RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-30 Thread James Tucker


http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/sp2netwk.mspx#EIAA

I haven't looked at steam's socket usage whilst in the server browser, is it 
related to the limitations?

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 Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

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 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] This is no
 joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh
 the Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I
 want to refresh the server browser.  This occurs from the
 ingame browser and the steam browser.  If using the ingame
 browser I actually lose connection to the current game.

 This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.
 Firewall is on, and I just tried adding all of Steam to the
 firewall exceptions list and it still does it.  I never
 noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on anyone elses
 server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join
 my server.

 Any help would be appreciated.

 Dagok
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RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-30 Thread Alfred Reynolds
Serverbrowsing uses UDP and not TCP so it is no effected by this change.

- Alfred

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Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/sp2netwk.
mspx#EIAA

 I haven't looked at steam's socket usage whilst in the server
 browser, is it related to the limitations?

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  Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list
 
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  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] This is no
  joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh
  the Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I
  want to refresh the server browser.  This occurs from the
  ingame browser and the steam browser.  If using the ingame
  browser I actually lose connection to the current game.
 
  This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.
  Firewall is on, and I just tried adding all of Steam to the
  firewall exceptions list and it still does it.  I never
  noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on anyone elses
  server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join
  my server.
 
  Any help would be appreciated.
 
  Dagok
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Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-30 Thread Kevin Ottalini

Dagok:
   do a web search for:

+global udptimeout +router

Router help for slow or short server listings or line outages when you get a
server list

1.  Dont use USB if you can avoid it, always use ethernet.
   If your router has both USB and ethernet, make absolutely sure you do
NOT have both plugged in at the same time.

2.  Linksys BEFSR11, BEFSR41 and BEFSR81 routers
   the 11 and 41 versions 1 and 2 can be fixed by burning an older version
of the firmware (1.47)

This is mostly a client problem.
A few server related problems have also been reported, for example dropping
all clients occasionally.

partial list of equipment  -

Reported to have problems:
==
Linksys BEFSR41 v1 and v2 with all new versions of firmware, one old version
works ok (1.45.7)
Linksys BEFSR41 v3 and v4 (not compatible with old version of firmware)
Netgear FR114P router: http://www.netgear.com/products/details/FR114P.php
Westell
Gnet 22mbps wireless Broadband router
Westell 6100 modem and a Linksys WRT54G router
2Wire 1000S
Actiontec (most models)

reported ok:

speedtouch 330
Speedtouch 510
zyxel Prestege 643
---

these two links have detailed information on some working fixes for BT205,
might suggest something for your problem:

http://corz.org/comms/hardware/router/bt.voyager.205_router.how-to.php?page=all

http://www.geekstogo.com/forum/index.php?act=STf=11t=41371

- qUiCkSiLvEr

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Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list



Serverbrowsing uses UDP and not TCP so it is no effected by this change.

- Alfred

Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Tucker
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:17 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list




http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/sp2netwk.
mspx#EIAA


I haven't looked at steam's socket usage whilst in the server
browser, is it related to the limitations?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dagok
 Sent: 28 October 2005 23:09
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

 This is no
 joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh
 the Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I
 want to refresh the server browser.  This occurs from the
 ingame browser and the steam browser.  If using the ingame
 browser I actually lose connection to the current game.

 This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.
 Firewall is on, and I just tried adding all of Steam to the
 firewall exceptions list and it still does it.  I never
 noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on anyone elses
 server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join
 my server.

 Any help would be appreciated.

 Dagok
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RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-30 Thread Napier, Kevin
I should have know that..duh, sorry for first suggesting it.

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Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 2:41 PM
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Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


Serverbrowsing uses UDP and not TCP so it is no effected by this change.

- Alfred


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Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-28 Thread sKel

its probly just your internet connection.. when it loads up that massive
list of servers, it creates a bottleneck, so other things lose connection
temporarily. that would be my first guess.. cuz like a firewall wouldn't do
something like that.. my guess is either your internet connection, or you
just have a junkie router or something.

sKel

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This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the
Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser.
If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game.

