Re: [hlds] Steam CMD
Natural Selection 2 use Steam CMD too I think since the last build. Le 6 juil. 2012 04:02, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com a écrit : Different games get updates at the same time. Especially games with shared engines. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Ryan Stecker voidedwea...@gmail.comwrote: Having to update more than one server at a time with an update tool is awful practice. Please do all other server operators a favor and use rsync or similar. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Bobby bobby3...@gmail.com wrote: How is this progress? Seems like it going back 5 yrs. HLDS update and done. Now we have to sign in and hope you signed out of the game. Can’t update more than one server at a time. It’s the worst idea ever!! -bobby ** ** *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Jared *Sent:* Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:55 PM *To:* hlds@list.valvesoftware.com *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Steam CMD ** ** CS:GO, Killing Floor, and Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad Jared Creasy Community Relations Tripwire Interactive On 7/5/2012 7:48 PM, Nomaan Ahmad wrote: CS:GO Beta On 6 July 2012 00:32, RSS List User l...@redspeedservers.com wrote:*** * Hello all, I don't really keep up to date on steamcmd, but what games are currently using steamcmd? Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ** ** ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Steam CMD
I believe all games will move to it soon. It uses the HTTP content delivery
method if I recall correctly.
On Friday, July 6, 2012, Vader_666 wrote:
Natural Selection 2 use Steam CMD too I think since the last build.
Le 6 juil. 2012 04:02, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com javascript:_e({},
'cvml', '1nsane...@gmail.com'); a écrit :
Different games get updates at the same time. Especially games with shared
engines.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Ryan Stecker voidedwea...@gmail.comwrote:
Having to update more than one server at a time with an update tool is
awful practice. Please do all other server operators a favor and use rsync
or similar.
On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Bobby bobby3...@gmail.com wrote:
How is this progress? Seems like it going back 5 yrs. HLDS update and
done. Now we have to sign in and hope you signed out of the game. Can’t
update more than one server at a time. It’s the worst idea ever!!
-bobby
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*Subject:* Re: [hlds] Steam CMD
** **
CS:GO, Killing Floor, and Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Jared Creasy
Community Relations
Tripwire Interactive
On 7/5/2012 7:48 PM, Nomaan Ahmad wrote:
CS:GO Beta
On 6 July 2012 00:32, RSS List User l...@redspeedservers.com wrote:
Hello all,
I don't really keep up to date on steamcmd, but what games are currently
using steamcmd?
Thanks!
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Re: [hlds] Steam CMD
I'm not liking it either. I can't update my servers when playing games at Steam. It would be nice if it didn't sign off my Steam. 2012/7/6 Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com I believe all games will move to it soon. It uses the HTTP content delivery method if I recall correctly. On Friday, July 6, 2012, Vader_666 wrote: Natural Selection 2 use Steam CMD too I think since the last build. Le 6 juil. 2012 04:02, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com a écrit : Different games get updates at the same time. Especially games with shared engines. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Ryan Stecker voidedwea...@gmail.comwrote: Having to update more than one server at a time with an update tool is awful practice. Please do all other server operators a favor and use rsync or similar. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Bobby bobby3...@gmail.com wrote: How is this progress? Seems like it going back 5 yrs. HLDS update and done. Now we have to sign in and hope you signed out of the game. Can’t update more than one server at a time. It’s the worst idea ever!! -bobby ** ** *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Jared *Sent:* Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:55 PM *To:* hlds@list.valvesoftware.com *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Steam CMD ** ** CS:GO, Killing Floor, and Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad Jared Creasy Community Relations Tripwire Interactive On 7/5/2012 7:48 PM, Nomaan Ahmad wrote: CS:GO Beta On 6 July 2012 00:32, RSS List User l...@redspeedservers.com wrote: Hello all, I don't really keep up to date on steamcmd, but what games are currently using steamcmd? Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ** ** ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/chttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Kind regards, *Saul Rennison* ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Steam CMD
