RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Chris Barnett


That damn Peggle! I got so hooked I bought the deluxe version!

I've spent more time playing peggle than I have ETQW!


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Sent: 18 September 2007 02:45
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness


LOL - What a crock.

Don't get me wrong. I appreciate Mike as well. But i highly doubt he is
personally getting the binaries ready. He is more likely the project
manager or technical producer.

As far as bitching, I am not bitching at mike. I am bitching at valve for
once again posting a Date and only meeting it in the west coast. Luckily I
didn't take the day off of work due to the "Releasing on Monday". I
learned my lesson from the last time. And believe you me, I will be siting
here for several more hours playing peggle ; )

But hopefully, and I am sure you must agree if you're not crazy that
releasing on Monday, and releasing at 1 hour before Tuesday  is two very
different things.

Sorry for Hijacking the Technical discussion thread. Rant off!

BTW. Thanks Mike for the info. you have shared.



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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Greg Williams

LOL - What a crock.

Don't get me wrong. I appreciate Mike as well. But i highly doubt he is
personally getting the binaries ready. He is more likely the project
manager or technical producer.

As far as bitching, I am not bitching at mike. I am bitching at valve for
once again posting a Date and only meeting it in the west coast. Luckily I
didn't take the day off of work due to the "Releasing on Monday". I
learned my lesson from the last time. And believe you me, I will be siting
here for several more hours playing peggle ; )

But hopefully, and I am sure you must agree if you're not crazy that
releasing on Monday, and releasing at 1 hour before Tuesday  is two very
different things.

Sorry for Hijacking the Technical discussion thread. Rant off!

BTW. Thanks Mike for the info. you have shared.



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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Ray

I for one just want to thank Mike and the rest of valve for busting
hump and doing all they can to get this out to us..
and then listen to all the bitching from a bunch of people because it
didnt meet their schedule.
Mike has gone out of his way to patiently answer a lot of questions
here that does nothing more then keeps him away from the efforts of
getting the binaries ready.
Personally I think he should be gettings kudos for doing a great job.
Ray




At 09:13 PM 9/17/2007, Greg Williams wrote:

Sorry to hear that.

Yeah it is really piss poor that valve does this. I am in the game
development field/publishing field, and we never release a game later than
6pm CST.




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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Ray

I for one just want to thank Mike and the rest of valve for busting
hump and doing all they can to get this out to us..
and then listen to all the bitching from a bunch of people because it
didnt meet their schedule.
Mike has gone out of his way to patiently answer a lot of questions
here that does nothing more then keeps him away from the efforts of
getting the binaries ready.
Personally I think he should be gettings kudos for doing a great job.
Ray




At 09:13 PM 9/17/2007, Greg Williams wrote:

Sorry to hear that.

Yeah it is really piss poor that valve does this. I am in the game
development field/publishing field, and we never release a game later than
6pm CST.




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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Greg Williams
Sorry to hear that.

Yeah it is really piss poor that valve does this. I am in the game
development field/publishing field, and we never release a game later than
6pm CST.

If there is an issue we at least release a statement and postpone
completely.

I am a Valve Fanboy from the original TF. But this is silly.. Same thing
as DOD:S.


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RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Chris Barnett
Valve is Pacific time. They said "Late Monday" their time...so...that should
be in the next 5 hours!

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Valve Time

Errr time zone...

On 9/17/07, Hans Vos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Can you throw us a bone on a release time? Getting late on the east
> coast.;)
>
> Getting very late here in The Netherlands, 02:52 at night here at the
> moment. I'm not going to wait anymore, I'll see it in the morning :(.
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread 1nsane .
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Valve Time

Errr time zone...

On 9/17/07, Hans Vos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Can you throw us a bone on a release time? Getting late on the east
> coast.;)
>
> Getting very late here in The Netherlands, 02:52 at night here at the
> moment. I'm not going to wait anymore, I'll see it in the morning :(.
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Hans Vos

Can you throw us a bone on a release time? Getting late on the east coast.;)


Getting very late here in The Netherlands, 02:52 at night here at the
moment. I'm not going to wait anymore, I'll see it in the morning :(.

