is reloaded and will - although the password is not changed - reset any RCON connections. > Source uses TCP (and persistent connections) for RCON. It seems like rcon_password will automatically reset all connected RCON clients. > > Am Samstag, 10. Dezember 2011 um 16:23 schrieb Brian: > > When I set a the rcon_password in console to use on my server, it seems to stop working after the first command, or some length of time. > > Eg I do > > rcon_password password > rcon exec etf2l > > then play some. then when wanting to go the next map I try > > rcon changelevel cp_snakewater > > . and it does nothing. > > I have to do > > rcon_password password > rcon changelevel cp_snakewater > > to get it to work. > > The weird thing is, the stored value of rcon_password is still correct, ie it shows "rcon_password password" as the tab-complete when I start reentering the command. > > Is there like some kind of timeout as in sudo where you just have to enter your password again? > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- Kind regards, Saul Rennison ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2: rcon stops working
When you send the password initially, the server sees you as an admin and allows rcon commands from you. Your client doesn't send the rcon password every time you send a command, and you don't need to retype it before every command. Obviously the server resets it's admin list when the rcon list is reset. On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Brian wrote: > Thanks for the help guys, I will try what you suggest. However, I still > don't see why this issue arises if the client still has the correct > password stored (cf. autocompleted value). Granted, the RCON connection may > be reset, but if the password is saved then it should be able to > re-establish it as necessary, no? > > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Saul Rennison wrote: > >> So put your server's RCON password in autoexec instead, is what Sebastian >> is suggesting. >> >> On Saturday, December 10, 2011, Sebastian Staudt >> wrote: >> > From users of my RCON library I know that setting rcon_password in the >> server.cfg is sub-optimal. After a map change the server.cfg is reloaded >> and will – although the password is not changed – reset any RCON >> connections. >> > Source uses TCP (and persistent connections) for RCON. It seems like >> rcon_password will automatically reset all connected RCON clients. >> > >> > Am Samstag, 10. Dezember 2011 um 16:23 schrieb Brian: >> > >> > When I set a the rcon_password in console to use on my server, it seems >> to stop working after the first command, or some length of time. >> > >> > Eg I do >> > >> > rcon_password password >> > rcon exec etf2l >> > >> > then play some… then when wanting to go the next map I try >> > >> > rcon changelevel cp_snakewater >> > >> > … and it does nothing. >> > >> > I have to do >> > >> > rcon_password password >> > rcon changelevel cp_snakewater >> > >> > to get it to work. >> > >> > The weird thing is, the stored value of rcon_password is still correct, >> ie it shows “rcon_password password” as the tab-complete when I start >> reentering the command. >> > >> > Is there like some kind of timeout as in sudo where you just have to >> enter your password again? >> > >> > ___ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> >> -- >> >> >> Kind regards, >> *Saul Rennison* >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2: rcon stops working
Thanks for the help guys, I will try what you suggest. However, I still don't see why this issue arises if the client still has the correct password stored (cf. autocompleted value). Granted, the RCON connection may be reset, but if the password is saved then it should be able to re-establish it as necessary, no? On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Saul Rennison wrote: > So put your server's RCON password in autoexec instead, is what Sebastian > is suggesting. > > On Saturday, December 10, 2011, Sebastian Staudt > wrote: > > From users of my RCON library I know that setting rcon_password in the > server.cfg is sub-optimal. After a map change the server.cfg is reloaded > and will – although the password is not changed – reset any RCON > connections. > > Source uses TCP (and persistent connections) for RCON. It seems like > rcon_password will automatically reset all connected RCON clients. > > > > Am Samstag, 10. Dezember 2011 um 16:23 schrieb Brian: > > > > When I set a the rcon_password in console to use on my server, it seems > to stop working after the first command, or some length of time. > > > > Eg I do > > > > rcon_password password > > rcon exec etf2l > > > > then play some… then when wanting to go the next map I try > > > > rcon changelevel cp_snakewater > > > > … and it does nothing. > > > > I have to do > > > > rcon_password password > > rcon changelevel cp_snakewater > > > > to get it to work. > > > > The weird thing is, the stored value of rcon_password is still correct, > ie it shows “rcon_password password” as the tab-complete when I start > reentering the command. > > > > Is there like some kind of timeout as in sudo where you just have to > enter your password again? > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > -- > > > Kind regards, > *Saul Rennison* > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2: rcon stops working
