Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-17 Thread StealthMode
Just like CZ was a cash cow not even what 4 months ago? And now CS:S. Back
to back cash cows, and hl2. Its a triple crown.

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Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-16 Thread StealthMode
The official multiplayer of half life 2 is counter-strike:source. I read
that somewhere. Can't remember.

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Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-16 Thread Kevin Ottalini
All rumor - nothing official.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 7:08 AM

The official multiplayer of half life 2 is counter-strike:source. I read
that somewhere. Can't remember.

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Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-16 Thread Skirecs
Will there be a counter-strike mod for hte new HL2?

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2


 Im pretty sure that in that video he said something like We havent
 decided what to call it but it WONT be Counter-Strike 2
 maybe I will watch the video again but I think thats what he said.
 -booya




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 No rumour about it. Gabe explicitly said in the E3:2k4 video that HL2
 multiplayer WOULD be CS Source.
 
 --- Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 All rumor - nothing official.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: StealthMode
 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 7:08 AM
 
 The official multiplayer of half life 2 is counter-strike:source. I
 read
 that somewhere. Can't remember.
 
 -StealthMode
 
 
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Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
half_life2_counterstrike_source_demomovie.avi (get it here -
http://games.bigpond.com/pc/resources/files/details/html/11616)

10:32 One of the big questions is what about multiplayer. And so we
decided to combine the most popular online action game with the power
of the Half-Life 2 Engine. And we are going to show that to you. 

...Pan to screen showing Counter-Strike, followed by demo of Terrorist
attack sequence on Aztec. Voice over at end of demo film says
Counterstrike Source (which is what has been the most common
referential term for CS on HL2).

12:41 Is that counter-strike 2? or just a mod for HL2?

12:47 Not really sure how to (garbled speach) but we are not calling
it Counterstrike 2.

He does go on to say that all other HL1 engine content will be ported,
so it appears that there will be HLDM, DMC, etc. So, if my previous
statement sounded like CS would be the only multiplayer, I did not
intend that.  But the emphasis is definitely on CS, obviously because
it makes them the most money.

--- Ted Gribble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Im pretty sure that in that video he said something like We havent
 decided what to call it but it WONT be Counter-Strike 2
 maybe I will watch the video again but I think thats what he said.
 -booya




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 No rumour about it. Gabe explicitly said in the E3:2k4 video that
 HL2
 multiplayer WOULD be CS Source.
 
 --- Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 All rumor - nothing official.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: StealthMode
 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 7:08 AM
 
 The official multiplayer of half life 2 is counter-strike:source.
 I
 read
 that somewhere. Can't remember.
 
 -StealthMode
 
 
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Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-16 Thread Steven Hartland
We can always hope there wont  be :P

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 Will there be a counter-strike mod for hte new HL2?




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RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-16 Thread James Bowling
It is and was verified at E3 that Counter-Strike 2 will be called
Counter-Strike:Source.  This will be the HL2 Counter-Strike Mod.

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Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

Will there be a counter-strike mod for hte new HL2?

- Original Message -
From: Ted Gribble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2


 Im pretty sure that in that video he said something like We havent
 decided what to call it but it WONT be Counter-Strike 2
 maybe I will watch the video again but I think thats what he said.
 -booya




 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No rumour about it. Gabe explicitly said in the E3:2k4 video that HL2
 multiplayer WOULD be CS Source.
 
 --- Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 All rumor - nothing official.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: StealthMode
 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 7:08 AM
 
 The official multiplayer of half life 2 is counter-strike:source.
 I read that somewhere. Can't remember.
 
 -StealthMode
 
 
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RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-16 Thread spartibus
It's not really a mod, it is HL2's multiplayer. You buy HL2 you
automatically get CS:Source for free. It will ship with HL2.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 2:05 PM
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Subject: RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

It is and was verified at E3 that Counter-Strike 2 will be called
Counter-Strike:Source.  This will be the HL2 Counter-Strike Mod.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

Will there be a counter-strike mod for hte new HL2?

