Re: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
I'll second that, Alfred is at least here, and if it's something mentioned a few times, he usually looks at the threads and replies. Would be good to have more updates from Valve though about what's happening about specific issues, or things that are planned to change, perhaps even asking us from time to time what we think before applying these changes. I'm not gonna knock Alfred, he's helped Me too, and I've seen plenty answers from him on the list too. Steve! www.timerider.co.uk - Original Message - From: "[GS]Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 12:05 PM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine Bottom line is,is something VALVe has done I haven't personally agreed with.But knocking Alfred isn't right as he has helped me in private emails about a non-profit question for VALVe when I was having issue awhile back ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
Bottom line is,is something VALVe has done I haven't personally agreed with.But knocking Alfred isn't right as he has helped me in private emails about a non-profit question for VALVe when I was having issue awhile back with my servers.And I appreciated him doing that EA wouldn't do thatat all. So thanks Alred for being available when you are a responding to questions when you can.You guys gotta remember Alfred has more going on inside the "Corp" besides answering mailing list questions. -BeNt- http://www.gorillazsouth.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
Appropriate disclaimer should do the trick :) On 11/01/07, Ook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They can't. There are very strict policies covering what is said by any Valve employee here or in any public forum. One slip of the tongue, and Valve gets sued and the employee gets fired. Alfred hates not being able to talk here as much as we hate him not talking, but they would fire his arse real fast if he says the wrong thing - or spends too much time here. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:42 AM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine > Sorry for starting all this guys. I just didn't think it was right to pat > Alfred on the back for the quick response when his sole motivation was not > to help the group. I would like to see Valve (Alfred or whoever) chime in > more on some of these topics and they don't do it. > > Once again, sorry to all... > > >> >> From: Da-Huntha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2007/01/10 Wed AM 05:56:19 CST >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine >> >> You guys gone quite off-topic, useless mailbox filling... (Much like >> this message). >> >> Jason wrote: >> > NO! The aliens who abducted him are using their mind control implants >> > that they implanted using a blood transfusion. >> > {MDA} Spotta wrote: >> >> Lol! >> >> >> >> That's not hard to do on this list! >> >> >> >> -Original Message----- >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL >> >> Sent: 10 January 2007 08:59 >> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine >> >> >> >> -- >> >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> >> Just look what you did. You started a conspiracy theory. >> >> Congratulations >> >> >> >> =] >> >> >> >> On 1/10/07, {MDA} Spotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Give me a break. it was a light hearted joke >> >>> >> >>> Hence the =] >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> >> archives, please visit: >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
They can't. There are very strict policies covering what is said by any Valve employee here or in any public forum. One slip of the tongue, and Valve gets sued and the employee gets fired. Alfred hates not being able to talk here as much as we hate him not talking, but they would fire his arse real fast if he says the wrong thing - or spends too much time here. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:42 AM Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine Sorry for starting all this guys. I just didn't think it was right to pat Alfred on the back for the quick response when his sole motivation was not to help the group. I would like to see Valve (Alfred or whoever) chime in more on some of these topics and they don't do it. Once again, sorry to all... From: Da-Huntha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2007/01/10 Wed AM 05:56:19 CST To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine You guys gone quite off-topic, useless mailbox filling... (Much like this message). Jason wrote: > NO! The aliens who abducted him are using their mind control implants > that they implanted using a blood transfusion. > {MDA} Spotta wrote: >> Lol! >> >> That's not hard to do on this list! >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL >> Sent: 10 January 2007 08:59 >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine >> >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> Just look what you did. You started a conspiracy theory. >> Congratulations >> >> =] >> >> On 1/10/07, {MDA} Spotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Give me a break. it was a light hearted joke >>> >>> Hence the =] >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
But think of the time-scale Someone recommends an idea: Has to forward to management, have a few meetings, talk to programmers, decide to implement and then report Someone has a bug: Has to confirm the bug, talk to the devs and find a date for a patch, report Wants to speak to a sales person about licences: Presses 'forward' and types [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for having the time for any of this Alfred, I know a lot of companies don't tend to listen anywhere, never mind reply. Graham On 10/01/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry for starting all this guys. I just didn't think it was right to pat Alfred on the back for the quick response when his sole motivation was not to help the group. I would like to see Valve (Alfred or whoever) chime in more on some of these topics and they don't do it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
Sorry for starting all this guys. I just didn't think it was right to pat Alfred on the back for the quick response when his sole motivation was not to help the group. I would like to see Valve (Alfred or whoever) chime in more on some of these topics and they don't do it. Once again, sorry to all... > > From: Da-Huntha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2007/01/10 Wed AM 05:56:19 CST > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine > > You guys gone quite off-topic, useless mailbox filling... (Much like > this message). > > Jason wrote: > > NO! The aliens who abducted him are using their mind control implants > > that they implanted using a blood transfusion. > > {MDA} Spotta wrote: > >> Lol! > >> > >> That's not hard to do on this list! > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL > >> Sent: 10 January 2007 08:59 > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine > >> > >> -- > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >> Just look what you did. You started a conspiracy theory. Congratulations > >> > >> =] > >> > >> On 1/10/07, {MDA} Spotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> Give me a break. it was a light hearted joke > >>> > >>> Hence the =] > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