So put your server's RCON password in autoexec instead, is what Sebastian is suggesting. On Saturday, December 10, 2011, Sebastian Staudt wrote: > From users of my RCON library I know that setting rcon_password in the server.cfg is sub-optimal. After a map change the server.cfg is reloaded and will – although the password is not changed – reset any RCON connections. > Source uses TCP (and persistent connections) for RCON. It seems like rcon_password will automatically reset all connected RCON clients. > > Am Samstag, 10. Dezember 2011 um 16:23 schrieb Brian: > > When I set a the rcon_password in console to use on my server, it seems to stop working after the first command, or some length of time. > > Eg I do > > rcon_password password > rcon exec etf2l > > then play some… then when wanting to go the next map I try > > rcon changelevel cp_snakewater > > … and it does nothing. > > I have to do > > rcon_password password > rcon changelevel cp_snakewater > > to get it to work. > > The weird thing is, the stored value of rcon_password is still correct, ie it shows “rcon_password password” as the tab-complete when I start reentering the command. > > Is there like some kind of timeout as in sudo where you just have to enter your password again? > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- Kind regards, *Saul Rennison* ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2: rcon stops working
From users of my RCON library I know that setting rcon_password in the server.cfg is sub-optimal. After a map change the server.cfg is reloaded and will – although the password is not changed – reset any RCON connections. Source uses TCP (and persistent connections) for RCON. It seems like rcon_password will automatically reset all connected RCON clients. Am Samstag, 10. Dezember 2011 um 16:23 schrieb Brian: > When I set a the rcon_password in console to use on my server, it seems to > stop working after the first command, or some length of time. > Eg I do > rcon_password password > rcon exec etf2l > then play some… then when wanting to go the next map I try > rcon changelevel cp_snakewater > … and it does nothing. > I have to do > rcon_password password > rcon changelevel cp_snakewater > to get it to work. > The weird thing is, the stored value of rcon_password is still correct, ie it > shows “rcon_password password” as the tab-complete when I start reentering > the command. > Is there like some kind of timeout as in sudo where you just have to enter > your password again? > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2: rcon stops working
I will ask the sysadmin if such a conflict exists. I presume you mean the server-side server.cfg not the one in my client /tf folder. Thanks, Brian On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 4:22 PM, nanofix wrote: > Hello, > Are you using a server.cfg to store settings like rcon password and other > server settings? > If you have one, make sure the rcon password does match the one in config. > After loading a new map, the config will be executed. If you change rcon > password in console, it will revert back to "default" (empty) or it's using > the password from the cfg if you load a new map. > > Mikhail > > > On 10/12/2011 16:23, Brian wrote: > > When I set a the rcon_password in console to use on my server, it seems to > stop working after the first command, or some length of time. > > Eg I do > > rcon_password password > rcon exec etf2l > > then play some… then when wanting to go the next map I try > > rcon changelevel cp_snakewater > > … and it does nothing. > > I have to do > > rcon_password password > rcon changelevel cp_snakewater > > to get it to work. > > The weird thing is, the stored value of rcon_password is still correct, ie > it shows “rcon_password password” as the tab-complete when I start > reentering the command. > > Is there like some kind of timeout as in sudo where you just have to > enter your password again? > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit:https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] TF2: rcon stops working
Hello, Are you using a server.cfg to store settings like rcon password and other server settings? If you have one, make sure the rcon password does match the one in config. After loading a new map, the config will be executed. If you change rcon password in console, it will revert back to "default" (empty) or it's using the password from the cfg if you load a new map. Mikhail On 10/12/2011 16:23, Brian wrote: When I set a the rcon_password in console to use on my server, it seems to stop working after the first command, or some length of time. Eg I do |rcon_password password rcon exec etf2l| then play some... then when wanting to go the next map I try |rcon changelevel cp_snakewater | ... and it does nothing. I have to do |rcon_password password rcon changelevel cp_snakewater| to get it to work. The weird thing is, the stored value of rcon_password is still correct, ie it shows "rcon_password password" as the tab-complete when I start reentering the command. Is there like some kind of timeout as in |sudo| where you just have to enter your password again? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] TF2: rcon stops working
When I set a the rcon_password in console to use on my server, it seems to stop working after the first command, or some length of time. Eg I do rcon_password password rcon exec etf2l then play some… then when wanting to go the next map I try rcon changelevel cp_snakewater … and it does nothing. I have to do rcon_password password rcon changelevel cp_snakewater to get it to work. The weird thing is, the stored value of rcon_password is still correct, ie it shows “rcon_password password” as the tab-complete when I start reentering the command. Is there like some kind of timeout as in sudo where you just have to enter your password again? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