This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on,
and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it
still does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my
server.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dagok
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RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-28 Thread dexion
i get the same thing I have a motorola router. I am just assuming it cant
handle the requests all at once (limited handles) and poops out.


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Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


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This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the
Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser.
If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game.

This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on,
and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it
still does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my
server.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dagok
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RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-28 Thread dexion
Junk router here :)

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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


its probly just your internet connection.. when it loads up that massive
list of servers, it creates a bottleneck, so other things lose connection
temporarily. that would be my first guess.. cuz like a firewall wouldn't do
something like that.. my guess is either your internet connection, or you
just have a junkie router or something.

sKel

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From: Dagok [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
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Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


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This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the
Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser.
If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game.

This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on,
and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it
still does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my
server.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dagok
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RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-28 Thread Napier, Kevin
Anything to do with XP's 10 simultainous tcp connections per app feature ?

Home or Pro?

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Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


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This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the 
Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the 
server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser.  If 
using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game.

This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on, and 
I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it still 
does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on anyone elses 
server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my server.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dagok
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Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-28 Thread sKel

i don't think that would be the case.. because it seems to me that steam
itself would probly just run on one connection. and i have xp pro and have
never had this happen, and i have also used it on home as well.. and i don't
see this problem flooding everywhere.. so i would assume its not the os. and
i know that at times when im working my connection to its max for a period
of time my connection will go out.. so i would most definatly look into it
being either your internet.. or router.. (if there is a router) maybe try
pluging straight into the modem and see if it does it? really i wouldn't
worry about it too much though...

sKel

- Original Message -
From: Napier, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


Anything to do with XP's 10 simultainous tcp connections per app feature ?

Home or Pro?

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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:09 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the
Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser.
If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game.

This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on,
and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it
still does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my
server.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dagok
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Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-28 Thread Dagok

It's a D-Link router, and I havent had a problem with any other
applications, games or server browsers.

Dagok

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To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list



its probly just your internet connection.. when it loads up that massive
list of servers, it creates a bottleneck, so other things lose connection
temporarily. that would be my first guess.. cuz like a firewall wouldn't
do
something like that.. my guess is either your internet connection, or you
just have a junkie router or something.

sKel

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From: Dagok [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:09 PM
Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


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This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh
the
Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam
browser.
If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current
game.

This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on,
and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and
it
still does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join
my
server.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dagok
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Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-28 Thread Dagok

Wouldnt worry about it?  I cant get server lists if I lose connection
everytime hit refresh, and it cuts off whatever else I have going that is
connected to the net.  I consider this a big problem.

And now that I think about it, I know this didnt occur before because just
last week (on previous WinXP install) I was browsing server for custom maps
to play.  So I really doubt its the router.

Dagok


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From: sKel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list



i don't think that would be the case.. because it seems to me that steam
itself would probly just run on one connection. and i have xp pro and have
never had this happen, and i have also used it on home as well.. and i
don't
see this problem flooding everywhere.. so i would assume its not the os.
and
i know that at times when im working my connection to its max for a period
of time my connection will go out.. so i would most definatly look into it
being either your internet.. or router.. (if there is a router) maybe try
pluging straight into the modem and see if it does it? really i wouldn't
worry about it too much though...

sKel

- Original Message -
From: Napier, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


Anything to do with XP's 10 simultainous tcp connections per app feature
?

Home or Pro?

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Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:09 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh
the
Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam
browser.
If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current
game.

This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on,
and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and
it
still does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join
my
server.

Any help would be appreciated.

Dagok
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RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list - OT

2005-10-28 Thread ray
Please take this to the Steampowered.com Forums or please list [OT] in the
subject. On your way check the settings of your Steam client and turn the
speed down in there. That is suppose to directly control how many servers it
queries at a time when you refresh.

