Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] WTF are you talking about? I'm not asking for child porn. On 10/18/05, Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > end!!! your asking how to access child porn hrmmm? fbi needs to visit your > house > > On 10/17/05, Mahmoud Foda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > How the hell do you get child porn? I've never heard of that at all. I > > mean > > i'm sure it happens but wow. I didn't know it was rampet. > > > > On 10/16/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > James, that is why we have disabled sprays completely. > > > It really is just not worth the hassle for something so peripheral to > > the > > > game. > > > > > > On 10/17/05, James McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > In this day and age, it's no different than owning a bar and > allowing > > > > minors > > > > to drink. Who get's worked over in the long run? I could download > all > > > the > > > > mods in the world to help me track them down... but if at 3am, when > > all > > > my > > > > admins are asleep, and the server is still full... there's not > always > > > > someone to investigate who's posting what. If some kid is playing, > and > > > > consertative mom walks in and see's some 13 year old spread on the > > > screen, > > > > she may take a negative interest in my establishment. It becomes my > > > fault, > > > > because I provided the place for that content to be displayed. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > James McKenna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:44 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well I don't see how the server owner can be sued and forced to > take > > > > away > > > > > every players ability to express theirself "in a good manner" > > through > > > > > sprays. Only thing he really can do is ban them from that server. > I > > > > really > > > > > do not see any grounds for him to be sued being that he has taken > > > action > > > > > against them by banning them. > > > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > From: "Ben Elvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:46 AM > > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social > > > interaction? > > > > >> Why would the same rules about normal social interaction not > apply? > > > Why > > > > >> would the fact that you communicate and interact through a game > > > > >> environment > > > > >> across the internet rather than face to face change the normal > > rules > > > of > > > > >> etiquette, sportsmanship and politeness? > > > > >> > > > > >> It is because some people like acting like thugs - and in this > > > > >> environment > > > > >> they can get away with it. > > > > >> > > > > >> And let's be honest here - the chap is talking about CHILD PORN > > > sprays. > > > > >> Which of you think that behaviour like that is acceptable in ANY > > > > >> circumstance? > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> -Original Message- > > > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > stalker333 > > > > >> Sent: 16 October 2005 09:33 > > > > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > >> Subject:
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
lol nice try... I will monmitor my site... and leave the rest to those who own sites of course... for those who charge... hummm could always hire someone J/K. No one said it was going to be easy... - Original Message - From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I put jim in charge of moderating the sprays of our thousands of unique STEAM ID's On 10/19/05, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why not simply NOT allow uploads of sprays directly to the Server. But allow Sprays to download after prior approval. Set up a area where people can send Sprays for Preview prior to loading on Server. Enough said... As long as someone out there wants Porn as a Spray... they will surely find a server that does not block it... I do have a couple kids playing on my Server and some of thier parents have talk to me. They realize I actively Ban any and all Porn Sprayers.. and they respect the fact Porn is an automatic BAN, I do check, more work but try to maintain a clean server. So the Parents do not hold me accountable for what someone else does They respect the fact I do take an action to eliminate it.. Thoughts on the Matter... - Original Message - From: "Brandon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > end!!! your asking how to access child porn hrmmm? fbi needs to visit your > house > > On 10/17/05, Mahmoud Foda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> How the hell do you get child porn? I've never heard of that at all. I >> mean >> i'm sure it happens but wow. I didn't know it was rampet. >> >> On 10/16/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > -- >> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> > James, that is why we have disabled sprays completely. >> > It really is just not worth the hassle for something so peripheral >> > to >> the >> > game. >> > >> > On 10/17/05, James McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > >> > > In this day and age, it's no different than owning a bar and allowing >> > > minors >> > > to drink. Who get's worked over in the long run? I could download all >> > the >> > > mods in the world to help me track them down... but if at 3am, >> > > when >> all >> > my >> > > admins are asleep, and the server is still full... there's not always >> > > someone to investigate who's posting what. If some kid is playing, >> > > and >> > > consertative mom walks in and see's some 13 year old spread on the >> > screen, >> > > she may take a negative interest in my establishment. It becomes >> > > my >> > fault, >> > > because I provided the place for that content to be displayed. >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Sincerely, >> > > >> > > James McKenna >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > - Original Message - >> > > From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > To: >> > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:44 AM >> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control >> > > >> > > >> > > > Well I don't see how the server owner can be sued and forced to >> > > > take >> > > away >> > > > every players ability to express theirself "in a good manner" >> through >> > > > sprays. Only thing he really can do is ban them from that >> > > > server. I >> > > really >> > > > do not see any grounds for him to be sued being that he has >> > > > taken >> > action >> > > > against them by banning them. >> > > > >> > > > Mike >> > > > - Original Message - >> > > > From: "Ben Elvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > To: >> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:46 AM >> > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >>I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social >> &g