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RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread RMaioroff
Yeah, someone pointed that out to me. Sorry, I now see I missed several
posts prior to this where it was pretty much explained.

Regarding the winsock error, our 2k3R2 box is doing it:

http://forums.planetwca.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3226&d=1190072818

Thanks for the effort, this game is going to kick ass. Oh and like others
have already said, thank you for including the server admins during the
rollout. Makes our life easier when trying to provide a community instant
game access to our servers.

Cheers.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Durand
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 6:18 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

We haven't released the depots that contain the Linux and Windows
binaries yet.

I will look into the issue of the update tool losing its connection, but
for now you should just retry until it completes. :(

The percentage complete is presently only good for comic relief. ;)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RMaioroff
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:39 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

Mike Durand: We've tried unsuccessfully to install the tf2 content. Both
on
Windows 2003 and Latest Red Hat Enterprise Server. We did the normal -
hldsupdatetool -command update -game tf -dir c:\pub#18 -verify_all
(different for nix), and the installer had the following behaviors:

Windows 2003 R2:
First try, seemingly complete (installer said 100%) download of the
content.
However, in your previous post, you said that srcds.exe would be in the
orangebox folder. It's not. For us the executable is in the parent
folder to
orangebox. For example, using the above command line example, we have:
C:\pub#8\srcds.exe. The only contents of orangebox is a single folder
named
tf and no executables or any files at all.

Red Hat Enterprise Server:
Multiple attempts where the installer claimed a reset connection. This
is a
server in the same rack/datacenter as the windows box, with the servers
on
100M/bs to the public cloud. After about 6 times of the installer
getting
~30-50% complete and then failing with that error, other strange shit
started happening, like the progress / percentage readout saying
112038475672% complete. I used the verify directive so it should have
checked the file map and put srcds into the orangebox folder (as a child
asset), correct? Again, like windows, the *ONLY* object in the orangebox
folder for me is one folder named tf.

So naturally, you try to start the server instance and it fails.

Anyone have this problem? If it helps to know, this is the first package
we've downloaded for tf and it was just about one hour ago.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joey
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 4:21 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

I know this isnt a list for bitching and of any sort but i think we have
the
right to be carefull as to are next purchase, considering "CounterStrike
-
Hl2DM & TDM" were nothing but headaches with the periodic updates which
did
nothing but cripple the games and server's to the point that would
render
them not as much fun or playable for the matter.(Especially killing all
admins with the famous "allowservercommands 1" I mean come on I
think
alot of you agree with me right??

And money isnt an issue i just don't want my next purchase to be another
dissappointment..you know?

But this is my $0.02  :)


- Original Message -
From: "Brandon R. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness


> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> Windows Server 2003 SP2
>
> I was able to reproduce this several times. I haven't tried again
since
> getting all the content.
> 
> Brandon R. Miller
> Branzone Incorporated
> http://www.branzone.com
>  - Original Message -
>  From: Wh00pAss
>  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:58 PM
>  Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness
>
>
>  I'm using MS Server 2003 SP 2
>
>  - Original Message -
>  From: "Mike Durand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: 
>  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:33 PM
>  Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness
>
>
>  >I can't duplicate this on XP or Slackware Linux. What OS are you
guys
>  > using when you are seeing this problem?
>  >
>  > -Mike
>  >
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > [mailt

Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Tristan Pemble
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Are you at least able to tell us if either of the binaries will be available
with the beta release?