It wouldnt be so bad if for example, you could use it with any account. For CSGO, its beta, so your account has to have access to it? Or am I wrong, in which case, we might aswell all create new steam accounts for server purposes. Joe On 6 July 2012 13:02, Victor Voorhuis victor.silverd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not liking it either. I can't update my servers when playing games at Steam. It would be nice if it didn't sign off my Steam. 2012/7/6 Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com I believe all games will move to it soon. It uses the HTTP content delivery method if I recall correctly. On Friday, July 6, 2012, Vader_666 wrote: Natural Selection 2 use Steam CMD too I think since the last build. Le 6 juil. 2012 04:02, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com a écrit : Different games get updates at the same time. Especially games with shared engines. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Ryan Stecker voidedwea...@gmail.comwrote: Having to update more than one server at a time with an update tool is awful practice. Please do all other server operators a favor and use rsync or similar. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Bobby bobby3...@gmail.com wrote: How is this progress? Seems like it going back 5 yrs. HLDS update and done. Now we have to sign in and hope you signed out of the game. Can’t update more than one server at a time. It’s the worst idea ever!! -bobby ** ** *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Jared *Sent:* Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:55 PM *To:* hlds@list.valvesoftware.com *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Steam CMD ** ** CS:GO, Killing Floor, and Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad Jared Creasy Community Relations Tripwire Interactive On 7/5/2012 7:48 PM, Nomaan Ahmad wrote: CS:GO Beta On 6 July 2012 00:32, RSS List User l...@redspeedservers.com wrote:*** * Hello all, I don't really keep up to date on steamcmd, but what games are currently using steamcmd? Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ** ** ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/chttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Kind regards, *Saul Rennison* ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Steam CMD
New accounts that have to own all those games... On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Joe Powell j...@joepowell.co.uk wrote: It wouldnt be so bad if for example, you could use it with any account. For CSGO, its beta, so your account has to have access to it? Or am I wrong, in which case, we might aswell all create new steam accounts for server purposes. Joe On 6 July 2012 13:02, Victor Voorhuis victor.silverd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not liking it either. I can't update my servers when playing games at Steam. It would be nice if it didn't sign off my Steam. 2012/7/6 Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com I believe all games will move to it soon. It uses the HTTP content delivery method if I recall correctly. On Friday, July 6, 2012, Vader_666 wrote: Natural Selection 2 use Steam CMD too I think since the last build. Le 6 juil. 2012 04:02, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com a écrit : Different games get updates at the same time. Especially games with shared engines. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Ryan Stecker voidedwea...@gmail.comwrote: Having to update more than one server at a time with an update tool is awful practice. Please do all other server operators a favor and use rsync or similar. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Bobby bobby3...@gmail.com wrote: How is this progress? Seems like it going back 5 yrs. HLDS update and done. Now we have to sign in and hope you signed out of the game. Can’t update more than one server at a time. It’s the worst idea ever!! -bobby ** ** *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Jared *Sent:* Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:55 PM *To:* hlds@list.valvesoftware.com *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Steam CMD ** ** CS:GO, Killing Floor, and Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad Jared Creasy Community Relations Tripwire Interactive On 7/5/2012 7:48 PM, Nomaan Ahmad wrote: CS:GO Beta On 6 July 2012 00:32, RSS List User l...@redspeedservers.com wrote:** ** Hello all, I don't really keep up to date on steamcmd, but what games are currently using steamcmd? Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ** ** ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/chttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Kind regards, *Saul Rennison* ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Steam CMD
Yeah that's my main gripe with it. If you allow all accounts into the system though you might aswell drop the requirement to login alltogether. If we need to own the games to host servers at least allow simultanous login to both SteamCMD and the desktop client. I would like to hear why this is done anyway, I can somehow get behind it for CS:GO as it's a closed beta right now (although restricting server file access is still weird) but why introduce this to games already released. It's just an inconvenience. This is not that big of an issue for F2P but buying extra $30+ games just to have a separate server account is not something I would want to do. I could afford it but then again - it is not *that* big of an inconvenience now, is it? On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:59 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote: New accounts that have to own all those games... On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Joe Powell j...@joepowell.co.uk wrote: It wouldnt be so bad if for example, you could use it with any account. For CSGO, its beta, so your account has to have access to it? Or am I wrong, in which case, we might aswell all create new steam accounts for server purposes. Joe On 6 July 2012 13:02, Victor Voorhuis victor.silverd...@gmail.comwrote: I'm not liking it either. I can't update my servers when playing games at Steam. It would be nice if it didn't sign off my Steam. 2012/7/6 Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com I believe all games will move to it soon. It uses the HTTP content delivery method if I recall correctly. On Friday, July 6, 2012, Vader_666 wrote: Natural Selection 2 use Steam CMD too I think since the last build. Le 6 juil. 2012 04:02, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com a écrit : Different games get updates at the same time. Especially games with shared engines. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Ryan Stecker voidedwea...