- Original Message -
From: Ted Gribble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2


 Im pretty sure that in that video he said something like We havent
 decided what to call it but it WONT be Counter-Strike 2
 maybe I will watch the video again but I think thats what he said.
 -booya




 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No rumour about it. Gabe explicitly said in the E3:2k4 video that HL2
 multiplayer WOULD be CS Source.
 
 --- Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 All rumor - nothing official.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: StealthMode
 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 7:08 AM
 
 The official multiplayer of half life 2 is counter-strike:source.
 I read that somewhere. Can't remember.
 
 -StealthMode
 
 
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RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yeah, I think it needs to be thought of now along the lines of being a
Gameplay variation now more than a mod... like how HLDM, DMC, Ricochet
(lol) are different types of gameplay... or like how Onslaught,
Assault, CTF, DM are gameplay types for UT2k4.

I think most people would consider a mod to be development work that
originated with the SDK, ouside of the Valve realm. Now that Valve owns
it and offers it, it becomes a gameplay variation.

I wouldn't think CS Source should be referred to as HL2 multiplayer, if
there is going to be an HL2 DM... seems more logical that the
multiplayer gampeplay of the SP game, should be referred as that

w/e... semantics.

--- spartibus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's not really a mod, it is HL2's multiplayer. You buy HL2 you
 automatically get CS:Source for free. It will ship with HL2.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Bowling
 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 2:05 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

 It is and was verified at E3 that Counter-Strike 2 will be called
 Counter-Strike:Source.  This will be the HL2 Counter-Strike Mod.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Skirecs
 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

 Will there be a counter-strike mod for hte new HL2?

 - Original Message -
 From: Ted Gribble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 3:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2


  Im pretty sure that in that video he said something like We havent
  decided what to call it but it WONT be Counter-Strike 2
  maybe I will watch the video again but I think thats what he said.
  -booya
 
 
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  No rumour about it. Gabe explicitly said in the E3:2k4 video that
 HL2
  multiplayer WOULD be CS Source.
  
  --- Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  All rumor - nothing official.
  
  - Original Message -
  From: StealthMode
  Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 7:08 AM
  
  The official multiplayer of half life 2 is
 counter-strike:source.
  I read that somewhere. Can't remember.
  
  -StealthMode
  
  
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RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-16 Thread spartibus
I didn't think there was going to be a HL2 DM, as I read somewhere
(aren't I lucky to forget? lol) that there wasn't going to be any kind
of HL2 multiplayer other than CS: Source. If there is, then I suppose it
is just a mod, but I figured since it's the one and only, and it (was)
going to be HL2's only multiplayer, that I didn't consider it a mod. Oh
well, doesn't really matter at all anyways.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 6:59 PM
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Subject: RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

Yeah, I think it needs to be thought of now along the lines of being a
Gameplay variation now more than a mod... like how HLDM, DMC, Ricochet
(lol) are different types of gameplay... or like how Onslaught,
Assault, CTF, DM are gameplay types for UT2k4.

I think most people would consider a mod to be development work that
originated with the SDK, ouside of the Valve realm. Now that Valve owns
it and offers it, it becomes a gameplay variation.

I wouldn't think CS Source should be referred to as HL2 multiplayer, if
there is going to be an HL2 DM... seems more logical that the
multiplayer gampeplay of the SP game, should be referred as that

w/e... semantics.

--- spartibus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's not really a mod, it is HL2's multiplayer. You buy HL2 you
 automatically get CS:Source for free. It will ship with HL2.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Bowling
 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 2:05 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

 It is and was verified at E3 that Counter-Strike 2 will be called
 Counter-Strike:Source.  This will be the HL2 Counter-Strike Mod.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Skirecs
 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

 Will there be a counter-strike mod for hte new HL2?

 - Original Message -
 From: Ted Gribble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 3:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2


  Im pretty sure that in that video he said something like We havent
  decided what to call it but it WONT be Counter-Strike 2
  maybe I will watch the video again but I think thats what he said.
  -booya
 
 
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  No rumour about it. Gabe explicitly said in the E3:2k4 video that
 HL2
  multiplayer WOULD be CS Source.
  