On 9/17/07, Mike Durand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We haven't released the depots that contain the Linux and Windows
> binaries yet.
>
> I will look into the issue of the update tool losing its connection, but
> for now you should just retry until it completes. :(
>
> The percentage complete is presently only good for comic relief. ;)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RMaioroff
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:39 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness
>
> Mike Durand: We've tried unsuccessfully to install the tf2 content. Both
> on
> Windows 2003 and Latest Red Hat Enterprise Server. We did the normal -
> hldsupdatetool -command update -game tf -dir c:\pub#18 -verify_all
> (different for nix), and the installer had the following behaviors:
>
> Windows 2003 R2:
> First try, seemingly complete (installer said 100%) download of the
> content.
> However, in your previous post, you said that srcds.exe would be in the
> orangebox folder. It's not. For us the executable is in the parent
> folder to
> orangebox. For example, using the above command line example, we have:
> C:\pub#8\srcds.exe. The only contents of orangebox is a single folder
> named
> tf and no executables or any files at all.
>
> Red Hat Enterprise Server:
> Multiple attempts where the installer claimed a reset connection. This
> is a
> server in the same rack/datacenter as the windows box, with the servers
> on
> 100M/bs to the public cloud. After about 6 times of the installer
> getting
> ~30-50% complete and then failing with that error, other strange shit
> started happening, like the progress / percentage readout saying
> 112038475672% complete. I used the verify directive so it should have
> checked the file map and put srcds into the orangebox folder (as a child
> asset), correct? Again, like windows, the *ONLY* object in the orangebox
> folder for me is one folder named tf.
>
> So naturally, you try to start the server instance and it fails.
>
> Anyone have this problem? If it helps to know, this is the first package
> we've downloaded for tf and it was just about one hour ago.
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joey
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 4:21 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness
>
> I know this isnt a list for bitching and of any sort but i think we have
> the
> right to be carefull as to are next purchase, considering "CounterStrike
> -
> Hl2DM & TDM" were nothing but headaches with the periodic updates which
> did
> nothing but cripple the games and server's to the point that would
> render
> them not as much fun or playable for the matter.(Especially killing all
> admins with the famous "allowservercommands 1" I mean come on I
> think
> alot of you agree with me right??
>
> And money isnt an issue i just don't want my next purchase to be another
> dissappointment..you know?
>
> But this is my $0.02  :)
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brandon R. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness
>
>
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > Windows Server 2003 SP2
> >
> > I was able to reproduce this several times. I haven't tried again
> since
> > getting all the content.
> > 
> > Brandon R. Miller
> > Branzone Incorporated
> > http://www.branzone.com
> >  ----- Original Message -
> >  From: Wh00pAss
> >  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:58 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness
> >
> >
> >  I'm using MS Server 2003 SP 2
> >
> >  - Original Message -
> >  From: "Mike Durand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  To: 
> >  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:33 PM
> >  Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness
> >
> >
> >  >I can't duplicate this on XP or Slackware Linux. What OS are you
> guys
> >  > using when you are seeing this problem?
> >  >
> >  > -Mike
> >  >
> >  > -Original Message-
> > 

RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Greg Williams

Mike,

Can you throw us a bone on a release time? Getting late on the east coast.;)

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RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Mike Durand
We haven't released the depots that contain the Linux and Windows
binaries yet.

I will look into the issue of the update tool losing its connection, but
for now you should just retry until it completes. :(

The percentage complete is presently only good for comic relief. ;)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RMaioroff
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:39 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

Mike Durand: We've tried unsuccessfully to install the tf2 content. Both
on
Windows 2003 and Latest Red Hat Enterprise Server. We did the normal -
hldsupdatetool -command update -game tf -dir c:\pub#18 -verify_all
(different for nix), and the installer had the following behaviors:

Windows 2003 R2:
First try, seemingly complete (installer said 100%) download of the
content.
However, in your previous post, you said that srcds.exe would be in the
orangebox folder. It's not. For us the executable is in the parent
folder to
orangebox. For example, using the above command line example, we have:
C:\pub#8\srcds.exe. The only contents of orangebox is a single folder
named
tf and no executables or any files at all.

Red Hat Enterprise Server:
Multiple attempts where the installer claimed a reset connection. This
is a
server in the same rack/datacenter as the windows box, with the servers
on
100M/bs to the public cloud. After about 6 times of the installer
getting
~30-50% complete and then failing with that error, other strange shit
started happening, like the progress / percentage readout saying
112038475672% complete. I used the verify directive so it should have
checked the file map and put srcds into the orangebox folder (as a child
asset), correct? Again, like windows, the *ONLY* object in the orangebox
folder for me is one folder named tf.

So naturally, you try to start the server instance and it fails.