Rayne

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dagok
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:47 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

Wouldnt worry about it?  I cant get server lists if I lose connection
everytime hit refresh, and it cuts off whatever else I have going that is
connected to the net.  I consider this a big problem.

And now that I think about it, I know this didnt occur before because just
last week (on previous WinXP install) I was browsing server for custom maps
to play.  So I really doubt its the router.

Dagok


- Original Message -
From: sKel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


i don't think that would be the case.. because it seems to me that steam
 itself would probly just run on one connection. and i have xp pro and have
 never had this happen, and i have also used it on home as well.. and i
 don't
 see this problem flooding everywhere.. so i would assume its not the os.
 and
 i know that at times when im working my connection to its max for a period
 of time my connection will go out.. so i would most definatly look into it
 being either your internet.. or router.. (if there is a router) maybe try
 pluging straight into the modem and see if it does it? really i wouldn't
 worry about it too much though...

 sKel

 - Original Message -
 From: Napier, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:27 PM
 Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


 Anything to do with XP's 10 simultainous tcp connections per app feature
 ?

 Home or Pro?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dagok
 Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:09 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


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 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh
 the
 Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
 server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam
 browser.
 If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current
 game.

 This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is on,
 and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and
 it
 still does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
 anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join
 my
 server.

 Any help would be appreciated.

 Dagok
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Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-28 Thread ozmosissound
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You could always try www.speedguide.net 's tcp optimizer to change the max 
number of connections per server  I am not sure if it will help your 
concern tho, as it sounds like a 'bursting' problem caused by something like 
antivirus/antispyware and/or a firewall or router. Maybe it's just because all 
3 are contributing as well.

But try the optimizer anyway.  You may enjoy some other effects from it on your 
connection.

--Ozz

-- Original message --

 i don't think that would be the case.. because it seems to me that steam
 itself would probly just run on one connection. and i have xp pro and have
 never had this happen, and i have also used it on home as well.. and i don't
 see this problem flooding everywhere.. so i would assume its not the os. and
 i know that at times when im working my connection to its max for a period
 of time my connection will go out.. so i would most definatly look into it
 being either your internet.. or router.. (if there is a router) maybe try
 pluging straight into the modem and see if it does it? really i wouldn't
 worry about it too much though...

 sKel

 - Original Message -
 From: Napier, Kevin
 To:
 Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:27 PM
 Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


 Anything to do with XP's 10 simultainous tcp connections per app feature ?

 Home or Pro?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dagok
 Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:09 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


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 This is no joke. I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh the
 Server browser list. I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
 server browser. This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam browser.
 If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current game.

 This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed. Firewall is on,
 and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and it
 still does it. I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
 anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and join my
 server.

 Any help would be appreciated.

 Dagok
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RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list - OT

2005-10-28 Thread ray
Sir,

I suggested a website, pointed you to a possible solution and that you
simply list OT in the subject so we can properly filter our inbound. Those
weew two things I gave you and 1 simple request. Not sure how long it's been
since you've trudged down to a nice quiet bar and had a cold one but I'd
suggest you take some time out of this weekend and go cool yourself off.
Call your momma and tell her you love her or something. This is a server
administration list as you well know and so should you also know that your
question definitely falls into the aforementioned title of OT. The net isn't
a place you show your ass at a guy who don't deserve it. If somebody else
stepped on your toe today go bark at them but don't light up on me during
your bad day. Might find a few teeth missing some day over shooting your
mouth off like this. Just some friendly advice.

Rayne

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dagok
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 7:35 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list -
OT

Thanks for the suggestion, it seems to have worked.

Your additional attitude was not required or welcome though.  I am a server
admin, and I have helped when I can on these mailing lists.  So people like
you and Eric can shove it up your elitist asses when it comes to telling
people to not use the mailing lists for help, even if it happens to be a
simple question that may not be directly related to a Linux or Win server.

I've seen far worse off topic discussions here that go on for days
unchecked.  So when 1 person (a server admin no less) asks for a little help
you may want to consider biting your tongue instead of being a jerkoff.