  --- Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  All rumor - nothing official.
  
  - Original Message -
  From: StealthMode
  Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 7:08 AM
  
  The official multiplayer of half life 2 is
 counter-strike:source.
  I read that somewhere. Can't remember.
  
  -StealthMode
  
  
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RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-16 Thread Rick Comcast
I thought DOD was also slated for multiplayer in HL2?

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Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 10:15 PM
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Subject: RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

I didn't think there was going to be a HL2 DM, as I read somewhere
(aren't I lucky to forget? lol) that there wasn't going to be any kind
of HL2 multiplayer other than CS: Source. If there is, then I suppose it
is just a mod, but I figured since it's the one and only, and it (was)
going to be HL2's only multiplayer, that I didn't consider it a mod. Oh
well, doesn't really matter at all anyways.

-Original Message-
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 6:59 PM
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Subject: RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

Yeah, I think it needs to be thought of now along the lines of being a
Gameplay variation now more than a mod... like how HLDM, DMC, Ricochet
(lol) are different types of gameplay... or like how Onslaught,
Assault, CTF, DM are gameplay types for UT2k4.

I think most people would consider a mod to be development work that
originated with the SDK, ouside of the Valve realm. Now that Valve owns
it and offers it, it becomes a gameplay variation.

I wouldn't think CS Source should be referred to as HL2 multiplayer, if
there is going to be an HL2 DM... seems more logical that the
multiplayer gampeplay of the SP game, should be referred as that

w/e... semantics.

--- spartibus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's not really a mod, it is HL2's multiplayer. You buy HL2 you
 automatically get CS:Source for free. It will ship with HL2.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Bowling
 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 2:05 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

 It is and was verified at E3 that Counter-Strike 2 will be called
 Counter-Strike:Source.  This will be the HL2 Counter-Strike Mod.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Skirecs
 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:34 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

 Will there be a counter-strike mod for hte new HL2?

 - Original Message -
 From: Ted Gribble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 3:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2


  Im pretty sure that in that video he said something like We havent
  decided what to call it but it WONT be Counter-Strike 2
  maybe I will watch the video again but I think thats what he said.
  -booya
 
 
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  No rumour about it. Gabe explicitly said in the E3:2k4 video that
 HL2
  multiplayer WOULD be CS Source.
  
  --- Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  All rumor - nothing official.
  
  - Original Message -
  From: StealthMode
  Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 7:08 AM
  
  The official multiplayer of half life 2 is
 counter-strike:source.
  I read that somewhere. Can't remember.
  
  -StealthMode
  
  
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RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-16 Thread spartibus
I know there's a lot of stuff getting Source treatment, but they're
not all going to be free are they? Anyone know any details?

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Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 7:31 PM
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Subject: RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

I thought DOD was also slated for multiplayer in HL2?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 10:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

I didn't think there was going to be a HL2 DM, as I read somewhere
(aren't I lucky to forget? lol) that there wasn't going to be any kind
of HL2 multiplayer other than CS: Source. If there is, then I suppose it
is just a mod, but I figured since it's the one and only, and it (was)
going to be HL2's only multiplayer, that I didn't consider it a mod. Oh
well, doesn't really matter at all anyways.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 6:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

Yeah, I think it needs to be thought of now along the lines of being a
Gameplay variation now more than a mod... like how HLDM, DMC, Ricochet
(lol) are different types of gameplay... or like how Onslaught,
Assault, CTF, DM are gameplay types for UT2k4.

I think most people would consider a mod to be development work that
originated with the SDK, ouside of the Valve realm. Now that Valve owns
it and offers it, it becomes a gameplay variation.

I wouldn't think CS Source should be referred to as HL2 multiplayer, if
there is going to be an HL2 DM... seems more logical that the
multiplayer gampeplay of the SP game, should be referred as that

w/e... semantics.

--- spartibus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's not really a mod, it is HL2's multiplayer. You buy HL2 you
 automatically get CS:Source for free. It will ship with HL2.