Anyone have this problem? If it helps to know, this is the first package
we've downloaded for tf and it was just about one hour ago.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joey
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 4:21 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

I know this isnt a list for bitching and of any sort but i think we have
the
right to be carefull as to are next purchase, considering "CounterStrike
-
Hl2DM & TDM" were nothing but headaches with the periodic updates which
did
nothing but cripple the games and server's to the point that would
render
them not as much fun or playable for the matter.(Especially killing all
admins with the famous "allowservercommands 1" I mean come on I
think
alot of you agree with me right??

And money isnt an issue i just don't want my next purchase to be another
dissappointment..you know?

But this is my $0.02  :)


- Original Message -
From: "Brandon R. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness


> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> Windows Server 2003 SP2
>
> I was able to reproduce this several times. I haven't tried again
since
> getting all the content.
> 
> Brandon R. Miller
> Branzone Incorporated
> http://www.branzone.com
>  - Original Message -
>  From: Wh00pAss
>  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:58 PM
>  Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness
>
>
>  I'm using MS Server 2003 SP 2
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Mike Durand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: 
>  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:33 PM
>  Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness
>
>
>  >I can't duplicate this on XP or Slackware Linux. What OS are you
guys
>  > using when you are seeing this problem?
>  >
>  > -Mike
>  >
>  > -Original Message-----
>  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 1nsane .
>  > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:02 AM
>  > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>  > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness
>  >
>  > --
>  > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
>  > I had this happen to me before. But in my case it created the
Orange
> Box
>  > folder and then attempted to redownload everything into it. SO I
>  > canceled it
>  > and just moved the 1st tf folder into the orangebox folder and it
>  > verified
>  > it from there on. I am guessing the directory structure has been
> changed
>  > after the 1st phase of the content download.
>  > --
>  >
>  > 

RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread RMaioroff
Oh snap! My bad! I thought the server side binaries were out for the admins.
OK. Dang, sorry and please ignore my original post.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Ottalini
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 4:47 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

the binaries haven't been released yet, please be patient!


- Original Message -
From: "RMaioroff"
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness


> Mike Durand: We've tried unsuccessfully to install the tf2 content. Both
> on
> Windows 2003 and Latest Red Hat Enterprise Server. We did the normal -
> hldsupdatetool -command update -game tf -dir c:\pub#18 -verify_all
> (different for nix), and the installer had the following behaviors:
>
> Windows 2003 R2:
> First try, seemingly complete (installer said 100%) download of the
> content.
> However, in your previous post, you said that srcds.exe would be in the
> orangebox folder. It's not. For us the executable is in the parent folder
> to
> orangebox. For example, using the above command line example, we have:
> C:\pub#8\srcds.exe. The only contents of orangebox is a single folder
> named
> tf and no executables or any files at all.
>
> Red Hat Enterprise Server:
> Multiple attempts where the installer claimed a reset connection. This is
> a
> server in the same rack/datacenter as the windows box, with the servers on
> 100M/bs to the public cloud. After about 6 times of the installer getting
> ~30-50% complete and then failing with that error, other strange shit
> started happening, like the progress / percentage readout saying
> 112038475672% complete. I used the verify directive so it should have
> checked the file map and put srcds into the orangebox folder (as a child
> asset), correct? Again, like windows, the *ONLY* object in the orangebox
> folder for me is one folder named tf.
>
> So naturally, you try to start the server instance and it fails.
>
> Anyone have this problem? If it helps to know, this is the first package
> we've downloaded for tf and it was just about one hour ago.
>


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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Kevin Ottalini

the binaries haven't been released yet, please be patient!


- Original Message -
From: "RMaioroff"
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:39 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness



Mike Durand: We've tried unsuccessfully to install the tf2 content. Both
on
Windows 2003 and Latest Red Hat Enterprise Server. We did the normal -
hldsupdatetool -command update -game tf -dir c:\pub#18 -verify_all
(different for nix), and the installer had the following behaviors:

Windows 2003 R2:
First try, seemingly complete (installer said 100%) download of the
content.
However, in your previous post, you said that srcds.exe would be in the
orangebox folder. It's not. For us the executable is in the parent folder
to
orangebox. For example, using the above command line example, we have:
C:\pub#8\srcds.exe. The only contents of orangebox is a single folder
named
tf and no executables or any files at all.