@gmail.comwrote: Having to update more than one server at a time with an update tool is awful practice. Please do all other server operators a favor and use rsync or similar. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Bobby bobby3...@gmail.com wrote: How is this progress? Seems like it going back 5 yrs. HLDS update and done. Now we have to sign in and hope you signed out of the game. Can’t update more than one server at a time. It’s the worst idea ever!! -bobby ** ** *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Jared *Sent:* Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:55 PM *To:* hlds@list.valvesoftware.com *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Steam CMD ** ** CS:GO, Killing Floor, and Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad Jared Creasy Community Relations Tripwire Interactive On 7/5/2012 7:48 PM, Nomaan Ahmad wrote: CS:GO Beta On 6 July 2012 00:32, RSS List User l...@redspeedservers.com wrote:* *** Hello all, I don't really keep up to date on steamcmd, but what games are currently using steamcmd? Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ** ** ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/chttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds -- Kind regards, *Saul Rennison* ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Steam CMD
There is some mis-understanding of the new steamcmd update tool happening here, let me just clear things up: - steamcmd is used for updating of dedicated servers using the new Steam Pipe content system, newly released games on Steam use this system and older games are being switched over. - currently steamcmd requires a steam login to perform an update, we plan on adding a no-login mode in the future for free to download titles. - the login you use for steamcmd just needs rights to the game you are updating, so for the majority of dedicated server applications you CAN use a free account. So you could currently make an account per machine you wish to run the tool on. You do NOT need to buy the full game client to update if the dedicated server is free. - CS:GO is a special case because it is in closed beta, access to its dedicated server is limited to blessed accounts which is why you need a special login. If you are having problems running CS:GO servers and are in the beta email the team and ask for access to another account for your dedicated servers. With Steam Pipe you should see an improvement in download speeds and more robust response during high demand. It uses HTTP as the content delivery method, so you could setup a local HTTP proxy to cache all steamcmd requests, making updates from multiple machines stay on your local network. - Alfred From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Valentin G. Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 7:07 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Steam CMD Yeah that's my main gripe with it. If you allow all accounts into the system though you might aswell drop the requirement to login alltogether. If we need to own the games to host servers at least allow simultanous login to both SteamCMD and the desktop client. I would like to hear why this is done anyway, I can somehow get behind it for CS:GO as it's a closed beta right now (although restricting server file access is still weird) but why introduce this to games already released. It's just an inconvenience. This is not that big of an issue for F2P but buying extra $30+ games just to have a separate server account is not something I would want to do. I could afford it but then again - it is not *that* big of an inconvenience now, is it? On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:59 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.commailto:1nsane...@gmail.com wrote: New accounts that have to own all those games... On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Joe Powell j...@joepowell.co.ukmailto:j...@joepowell.co.uk wrote: It wouldnt be so bad if for example, you could use it with any account. For CSGO, its beta, so your account has to have access to it? Or am I wrong, in which case, we might aswell all create new steam accounts for server purposes. Joe On 6 July 2012 13:02, Victor Voorhuis victor.silverd...@gmail.commailto:victor.silverd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not liking it either. I can't update my servers when playing games at Steam. It would be nice if it didn't sign off my Steam. 2012/7/6 Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.commailto:saul.renni...@gmail.com I believe all games will move to it soon. It uses the HTTP content delivery method if I recall correctly. On Friday, July 6, 2012, Vader_666 wrote: Natural Selection 2 use Steam CMD too I think since the last build. Le 6 juil. 2012 04:02, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com a écrit : Different games get updates at the same time. Especially games with shared engines. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Ryan Stecker voidedwea...@gmail.com wrote: Having to update more than one server at a time with an update tool is awful practice. Please do all other server operators a favor and use rsync or similar. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Bobby bobby3...@gmail.com wrote: How is this progress? Seems like it going back 5 yrs. HLDS update and done. Now we have to sign in and hope you signed out of the game. Can't update more than one server at a time. It's the worst idea ever!! -bobby From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jared Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:55 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Steam CMD CS:GO, Killing Floor, and Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad Jared Creasy Community Relations Tripwire Interactive On 7/5/2012 7:48 PM, Nomaan Ahmad wrote: CS:GO Beta On 6 July 2012 00:32, RSS List User l...@redspeedservers.com wrote: Hello all, I don't really keep up to date on steamcmd, but what games are currently using steamcmd? Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com