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 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 2:05 PM
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 It is and was verified at E3 that Counter-Strike 2 will be called
 Counter-Strike:Source.  This will be the HL2 Counter-Strike Mod.

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 Will there be a counter-strike mod for hte new HL2?

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 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 3:53 PM
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  Im pretty sure that in that video he said something like We havent
  decided what to call it but it WONT be Counter-Strike 2
  maybe I will watch the video again but I think thats what he said.
  -booya
 
 
 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  No rumour about it. Gabe explicitly said in the E3:2k4 video that
 HL2
  multiplayer WOULD be CS Source.
  
  --- Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  All rumor - nothing official.
  
  - Original Message -
  From: StealthMode
  Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 7:08 AM
  
  The official multiplayer of half life 2 is
 counter-strike:source.
  I read that somewhere. Can't remember.
  
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Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-16 Thread Ryan Lewis
HL2 originally stated there will be 3 different types of HL2 released. A
normal version, which we are all used to, a Limited Edition version,
probably with a steel case, some figurine, and other general fanboy goodies,
and a cut-back single-player only version, which would contain no
multiplayer component.

By this original statement, I'm hoping that all gameplay variations are
chucked in with the normal version, but I did read somewhere that CS may
cost extra.

I'm just hoping the bigwigs at Valve read this and say to themselves
Bollocks, we did originally say that, didnt we? Damn, have to not charge
for CS:S now.

Either way, Valve are the winners, they're sitting on a huge cashcow in the
form of HL2 and CS:S.

Regards,

Ryan Lewis
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Subject: RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2


 I know there's a lot of stuff getting Source treatment, but they're
 not all going to be free are they? Anyone know any details?

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 I thought DOD was also slated for multiplayer in HL2?

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 I didn't think there was going to be a HL2 DM, as I read somewhere
 (aren't I lucky to forget? lol) that there wasn't going to be any kind
 of HL2 multiplayer other than CS: Source. If there is, then I suppose it
 is just a mod, but I figured since it's the one and only, and it (was)
 going to be HL2's only multiplayer, that I didn't consider it a mod. Oh
 well, doesn't really matter at all anyways.

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 Yeah, I think it needs to be thought of now along the lines of being a
 Gameplay variation now more than a mod... like how HLDM, DMC, Ricochet
 (lol) are different types of gameplay... or like how Onslaught,
 Assault, CTF, DM are gameplay types for UT2k4.

 I think most people would consider a mod to be development work that
 originated with the SDK, ouside of the Valve realm. Now that Valve owns
 it and offers it, it becomes a gameplay variation.

 I wouldn't think CS Source should be referred to as HL2 multiplayer, if
 there is going to be an HL2 DM... seems more logical that the
 multiplayer gampeplay of the SP game, should be referred as that

 w/e... semantics.

 --- spartibus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It's not really a mod, it is HL2's multiplayer. You buy HL2 you
  automatically get CS:Source for free. It will ship with HL2.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Bowling
  Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 2:05 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2
 
  It is and was verified at E3 that Counter-Strike 2 will be called
  Counter-Strike:Source.  This will be the HL2 Counter-Strike Mod.
 
  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:34 PM
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  Will there be a counter-strike mod for hte new HL2?
 
  - Original Message -
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 3:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2
 
 
   Im pretty sure that in that video he said something like We havent
   decided what to call it but it WONT be Counter-Strike 2
   maybe I will watch the video again but I think thats what he said.
   -booya
  
  
  
  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   No rumour about it. Gabe explicitly said in the E3:2k4 video that
  HL2
   multiplayer WOULD be CS Source.
   
   --- Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
   All rumor - nothing official.
   
   - Original Message -
   From: StealthMode
   Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 7:08 AM
   
   The official multiplayer of half life 2 is
  counter-strike:source.
   I read that somewhere. Can't remember.
   
   -StealthMode
   
   
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RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-16 Thread James Bowling
I was meaning that as a way for someone to understand it.  But, yes, you are
correct about it being the actual Halflife multiplayer.