Red Hat Enterprise Server:
Multiple attempts where the installer claimed a reset connection. This is
a
server in the same rack/datacenter as the windows box, with the servers on
100M/bs to the public cloud. After about 6 times of the installer getting
~30-50% complete and then failing with that error, other strange shit
started happening, like the progress / percentage readout saying
112038475672% complete. I used the verify directive so it should have
checked the file map and put srcds into the orangebox folder (as a child
asset), correct? Again, like windows, the *ONLY* object in the orangebox
folder for me is one folder named tf.

So naturally, you try to start the server instance and it fails.

Anyone have this problem? If it helps to know, this is the first package
we've downloaded for tf and it was just about one hour ago.




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RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread RMaioroff
Mike Durand: We've tried unsuccessfully to install the tf2 content. Both on
Windows 2003 and Latest Red Hat Enterprise Server. We did the normal -
hldsupdatetool -command update -game tf -dir c:\pub#18 -verify_all
(different for nix), and the installer had the following behaviors:

Windows 2003 R2:
First try, seemingly complete (installer said 100%) download of the content.
However, in your previous post, you said that srcds.exe would be in the
orangebox folder. It's not. For us the executable is in the parent folder to
orangebox. For example, using the above command line example, we have:
C:\pub#8\srcds.exe. The only contents of orangebox is a single folder named
tf and no executables or any files at all.

Red Hat Enterprise Server:
Multiple attempts where the installer claimed a reset connection. This is a
server in the same rack/datacenter as the windows box, with the servers on
100M/bs to the public cloud. After about 6 times of the installer getting
~30-50% complete and then failing with that error, other strange shit
started happening, like the progress / percentage readout saying
112038475672% complete. I used the verify directive so it should have
checked the file map and put srcds into the orangebox folder (as a child
asset), correct? Again, like windows, the *ONLY* object in the orangebox
folder for me is one folder named tf.

So naturally, you try to start the server instance and it fails.

Anyone have this problem? If it helps to know, this is the first package
we've downloaded for tf and it was just about one hour ago.


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joey
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 4:21 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

I know this isnt a list for bitching and of any sort but i think we have the
right to be carefull as to are next purchase, considering "CounterStrike -
Hl2DM & TDM" were nothing but headaches with the periodic updates which did
nothing but cripple the games and server's to the point that would render
them not as much fun or playable for the matter.(Especially killing all
admins with the famous "allowservercommands 1" I mean come on I think
alot of you agree with me right??

And money isnt an issue i just don't want my next purchase to be another
dissappointment..you know?

But this is my $0.02  :)


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From: "Brandon R. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness


> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> Windows Server 2003 SP2
>
> I was able to reproduce this several times. I haven't tried again since
> getting all the content.
> 
> Brandon R. Miller
> Branzone Incorporated
> http://www.branzone.com
>  - Original Message -
>  From: Wh00pAss
>  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:58 PM
>  Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness
>
>
>  I'm using MS Server 2003 SP 2
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
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>  To: 
>  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:33 PM
>  Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness
>
>
>  >I can't duplicate this on XP or Slackware Linux. What OS are you guys
>  > using when you are seeing this problem?
>  >
>  > -Mike
>  >
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>  >
>  > --
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>  > I had this happen to me before. But in my case it created the Orange
> Box
>  > folder and then attempted to redownload everything into it. SO I
>  > canceled it
>  > and just moved the 1st tf folder into the orangebox folder and it
>  > verified
>  > it from there on. I am guessing the directory structure has been
> changed
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Joey

I know this isnt a list for bitching and of any sort but i think we have the
right to be carefull as to are next purchase, considering "CounterStrike -
Hl2DM & TDM" were nothing but headaches with the periodic updates which did
nothing but cripple the games and server's to the point that would render
them not as much fun or playable for the matter.(Especially killing all
admins with the famous "allowservercommands 1" I mean come on I think
alot of you agree with me right??

And money isnt an issue i just don't want my next purchase to be another
dissappointment..you know?

