Re: [hlds] A question of ethics
i personally just don't care about either and wish the spam fest just to end and the mailing list go back to what it was intended for Donnie Newlove wrote: How many of you who look down on msleepers truly horrible and unforgivable acts against the community that threaten to ruin the very core of everything we hold dear have ever used a fake client plugin? What do you think players find more annoying, not being able to join one out of a hundred communities for doing something that the community are against or not being able to find a place to play because of hundreds of empty servers trying to lure players in there so that they can... well, I don’t know exactly. Leave and try to find a new one obviously. At least I know which of these two honeypots I think is worse. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] A question of ethics
That would be a question of priorities, not ethics. Personally I don't care either because it’s so easy to ignore threads you are not interested in, posting in them will not make them go away. On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:51 AM, SakeFox sake...@kingdomsend.com wrote: i personally just don't care about either and wish the spam fest just to end and the mailing list go back to what it was intended for Donnie Newlove wrote: How many of you who look down on msleepers truly horrible and unforgivable acts against the community that threaten to ruin the very core of everything we hold dear have ever used a fake client plugin? What do you think players find more annoying, not being able to join one out of a hundred communities for doing something that the community are against or not being able to find a place to play because of hundreds of empty servers trying to lure players in there so that they can... well, I don’t know exactly. Leave and try to find a new one obviously. At least I know which of these two honeypots I think is worse. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] A question of ethics
I think the big point here is that Achievements in a PC game are up there with free public wifi. A great idea in theory, but an absolute disaster in practice. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of SakeFox Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] A question of ethics i personally just don't care about either and wish the spam fest just to end and the mailing list go back to what it was intended for Donnie Newlove wrote: How many of you who look down on msleepers truly horrible and unforgivable acts against the community that threaten to ruin the very core of everything we hold dear have ever used a fake client plugin? What do you think players find more annoying, not being able to join one out of a hundred communities for doing something that the community are against or not being able to find a place to play because of hundreds of empty servers trying to lure players in there so that they can... well, I don't know exactly. Leave and try to find a new one obviously. At least I know which of these two honeypots I think is worse. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] A question of ethics
The funny thing is, valve hasent fixed fake clients, they really need too + i believe acheivement farming isnt as bad because it does require people to get achievements, thus meaning people working as a team. If there were no farming wouldnt that mean someone decided to put an I inside TEAM? On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.comwrote: That would be a question of priorities, not ethics. Personally I don't care either because it’s so easy to ignore threads you are not interested in, posting in them will not make them go away. On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:51 AM, SakeFox sake...@kingdomsend.com wrote: i personally just don't care about either and wish the spam fest just to end and the mailing list go back to what it was intended for Donnie Newlove wrote: How many of you who look down on msleepers truly horrible and unforgivable acts against the community that threaten to ruin the very core of everything we hold dear have ever used a fake client plugin? What do you think players find more annoying, not being able to join one out of a hundred communities for doing something that the community are against or not being able to find a place to play because of hundreds of empty servers trying to lure players in there so that they can... well, I don’t know exactly. Leave and try to find a new one obviously. At least I know which of these two honeypots I think is worse. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] A question of ethics
I have used the unlocker to get the scout achievements (all others were earned by grinding in regular maps). I have never used a fake clients plugin, nor will I ever. The ONLY thing that gets you banned from any of my servers is exploiting/hacking. I don't care if you're spamming racial epithets on the mic, using porn sprays, or killing your teammates. That's what muting, disabling sprays, and kicking are for. There is NOTHING else you can do to get yourself banned from my servers. Everyone has a good time, and when there is a problem player, people simply ignore/kick them. Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:45:55 +0100 From: donnie.newl...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds] A question of ethics How many of you who look down on msleepers truly horrible and unforgivable acts against the community that threaten to ruin the very core of everything we hold dear have ever used a fake client plugin? What do you think players find more annoying, not being able to join one out of a hundred communities for doing something that the community are against or not being able to find a place to play because of hundreds of empty servers trying to lure players in there so that they can... well, I don’t know exactly. Leave and try to find a new one obviously. At least I know which of these two honeypots I think is worse. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Access_022009 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] A question of ethics
I gotta agree with Karl here. If these achievements weren't built into the game, we wouldn't be having all this drama -mauirixxx -Sent from his can't we all just get along crIphone -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Karl Weckstrom Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:00 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] A question of ethics I think the big point here is that Achievements in a PC game are up there with free public wifi. A great idea in theory, but an absolute disaster in practice. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of SakeFox Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] A question of ethics i personally just don't care about either and wish the spam fest just to end and the mailing list go back to what it was intended for Donnie Newlove wrote: How many of you who look down on msleepers truly horrible and unforgivable acts against the community that threaten to ruin the very core of everything we hold dear have ever used a fake client plugin? What do you think players find more annoying, not being able to join one out of a hundred communities for doing something that the community are against or not being able to find a place to play because of hundreds of empty servers trying to lure players in there so that they can... well, I don't know exactly. Leave and try to find a new one obviously. At least I know which of these two honeypots I think is worse. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] A question of ethics
No fake clients ever! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