You guys gone quite off-topic, useless mailbox filling... (Much like this message). Jason wrote: NO! The aliens who abducted him are using their mind control implants that they implanted using a blood transfusion. {MDA} Spotta wrote: Lol! That's not hard to do on this list! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL Sent: 10 January 2007 08:59 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Just look what you did. You started a conspiracy theory. Congratulations =] On 1/10/07, {MDA} Spotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Give me a break. it was a light hearted joke Hence the =] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
NO! The aliens who abducted him are using their mind control implants that they implanted using a blood transfusion. {MDA} Spotta wrote: Lol! That's not hard to do on this list! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL Sent: 10 January 2007 08:59 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Just look what you did. You started a conspiracy theory. Congratulations =] On 1/10/07, {MDA} Spotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Give me a break. it was a light hearted joke Hence the =] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
Lol! That's not hard to do on this list! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cc2iscooL Sent: 10 January 2007 08:59 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Just look what you did. You started a conspiracy theory. Congratulations =] On 1/10/07, {MDA} Spotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Give me a break. it was a light hearted joke > > Hence the =] > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Just look what you did. You started a conspiracy theory. Congratulations =] On 1/10/07, {MDA} Spotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Give me a break. it was a light hearted joke > > Hence the =] > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter M (Mashy) > Sent: 10 January 2007 01:35 > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > some answers take longer and rely on other people - give him a break! > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
Give me a break. it was a light hearted joke Hence the =] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter M (Mashy) Sent: 10 January 2007 01:35 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] some answers take longer and rely on other people - give him a break! -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
Hi Joe! I'd love to chat with you babe. Warm Regards, Jon Biloh Director Operations, Velocity Servers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: +1 (888) 275-5754 Mobile: +1 (716) 949-3858 -Original Message- From: J. Laws - Hi-Definition Gaming [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 12:01 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine Hi, this is the real world...are you available for a chat? -Original Message- From: Michael Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:23 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine This answer was purely about profit for valve. Like I said before, money is what matters for them. Unless you make a difference to their bottom line, you don't matter. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter M (Mashy) Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:35 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] some answers take longer and rely on other people - give him a break! -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
Hi, this is the real world...are you available for a chat? -Original Message- From: Michael Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:23 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine This answer was purely about profit for valve. Like I said before, money is what matters for them. Unless you make a difference to their bottom line, you don't matter. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter M (Mashy) Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:35 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] some answers take longer and rely on other people - give him a break! -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
Well said :) The "Corporation" is always focussed on making money. Those companies which do not aim to make money, usually end up going under. Regards, Adam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Pettit Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2007 2:36 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine This is one of the basic concepts of capitalism and any business model. Business is entirely about a person or persons banding together with the objective to make a profit. If profit wasn't Valve's motivator, what would inspire them to continue to build platforms like Steam, and release new games? It doesn't just apply to Valve, it applies to _any_ company. If you want them to do something, the reason they do it is because you're either going to increase their bottom line, or because whatever you aren't satisfied with is decreasing their bottom line. -Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Jordan Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2007 4:23 p.m. To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine This answer was purely about profit for valve. Like I said before, money is what matters for them. Unless you make a difference to their bottom line, you don't matter. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] That's exactly right. At least someone has some common sense around here. On 1/9/07, Scott Pettit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is one of the basic concepts of capitalism and any business model. > Business is entirely about a person or persons banding together with the > objective to make a profit. > > If profit wasn't Valve's motivator, what would inspire them to continue > to build platforms like Steam, and release new games? > > It doesn't just apply to Valve, it applies to _any_ company. If you > want them to do something, the reason they do it is because you're > either going to increase their bottom line, or because whatever you > aren't satisfied with is decreasing their bottom line. > > -Scott > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Jordan > Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2007 4:23 p.m. > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine > > This answer was purely about profit for valve. Like I said before, money > is > what matters for them. Unless you make a difference to their bottom > line, > you don't matter. > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
This is one of the basic concepts of capitalism and any business model. Business is entirely about a person or persons banding together with the objective to make a profit. If profit wasn't Valve's motivator, what would inspire them to continue to build platforms like Steam, and release new games? It doesn't just apply to Valve, it applies to _any_ company. If you want them to do something, the reason they do it is because you're either going to increase their bottom line, or because whatever you aren't satisfied with is decreasing their bottom line. -Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Jordan Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2007 4:23 p.m. To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine This answer was purely about profit for valve. Like I said before, money is what matters for them. Unless you make a difference to their bottom line, you don't matter. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