Re: [hlds] Steam CMD
- currently steamcmd requires a steam login to perform an update, we plan on adding a no-login mode in the future for free to download titles. So even in the future, if its a PAY 19.99 game you would still need a log- in name? Thats murder for us that have 10 games on a box. We want the customers to DL the updates like we do/did with the hlds tool. Now we have to DL the patches and mass update everyone. How is that progress? -bobby From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 12:55 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list (hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com) Subject: Re: [hlds] Steam CMD There is some mis-understanding of the new steamcmd update tool happening here, let me just clear things up: - steamcmd is used for updating of dedicated servers using the new Steam Pipe content system, newly released games on Steam use this system and older games are being switched over. - currently steamcmd requires a steam login to perform an update, we plan on adding a no-login mode in the future for free to download titles. - the login you use for steamcmd just needs rights to the game you are updating, so for the majority of dedicated server applications you CAN use a free account. So you could currently make an account per machine you wish to run the tool on. You do NOT need to buy the full game client to update if the dedicated server is free. - CS:GO is a special case because it is in closed beta, access to its dedicated server is limited to blessed accounts which is why you need a special login. If you are having problems running CS:GO servers and are in the beta email the team and ask for access to another account for your dedicated servers. With Steam Pipe you should see an improvement in download speeds and more robust response during high demand. It uses HTTP as the content delivery method, so you could setup a local HTTP proxy to cache all steamcmd requests, making updates from multiple machines stay on your local network. - Alfred From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Valentin G. Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 7:07 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Steam CMD Yeah that's my main gripe with it. If you allow all accounts into the system though you might aswell drop the requirement to login alltogether. If we need to own the games to host servers at least allow simultanous login to both SteamCMD and the desktop client. I would like to hear why this is done anyway, I can somehow get behind it for CS:GO as it's a closed beta right now (although restricting server file access is still weird) but why introduce this to games already released. It's just an inconvenience. This is not that big of an issue for F2P but buying extra $30+ games just to have a separate server account is not something I would want to do. I could afford it but then again - it is not *that* big of an inconvenience now, is it? On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:59 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote: New accounts that have to own all those games... On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Joe Powell j...@joepowell.co.uk wrote: It wouldnt be so bad if for example, you could use it with any account. For CSGO, its beta, so your account has to have access to it? Or am I wrong, in which case, we might aswell all create new steam accounts for server purposes. Joe On 6 July 2012 13:02, Victor Voorhuis victor.silverd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not liking it either. I can't update my servers when playing games at Steam. It would be nice if it didn't sign off my Steam. 2012/7/6 Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com I believe all games will move to it soon. It uses the HTTP content delivery method if I recall correctly. On Friday, July 6, 2012, Vader_666 wrote: Natural Selection 2 use Steam CMD too I think since the last build. Le 6 juil. 2012 04:02, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com a écrit : Different games get updates at the same time. Especially games with shared engines. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Ryan Stecker voidedwea...@gmail.com wrote: Having to update more than one server at a time with an update tool is awful practice. Please do all other server operators a favor and use rsync or similar. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Bobby bobby3...@gmail.com wrote: How is this progress? Seems like it going back 5 yrs. HLDS update and done. Now we have to sign in and hope you signed out of the game. Cant update more than one server at a time. Its the worst idea ever!! -bobby From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jared Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:55 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Steam CMD CS:GO, Killing Floor, and Red Orchestra
Re: [hlds] Steam CMD