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I put jim in charge of moderating the sprays of our thousands of unique STEAM ID's On 10/19/05, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why not simply NOT allow uploads of sprays directly to the Server. But > allow Sprays to download after prior approval. Set up a area where people > can send Sprays for Preview prior to loading on Server. Enough said... As > long as someone out there wants Porn as a Spray... they will surely find a > server that does not block it... > > I do have a couple kids playing on my Server and some of thier parents > have > talk to me. They realize I actively Ban any and all Porn Sprayers.. and > they respect the fact Porn is an automatic BAN, I do check, more work but > try to maintain a clean server. > > So the Parents do not hold me accountable for what someone else does > They respect the fact I do take an action to eliminate it.. > > Thoughts on the Matter... > > > - Original Message - > From: "Brandon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 6:48 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > end!!! your asking how to access child porn hrmmm? fbi needs to visit > your > > house > > > > On 10/17/05, Mahmoud Foda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> -- > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >> How the hell do you get child porn? I've never heard of that at all. I > >> mean > >> i'm sure it happens but wow. I didn't know it was rampet. > >> > >> On 10/16/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> > -- > >> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >> > James, that is why we have disabled sprays completely. > >> > It really is just not worth the hassle for something so peripheral to > >> the > >> > game. > >> > > >> > On 10/17/05, James McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > In this day and age, it's no different than owning a bar and > allowing > >> > > minors > >> > > to drink. Who get's worked over in the long run? I could download > all > >> > the > >> > > mods in the world to help me track them down... but if at 3am, when > >> all > >> > my > >> > > admins are asleep, and the server is still full... there's not > always > >> > > someone to investigate who's posting what. If some kid is playing, > >> > > and > >> > > consertative mom walks in and see's some 13 year old spread on the > >> > screen, > >> > > she may take a negative interest in my establishment. It becomes my > >> > fault, > >> > > because I provided the place for that content to be displayed. > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Sincerely, > >> > > > >> > > James McKenna > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > - Original Message - > >> > > From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > To: > >> > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:44 AM > >> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Well I don't see how the server owner can be sued and forced to > >> > > > take > >> > > away > >> > > > every players ability to express theirself "in a good manner" > >> through > >> > > > sprays. Only thing he really can do is ban them from that server. > I > >> > > really > >> > > > do not see any grounds for him to be sued being that he has taken > >> > action > >> > > > against them by banning them. > >> > > > > >> > > > Mike > >> > > > - Original Message - > >> > > > From: "Ben Elvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > > To: > >> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:46 AM > >> > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >>I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social > >>
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
Why not simply NOT allow uploads of sprays directly to the Server. But allow Sprays to download after prior approval. Set up a area where people can send Sprays for Preview prior to loading on Server. Enough said... As long as someone out there wants Porn as a Spray... they will surely find a server that does not block it... I do have a couple kids playing on my Server and some of thier parents have talk to me. They realize I actively Ban any and all Porn Sprayers.. and they respect the fact Porn is an automatic BAN, I do check, more work but try to maintain a clean server. So the Parents do not hold me accountable for what someone else does They respect the fact I do take an action to eliminate it.. Thoughts on the Matter... - Original Message - From: "Brandon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] end!!! your asking how to access child porn hrmmm? fbi needs to visit your house On 10/17/05, Mahmoud Foda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How the hell do you get child porn? I've never heard of that at all. I mean i'm sure it happens but wow. I didn't know it was rampet. On 10/16/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > James, that is why we have disabled sprays completely. > It really is just not worth the hassle for something so peripheral to the > game. > > On 10/17/05, James McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > In this day and age, it's no different than owning a bar and allowing > > minors > > to drink. Who get's worked over in the long run? I could download all > the > > mods in the world to help me track them down... but if at 3am, when all > my > > admins are asleep, and the server is still full... there's not always > > someone to investigate