But this is my $0.02  :)


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To: 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness



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Windows Server 2003 SP2

I was able to reproduce this several times. I haven't tried again since
getting all the content.

Brandon R. Miller
Branzone Incorporated
http://www.branzone.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Wh00pAss
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 2:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness


 I'm using MS Server 2003 SP 2

 - Original Message -
 From: "Mike Durand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:33 PM
 Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness


 >I can't duplicate this on XP or Slackware Linux. What OS are you guys
 > using when you are seeing this problem?
 >
 > -Mike
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 1nsane .
 > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:02 AM
 > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness
 >
 > --
 > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 > I had this happen to me before. But in my case it created the Orange
Box
 > folder and then attempted to redownload everything into it. SO I
 > canceled it
 > and just moved the 1st tf folder into the orangebox folder and it
 > verified
 > it from there on. I am guessing the directory structure has been
changed
 > after the 1st phase of the content download.
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RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread ShadowMoses
I ran the hldsupdatetool once when the files were first available.  I just
ran it again and cannot duplicate this error either.  It verified the files.
Windows Server 2003 R2

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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 12:34 PM
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Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

I can't duplicate this on XP or Slackware Linux. What OS are you guys
using when you are seeing this problem?

-Mike

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I had this happen to me before. But in my case it created the Orange Box
folder and then attempted to redownload everything into it. SO I
canceled it
and just moved the 1st tf folder into the orangebox folder and it
verified
it from there on. I am guessing the directory structure has been changed
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Brandon R. Miller
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Windows Server 2003 SP2

I was able to reproduce this several times. I haven't tried again since getting 
all the content.

Brandon R. Miller
Branzone Incorporated
http://www.branzone.com
  - Original Message -
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  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
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  Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness


  I'm using MS Server 2003 SP 2

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  To: 
  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:33 PM
  Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness


  >I can't duplicate this on XP or Slackware Linux. What OS are you guys
  > using when you are seeing this problem?
  >
  > -Mike
  >
  > -Original Message-
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  > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:02 AM
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  >
  > --
  > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  > I had this happen to me before. But in my case it created the Orange Box
  > folder and then attempted to redownload everything into it. SO I
  > canceled it
  > and just moved the 1st tf folder into the orangebox folder and it
  > verified
  > it from there on. I am guessing the directory structure has been changed
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RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Mike Durand
I can't duplicate this on XP or Slackware Linux. What OS are you guys
using when you are seeing this problem?

-Mike

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I had this happen to me before. But in my case it created the Orange Box
folder and then attempted to redownload everything into it. SO I
canceled it
and just moved the 1st tf folder into the orangebox folder and it
verified
it from there on. I am guessing the directory structure has been changed
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Wh00pAss

I'm using MS Server 2003 SP 2

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To: 
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 8:33 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness



I can't duplicate this on XP or Slackware Linux. What OS are you guys
using when you are seeing this problem?

-Mike

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I had this happen to me before. But in my case it created the Orange Box
folder and then attempted to redownload everything into it. SO I
canceled it
and just moved the 1st tf folder into the orangebox folder and it
verified
it from there on. I am guessing the directory structure has been changed
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread 1nsane .
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It doesn't happen anymore to me. But I was using Server 2003.
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Brandon R. Miller
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Same thing I experienced.

Brandon R. Miller
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  - Original Message -
  From: Wh00pAss
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 11:34 AM
  Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness


  Hi,

  I am using the following command line to download the content for tf2

  C:\Games\HLServer\HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game tf -dir
  c:\games\TF1

  When I have a fresh install of C:\Games\HLServer\HldsUpdateTool.exe the
  following file structure is created in my c:\games\TF1 folder:

  C:\Games\TF1
  C:\Games\TF1\hl2
  C:\Games\TF1\orangebox
  C:\Games\TF1\orangebox\tf
  C:\Games\TF1\InstallRecord.blob

  However, if I run the update a second time using the same command line the
  following file structure is crated with an additional tf folder:

  C:\Games\TF1
  C:\Games\TF1\hl2
  C:\Games\TF1\tf  <- new folder
  C:\Games\TF1\orangebox
  C:\Games\TF1\orangebox\tf
  C:\Games\TF1\InstallRecord.blob

  All the content is re-downloaded and placed into the C:\Games\TF1\tf instead
  of the C:\Games\TF1\orangebox\tf folder.