I think you missed one crucial part of Alfred's email: - the login you use for steamcmd just needs rights to the game you are updating, so for the majority of dedicated server applications you CAN use a free account. So you could currently make an account per machine you wish to run the tool on. You do NOT need to buy the full game client to update if the dedicated server is free. You do not need to purchase the games to have access to most of the dedicated server applications available on Steam. If you're not convinced, simply create a new Steam account and take a look at the Tools section of the Steam library to see for yourself. -- Heffebaycay On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Bobby bobby3...@gmail.com wrote: “- currently steamcmd requires a steam login to perform an update, we plan on adding a no-login mode in the future for free to download titles.” ** ** So even in the future, if it’s a PAY 19.99 game you would still need a log- in name? ** ** That’s murder for us that have 10 games on a box. We want the customers to DL the updates like we do/did with the hlds tool. Now we have to DL the patches and mass update everyone. How is that progress? ** ** -bobby ** ** *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Alfred Reynolds *Sent:* Friday, July 06, 2012 12:55 PM *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list (hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com) *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Steam CMD ** ** There is some mis-understanding of the new steamcmd update tool happening here, let me just clear things up: - steamcmd is used for updating of dedicated servers using the new Steam Pipe content system, newly released games on Steam use this system and older games are being switched over. - currently steamcmd requires a steam login to perform an update, we plan on adding a no-login mode in the future for free to download titles. - the login you use for steamcmd just needs rights to the game you are updating, so for the majority of dedicated server applications you CAN use a free account. So you could currently make an account per machine you wish to run the tool on. You do NOT need to buy the full game client to update if the dedicated server is free. - CS:GO is a special case because it is in closed beta, access to its dedicated server is limited to blessed accounts which is why you need a special login. If you are having problems running CS:GO servers and are in the beta email the team and ask for access to another account for your dedicated servers. With Steam Pipe you should see an improvement in download speeds and more robust response during high demand. It uses HTTP as the content delivery method, so you could setup a local HTTP proxy to cache all steamcmd requests, making updates from multiple machines stay on your local network. - Alfred *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Valentin G. *Sent:* Friday, July 06, 2012 7:07 AM *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Steam CMD Yeah that's my main gripe with it. If you allow all accounts into the system though you might aswell drop the requirement to login alltogether. If we need to own the games to host servers at least allow simultanous login to both SteamCMD and the desktop client. I would like to hear why this is done anyway, I can somehow get behind it for CS:GO as it's a closed beta right now (although restricting server file access is still weird) but why introduce this to games already released. It's just an inconvenience. This is not that big of an issue for F2P but buying extra $30+ games just to have a separate server account is not something I would want to do. I could afford it but then again - it is not *that* big of an inconvenience now, is it? On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:59 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote: New accounts that have to own all those games... On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Joe Powell j...@joepowell.co.uk wrote:*** * It wouldnt be so bad if for example, you could use it with any account.*** * For CSGO, its beta, so your account has to have access to it? Or am I wrong, in which case, we might aswell all create new steam accounts for server purposes. Joe On 6 July 2012 13:02, Victor Voorhuis victor.silverd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not liking it either. I can't update my servers when playing games at Steam. It would be nice if it didn't sign off my Steam. 2012/7/6 Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com I believe all games will move to it soon. It uses the HTTP content delivery method if I recall correctly
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For paid games that have dedicated servers freely available, you _already_ can login with an empty steam account (check killing floor for instance - appid 215350 or 215360). On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Bobby bobby3...@gmail.com wrote: “- currently steamcmd requires a steam login to perform an update, we plan on adding a no-login mode in the future for free to download titles.” ** ** So even in the future, if it’s a PAY 19.99 game you would still need a log- in name? ** ** That’s murder for us that have 10 games on a box. We want the customers to DL the updates like we do/did with the hlds tool. Now we have to DL the patches and mass update everyone. How is that progress? ** ** -bobby ** ** *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Alfred Reynolds *Sent:* Friday, July 06, 2012 12:55 PM *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list (hlds_li...@list.valvesoftware.com) *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Steam CMD ** ** There is some mis-understanding of the new steamcmd update tool happening here, let me just clear things up: - steamcmd is used for updating of dedicated servers using the new Steam Pipe content system, newly released games on Steam use this system and older games are being switched over. - currently steamcmd requires a steam login to perform an update, we plan on adding a no-login mode in the future for free to download titles. - the login you use for steamcmd just needs rights to the game you are updating, so for the majority of dedicated server applications you CAN use a free account. So you could currently make an account per machine you wish to run the tool on. You do NOT need to buy the full game client to update if the dedicated server is free. - CS:GO is a special case because it is in closed beta, access to its dedicated server is limited to blessed accounts which is why you need a special login. If you are having problems running CS:GO servers and are in the beta email the team and ask for access to another