Re: [hlds_linux] Cheaters having legality issues?
Stefan Huszics wrote: Actually what OGC is doing is 100% circumventing detection. The funtion is there ONLY check if the secure module is updated and it ONLY disables the cheat if it is, otherwise it stays active. That IS circumventing detection (as opposed to eg trying to _hide_ the active cheat from detection). You realy don't get it, do you. Ok, last time I'll reply to this. When a cheat is unloaded/disabled you cannot use it anymore. You cannot cheat. The cheat isn't there anymore, it doesn't function. To circumvent a detection means that as a result the cheat still is active and usable but was not detected. But the unloaded cheat is not present to be used, so how could this be circumvention. In your logic if I would cheat and get detected and then I decide to uninstall the cheat, wipe it from my harddrive, then I would circumvent the detection (because the no existent cheat cannot be deteted) and would thus be doing something illelgal? What kind of a warped logic is that? Btw, either you're living in the future or you compters date setting is fucked up. Florian. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Cheaters having legality issues?
Well well, let me understand guys, what you want is politician to make law about cheats abd maybe stolen key Just to point out a minor quibble: you're referring to everyone when you say guys, not just the crackpot in question ;) -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Secure update crashes HLTV!!!
HLTV started working again yesterday evening (in europe), an update to the security module? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6. kesäkuuta 2002 11:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Secure update crashes HLTV!!! --On Wednesday, June 05, 2002 09:40:27 PM +0200 \\[dgc\\]splaTTer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: did u trie to run ur server insecure? on mine hltv works in insecure mode but we need secure mode AND hltv... :( Ho, never tried insecure mode. We want secure mode more than hltv and as both work now together there is no need for us to try insecure mode. [FAW]Terran -- visit http://www.excalibur-cs.de/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] logfile management
Has anyone written or found a shell script or the like used to automatically delete log files that are a certain number of days old? I'd like to keep a solid months worth of log files (31 maybe 35 days or so). I'm imagining a shell script that is croned to run once a day deleting files older than a certain age. I'm sure I could figure something out but thought I'd ask if anyone else is doing something similar. C'mon Brian! It's Linux... find /usr/hlds_l/tfc/logs -name *.log -ctime +30 -exec rm -f {} \; Stick that in your cron and run it once a day. Jeffrey botman Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re:Re:RE: [hlds_linux] [OT]Learn how to quote
Well I posted OT .. this is an OT thread I thought :) Sorry Eric was letting loose some irritation so I thought well maybe I should do the same BlackEdder DeNiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 6-6-2002 13:14:12: A discussion about legalitly issues for cheats by ppl who are no lawyers always does the trick for me :) Especially when they begin comparing US law to other countries BlackEdder And what does this have todo with out little quote problem? :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] Sheesh I just joined this list. DO NOT REPLY PLS
Well said Daniel, I have 3,481 emails in my hlds folder and about 50 of them are worthwhile information. I have seen many people make threats of leaving the list am I have thought about this as well, but would hate to miss out on anything that might be of interest. I applaud the efforts of the few that wish to make the changes as to the subject line, but this is just getting out of hand. Alot of people are now afraid of posting here with there problems (me included) as they do not want to be flamed or called an idiot for asking questions. I am a firm believer that the only stupid question is the one that was never asked ... alot of times it is just something that can be answered with a single reply. There needs to be some sort of administration going on. We as admins should know that without policing riots ensue. What do you think your server would be like if there was no admin there ? Come on guys lets pull together. If you don't have anything nice or productive to say then say nothing at all We were all new to this at some point. I can remember the days when I did not even know how to start my Linux server and came here for some help and have learned quite a bit. now all I see is flam after flame PLS do not respond to this and just think about what we have been doing lately. Just my 2 cents as well -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Reinhardt Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds_linux] [OT] Sheesh I just joined this list. To all whom it may concern, I just joined this list a couple days ago, and I am ready to unsubscribe. Everyone is trying to out do one another. If you wanna have a flame war amounst yourself leave this list, and do it via rivate e-mail. SOme of you need to grow up, and get off you're Egotisical Trips and come down to Earth. I have asked many questions, and amounst all this drama in the HLDS_L List the questions went unanswered, but eventually I solved them on my own time. It may have took longer, but atleast I learned how to solve problems and not create them. Just STFU and stay on topic, and take your Flames to the private side of HLDS_L. Just my 2 american cents. Thanks, Daniel ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] Sheesh I just joined this list.
