Re: [hlds] Ad Company
I hate advertising in games. If I'm hosting my own servers, I will pay for it. If I do not have the money, I can't rent dedicated servers. Easy thing. To make money with the work from others (plugindevelopers/valve) is the wrong way. Programm your own shit server and then you are able to earn money. Big communitys has much members, which are able to pay together. This point doesn't count, that big communnitys dies, when they aren't able to advertising. Am 08.04.2013 02:29 schrieb Charlie sprayp...@gmail.com: Also, no advertising agency I know of comes close to $10CPM ads, unless they have a 0% fillrate. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Gavin Langdon puttabu...@gmail.comwrote: Certainly, which I think is the main reason AlliedModders put that in there. I just wanted to inform Harsh that it's actually legally iffy for this person to do what they're doing. sent from mobile On Apr 7, 2013 5:19 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies, my reading comprehension was not working. Please ignore my previous message. I would be leery of anyone sending out a sourcemod plugin without giving the source code out, just because of what it can do. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: I think they're likely more worried about a malicious plugin than a license. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Gavin Langdon puttabu...@gmail.comwrote: It's actually against the license to distribute smx files without also distributing source code. sent from mobile On Apr 7, 2013 4:21 PM, Harsh Baid harshbai...@gmail.com wrote: Just finished talking with him. Apparently he privately contacts communities and doesn't want to become another pinion according to him. Also he won't let anyone see the source code to his .smx plugin and with that i flat out denied and said no, i don't want to participate. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Ad Company
Ugh... Valve's business is earning money from the work of others (Steam publishing games). Also TF2 is a free to play game that requires a big number of servers to keep the game easily accessible for everyone all over the world. There's practically no reason to host MvM servers because you can't exactly build a community around that mode if you run it stock. It's all just random players sent by matchmaking yet the resource usage can be equal to a server full of real people. If the Steam forums are to be believed then there's no ad-free servers in Australia. Not everyone is willing to do charity work for random people on the internet so they don't have to wait hours in the matchmaking line. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Andre Müller gbs.dead...@gmail.com wrote: I hate advertising in games. If I'm hosting my own servers, I will pay for it. If I do not have the money, I can't rent dedicated servers. Easy thing. To make money with the work from others (plugindevelopers/valve) is the wrong way. Programm your own shit server and then you are able to earn money. Big communitys has much members, which are able to pay together. This point doesn't count, that big communnitys dies, when they aren't able to advertising. Am 08.04.2013 02:29 schrieb Charlie sprayp...@gmail.com: Also, no advertising agency I know of comes close to $10CPM ads, unless they have a 0% fillrate. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Gavin Langdon puttabu...@gmail.comwrote: Certainly, which I think is the main reason AlliedModders put that in there. I just wanted to inform Harsh that it's actually legally iffy for this person to do what they're doing. sent from mobile On Apr 7, 2013 5:19 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies, my reading comprehension was not working. Please ignore my previous message. I would be leery of anyone sending out a sourcemod plugin without giving the source code out, just because of what it can do. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: I think they're likely more worried about a malicious plugin than a license. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Gavin Langdon puttabu...@gmail.comwrote: It's actually against the license to distribute smx files without also distributing source code. sent from mobile On Apr 7, 2013 4:21 PM, Harsh Baid harshbai...@gmail.com wrote: Just finished talking with him. Apparently he privately contacts communities and doesn't want to become another pinion according to him. Also he won't let anyone see the source code to his .smx plugin and with that i flat out denied and said no, i don't want to participate. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Ad Company
I haven't received messages of this type, but that could be because ElitePowered are based in the USA where my servers are in the UK. I'd be interested in talking to him myself, just a matter of finding how to. The website seems non-functional, with a MySQL error occurring when trying to login or register, so either the service is fake or it's just not quite ready yet. On 7 April 2013 20:57, Harsh Baid harshbai...@gmail.com wrote: Now i hate to bring this up again, but i got contacted today a few minutes ago at the time of writing and i just want to see if any1 else got contacted. A guy by the name of Satish contacted me on steam telling me about this ad company and how he wants to put ads on my server? Seems a bit strange but i go along. He gives me a link to this page. http://elitepowered.org/ads/ Just by looking at the page, i can tell it is in beta or still being worked on because none of the links actually lead to anything. Now he apparently says to contact Mamo the owner of Elite Powered. Elite Mamo added me and we are discussing things, but i really am confused as to what is it. What is exactly going on and has anyway else been contacted like this? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Ad Company
Just finished talking with him. Apparently he privately contacts communities and doesn't want to become another pinion according to him. Also he won't let anyone see the source code to his .smx plugin and with that i flat out denied and said no, i don't want to participate. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Ad Company
Do you know any alternatives to pinion, which is dedicated ad networks for games/well integrated into source-games? Otherwise, this could be a good time to make a alternative with non-intrusive ads but same work methods as pinion. 2013/4/7 Harsh Baid harshbai...@gmail.com Just finished talking with him. Apparently he privately contacts communities and doesn't want to become another pinion according to him. Also he won't let anyone see the source code to his .smx plugin and with that i flat out denied and said no, i don't want to participate. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Ad Company