account for your dedicated servers. With Steam Pipe you should see an improvement in download speeds and more robust response during high demand. It uses HTTP as the content delivery method, so you could setup a local HTTP proxy to cache all steamcmd requests, making updates from multiple machines stay on your local network. - Alfred *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Valentin G. *Sent:* Friday, July 06, 2012 7:07 AM *To:* Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Steam CMD Yeah that's my main gripe with it. If you allow all accounts into the system though you might aswell drop the requirement to login alltogether. If we need to own the games to host servers at least allow simultanous login to both SteamCMD and the desktop client. I would like to hear why this is done anyway, I can somehow get behind it for CS:GO as it's a closed beta right now (although restricting server file access is still weird) but why introduce this to games already released. It's just an inconvenience. This is not that big of an issue for F2P but buying extra $30+ games just to have a separate server account is not something I would want to do. I could afford it but then again - it is not *that* big of an inconvenience now, is it? On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 3:59 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote: New accounts that have to own all those games... On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Joe Powell j...@joepowell.co.uk wrote:*** * It wouldnt be so bad if for example, you could use it with any account.*** * For CSGO, its beta, so your account has to have access to it? Or am I wrong, in which case, we might aswell all create new steam accounts for server purposes. Joe On 6 July 2012 13:02, Victor Voorhuis victor.silverd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not liking it either. I can't update my servers when playing games at Steam. It would be nice if it didn't sign off my Steam. 2012/7/6 Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.com I believe all games will move to it soon. It uses the HTTP content delivery method if I recall correctly. On Friday, July 6, 2012, Vader_666 wrote: Natural Selection 2 use Steam CMD too I think since the last build. Le 6 juil. 2012 04:02, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com a écrit : Different games get updates at the same time. Especially games with shared engines. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Ryan Stecker voidedwea...@gmail.com wrote: Having to update more than one server at a time with an update tool is awful practice. Please do all other server operators a favor
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Most of the dedicated servers are free and have no restrictions on that (If you do not own CSS, you can still download the dedicated server for it).. The log-in requirement for CS:GO is going to expire as it moves out of beta and into full usage. I expect the DS will be free at that point without restriction. besides CS:GO I don't know of a dedicated server that requires authentication to download offhand, but I have no tried them all. One the no log-on feature gets added you should have what you have today, but with the added ability to cache the content on your proxy. On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Bobby bobby3...@gmail.com wrote: “- currently steamcmd requires a steam login to perform an update, we plan on adding a no-login mode in the future for free to download titles.” ** ** So even in the future, if it’s a PAY 19.99 game you would still need a log- in name? ** ** That’s murder for us that have 10 games on a box. We want the customers to DL the updates like we do/did with the hlds tool. Now we have to DL the patches and mass update everyone. How is that progress? ** ** -bobby ** ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Where can we get this other account? I am tried of sharing my personal account for work. On 7/6/2012 12:54 PM, Alfred Reynolds wrote: - CS:GO is a special case because it is in closed beta, access to its dedicated server is limited to blessed accounts which is why you need a special login. If you are having problems running CS:GO servers and are in the beta email the team and ask for access to another account for your dedicated servers. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Just register another steamaccount. On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 8:14 PM, RSS List User l...@redspeedservers.comwrote: Where can we get this other account? I am tried of sharing my personal account for work. On 7/6/2012 12:54 PM, Alfred Reynolds wrote: - CS:GO is a special case because it is in closed beta, access to its dedicated server is limited to blessed accounts which is why you need a special login. If you are having problems running CS:GO servers and are in the beta email the team and ask for access to another account for your dedicated servers. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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SteamCMD so far is a big failure on Linux. The Linux version of the tool recently had the MS Windows characters in it which is ridiculous. As a user I had to guess what this tool meant to download server files. - Steam.sh was written incorrectly, with old-style code. - Define a STEAMEXE variable before running the script is illogical. The script with no variable should search for a correct file or return an error. - Messages in many places overlap each other. - The tool does not return to a new line very often. - It does not inform you that you need to set the server path. - It does not inform you that you need to enter steam guard code. - It performs the connections to servers outside the Valve, making it difficult to pass through the firewall rules. The idea is good, but the execution leaves much to be desired. I do not consider myself as an expert. I respect your work Valve. But your tool should not be used in stable games. It should be released as a beta version at least, if not alpha. Dnia 6 lipca 2012 1:32 RSS List User lt;l...@redspeedservers.comgt; napisał(a): Hello all, I don't really keep up to date on steamcmd, but what games are currently using steamcmd? Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Steam CMD