Just stating a fact dude Don't take it personal. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Armstrong Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:30 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine Yep, its one big conspiracy and Valve hate you and your family. - Andrew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Jordan Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2007 2:23 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine This answer was purely about profit for valve. Like I said before, money is what matters for them. Unless you make a difference to their bottom line, you don't matter. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter M (Mashy) Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:35 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] some answers take longer and rely on other people - give him a break! -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
Careful, I have cats and that could be construed as a threat. You know what happens when threats are made on this mailing list -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:41 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] When you are not looking Valve kicks cats! On 1/10/07, Andrew Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yep, its one big conspiracy and Valve hate you and your family. > > - Andrew > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Jordan > Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2007 2:23 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine > > This answer was purely about profit for valve. Like I said before, > money is what matters for them. Unless you make a difference to their > bottom line, you don't matter. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter M > (Mashy) > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:35 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] some answers take > longer and rely on other people - give him a break! > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
Sssh Andrew, don't give it away. It isn't anything to do with the complexity of the answer required, the fact that it is a question that hasn't been answered before or that it happened to arrive just as I was checking the list (which happens a couple times day). Nah, couldn't be that. - Alfred Andrew Armstrong wrote: > Yep, its one big conspiracy and Valve hate you and your family. > > - Andrew > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Jordan > Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2007 2:23 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine > > This answer was purely about profit for valve. Like I said before, > money is > what matters for them. Unless you make a difference to their bottom > line, > you don't matter. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter M > (Mashy) > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:35 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] some answers take > longer > and rely on other people - give him a break! > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] When you are not looking Valve kicks cats! On 1/10/07, Andrew Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yep, its one big conspiracy and Valve hate you and your family. > > - Andrew > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Jordan > Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2007 2:23 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine > > This answer was purely about profit for valve. Like I said before, money > is > what matters for them. Unless you make a difference to their bottom line, > you don't matter. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter M (Mashy) > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:35 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] some answers take longer > and rely on other people - give him a break! > -- > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
Yep, its one big conspiracy and Valve hate you and your family. - Andrew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Jordan Sent: Wednesday, 10 January 2007 2:23 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine This answer was purely about profit for valve. Like I said before, money is what matters for them. Unless you make a difference to their bottom line, you don't matter. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter M (Mashy) Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:35 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] some answers take longer and rely on other people - give him a break! -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
This answer was purely about profit for valve. Like I said before, money is what matters for them. Unless you make a difference to their bottom line, you don't matter. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter M (Mashy) Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:35 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] some answers take longer and rely on other people - give him a break! -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
I agree, and at least he IS here, how many other people at valve can say that? Peter M (Mashy) wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] some answers take longer and rely on other people - give him a break! -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] some answers take longer and rely on other people - give him a break! -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
Aha! You can answer quickly if you need to Alfred! =] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: 09 January 2007 21:27 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine I have forwarded your details to the appropriate people, they will contact you directly. - Alfred RMaioroff wrote: > Hi all, > > This enquiry is aimed at the list moderator for Valve, primarily. > > I would like some contact information for the Valve rep whom can > discuss HL1 > engine licensing fees with me. I am a developer (small staff of 7- not > games, but healthcare ERM / CRM) and have a project model which > ideally uses > the HL1 engine. > > I am guessing this is going to be someone in sales? Please help me > get in > touch with the correct folks there. > > Your response is appreciated. > > Rob > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
I have forwarded your details to the appropriate people, they will contact you directly. - Alfred RMaioroff wrote: > Hi all, > > This enquiry is aimed at the list moderator for Valve, primarily. > > I would like some contact information for the Valve rep whom can > discuss HL1 > engine licensing fees with me. I am a developer (small staff of 7- not > games, but healthcare ERM / CRM) and have a project model which > ideally uses > the HL1 engine. > > I am guessing this is going to be someone in sales? Please help me > get in > touch with the correct folks there. > > Your response is appreciated. > > Rob > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Licensing fees for HL1 engine
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Here Rob, This link might help you find what you're looking for. http://www.valvesoftware.com/contact.html On 1/9/07, RMaioroff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > This enquiry is aimed at the list moderator for Valve, primarily. > > I would like some contact information for the Valve rep whom can discuss > HL1 > engine licensing fees with me. I am a developer (small staff of 7- not > games, but healthcare ERM / CRM) and have a project model which ideally > uses > the HL1 engine. > > I am guessing this is going to be someone in sales? Please help me get in > touch with the correct folks there. > > Your response is appreciated. > > Rob > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds