Re: [OT] [hlds] Anyone know these players?

2004-09-06 Thread Ooks Server
I've been around long enough to know better to start screaming hacker
without observing the players for a bit first. What I saw was very
suspicious. There were two of them running around killing anything that
moved with a Tau. The most incriminating evidence was when I ran around a
corner and as soon as I cleared the wall, I was hit with a loaded Tau. Did
he see me coming because of a wallhack of some sort? Was he in the right
place at the right time? Even after what I saw, I still don't have enough
evidence to say with 100% surety that they were cheating. It's still
possible that the two of them were just very good. They were using mostly
the Tau for their kills, and there are a lot of kids that spend a lot of
time learning how to jump and kill with the Tau. They irritate the snot out
of the other players, but aren't really cheating.



- Original Message -
From: "Bryon Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 8:33 AM
Subject: RE: [OT] [hlds] Anyone know these players?


> I personally don't know any of these players but I have to agree that
there
> are too many people who loose and start screaming hackers.  I had someone
> call me a hacker the other day and I tell you right now.  I do not have
the
> first idea where to get nor how to hack half-life. . . Hell I can barely
run
> my server.  Anyways I told him... Look at the pings man mine is 66 yours
is
> 300 so my reaction time is about 4x faster then yours.  Anyways my point
is
> don't assume because someone is a sore looser that the other person is
> automatically hacking.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CorpseHumper
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 7:12 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [OT] [hlds] Anyone know these players?
>
> Typically, if I don't have solid evidence that a player is cheating, I
gauge
> my actions based on the rest of the players.
>
> What I mean is,... sometimes there will be 20 people in the server, and
one
> person comes in and goes 40-0.  People start leaving, griping constantly,
> and calling him a hacker.
>
> He might not be hacking or cheating.  He might very well be THAT good.
>  But if that player is so good he running the rest of my players off the
> server, he's got to go.
>
> 112-0 is way over the top.  My severs have "n00bfest" in the title, and
> hackers come in there sometimes that don't go 112-0...
>
> -
> CorpseHumper
> "Not just owned, degraded!"
> www.n00bfest.com
> www.noobfest.com
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> -
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:02:53 +0100, DarK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Opposing force?
> >
> > Do you have the Steam ID's?
> >
> > Check out the stats systems run by various servers and get info on
> > their Play
> >
> > www.op4-eurostats.de
> > www.gamenet.org.uk/stats
> > www.ag-stats.net
> >
> > There is another system at www.clan-fate.com but there has been
> > rumours of it been edited to favour certain players
> >
> > These scores do seem highly improbable but not un-heard of in this
> > mod... The general consensus is that they are good at the game
> >
> > The players most probably use scripts and exploit the million bugs
> > that are in the mod, this is what makes them incredibly fast and able
> > players
> >
> > The server also seems full of new players so I can't say that it
> > wasn't too hard to get those scores
> >
> > If you are wanting a reason to have them banned, you could claim that
> > that where been un-sports man like :P
> >
> > Usually doesn't go down too well though :P DarK
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis
> > Sent: 05 September 2004 02:02
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE:[OT] [hlds] Anyone know these players?
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ooks Server
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 6:08 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [hlds] Anyone know these players?
> > >
> > >
> > > http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/goodscores.jpg
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm not accusing them of cheating because I don't have enough
> > evidence. I
> > > really haven't

RE: [OT] [hlds] Anyone know these players?

2004-09-06 Thread DarK
Please remember that this is NOT CS

There are no rounds, and the server speed usually around 300 - 320, just
25-30 minutes of frag after frag!

Add the user's scripts to the account (If using), weapons can be changed
instantly, bunny hopping is possible in most opposing force servers as
well.

Couple this with a guy of decent aim and the correct players (available
on steam with loads of new players) you get the score with ease.

Opposing force is fast and damn near frustrating at times!

The score is possible and has been seen before.

But I agree it is high and I'm sure if it was brought to the correct
forums in the OP4 community, questions will be asked and raised!

DarK

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryon Hughes
Sent: 06 September 2004 17:33
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [OT] [hlds] Anyone know these players?

I personally don't know any of these players but I have to agree that
there
are too many people who loose and start screaming hackers.  I had
someone
call me a hacker the other day and I tell you right now.  I do not have
the
first idea where to get nor how to hack half-life. . . Hell I can barely
run
my server.  Anyways I told him... Look at the pings man mine is 66 yours
is
300 so my reaction time is about 4x faster then yours.  Anyways my point
is
don't assume because someone is a sore looser that the other person is
automatically hacking.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CorpseHumper
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 7:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT] [hlds] Anyone know these players?

Typically, if I don't have solid evidence that a player is cheating, I
gauge
my actions based on the rest of the players.

What I mean is,... sometimes there will be 20 people in the server, and
one
person comes in and goes 40-0.  People start leaving, griping
constantly,
and calling him a hacker.

He might not be hacking or cheating.  He might very well be THAT good.
 But if that player is so good he running the rest of my players off the
server, he's got to go.

112-0 is way over the top.  My severs have "n00bfest" in the title, and
hackers come in there sometimes that don't go 112-0...

-
CorpseHumper
"Not just owned, degraded!"
www.n00bfest.com
www.noobfest.com
Counter-Strikecorpsehumper.com:27015
Condition Zerocorpsehumper.com:27019
CS-Source corpsehumper.com:27018
-


On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:02:53 +0100, DarK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Opposing force?
>
> Do you have the Steam ID's?
>
> Check out the stats systems run by various servers and get info on
> their Play
>
> www.op4-eurostats.de
> www.gamenet.org.uk/stats
> www.ag-stats.net
>
> There is another system at www.clan-fate.com but there has been
> rumours of it been edited to favour certain players
>
> These scores do seem highly improbable but not un-heard of in this
> mod... The general consensus is that they are good at the game
>
> The players most probably use scripts and exploit the million bugs
> that are in the mod, this is what makes them incredibly fast and able
> players
>
> The server also seems full of new players so I can't say that it
> wasn't too hard to get those scores
>
> If you are wanting a reason to have them banned, you could claim that
> that where been un-sports man like :P
>
> Usually doesn't go down too well though :P DarK
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis
> Sent: 05 September 2004 02:02
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE:[OT] [hlds] Anyone know these players?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ooks Server
> > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 6:08 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [hlds] Anyone know these players?
> >
> >
> > http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/goodscores.jpg
> >
> >
> > I'm not accusing them of cheating because I don't have enough
> evidence. I
> > really haven't decided if they were cheating, or if they were just
> very
> > good. Does anyone recognize these player names?
> >
>
> FINALLY got my server box running temporarily. Sorry, I couldn't find
> anything in my HLGuard logs about Gangsta-Unit. Of course that doesn't
> mean
> much, because for the short time he was playing on my server I or
> another
> admin may have banned him for one reason or another. Sorry I couldn't
be
> more help.
>
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RE: [OT] [hlds] Anyone know these players?

2004-09-06 Thread Bryon Hughes
I personally don't know any of these players but I have to agree that there
are too many people who loose and start screaming hackers.  I had someone
call me a hacker the other day and I tell you right now.  I do not have the
first idea where to get nor how to hack half-life. . . Hell I can barely run
my server.  Anyways I told him... Look at the pings man mine is 66 yours is
300 so my reaction time is about 4x faster then yours.  Anyways my point is
don't assume because someone is a sore looser that the other person is
automatically hacking.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CorpseHumper
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 7:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT] [hlds] Anyone know these players?

Typically, if I don't have solid evidence that a player is cheating, I gauge
my actions based on the rest of the players.

What I mean is,... sometimes there will be 20 people in the server, and one
person comes in and goes 40-0.  People start leaving, griping constantly,
and calling him a hacker.

He might not be hacking or cheating.  He might very well be THAT good.
 But if that player is so good he running the rest of my players off the
server, he's got to go.

112-0 is way over the top.  My severs have "n00bfest" in the title, and
hackers come in there sometimes that don't go 112-0...

-
CorpseHumper
"Not just owned, degraded!"
www.n00bfest.com
www.noobfest.com
Counter-Strikecorpsehumper.com:27015
Condition Zerocorpsehumper.com:27019
CS-Source corpsehumper.com:27018
-


On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:02:53 +0100, DarK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Opposing force?
>
> Do you have the Steam ID's?
>
> Check out the stats systems run by various servers and get info on
> their Play
>
> www.op4-eurostats.de
> www.gamenet.org.uk/stats
> www.ag-stats.net
>
> There is another system at www.clan-fate.com but there has been
> rumours of it been edited to favour certain players
>
> These scores do seem highly improbable but not un-heard of in this
> mod... The general consensus is that they are good at the game
>
> The players most probably use scripts and exploit the million bugs
> that are in the mod, this is what makes them incredibly fast and able
> players
>
> The server also seems full of new players so I can't say that it
> wasn't too hard to get those scores
>
> If you are wanting a reason to have them banned, you could claim that
> that where been un-sports man like :P
>
> Usually doesn't go down too well though :P DarK
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis
> Sent: 05 September 2004 02:02
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE:[OT] [hlds] Anyone know these players?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ooks Server
> > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 6:08 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [hlds] Anyone know these players?
> >
> >
> > http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/goodscores.jpg
> >
> >
> > I'm not accusing them of cheating because I don't have enough
> evidence. I
> > really haven't decided if they were cheating, or if they were just
> very
> > good. Does anyone recognize these player names?
> >
>
> FINALLY got my server box running temporarily. Sorry, I couldn't find
> anything in my HLGuard logs about Gangsta-Unit. Of course that doesn't
> mean
> much, because for the short time he was playing on my server I or
> another
> admin may have banned him for one reason or another. Sorry I couldn't be
> more help.
>
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Re: [OT] [hlds] Anyone know these players?