  Is this by design, or is there a problem somewhere thats causing this repeat
  of content?

  If I delete the C:\Games\HLServer\ClientRegistry.blob file, it happily puts
  the content back into C:\Games\TF1\orangebox\tf for one time only, then it
  goes back to putting it into C:\Games\TF1\tf

  Am I doing something wrong, or are other people experiencing this problem,
  if it is in fact a problem?

  Thanks

  Wh00pAss



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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread 1nsane .
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I had this happen to me before. But in my case it created the Orange Box
folder and then attempted to redownload everything into it. SO I canceled it
and just moved the 1st tf folder into the orangebox folder and it verified
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Vetwebhosting - Administrator

I have refreshed my install a few times and have not had the /tf folder
created.   Not sure.  I am also getting good download speeds, I know some
people have had slow download issues.

Jason F
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness



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Same thing I experienced.

Brandon R. Miller
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 - Original Message -
 From: Wh00pAss
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 11:34 AM
 Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness


 Hi,

 I am using the following command line to download the content for tf2

 C:\Games\HLServer\HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game tf -dir
 c:\games\TF1

 When I have a fresh install of C:\Games\HLServer\HldsUpdateTool.exe the
 following file structure is created in my c:\games\TF1 folder:

 C:\Games\TF1
 C:\Games\TF1\hl2
 C:\Games\TF1\orangebox
 C:\Games\TF1\orangebox\tf
 C:\Games\TF1\InstallRecord.blob

 However, if I run the update a second time using the same command line
the
 following file structure is crated with an additional tf folder:

 C:\Games\TF1
 C:\Games\TF1\hl2
 C:\Games\TF1\tf  <- new folder
 C:\Games\TF1\orangebox
 C:\Games\TF1\orangebox\tf
 C:\Games\TF1\InstallRecord.blob

 All the content is re-downloaded and placed into the C:\Games\TF1\tf
instead
 of the C:\Games\TF1\orangebox\tf folder.

 Is this by design, or is there a problem somewhere thats causing this
repeat
 of content?

 If I delete the C:\Games\HLServer\ClientRegistry.blob file, it happily
puts
 the content back into C:\Games\TF1\orangebox\tf for one time only, then
it
 goes back to putting it into C:\Games\TF1\tf

 Am I doing something wrong, or are other people experiencing this
problem,
 if it is in fact a problem?

 Thanks

 Wh00pAss



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[hlds] Team Fortress 2 update oddness

2007-09-17 Thread Wh00pAss

Hi,

I am using the following command line to download the content for tf2

C:\Games\HLServer\HldsUpdateTool.exe -command update -game tf -dir
c:\games\TF1

When I have a fresh install of C:\Games\HLServer\HldsUpdateTool.exe the
following file structure is created in my c:\games\TF1 folder:

C:\Games\TF1
C:\Games\TF1\hl2
C:\Games\TF1\orangebox
C:\Games\TF1\orangebox\tf
C:\Games\TF1\InstallRecord.blob

However, if I run the update a second time using the same command line the
following file structure is crated with an additional tf folder:

C:\Games\TF1
C:\Games\TF1\hl2
C:\Games\TF1\tf  <- new folder
C:\Games\TF1\orangebox
C:\Games\TF1\orangebox\tf
C:\Games\TF1\InstallRecord.blob

All the content is re-downloaded and placed into the C:\Games\TF1\tf instead
of the C:\Games\TF1\orangebox\tf folder.

Is this by design, or is there a problem somewhere thats causing this repeat
of content?

If I delete the C:\Games\HLServer\ClientRegistry.blob file, it happily puts
the content back into C:\Games\TF1\orangebox\tf for one time only, then it
goes back to putting it into C:\Games\TF1\tf

Am I doing something wrong, or are other people experiencing this problem,
if it is in fact a problem?

Thanks

Wh00pAss



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