CS:GO Beta On 6 July 2012 00:32, RSS List User l...@redspeedservers.com wrote: Hello all, I don't really keep up to date on steamcmd, but what games are currently using steamcmd? Thanks! __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hldshttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Steam CMD
CS:GO, Killing Floor, and Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad Jared Creasy Community Relations Tripwire Interactive On 7/5/2012 7:48 PM, Nomaan Ahmad wrote: CS:GO Beta On 6 July 2012 00:32, RSS List User l...@redspeedservers.com mailto:l...@redspeedservers.com wrote: Hello all, I don't really keep up to date on steamcmd, but what games are currently using steamcmd? Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Steam CMD
How is this progress? Seems like it going back 5 yrs. HLDS update and done. Now we have to sign in and hope you signed out of the game. Can't update more than one server at a time. It's the worst idea ever!! -bobby From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jared Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:55 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Steam CMD CS:GO, Killing Floor, and Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad Jared Creasy Community Relations Tripwire Interactive On 7/5/2012 7:48 PM, Nomaan Ahmad wrote: CS:GO Beta On 6 July 2012 00:32, RSS List User l...@redspeedservers.com wrote: Hello all, I don't really keep up to date on steamcmd, but what games are currently using steamcmd? Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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Having to update more than one server at a time with an update tool is awful practice. Please do all other server operators a favor and use rsync or similar. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Bobby bobby3...@gmail.com wrote: How is this progress? Seems like it going back 5 yrs. HLDS update and done. Now we have to sign in and hope you signed out of the game. Can’t update more than one server at a time. It’s the worst idea ever!! -bobby ** ** *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Jared *Sent:* Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:55 PM *To:* hlds@list.valvesoftware.com *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Steam CMD ** ** CS:GO, Killing Floor, and Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad Jared Creasy Community Relations Tripwire Interactive On 7/5/2012 7:48 PM, Nomaan Ahmad wrote: CS:GO Beta On 6 July 2012 00:32, RSS List User l...@redspeedservers.com wrote: Hello all, I don't really keep up to date on steamcmd, but what games are currently using steamcmd? Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ** ** ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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If valve would let us build an update package with only files that were changed, it would be no problem. On 7/5/2012 9:03 PM, Ryan Stecker wrote: Having to update more than one server at a time with an update tool is awful practice. Please do all other server operators a favor and use rsync or similar. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Bobby bobby3...@gmail.com mailto:bobby3...@gmail.com wrote: How is this progress? Seems like it going back 5 yrs. HLDS update and done. Now we have to sign in and hope you signed out of the game. Can't update more than one server at a time. It's the worst idea ever!! -bobby *From:*hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Jared *Sent:* Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:55 PM *To:* hlds@list.valvesoftware.com mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Steam CMD CS:GO, Killing Floor, and Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad Jared Creasy Community Relations Tripwire Interactive On 7/5/2012 7:48 PM, Nomaan Ahmad wrote: CS:GO Beta On 6 July 2012 00:32, RSS List User l...@redspeedservers.com mailto:l...@redspeedservers.com wrote: Hello all, I don't really keep up to date on steamcmd, but what games are currently using steamcmd? Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Steam CMD
Different games get updates at the same time. Especially games with shared engines. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Ryan Stecker voidedwea...@gmail.com wrote: Having to update more than one server at a time with an update tool is awful practice. Please do all other server operators a favor and use rsync or similar. On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Bobby bobby3...@gmail.com wrote: How is this progress? Seems like it going back 5 yrs. HLDS update and done. Now we have to sign in and hope you signed out of the game. Can’t update more than one server at a time. It’s the worst idea ever!! -bobby ** ** *From:* hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] *On Behalf Of *Jared *Sent:* Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:55 PM *To:* hlds@list.valvesoftware.com *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Steam CMD ** ** CS:GO, Killing Floor, and Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad Jared Creasy Community Relations Tripwire Interactive On 7/5/2012 7:48 PM, Nomaan Ahmad wrote: CS:GO Beta On 6 July 2012 00:32, RSS List User l...@redspeedservers.com wrote: Hello all, I don't really keep up to date on steamcmd, but what games are currently using steamcmd? Thanks! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ** ** ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