I hear ya, Daniel.. I've been on the list a while and often thing of just bagging the whole thing.. But luckily i've made a ton of filters that take 90% of what people write and send it to the trash. I'm actually hesitant to even post solutions for some people because of all the bitching and complaining that goes on. The signal to noise ratio in here is about .5dB. But let's just drop this thread before we are accused of spamming this list with bs-posts. (wich we are actually, but nobody has complained, so far) But seriously, there is no need to post these kind of grow-up-you-morons, the just don't work. check out the archives, the little quote-flame-war-thingy we had going here a while back.. No need for another one of those.. (nobody seemed to have learned anything from it, pretty sad ;P) -- Regards Christian Michelsen one of 'em norwegian assholes ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re:Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] Sheesh I just joined this list.
http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds BlackEdder ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] Sheesh I just joined this list.
Ermlook at the bottom of the email you sent to the listserver (and probably the bottom of this one too...) - click the link (pasted below) and you can un-subscribe from there. To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux J. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] [OT] Sheesh I just joined this list.
Sign up for digest mode, Daniel. IMHO, it makes it much easier to wade through the crap. --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Daniel Reinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds_linux] [OT] Sheesh I just joined this list. Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 11:38:51 -0600 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To all whom it may concern, I just joined this list a couple days ago, and I am ready to unsubscribe. Everyone is trying to out do one another. If you wanna have a flame war amounst yourself leave this list, and do it via rivate e-mail. SOme of you need to grow up, and get off you're Egotisical Trips and come down to Earth. I have asked many questions, and amounst all this drama in the HLDS_L List the questions went unanswered, but eventually I solved them on my own time. It may have took longer, but atleast I learned how to solve problems and not create them. Just STFU and stay on topic, and take your Flames to the private side of HLDS_L. Just my 2 american cents. Thanks, Daniel ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] Sheesh I just joined this list.
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 13:46:18 -0500, Bryant Brabson wrote: Sign up for digest mode, Daniel. IMHO, it makes it much easier to wade through the crap. well.. it would also be easier if all ppl would use email clients which don't mess up the headers so good clients can display the threads :) dafire ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Cheaters having legality issues?
I'd rather we proved that there is a technical solution or a social solution to this problem. On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 15:48, Petros Mylonopoulos wrote: quote who=DeNiro Also consider that in both US and EU it is illegale to toy aroun dwith secured information. By hacking into the security module they are not only breaking the EULA but also breaking a much more serious law. Good point. Send the DMCA on them. Make it useful for a change. - Invader Zim | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | This looks like a job for me Counter Strike at| ICQ: 2548100 | So Everybody Just Follow me http://cs.take13.net | http://take13.net | Cuz we need a little controversy 6 CS servers powered by Slackware Linux | Cuz it feels so empty without me - ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] logfile management
Don't run this command as root from the root directory :) Very bad things will happen to you if you do. On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 08:18, Casper Gielen wrote: On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 09:12:16PM -0700, Brian A. Stumm wrote: Has anyone written or found a shell script or the like used to automatically delete log files that are a certain number of days old? I'd like to keep a solid months worth of log files (31 maybe 35 days or so). From the top of my head (=untested) find ./ -mtime +30 -exec rm {} \; (Find all files in the current directory modified for the last time over 30 days ago and remove them) If it works as expected put it in crontab. -- Casper Gielen [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Linux sucks twice as fast and 10 times more reliably, and since you have the source, it's your fault. -Ca1v1n ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] How to log.
I know I will probably get flamed like a newbie, but would anyone know the cvars I need to put in my server.cfg file so I can log what my server does? Your help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Daniel Reinhardt ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Monster-plugin on/off :)
Hey. While waiting for Botman to finish (or begin :P ) adding runtime on/off settings to his Monster-plugin I wonder.. Can you use metamod and pause the monster-plugin? E.g. Run the plugin in paused mode and when camping occurs be able to unpause and voila, monsters will spawn (pre-config files). Sounds like a good -while-waiting-solution for me, but I can't try it yet I'm afraid, that's the whole reason for mailing to the list :-) / regards granis ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] How to log.