I think you are looking for this one because its audio advertising. I also didn't like pinion because it used to pay good before but now I hardly even pay for 1 server with it and players dont like the forced ads either. If you disable ad forcing they will stay paying you peanuts, I will see if I will give it a try after looking at the smx file of course. On 7 April 2013 21:31, Herover leon.l.a.niel...@gmail.com wrote: Do you know any alternatives to pinion, which is dedicated ad networks for games/well integrated into source-games? Otherwise, this could be a good time to make a alternative with non-intrusive ads but same work methods as pinion. 2013/4/7 Harsh Baid harshbai...@gmail.com Just finished talking with him. Apparently he privately contacts communities and doesn't want to become another pinion according to him. Also he won't let anyone see the source code to his .smx plugin and with that i flat out denied and said no, i don't want to participate. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Ad Company
It's actually against the license to distribute smx files without also distributing source code. sent from mobile On Apr 7, 2013 4:21 PM, Harsh Baid harshbai...@gmail.com wrote: Just finished talking with him. Apparently he privately contacts communities and doesn't want to become another pinion according to him. Also he won't let anyone see the source code to his .smx plugin and with that i flat out denied and said no, i don't want to participate. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Ad Company
I think they're likely more worried about a malicious plugin than a license. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Gavin Langdon puttabu...@gmail.com wrote: It's actually against the license to distribute smx files without also distributing source code. sent from mobile On Apr 7, 2013 4:21 PM, Harsh Baid harshbai...@gmail.com wrote: Just finished talking with him. Apparently he privately contacts communities and doesn't want to become another pinion according to him. Also he won't let anyone see the source code to his .smx plugin and with that i flat out denied and said no, i don't want to participate. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Ad Company
My apologies, my reading comprehension was not working. Please ignore my previous message. I would be leery of anyone sending out a sourcemod plugin without giving the source code out, just because of what it can do. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: I think they're likely more worried about a malicious plugin than a license. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Gavin Langdon puttabu...@gmail.comwrote: It's actually against the license to distribute smx files without also distributing source code. sent from mobile On Apr 7, 2013 4:21 PM, Harsh Baid harshbai...@gmail.com wrote: Just finished talking with him. Apparently he privately contacts communities and doesn't want to become another pinion according to him. Also he won't let anyone see the source code to his .smx plugin and with that i flat out denied and said no, i don't want to participate. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Ad Company
ive been contacted by them myself, he was telling me that the plugin needs to be on 'custom' type TF2 servers over vanilla due to the latest update blocking the motd in vanilla type servers or something other... it sounds too good to be true. offered $7 CPM, said that he gets paid $10 CPM and he keeps $3 and pays me $7. i declined for multiple reasons, the main being he wouldn't send me the source of this plugin so i have no idea what this plugin is capable of and i dont want to get blacklisted in any way by valve. another reason was that he's obviously found a loophole of some sort making all that money without anyone seeing the ads, they only hear them and id hate to see the repercussions when this ad company finds out. scott biszmaier -Original Message- From: Harsh Baid harshbai...@gmail.com To: hlds hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sun, Apr 7, 2013 12:58 pm Subject: [hlds] Ad Company Now i hate to bring this up again, but i got contacted today a few minutes ago at the time of writing and i just want to see if any1 else got contacted. A guy by the name of Satish contacted me on steam telling me about this ad company and how he wants to put ads on my server? Seems a bit strange but i go along. He gives me a link to this page. http://elitepowered.org/ads/ Just by looking at the page, i can tell it is in beta or still being worked on because none of the links actually lead to anything. Now he apparently says to contact Mamo the owner of Elite Powered. Elite Mamo added me and we are discussing things, but i really am confused as to what is it. What is exactly going on and has anyway else been contacted like this? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Ad Company
Certainly, which I think is the main reason AlliedModders put that in there. I just wanted to inform Harsh that it's actually legally iffy for this person to do what they're doing. sent from mobile On Apr 7, 2013 5:19 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies, my reading comprehension was not working. Please ignore my previous message. I would be leery of anyone sending out a sourcemod plugin without giving the source code out, just because of what it can do. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: I think they're likely more worried about a malicious plugin than a license. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Gavin Langdon puttabu...@gmail.comwrote: It's actually against the license to distribute smx files without also distributing source code. sent from mobile On Apr 7, 2013 4:21 PM, Harsh Baid harshbai...@gmail.com wrote: Just finished talking with him. Apparently he privately contacts communities and doesn't want to become another pinion according to him. Also he won't let anyone see the source code to his .smx plugin and with that i flat out denied and said no, i don't want to participate. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Ad Company
Also, no advertising agency I know of comes close to $10CPM ads, unless they have a 0% fillrate. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Gavin Langdon puttabu...@gmail.com wrote: Certainly, which I think is the main reason AlliedModders put that in there. I just wanted to inform Harsh that it's actually legally iffy for this person to do what they're doing. sent from mobile On Apr 7, 2013 5:19 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: My apologies, my reading comprehension was not working. Please ignore my previous message. I would be leery of anyone sending out a sourcemod plugin without giving the source code out, just because of what it can do. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: I think they're likely more worried about a malicious plugin than a license. On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Gavin Langdon puttabu...@gmail.comwrote: It's actually against the license to distribute smx files without also distributing source code. sent from mobile On Apr 7, 2013 4:21 PM, Harsh Baid harshbai...@gmail.com wrote: Just finished talking with him. Apparently he privately contacts communities and doesn't want to become another pinion according to him. Also he won't let anyone see the source code to his .smx plugin and with that i flat out denied and said no, i don't want to participate. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