who's posting what. If some kid is playing, > > and > > consertative mom walks in and see's some 13 year old spread on the > screen, > > she may take a negative interest in my establishment. It becomes my > fault, > > because I provided the place for that content to be displayed. > > > > -- > > Sincerely, > > > > James McKenna > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > > > > > > > Well I don't see how the server owner can be sued and forced to > > > take > > away > > > every players ability to express theirself "in a good manner" through > > > sprays. Only thing he really can do is ban them from that server. I > > really > > > do not see any grounds for him to be sued being that he has taken > action > > > against them by banning them. > > > > > > Mike > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Ben Elvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:46 AM > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > > > > > > > > >>I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social > interaction? > > >> Why would the same rules about normal social interaction not > > >> apply? > Why > > >> would the fact that you communicate and interact through a game > > >> environment > > >> across the internet rather than face to face change the normal rules > of > > >> etiquette, sportsmanship and politeness? > > >> > > >> It is because some people like acting like thugs - and in this > > >> environment > > >> they can get away with it. > > >> > > >> And let's be honest here - the chap is talking about CHILD PORN > sprays. > > >> Which of you think that behaviour like that is acceptable in ANY > > >> circumstance? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 > > >> Sent: 16 October 2005 09:33 > > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > >> Subject: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > > >> > > >> Whisper, > > >> > > >> I agree, this "it's just a game" excuse crap
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] end!!! your asking how to access child porn hrmmm? fbi needs to visit your house On 10/17/05, Mahmoud Foda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > How the hell do you get child porn? I've never heard of that at all. I > mean > i'm sure it happens but wow. I didn't know it was rampet. > > On 10/16/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > James, that is why we have disabled sprays completely. > > It really is just not worth the hassle for something so peripheral to > the > > game. > > > > On 10/17/05, James McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > In this day and age, it's no different than owning a bar and allowing > > > minors > > > to drink. Who get's worked over in the long run? I could download all > > the > > > mods in the world to help me track them down... but if at 3am, when > all > > my > > > admins are asleep, and the server is still full... there's not always > > > someone to investigate who's posting what. If some kid is playing, and > > > consertative mom walks in and see's some 13 year old spread on the > > screen, > > > she may take a negative interest in my establishment. It becomes my > > fault, > > > because I provided the place for that content to be displayed. > > > > > > -- > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > James McKenna > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:44 AM > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > > > > > > > > > > Well I don't see how the server owner can be sued and forced to take > > > away > > > > every players ability to express theirself "in a good manner" > through > > > > sprays. Only thing he really can do is ban them from that server. I > > > really > > > > do not see any grounds for him to be sued being that he has taken > > action > > > > against them by banning them. > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Ben Elvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:46 AM > > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > > > > > > > > > > > >>I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social > > interaction? > > > >> Why would the same rules about normal social interaction not apply? > > Why > > > >> would the fact that you communicate and interact through a game > > > >> environment > > > >> across the internet rather than face to face change the normal > rules > > of > > > >> etiquette, sportsmanship and politeness? > > > >> > > > >> It is because some people like acting like thugs - and in this > > > >> environment > > > >> they can get away with it. > > > >> > > > >> And let's be honest here - the chap is talking about CHILD PORN > > sprays. > > > >> Which of you think that behaviour like that is acceptable in ANY > > > >> circumstance? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -Original Message- > > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 > > > >> Sent: 16 October 2005 09:33 > > > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > >> Subject: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > > > >> > > > >> Whisper, > > > >> > > > >> I agree, this "it's just a game" excuse crap is about as lame as it > > > >> gets! Its the same thing as when you call in to get help with your > > > >> credit card, computer, etc, and they act like assholes. They do it > > > >> because they can get away with it, usually, and love to be idiots > and > > > >> mean to others. It's a mental issue these people have. Don't get > > > >> yourself worked up over it, just ignore the idgits. > > > >> &g
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How the hell do you get child porn? I've never heard of that at all. I mean i'm sure it happens but wow. I didn't know it was rampet. On 10/16/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > James, that is why we have disabled sprays completely. > It really is just not worth the hassle for something so peripheral to the > game. > > On 10/17/05, James McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > In this day and age, it's no different than owning a bar and allowing > > minors > > to drink. Who get's worked over in the long run? I could download all > the > > mods in the world to help me track them down... but if at 3am, when all > my > > admins are asleep, and the server is still full... there's not always > > someone to investigate who's posting what. If some kid is playing, and > > consertative mom walks in and see's some 13 year old spread on the > screen, > > she may take a negative interest in my establishment. It becomes my > fault, > > because I provided the place for that content to be displayed. > > > > -- > > Sincerely, > > > > James McKenna > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > > > > > > > Well I don't see how the server owner can be sued and forced to take > > away > > > every players ability to express theirself "in a good manner" through > > > sprays. Only thing he really can do is ban them from that server. I > > really > > > do not see any grounds for him to be sued being that he has taken > action > > > against them by banning them. > > > > > > Mike > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Ben Elvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:46 AM > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > > > > > > > > >>I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social > interaction? > > >> Why would the same rules about normal social interaction not apply? > Why > > >> would the fact that you communicate and interact through a game > > >> environment > > >> across the internet rather than face to face change the normal rules > of > > >> etiquette, sportsmanship and politeness? > > >> > > >> It is because some people like acting like thugs - and in this > > >> environment > > >> they can get away with it. > > >> > > >> And let's be honest here - the chap is talking about CHILD PORN > sprays. > > >> Which of you think that behaviour like that is acceptable in ANY > > >> circumstance? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -Original Message- > > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 > > >> Sent: 16 October 2005 09:33 > > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > >> Subject: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > > >> > > >> Whisper, > > >> > > >> I agree, this "it's just a game" excuse crap is about as lame as it > > >> gets! Its the same thing as when you call in to get help with your > > >> credit card, computer, etc, and they act like assholes. They do it > > >> because they can get away with it, usually, and love to be idiots and > > >> mean to others. It's a mental issue these people have. Don't get > > >> yourself worked up over it, just ignore the idgits. > > >> > > >> -TheJointChief > > >> AKA StonedSmurf > > >> > > >> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:08:44 +1000 > > >> From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control > > >> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > >> > > >> -- > > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > >> How does the "It's just a game" statement justify any of the mulitude > > of > > >> transgressions one can accomplish in these games, just because they > > can. &
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] James, that is why we have disabled sprays completely. It really is just not worth the hassle for something so peripheral to the game. On 10/17/05, James McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In this day and age, it's no different than owning a bar and allowing > minors > to drink. Who get's worked over in the long run? I could download all the > mods in the world to help me track them down... but if at 3am, when all my > admins are asleep, and the server is still full... there's not always > someone to investigate who's posting what. If some kid is playing, and > consertative mom walks in and see's some 13 year old spread on the screen, > she may take a negative interest in my establishment. It becomes my fault, > because I provided the place for that content to be displayed. > > -- > Sincerely, > > James McKenna > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:44 AM > Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > > > > Well I don't see how the server owner can be sued and forced to take > away > > every players ability to express theirself "in a good manner" through > > sprays. Only thing he really can do is ban them from that server. I > really > > do not see any grounds for him to be sued being that he has taken action > > against them by banning them. > > > > Mike > > - Original Message - > > From: "Ben Elvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:46 AM > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > > > > > >>I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social interaction? > >> Why would the same rules about normal social interaction not apply? Why > >> would the fact that you communicate and interact through a game > >> environment > >> across the internet rather than face to face change the normal rules of > >> etiquette, sportsmanship and politeness? > >> > >> It is because some people like acting like thugs - and in this > >> environment > >> they can get away with it. > >> > >> And let's be honest here - the chap is talking about CHILD PORN sprays. > >> Which of you think that behaviour like that is acceptable in ANY > >> circumstance? > >> > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 > >> Sent: 16 October 2005 09:33 > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > >> Subject: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > >> > >> Whisper, > >> > >> I agree, this "it's just a game" excuse crap is about as lame as it > >> gets! Its the same thing as when you call in to get help with your > >> credit card, computer, etc, and they act like assholes. They do it > >> because they can get away with it, usually, and love to be idiots and > >> mean to others. It's a mental issue these people have. Don't get > >> yourself worked up over it, just ignore the idgits. > >> > >> -TheJointChief > >> AKA StonedSmurf > >> > >> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:08:44 +1000 > >> From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control > >> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > >> > >> -- > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >> How does the "It's just a game" statement justify any of the mulitude > of > >> transgressions one can accomplish in these games, just because they > can. > >> Why is acceptable to do something online that would not be acceptable > >> offline? I am aware of why people do it, but there is no rationale that > I > >> have seen anybody put forward thus far, that can possibily justify any > of > >> it. > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >> Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.1/135 - Release Date: > >> 10/15/2005 > >> > >> > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
