Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug
I would say repeated skywalking is defintely bannable. It's exploiting a bug in the map to give you an unfair advantage. Just like popping thru the ceiling on assault or oilrig. The random up/down models is a glitch, but you can't do it on purpose (that I know of). And often, you may see the player up in the air, but if you ask them what they see, everything is fine on their screen. I've never had/seen/heard of an instance where an actual player sees _himself_ up in the air or moving thru the floor. - Original Message - From: "HoundDawg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug > Would this be considered a bannable use exploit? Like the nail grenades to > the ceiling in TFC. Or, does it kinda happen accidentally? > > HoundDawg > > United Admins - Game Server Admin Association > http://www.unitedadmins.com > > - Original Message - > From: "Eric (Deacon)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:30 PM > Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug > > > > > > I know this is probably not a cheat, but I think it greatly spoils > > the > > > game. > > > > > > It's a bug in the map. > > > > You're thinking of the "skywalker" exploit in de_dust. That's a > > different matter. > > > > -- > > Eric (the Deacon remix) > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug
It's a random thing. You shoot where you know the model really is, not where you see it. It's not something the other person is even aware of, his view shows him where he should be. And just as quickly as they appear at the wrong elevation, they can pop back down or up at any time. They don't really go back and forth though. Usually, they start the round like that and with in a few seconds they snap back where they should be. As far as the dust skywalker thing, it's not so much a cheat but it really really annoying. I would love to treat it as a cheat though. Any way to set up hlguard to kick people at z elevations they shouldn't be at in certain maps? Heh. - m0gely > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of HoundDawg > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 3:03 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug > > Would this be considered a bannable use exploit? Like the nail grenades > to > the ceiling in TFC. Or, does it kinda happen accidentally? > > HoundDawg > > United Admins - Game Server Admin Association > http://www.unitedadmins.com > > - Original Message - > From: "Eric (Deacon)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:30 PM > Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug
I think they seemed to be actitvating the exploit themselves. Once one person had done it the other CT's were gagging to know how they could do it too. As Mogely suggested I have been slapping, banning and kicking the offenders, but it would be nice to see a way to stop this from actually happening. Jay. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug
HoundDawg wrote: > Would this be considered a bannable use exploit? Like the nail grenades to > the ceiling in TFC. Or, does it kinda happen accidentally? See my description.. this is definitely not something that happens accidentally. It needs 2 people to be able to do it. You can do it on other maps too.. assault, for example, you can boost someone through the corner of the warehouse and make them suddenly appear outside.. Again, it takes 2 people to do it.. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug
Would this be considered a bannable use exploit? Like the nail grenades to the ceiling in TFC. Or, does it kinda happen accidentally? HoundDawg United Admins - Game Server Admin Association http://www.unitedadmins.com As far as i know it takes two ppl to pull off...so Not accidentally :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] HLTV delay?
Hi, I am admin of many public and cw servers and some of them have stable HLTV. I tried to setup HLTV delay higher (60s) then default 30s, but TV seems laggy and it was whorst then delay 30s, with 120s delay it was really bad. Have anyone same problem? Thanks! ;] -- Best regards, Seky mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug
Would this be considered a bannable use exploit? Like the nail grenades to the ceiling in TFC. Or, does it kinda happen accidentally? HoundDawg United Admins - Game Server Admin Association http://www.unitedadmins.com - Original Message - From: "Eric (Deacon)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:30 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug > > > I know this is probably not a cheat, but I think it greatly spoils > the > > game. > > > > It's a bug in the map. > > You're thinking of the "skywalker" exploit in de_dust. That's a > different matter. > > -- > Eric (the Deacon remix) > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug
Yeah admin_bury/kick/slap/ban anyone who does it. - m0gely > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jay Anstiss > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:41 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug > > Yep - that's it - skywalker - the players that were doing this mentioned > that name. So, what's the story behind this skywalker thing? Is there > something that can be done to prevent it? > > Jay. > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] New Security Modules -Thursday
I run a 16 player pub server. The last 2 updates have caused problems. rp "Barry L. Jeung" wrote: > > Thanks Eric. FYI, both my servers needed to be rebooted after the update, same error >messages as before. Linux of course, 32 and 30 player servers. Btw, are the people >who are experiencing no problems with the VAC updates running smaller servers like >16-20 player servers? I wonder if the # of players has something to do with it > > -Original Message- > From: Eric Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:17 AM > To: Half-Life Dedicated Server Mailing List; Half-Life Dedicated Linux > Server Mailing List > Cc: Erik Johnson; Leon Hartwig > Subject: [hlds_linux] New Security Modules -Thursday > Importance: High > > *** This only affects Counter-Strike servers. *** > > We've updated the public security modules again. Your Counter-Strike > servers should update themselves automatically. If you find your servers > are suddenly having problems, try restarting them. > > These modules should detect OGC's OpenGl Hack 1.8, 1.9, and 2.0. These > modules will also fix the problems clients with Voodoo cards have been > having. > > We're still gathering information on detected cheaters, so you'll see > outgoing traffic to: 205.158.143.67:27013. > > Thanks. > > Eric Smith > VALVe > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug
Eric (Deacon) wrote: > You're thinking of the "skywalker" exploit in de_dust. That's a > different matter. That's what I assumed he was talking about. Sounded more like it than the "People appearing at random heights" bug, which happens on all maps, at any location, and not just at the CT spawn area on dust. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] New Security Modules -Thursday
Got 2 (10+1 one reserved spot) servers that are doing it. Used to have 4 but took down 2 to put up an AA server. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Barry L. Jeung Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] New Security Modules -Thursday Thanks Eric. FYI, both my servers needed to be rebooted after the update, same error messages as before. Linux of course, 32 and 30 player servers. Btw, are the people who are experiencing no problems with the VAC updates running smaller servers like 16-20 player servers? I wonder if the # of players has something to do with it ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] hlguard
I was joking Eric - I guess so much sarcasm floats around these days it's hard to distinguish it sometimes (shortly after posting the initial email someone gave me a brief idea of what I need to do - typical!) Jay. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug
Yep - that's it - skywalker - the players that were doing this mentioned that name. So, what's the story behind this skywalker thing? Is there something that can be done to prevent it? Jay. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug
> > I know this is probably not a cheat, but I think it greatly spoils the > game. > > It's a bug in the map. You're thinking of the "skywalker" exploit in de_dust. That's a different matter. -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] hlguard
> Weird lot in that #unitedadmins chatroom - hung around in there for quite > a while and no-one answered my request for help...shame that. It's possible that they are otherwise occupied--providing for their families, for instance. Do you want your money back? :) Be patient and try again later if you didn't get your answer in the first 30 seconds... -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] hlguard
Weird lot in that #unitedadmins chatroom - hung around in there for quite a while and no-one answered my request for help...shame that. Jay. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug
I have seen this too. sometime's people are running around half way in the ground, other times they are up in the air running around. Just the other day this was happening and I saw my buddy doing it (got a screen shot), then he went over and sprayed the wall, but the spray was where is would have been had he been on the ground. So I am thinking, if I see an enemy coming at me in the air, aim low :) - m0gely > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jay Anstiss > > I don't know if anyone else has experienced this same bug, or if it's > something that's always been there and not just in the latest released > files > for CS, but on my server the other day (whilst running de_dust) I was > playing as a terrorist and when going through the archway towards one of > the > bombsites (near the CT spawn point) I knew there was a CT there round the > corner, but when I turned to shoot there he was, floating in the air. I > thought it was a momentary glitch, but on the next round it happened again > only this time 4 others were with him floating halfway up the wall and > moving around. Before they could be shot they wiped us out. > > Is there a bug that someone knows of that is causing this? (NOTE* I > dropped > into spectator mode, followed the CT's around and when the round started > after that about 4 of them ran to this same point and somehow 'floated' up > again. > > I know this is probably not a cheat, but I think it greatly spoils the > game. > > Jay. > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug
Jay Anstiss wrote: > I know this is probably not a cheat, but I think it greatly spoils the game. It's a bug in the map. If you jump up onto the second crate by the CT spawn (You can knife jump from the other crate, or get boosted) then get a second person up there, you can boost someone through the roof of the map and then they can run around on top of it.. It takes cooperation because you need 2 people to do it. I tend to kick people if they continue doing after I've asked them to stop.. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug
I see this a lot in tfc. The server or client seems to think the player model is above or below its actual position so you see people running around in the air, or in the floor. You cant actually shoot them tho (the models that is). If you move your crosshairs over the model it wont give you any info, but if you move your crosshairs to the height they should be you will see the info, and shooting in that area will register as hits. Really weird bug. -Cruiser - Original Message - From: "Jay Anstiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:29 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug > I don't know if anyone else has experienced this same bug, or if it's > something that's always been there and not just in the latest released files > for CS, but on my server the other day (whilst running de_dust) I was > playing as a terrorist and when going through the archway towards one of the > bombsites (near the CT spawn point) I knew there was a CT there round the > corner, but when I turned to shoot there he was, floating in the air. I > thought it was a momentary glitch, but on the next round it happened again > only this time 4 others were with him floating halfway up the wall and > moving around. Before they could be shot they wiped us out. > > Is there a bug that someone knows of that is causing this? (NOTE* I dropped > into spectator mode, followed the CT's around and when the round started > after that about 4 of them ran to this same point and somehow 'floated' up > again. > > I know this is probably not a cheat, but I think it greatly spoils the game. > > Jay. > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 15/07/2002 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Re: New Security Modules -Thursday
Funny. On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 03:51:01PM -0400, Bill Everhart wrote: > > it's very simple if you think about it: > > a. If you want Announcements sign up for HLDS_Announce > b. If you want The Eric Decon show sign up for HLDS_Linux > c. If you want Windows...uh, Eric, why is there a windows list again? > > > On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Eric Smith wrote: > > > Any messages that we send to HLDS_Announce will also be sent to HLDS and > > HLDS_Linux. > > > > -Eric ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] [OT] possible bug
I don't know if anyone else has experienced this same bug, or if it's something that's always been there and not just in the latest released files for CS, but on my server the other day (whilst running de_dust) I was playing as a terrorist and when going through the archway towards one of the bombsites (near the CT spawn point) I knew there was a CT there round the corner, but when I turned to shoot there he was, floating in the air. I thought it was a momentary glitch, but on the next round it happened again only this time 4 others were with him floating halfway up the wall and moving around. Before they could be shot they wiped us out. Is there a bug that someone knows of that is causing this? (NOTE* I dropped into spectator mode, followed the CT's around and when the round started after that about 4 of them ran to this same point and somehow 'floated' up again. I know this is probably not a cheat, but I think it greatly spoils the game. Jay. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [OT] hlguard
With Valve's changes to how/where one can exec files, it's very hard to "catch" someone. HLGuard is now working to block "protected" cvars and to block/fool cheats from working correctly. For more help, I'd really suggest IRC...we have a reasonable number of people around to help/talk about hlg stuff. irc.gamesnet.net #unitedadmins Z. Jay Anstiss wrote: > Before anyone asks, yes - I have read the files, but I would like some help. > > I have downloaded the latest version of HLGuard and would like to know if > there is anyone out there kind enough to email me (off list if need be) with > a few ideas of what settings would be best in the config to actually > stop/catch the wallhacks, aimbots or whatever HLGuard is now able to do. I > did have the last version, but I never seemed to be able to actually get it > working and catch anyone. > > I await your replies - sarcastic or helpful - whichever is first! :-) > > Jay > > (email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] [OT] hlguard
Before anyone asks, yes - I have read the files, but I would like some help. I have downloaded the latest version of HLGuard and would like to know if there is anyone out there kind enough to email me (off list if need be) with a few ideas of what settings would be best in the config to actually stop/catch the wallhacks, aimbots or whatever HLGuard is now able to do. I did have the last version, but I never seemed to be able to actually get it working and catch anyone. I await your replies - sarcastic or helpful - whichever is first! :-) Jay (email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