Dagok


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 4:10 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list -
OT


 Please take this to the Steampowered.com Forums or please list [OT] in the
 subject. On your way check the settings of your Steam client and turn the
 speed down in there. That is suppose to directly control how many servers
 it
 queries at a time when you refresh.

 Rayne

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dagok
 Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:47 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

 Wouldnt worry about it?  I cant get server lists if I lose connection
 everytime hit refresh, and it cuts off whatever else I have going that is
 connected to the net.  I consider this a big problem.

 And now that I think about it, I know this didnt occur before because just
 last week (on previous WinXP install) I was browsing server for custom
 maps
 to play.  So I really doubt its the router.

 Dagok


 - Original Message -
 From: sKel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


i don't think that would be the case.. because it seems to me that steam
 itself would probly just run on one connection. and i have xp pro and
 have
 never had this happen, and i have also used it on home as well.. and i
 don't
 see this problem flooding everywhere.. so i would assume its not the os.
 and
 i know that at times when im working my connection to its max for a
 period
 of time my connection will go out.. so i would most definatly look into
 it
 being either your internet.. or router.. (if there is a router) maybe try
 pluging straight into the modem and see if it does it? really i wouldn't
 worry about it too much though...

 sKel

 - Original Message -
 From: Napier, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:27 PM
 Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


 Anything to do with XP's 10 simultainous tcp connections per app
 feature
 ?

 Home or Pro?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dagok
 Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:09 PM
 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list


 This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
 --
 [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
 This is no joke.  I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh
 the
 Server browser list.  I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
 server browser.  This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam
 browser.
 If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current
 game.

 This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed.  Firewall is
 on,
 and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and
 it
 still does it.  I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely

Re: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list

2005-10-28 Thread Dan Stevens (IAmAI)
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I had the exact same problem with a crappy BT router that they supply for
free. I replaced it with a proper, wireless router and the problem has went.

Dan


On 29/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 You could always try www.speedguide.net http://www.speedguide.net 's tcp
 optimizer to change the max number of connections per server I am not
 sure if it will help your concern tho, as it sounds like a 'bursting'
 problem caused by something like antivirus/antispyware and/or a firewall or
 router. Maybe it's just because all 3 are contributing as well.

 But try the optimizer anyway. You may enjoy some other effects from it on
 your connection.

 --Ozz

 -- Original message --

  i don't think that would be the case.. because it seems to me that steam
  itself would probly just run on one connection. and i have xp pro and
 have
  never had this happen, and i have also used it on home as well.. and i
 don't
  see this problem flooding everywhere.. so i would assume its not the os.
 and
  i know that at times when im working my connection to its max for a
 period
  of time my connection will go out.. so i would most definatly look into
 it
  being either your internet.. or router.. (if there is a router) maybe
 try
  pluging straight into the modem and see if it does it? really i wouldn't
  worry about it too much though...
 
  sKel
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Napier, Kevin
  To:
  Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 5:27 PM
  Subject: RE: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list
 
 
  Anything to do with XP's 10 simultainous tcp connections per app
 feature ?
 
  Home or Pro?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dagok
  Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 6:09 PM
  To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: [hlds] Losing net connection when I refresh the server list
 
 
  This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
  --
  [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
  This is no joke. I am temporarily losing net connection when I refresh
 the
  Server browser list. I can play a game fine, until I want to refresh the
  server browser. This occurs from the ingame browser and the steam
 browser.
  If using the ingame browser I actually lose connection to the current
 game.
 
  This is a fresh WinXP SP2 install, all updates installed. Firewall is
 on,
  and I just tried adding all of Steam to the firewall exceptions list and
 it
  still does it. I never noticed the problem before, but I rarely play on
  anyone elses server but my own, so I usually just goto Favorites and
 join my
  server.
 
  Any help would be appreciated.
 
  Dagok
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