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It's not really a mod, it is HL2's multiplayer. You buy HL2 you
automatically get CS:Source for free. It will ship with HL2.

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It is and was verified at E3 that Counter-Strike 2 will be called
Counter-Strike:Source.  This will be the HL2 Counter-Strike Mod.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 1:34 PM
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Will there be a counter-strike mod for hte new HL2?

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2


 Im pretty sure that in that video he said something like We havent
 decided what to call it but it WONT be Counter-Strike 2
 maybe I will watch the video again but I think thats what he said.
 -booya




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 No rumour about it. Gabe explicitly said in the E3:2k4 video that HL2
 multiplayer WOULD be CS Source.
 
 --- Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 All rumor - nothing official.
 
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 From: StealthMode
 Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 7:08 AM
 
 The official multiplayer of half life 2 is counter-strike:source.
 I read that somewhere. Can't remember.
 
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Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-15 Thread Steven Hartland
Impossible to tell without running the server code and looking
at its CPU and bandwidth usage.

Steve / K
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 Just curious if any of the GISP admins on the list have put any thought
 into the pricing schemes for HL2 game server rentals once it is
 released. I am trying to gauge if, due to anticipated higher HW
 requirements for the Dedi Server, if rates will rise dramtically or
 not, and if it will be cheaper to upgrade my HW and continue to Colo,
 or if it will be cheaper to rent a pub (in both cases subsidized by my
 pub community). Either way, I anticipate a dramatic increase in the pub
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Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-15 Thread Shane Robinett
Biggest expectant cost increase will be bandwidth I suspect.


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 Just curious if any of the GISP admins on the list have put any thought
 into the pricing schemes for HL2 game server rentals once it is
 released. I am trying to gauge if, due to anticipated higher HW
 requirements for the Dedi Server, if rates will rise dramtically or
 not, and if it will be cheaper to upgrade my HW and continue to Colo,
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Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, if an HL2DS is not released before the client, then, logically, day
one there really won't be a standard rate it sounds like. It will be
intersting to see what kind of rates come out immediately, how widely
varying they will be, and how long it takes them to taper back into to
be comparable. Wow, this will be like watching a mini economy or a
niche market evolve in real-time. How exciting.

--- Steven Hartland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Impossible to tell without running the server code and looking
 at its CPU and bandwidth usage.

 Steve / K
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  Just curious if any of the GISP admins on the list have put any
 thought
  into the pricing schemes for HL2 game server rentals once it is
  released. I am trying to gauge if, due to anticipated higher HW
  requirements for the Dedi Server, if rates will rise dramtically or
  not, and if it will be cheaper to upgrade my HW and continue to
 Colo,
  or if it will be cheaper to rent a pub (in both cases subsidized by
 my
  pub community). Either way, I anticipate a dramatic increase in the
 pub
  community once it is released.



 
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Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-15 Thread Steven Hartland
I know when we host a new server we use publics for a ~ week
before judging the cost and from our point bandwidth is not
usually the primary concern its CPU load.
Also unless HL2 comes with coop there wont be a server
market until a multiplayer mod gets released.

Steve / K
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 So, if an HL2DS is not released before the client, then, logically, day
 one there really won't be a standard rate it sounds like. It will be
 intersting to see what kind of rates come out immediately, how widely
 varying they will be, and how long it takes them to taper back into to
 be comparable. Wow, this will be like watching a mini economy or a
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RE: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-15 Thread spartibus
HL2 online is known as Counter-Strike: Source

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I know when we host a new server we use publics for a ~ week
before judging the cost and from our point bandwidth is not
usually the primary concern its CPU load.
Also unless HL2 comes with coop there wont be a server
market until a multiplayer mod gets released.

Steve / K
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 So, if an HL2DS is not released before the client, then, logically,
day
 one there really won't be a standard rate it sounds like. It will be
 intersting to see what kind of rates come out immediately, how widely
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Re: [hlds] [OT] GISP's: Rental rates for HL2

2004-06-15 Thread Steven Hartland
Oh great just what we need :P

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 HL2 online is known as Counter-Strike: Source




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