Daniel Reinhardt wrote: I know I will probably get flamed like a newbie, but would anyone know the cvars I need to put in my server.cfg file so I can log what my server does? Put log on in your -autoexec.cfg- file. Florian. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Monster-plugin on/off :)
While waiting for Botman to finish (or begin :P ) adding runtime on/off settings to his Monster-plugin I wonder.. Can you use metamod and pause the monster-plugin? E.g. Run the plugin in paused mode and when camping occurs be able to unpause and voila, monsters will spawn (pre-config files). Sounds like a good -while-waiting-solution for me, but I can't try it yet I'm afraid, that's the whole reason for mailing to the list :-) / regards granis I believe pausing and unloading the metamod plugin requires a special function in the plugin to support this. As this is a BETA release, no such functions exist in the Monster plugin and attempting to use them will either cause nothing to happen or cause the game to crash. Will can probably give you more details on the requirements for these metamod features. Jeffrey botman Broome ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Latency Time addon (statsme + hlstats)
Hey. :) This might be considered off-topic, but shall I even mention the lates discussions going on? ; - ) I've read on the unitedadmins forum about a hack/improvement that will show Average Latency and total connected time in hlstats ( for each player :P ). The only instructions is here: http://forums.unitedadmins.com/attachment.php?s=postid=20110 I failed to contact the author, I need help with this.. I cant really understand *how* I shall install all this, so please someone. Help me decode this and give some newbie-instructions! :D Much appreciated! / petter ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] A problem with cs_hokkaido map under Linux AND a solution for those using Adminmod with reserved slots ...
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Alright, I have a problem with cs_hokkaido killing my server under Linux. The error is the same as I use to get with de_rock when they first released the final version. They had to fix the map itself. Has anyone else seen this problem with this map? L 06/06/2002 - 15:38:13: FATAL ERROR (shutting down): Mod_LoadSpriteGroup: interval=0 FATAL ERROR (shutting down): Mod_LoadSpriteGroup: interval=0 Secondly, I was looking for a quick fix to a problem most of us have with respect to Adminmod and reserved slots. The problem being that typically ip addyies listed in the ips.ini are dynamic and will change over time. I'm big in low maintenance so I told my admins to subscribe to a service like www.dyndns.org http://www.dyndns.org in which you run a client on your box and you assign a hostname to your box. On the server side, I take their hostnames and convert them into ips daily using this python script. from socket import * import string f1 = open(hname.ini) f2 = open(ips.ini, w) f1line = f1.readline() while f1line: hostname = string.strip(f1line) ip = gethostbyname(hostname) f2.write(ip + \n) f1line = f1.readline() f1.close() f2.close() I list it here in case anyone else could find it useful. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Cheaters having legality issues?
May I have some words about WTF IS THE DMCA? Digital Millenium *Copyright* Act http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=105_cong_billsdocid=f:h2281enr.txt.pdf Is what it is about. USA != the entire world. No, but go look at what WIPO are trying to do, especially with things like their WCT. So far 35 countrys have signed that... and that numbers ever increasing. Thank God. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] A thought (semi-[OT])
Maybe we need an [ActuallyRelevantForOnce] subject tag for when someone is posting some actual interesting and/or useful information? I know I can't be the only one just hitting 'delete' on messages that don't interest me. I don't get involved in long threads of pointless blather. I try to be at least partially on-topic when I post here, but the more I see these non-HLDS-related threads (e. g. Learn How To Quote), the more I think a moderated list would be useful. Not that I'm necessarily volunteering, but it's something to ponder. -- [RzP]Ghoti-TPF- Admin of the Happy Fun Ball TFC Server. It's happy! It's fun! It's Happy Fun Ball! Get yours at hsgcomputers.com:27015 today! http://www.a3on.com/hfb ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Cheaters having legality issues?