Disable sprays or set decal frequency to 0 and please end this thread -Original Message- From: [xXx] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:52 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control excuse me, could you guys please end this sick ass child porn thread so i dont have to keep seeing it in my email? - Original Message - From: "Ben Elvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social interaction? > Why would the same rules about normal social interaction not apply? Why > would the fact that you communicate and interact through a game environment > across the internet rather than face to face change the normal rules of > etiquette, sportsmanship and politeness? > > It is because some people like acting like thugs - and in this environment > they can get away with it. > > And let's be honest here - the chap is talking about CHILD PORN sprays. > Which of you think that behaviour like that is acceptable in ANY > circumstance? > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 > Sent: 16 October 2005 09:33 > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > > Whisper, > > I agree, this "it's just a game" excuse crap is about as lame as it > gets! Its the same thing as when you call in to get help with your > credit card, computer, etc, and they act like assholes. They do it > because they can get away with it, usually, and love to be idiots and > mean to others. It's a mental issue these people have. Don't get > yourself worked up over it, just ignore the idgits. > > -TheJointChief > AKA StonedSmurf > > Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:08:44 +1000 > From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control > Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > How does the "It's just a game" statement justify any of the mulitude of > transgressions one can accomplish in these games, just because they can. > Why is acceptable to do something online that would not be acceptable > offline? I am aware of why people do it, but there is no rationale that I > have seen anybody put forward thus far, that can possibily justify any of > it. > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
excuse me, could you guys please end this sick ass child porn thread so i dont have to keep seeing it in my email? - Original Message - From: "Ben Elvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social interaction? > Why would the same rules about normal social interaction not apply? Why > would the fact that you communicate and interact through a game environment > across the internet rather than face to face change the normal rules of > etiquette, sportsmanship and politeness? > > It is because some people like acting like thugs - and in this environment > they can get away with it. > > And let's be honest here - the chap is talking about CHILD PORN sprays. > Which of you think that behaviour like that is acceptable in ANY > circumstance? > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 > Sent: 16 October 2005 09:33 > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > > Whisper, > > I agree, this "it's just a game" excuse crap is about as lame as it > gets! Its the same thing as when you call in to get help with your > credit card, computer, etc, and they act like assholes. They do it > because they can get away with it, usually, and love to be idiots and > mean to others. It's a mental issue these people have. Don't get > yourself worked up over it, just ignore the idgits. > > -TheJointChief > AKA StonedSmurf > > Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:08:44 +1000 > From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control > Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > How does the "It's just a game" statement justify any of the mulitude of > transgressions one can accomplish in these games, just because they can. > Why is acceptable to do something online that would not be acceptable > offline? I am aware of why people do it, but there is no rationale that I > have seen anybody put forward thus far, that can possibily justify any of > it. > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] On 10/16/05, Ako <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Amen. > > > -Opprinnelig melding- > > Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Steven Hartland > > Sendt: 16. oktober 2005 20:56 > > Til: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Emne: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control > > > > Instead it will get you locked up, way to go. > > > > Get all the details of these idiots to the relevant authorities and > > see how funny they think it is. > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds It's like janet jaksons titty where the superbowl is the server and the titty is child porn. The superbowl could not stop the titty yet it was still blamed for the unfortanate inncident. The titty can be explained if you realize that it is just a poor misguided sole trying to make themselves relevant by resorting to the only means they have. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I don't think anyone here is debating over whether or not such a spray is wrong, as we all know it is and it is sad that some have to revert to that kind of behavior. I think what got my panties in a bunch is when this poor guy started talking about potential litigation. It's a freaking game and games are meant to be fun. Then we start comparing it to real life and how it should be handled in the same way. That just isn't possible, case in pointthis mailing list. How many times has someone typed something that was completely taken out of context because it doesn't have the body language and facial animations to accompany and supplement the true meaning of the statement. I could come in here and say "Hey whisper you fucker" and many including him would probably be insulted, but do it in person where I give him a friendly tap on the arm and smile while I am doing it and it is a whole other situation. There just is no way to apply real life social norms to an online world and because of that can someone really be sued over anothers actions in which they have little control? Just deal with everyone that uses any kind of porn sprays, that is what I do. I have found that the ONLY real way to get a players attention is to affect their score. Slay for any offense you find and ban for the major ones. On 10/16/05, Steven Hartland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Instead it will get you locked up, way to go. > > Get all the details of these idiots to the relevant authorities and > see how funny they think it is. > > Steve / K > - Original Message - > From: "sKel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >i think its just sad that people have to have porn sprays.. let a lone > child > > porn sprays. i mean what exactly is the reason to even have one? all > they do > > is draw attention to you.. so i guess its the next best thing to > hacking? > > except porn sprays won't get your steam account locked. > > > > This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and > the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, > the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise > disseminating it or any information contained in it. > > In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please > telephone (023) 8024 3137 > or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
Instead it will get you locked up, way to go. Get all the details of these idiots to the relevant authorities and see how funny they think it is. Steve / K - Original Message - From: "sKel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> i think its just sad that people have to have porn sprays.. let a lone child porn sprays. i mean what exactly is the reason to even have one? all they do is draw attention to you.. so i guess its the next best thing to hacking? except porn sprays won't get your steam account locked. This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
i think its just sad that people have to have porn sprays.. let a lone child porn sprays. i mean what exactly is the reason to even have one? all they do is draw attention to you.. so i guess its the next best thing to hacking? except porn sprays won't get your steam account locked. - Original Message - From: "James McKenna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control In this day and age, it's no different than owning a bar and allowing minors to drink. Who get's worked over in the long run? I could download all the mods in the world to help me track them down... but if at 3am, when all my admins are asleep, and the server is still full... there's not always someone to investigate who's posting what. If some kid is playing, and consertative mom walks in and see's some 13 year old spread on the screen, she may take a negative interest in my establishment. It becomes my fault, because I provided the place for that content to be displayed. -- Sincerely, James McKenna - Original Message - From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control Well I don't see how the server owner can be sued and forced to take away every players ability to express theirself "in a good manner" through sprays. Only thing he really can do is ban them from that server. I really do not see any grounds for him to be sued being that he has taken action against them by banning them. Mike - Original Message - From: "Ben Elvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social interaction? Why would the same rules about normal social interaction not apply? Why would the fact that you communicate and interact through a game environment across the internet rather than face to face change the normal rules of etiquette, sportsmanship and politeness? It is because some people like acting like thugs - and in this environment they can get away with it. And let's be honest here - the chap is talking about CHILD PORN sprays. Which of you think that behaviour like that is acceptable in ANY circumstance? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 Sent: 16 October 2005 09:33 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control Whisper, I agree, this "it's just a game" excuse crap is about as lame as it gets! Its the same thing as when you call in to get help with your credit card, computer, etc, and they act like assholes. They do it because they can get away with it, usually, and love to be idiots and mean to others. It's a mental issue these people have. Don't get yourself worked up over it, just ignore the idgits. -TheJointChief AKA StonedSmurf Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:08:44 +1000 From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How does the "It's just a game" statement justify any of the mulitude of transgressions one can accomplish in these games, just because they can. Why is acceptable to do something online that would not be acceptable offline? I am aware of why people do it, but there is no rationale that I have seen anybody put forward thus far, that can possibily justify any of it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.1/135 - Release Date: 10/15/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
In this day and age, it's no different than owning a bar and allowing minors to drink. Who get's worked over in the long run? I could download all the mods in the world to help me track them down... but if at 3am, when all my admins are asleep, and the server is still full... there's not always someone to investigate who's posting what. If some kid is playing, and consertative mom walks in and see's some 13 year old spread on the screen, she may take a negative interest in my establishment. It becomes my fault, because I provided the place for that content to be displayed. -- Sincerely, James McKenna - Original Message - From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control Well I don't see how the server owner can be sued and forced to take away every players ability to express theirself "in a good manner" through sprays. Only thing he really can do is ban them from that server. I really do not see any grounds for him to be sued being that he has taken action against them by banning them. Mike - Original Message - From: "Ben Elvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social interaction? Why would the same rules about normal social interaction not apply? Why would the fact that you communicate and interact through a game environment across the internet rather than face to face change the normal rules of etiquette, sportsmanship and politeness? It is because some people like acting like thugs - and in this environment they can get away with it. And let's be honest here - the chap is talking about CHILD PORN sprays. Which of you think that behaviour like that is acceptable in ANY circumstance? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 Sent: 16 October 2005 09:33 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control Whisper, I agree, this "it's just a game" excuse crap is about as lame as it gets! Its the same thing as when you call in to get help with your credit card, computer, etc, and they act like assholes. They do it because they can get away with it, usually, and love to be idiots and mean to others. It's a mental issue these people have. Don't get yourself worked up over it, just ignore the idgits. -TheJointChief AKA StonedSmurf Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:08:44 +1000 From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How does the "It's just a game" statement justify any of the mulitude of transgressions one can accomplish in these games, just because they can. Why is acceptable to do something online that would not be acceptable offline? I am aware of why people do it, but there is no rationale that I have seen anybody put forward thus far, that can possibily justify any of it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.1/135 - Release Date: 10/15/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
Well I don't see how the server owner can be sued and forced to take away every players ability to express theirself "in a good manner" through sprays. Only thing he really can do is ban them from that server. I really do not see any grounds for him to be sued being that he has taken action against them by banning them. Mike - Original Message - From: "Ben Elvin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social interaction? Why would the same rules about normal social interaction not apply? Why would the fact that you communicate and interact through a game environment across the internet rather than face to face change the normal rules of etiquette, sportsmanship and politeness? It is because some people like acting like thugs - and in this environment they can get away with it. And let's be honest here - the chap is talking about CHILD PORN sprays. Which of you think that behaviour like that is acceptable in ANY circumstance? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 Sent: 16 October 2005 09:33 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control Whisper, I agree, this "it's just a game" excuse crap is about as lame as it gets! Its the same thing as when you call in to get help with your credit card, computer, etc, and they act like assholes. They do it because they can get away with it, usually, and love to be idiots and mean to others. It's a mental issue these people have. Don't get yourself worked up over it, just ignore the idgits. -TheJointChief AKA StonedSmurf Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:08:44 +1000 From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How does the "It's just a game" statement justify any of the mulitude of transgressions one can accomplish in these games, just because they can. Why is acceptable to do something online that would not be acceptable offline? I am aware of why people do it, but there is no rationale that I have seen anybody put forward thus far, that can possibily justify any of it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.1/135 - Release Date: 10/15/2005 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
RE: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control
I totally agree - doesn't a multiplayer game involve social interaction? Why would the same rules about normal social interaction not apply? Why would the fact that you communicate and interact through a game environment across the internet rather than face to face change the normal rules of etiquette, sportsmanship and politeness? It is because some people like acting like thugs - and in this environment they can get away with it. And let's be honest here - the chap is talking about CHILD PORN sprays. Which of you think that behaviour like that is acceptable in ANY circumstance? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stalker333 Sent: 16 October 2005 09:33 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] Re: Child porn sprays are out of control Whisper, I agree, this "it's just a game" excuse crap is about as lame as it gets! Its the same thing as when you call in to get help with your credit card, computer, etc, and they act like assholes. They do it because they can get away with it, usually, and love to be idiots and mean to others. It's a mental issue these people have. Don't get yourself worked up over it, just ignore the idgits. -TheJointChief AKA StonedSmurf Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:08:44 +1000 From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Child porn sprays are out of control Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How does the "It's just a game" statement justify any of the mulitude of transgressions one can accomplish in these games, just because they can. Why is acceptable to do something online that would not be acceptable offline? I am aware of why people do it, but there is no rationale that I have seen anybody put forward thus far, that can possibily justify any of it. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