2004-09-06 Thread CorpseHumper
Typically, if I don't have solid evidence that a player is cheating, I
gauge my actions based on the rest of the players.

What I mean is,... sometimes there will be 20 people in the server,
and one person comes in and goes 40-0.  People start leaving, griping
constantly, and calling him a hacker.

He might not be hacking or cheating.  He might very well be THAT good.
 But if that player is so good he running the rest of my players off
the server, he's got to go.

112-0 is way over the top.  My severs have "n00bfest" in the title,
and hackers come in there sometimes that don't go 112-0...

-
CorpseHumper
"Not just owned, degraded!"
www.n00bfest.com
www.noobfest.com
Counter-Strikecorpsehumper.com:27015
Condition Zerocorpsehumper.com:27019
CS-Source corpsehumper.com:27018
-


On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 11:02:53 +0100, DarK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Opposing force?
>
> Do you have the Steam ID's?
>
> Check out the stats systems run by various servers and get info on their
> Play
>
> www.op4-eurostats.de
> www.gamenet.org.uk/stats
> www.ag-stats.net
>
> There is another system at www.clan-fate.com but there has been rumours
> of it been edited to favour certain players
>
> These scores do seem highly improbable but not un-heard of in this
> mod... The general consensus is that they are good at the game
>
> The players most probably use scripts and exploit the million bugs that
> are in the mod, this is what makes them incredibly fast and able players
>
> The server also seems full of new players so I can't say that it wasn't
> too hard to get those scores
>
> If you are wanting a reason to have them banned, you could claim that
> that where been un-sports man like :P
>
> Usually doesn't go down too well though :P
> DarK
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis
> Sent: 05 September 2004 02:02
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE:[OT] [hlds] Anyone know these players?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ooks Server
> > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 6:08 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [hlds] Anyone know these players?
> >
> >
> > http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/goodscores.jpg
> >
> >
> > I'm not accusing them of cheating because I don't have enough
> evidence. I
> > really haven't decided if they were cheating, or if they were just
> very
> > good. Does anyone recognize these player names?
> >
>
> FINALLY got my server box running temporarily. Sorry, I couldn't find
> anything in my HLGuard logs about Gangsta-Unit. Of course that doesn't
> mean
> much, because for the short time he was playing on my server I or
> another
> admin may have banned him for one reason or another. Sorry I couldn't be
> more help.
>
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RE: [OT] [hlds] Anyone know these players?

2004-09-06 Thread DarK
Opposing force?

Do you have the Steam ID's?

Check out the stats systems run by various servers and get info on their
Play

www.op4-eurostats.de
www.gamenet.org.uk/stats
www.ag-stats.net

There is another system at www.clan-fate.com but there has been rumours
of it been edited to favour certain players

These scores do seem highly improbable but not un-heard of in this
mod... The general consensus is that they are good at the game

The players most probably use scripts and exploit the million bugs that
are in the mod, this is what makes them incredibly fast and able players

The server also seems full of new players so I can't say that it wasn't
too hard to get those scores

If you are wanting a reason to have them banned, you could claim that
that where been un-sports man like :P

Usually doesn't go down too well though :P
DarK
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis
Sent: 05 September 2004 02:02
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE:[OT] [hlds] Anyone know these players?

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ooks Server
> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 6:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [hlds] Anyone know these players?
>
>
> http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/goodscores.jpg
>
>
> I'm not accusing them of cheating because I don't have enough
evidence. I
> really haven't decided if they were cheating, or if they were just
very
> good. Does anyone recognize these player names?
>

FINALLY got my server box running temporarily. Sorry, I couldn't find
anything in my HLGuard logs about Gangsta-Unit. Of course that doesn't
mean
much, because for the short time he was playing on my server I or
another
admin may have banned him for one reason or another. Sorry I couldn't be
more help.




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RE:[OT] [hlds] Anyone know these players?

2004-09-04 Thread Dennis
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ooks Server
> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 6:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [hlds] Anyone know these players?
>
>
> http://zootal.no-ip.info/stuff/goodscores.jpg
>
>
> I'm not accusing them of cheating because I don't have enough evidence. I
> really haven't decided if they were cheating, or if they were just very
> good. Does anyone recognize these player names?
>

FINALLY got my server box running temporarily. Sorry, I couldn't find
anything in my HLGuard logs about Gangsta-Unit. Of course that doesn't mean
much, because for the short time he was playing on my server I or another
admin may have banned him for one reason or another. Sorry I couldn't be
more help.




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