- Original Message - From: Jeremy Brooking [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Cheaters having legality issues? May I have some words about WTF IS THE DMCA? Digital Millenium *Copyright* Act http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=105_cong_billsdoc id=f:h2281enr.txt.pdf Thank you, too much information is always better than none :D MoD, Always @ your service. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Latency Time addon (statsme + hlstats)
Cool, I actually replied to my own post :P Here's an example of the final product: http://cs.whoc.org.uk/rogue/index.php?mode=playerinfoplayer=154 Check out the two extra columns in his Player Profile! / petter On 6/6/2002 11:40 PM, petter granstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey. :) This might be considered off-topic, but shall I even mention the lates discussions going on? ; - ) I've read on the unitedadmins forum about a hack/improvement that will show Average Latency and total connected time in hlstats ( for each player :P ). The only instructions is here: http://forums.unitedadmins.com/attachment.php?s=postid=20110 I failed to contact the author, I need help with this.. I cant really understand *how* I shall install all this, so please someone. Help me decode this and give some newbie-instructions! :D Much appreciated! / petter ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] logfile management
they should compress much better than that. I compress about 80mb of logs into 10mb. Chuck Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... A months logs uncompressed are about 120 MB and compressed about 45 MB Chuck Larson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tombstone-gaming.com Quoting Brian A. Stumm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Couple questions for you... How big (file size) is one months worth of log files? How big is one maps regular *.log file for you and how long maps do you run or how much disk space does one days worth of log files take up for you (uncompressed). Trying to get an idea of how big one months logs would be compressed for *my* situation... Thanks. On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Chuck Larson wrote: I wrote one that I use with cron that tars and gzips last months logs into a seperate directory then deletes last months logs. I do this on the 15 of every month since I rarely have to go back more than 2 weeks. You could modify this to suit your needs I'm sure # - Start of script #!/bin/bash # # Archives last months hlds_linux logs # MONTH=`date '+%m' --date='1 month ago'` YEAR=`date '+%Y' --date='1 month ago'` # Location of HLDS log directory LOGSDIR='/usr/games/hlife/hlds_l/cstrike/logs' # Location to place tarball ARCHIVE='/usr/games/hlife/logArchives' if [ $YEAR ] then if [ $MONTH ] then cd $LOGSDIR echo Archiving last months logs if [ -e `tar -zcf $ARCHIVE/logs_$YEAR-$MONTH.tar.gz L$MONTH*` ] then echo Removing last months logs rm -rf L$MONTH* else echo Error Archiving logs fi else echo Error determing last month value fi else echo Error determining last month and year values fi # --- END SCRIPT Chuck Larson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tombstone-gaming.com Quoting Brian A. Stumm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Has anyone written or found a shell script or the like used to automatically delete log files that are a certain number of days old? I'd like to keep a solid months worth of log files (31 maybe 35 days or so). I'm imagining a shell script that is croned to run once a day deleting files older than a certain age. I'm sure I could figure something out but thought I'd ask if anyone else is doing something similar. -- - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ab. Brian A. Stummd88b. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8PYPY88 http://www.bs-linux.com 8|o||o|88 The Choice of a Gnu Generation8'.88 8`._.' Y8. # d/ `8b. ### .dP . Y8b. ## # d8:' `::88b. ## ### ### ### ### ### ### ### d8 `Y88b ## # ## ### ## #### ## ## :8P ' :888 ## # ## #### #### ### 8a.: _a88P ##### #### #### ###._/Yaa_ :.| 88P| ## # ####### ###### ## \YP `| 8P `. #### ### # #### ### ### ## ## / \._.d| .' # ### ### ### ### ### `--..__)88P`._.' ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] How to log.
I know I will probably get flamed like a newbie, but would anyone know the cvars I need to put in my server.cfg file so I can log what my server does? Put log on in your -autoexec.cfg- file. Other logfile options include: mp_logdetail x Where x is 1,2,31: log enemy attacks 2. log teammate attacks 3. log teammate and enemy attacks mp_logmessages x Where x is 0,1 0: do not log messages 1: log messages logaddress x Where x is an IP address and port where the log is to be sent to sv_logbans x Where x is 0,1 0: do not log bans 1: log bans from Valve's anti-cheat mp_logfile x Where x is 0,1 0: do not log to file 1: log to file *by default all log files are located in /moddir/logs (i.e. /cstrike/logs) and are in format: LMMDDxxx.log(xxx specifies the logfile number for that day, MM DD are the month and day respectively) Hope that helps- Jonathan Hodges Northwestern University [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux