RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
Sure...I see. I said it would be nice if it were open source. The point I'm trying to make is that people complain WAY too much on this list. I'm sure Alfred and the other developers at Valve get tired of *most* of the threads here bashing them day in and day out. People ought to take a moment and put themselves in Vavle's shoes. Would you go to work every single day and put forth your best effort if all of your customers beat you down for 9 hours a day. I'd develop a real sour taste in a hurry! Despite the troubles Valve has had with Steam, at least they're still putting in the effort to make it better. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kkith > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 12:12 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds > > Sendmail is open source. Do you see where I could get that > implication? > > Mike Kercher wrote: > > >I didn't say anything about it being open source. I said free. > >It would be nice if it was, but I don't see that happening. > > > > > > > > > > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kkith > >>Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:36 PM > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds > >> > >>Mike Kercher wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Bah...with all the bitching that goes on here, one might be led to > >>>believe people actually PAID for the HLDS software. Valve > >>> > >>> > >>ought to go > >> > >> > >>>the way of sendmail. Have a free engine with no support > and a paid > >>>engine with better support, options and features. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>Does that imply hlds software be open source? > >> > >>___ > >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list archives, > >>please visit: > >>http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >___ > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server Update + help if possible
you need to convert the time anyhow. may be time zone information should be added on time relared messages so that ppl would get alert of the time zone issues. chris Alastair Grant wrote: Wouldn't it make sense to give GMT times as there is an international audience? Alfred Reynolds wrote: Remember any times we refer to are relative to PST (Pacific Standard Time), so make sure to compensate for the timezone you are in. -- Wireplay Official http://www.wireplay.co.uk/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
Sendmail is open source. Do you see where I could get that implication? Mike Kercher wrote: I didn't say anything about it being open source. I said free. It would be nice if it was, but I don't see that happening. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kkith Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds Mike Kercher wrote: Bah...with all the bitching that goes on here, one might be led to believe people actually PAID for the HLDS software. Valve ought to go the way of sendmail. Have a free engine with no support and a paid engine with better support, options and features. Does that imply hlds software be open source? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
I didn't say anything about it being open source. I said free. It would be nice if it was, but I don't see that happening. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kkith > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:36 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds > > Mike Kercher wrote: > > >Bah...with all the bitching that goes on here, one might be led to > >believe people actually PAID for the HLDS software. Valve > ought to go > >the way of sendmail. Have a free engine with no support and a paid > >engine with better support, options and features. > > > > > > > Does that imply hlds software be open source? > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
Mike Kercher wrote: Bah...with all the bitching that goes on here, one might be led to believe people actually PAID for the HLDS software. Valve ought to go the way of sendmail. Have a free engine with no support and a paid engine with better support, options and features. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=symbiosis -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
Mike Kercher wrote: Bah...with all the bitching that goes on here, one might be led to believe people actually PAID for the HLDS software. Valve ought to go the way of sendmail. Have a free engine with no support and a paid engine with better support, options and features. Does that imply hlds software be open source? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
Seriously, give these people some slack. Software development hits road bumps sometimes that causes unpredictable amounts of debugging time. Something like painting a house can be estimated...software development often cannot. Give these guys a break. I for one am happy to see any improvements to the linux binary even if set back a little while. Phil Tuesday, February 4, 2003, 10:38:42 PM, you wrote: agc> Might as well, this whole steam thing is like an on-going beta test anyways agc> lol... :) agc> -Original Message- agc> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] agc> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike agc> Kercher agc> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:00 PM agc> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] agc> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds agc> Why? So everyone can complain that it wasn't tested thoroughly enough? Cut agc> them some slack and let them work! agc> -Original Message- agc> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] agc> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of agc> [EMAIL PROTECTED] agc> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:48 PM agc> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] agc> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds agc> wow that figures... just go release the crap already lol. agc> -Original Message- agc> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] agc> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erik Johnson agc> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:33 PM agc> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] agc> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds agc> We still have a bit of testing to do, this isn't going to happen today. agc> Erik agc> -Original Message- agc> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] agc> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wouter v/d agc> Bergh agc> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:37 PM agc> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] agc> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds agc> My hero :) >>From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds >>Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:50:51 -0800 >> >>The plan is to release it today along with some other changes (which >>will be posted on www.steampowered.com a couple hours before the >>release). >> >> > -Original Message- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> > Marcelo Bezerra >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:26 AM >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds >> > >> > Will it be released today, or it is not tested enough yet? :) >> > >> > On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 18:22, wouter v/d Bergh wrote: >> > > "probably this Wednesday." >> > > >> > > I will thank you on my knees for that! >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > >Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds >> > > >Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:16:25 -0800 >> > > > >> > > >We will release it within the next couple of weeks (probably this >> > > >Wednesday). >> > > > >> > > > > -Original Message- >> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> > Behalf Of Frash >> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 6:41 AM >> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > Subject: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds >> > > > > >> > > > > Alfred, >> > > > > The optimalisations you did sound great, on Aztec such a small >> > > > > load for such a slow CPU. >> > > > > I would love to test it aswell, can you release the .so file >> > > > > unofficially or will you wait until the next release? There is >> > > > > a HUGE demand for it so most people wont mind it being buggy >> > > > > as long these high load times are fixed. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > ___ >> > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > > > > archives, please visit: >> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >___ >> > > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >> > list archives, >> > > >please visit: >> > > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > >> > > >> _ >> > > MSN Zoeken helpt je om de gekste dingen te vinden! >> > http://search.msn.nl >> > > >> > > >> > > ___ >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the >> > list archives, please visit: >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > archives, please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > >> >>___ >>To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>please visit: >>http://li
RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
Bah...with all the bitching that goes on here, one might be led to believe people actually PAID for the HLDS software. Valve ought to go the way of sendmail. Have a free engine with no support and a paid engine with better support, options and features. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds Might as well, this whole steam thing is like an on-going beta test anyways lol... :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Kercher Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds Why? So everyone can complain that it wasn't tested thoroughly enough? Cut them some slack and let them work! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds wow that figures... just go release the crap already lol. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erik Johnson Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds We still have a bit of testing to do, this isn't going to happen today. Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wouter v/d Bergh Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds My hero :) >From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds >Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:50:51 -0800 > >The plan is to release it today along with some other changes (which >will be posted on www.steampowered.com a couple hours before the >release). > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Marcelo Bezerra > > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:26 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds > > > > Will it be released today, or it is not tested enough yet? :) > > > > On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 18:22, wouter v/d Bergh wrote: > > > "probably this Wednesday." > > > > > > I will thank you on my knees for that! > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds > > > >Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:16:25 -0800 > > > > > > > >We will release it within the next couple of weeks (probably this > > > >Wednesday). > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Frash > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 6:41 AM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds > > > > > > > > > > Alfred, > > > > > The optimalisations you did sound great, on Aztec such a small > > > > > load for such a slow CPU. > > > > > I would love to test it aswell, can you release the .so file > > > > > unofficially or will you wait until the next release? There is > > > > > a HUGE demand for it so most people wont mind it being buggy > > > > > as long these high load times are fixed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > > > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > list archives, > > > >please visit: > > > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > _ > > > MSN Zoeken helpt je om de gekste dingen te vinden! > > http://search.msn.nl > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > list archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > >___ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >please visit: >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _ Hotmail en Messenger on the move http://www.msn.nl/communicatie/smsdienste
AW: [hlds_linux] cpu usage - Alfreds Optimizations?
That sounds good. N1. Which compiler do you use for the project? GCC? -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Alfred Reynolds Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2004 20:23 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: RE: [hlds_linux] cpu usage - Alfreds Optimizations? I simply profiled the server using oprofile (oprofile.sf.net) and got a couple other people to do the same (on P4's) and then found ways to remove the most called items from the profile (mainly by refactoring the algorithms to go from O(n) or O(n^2) to O(1)). - Alfred > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kenny > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 9:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] cpu usage - Alfreds Optimizations? > > Then can we ask what optimizations you are using alfred? > > Right now with a full server I am getting 80 fps > ticrate 1000 > hz = 1000 > > How did alfreds server play with an avg 50 ping? I never got > a chance to > play test it. > > Kenny > > - Original Message - > From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 4:19 PM > Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] new cpu usage record? > > > > FPS on the server and client are uncoupled. FPS on the > client controls how > often a screen will render per second (i.e render latency). FPS on the > server determines how many times a second each entity can > "think" (i.e issue > a fire command, move, get killed, and so on). A low FPS on > the server will > NOT effect the FPS on the client. Note that Quake runs at > 20Hz (20FPS) on > the server by default. > > > > Running at 100FPS means you minimise the latency between a > client issuing > a command and the server acting upon it. Also note however > that network > latency will usually dominate over server FPS latency. > > > > You should also take into account the minimum > reaction/perception time of > human beings when trying to determine the FPS right for you > (search google > for "perception latency human" or read > http://www.physiol.ox.ac.uk/~pch/papers/brain_122_2119.pdf. > Common figures > for the latency in visual perception are on the order of > 150msec. 100FPS > means a frame every 10msec (10 times less than the perception > threshold!)). > > > > - Alfred > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux Virus checked by G DATA AntiVirusKit Version: AVK 14.0.324 from 04.02.2004 Virus news: www.antiviruslab.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds
Might as well, this whole steam thing is like an on-going beta test anyways lol... :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Kercher Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds Why? So everyone can complain that it wasn't tested thoroughly enough? Cut them some slack and let them work! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds wow that figures... just go release the crap already lol. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erik Johnson Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 9:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds We still have a bit of testing to do, this isn't going to happen today. Erik -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wouter v/d Bergh Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds My hero :) >From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds >Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:50:51 -0800 > >The plan is to release it today along with some other changes (which >will be posted on www.steampowered.com a couple hours before the >release). > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Marcelo Bezerra > > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 11:26 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds > > > > Will it be released today, or it is not tested enough yet? :) > > > > On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 18:22, wouter v/d Bergh wrote: > > > "probably this Wednesday." > > > > > > I will thank you on my knees for that! > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds > > > >Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 10:16:25 -0800 > > > > > > > >We will release it within the next couple of weeks (probably this > > > >Wednesday). > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Frash > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 6:41 AM > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Subject: [hlds_linux] Message to Alfred Reynolds > > > > > > > > > > Alfred, > > > > > The optimalisations you did sound great, on Aztec such a small > > > > > load for such a slow CPU. > > > > > I would love to test it aswell, can you release the .so file > > > > > unofficially or will you wait until the next release? There is > > > > > a HUGE demand for it so most people wont mind it being buggy > > > > > as long these high load times are fixed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > archives, please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > > > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > list archives, > > > >please visit: > > > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > _ > > > MSN Zoeken helpt je om de gekste dingen te vinden! > > http://search.msn.nl > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > list archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > >___ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >please visit: >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _ Hotmail en Messenger on the move http://www.msn.nl/communicatie/smsdiensten/hotmailsmsv2/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list
[hlds_linux] FPS and CPU
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok Alfred, I see where you want to go But, after 3 years of playing and setting servers for good teams, trust me when i say there is a huge difference between default 50 fps servers and tweaky ones I mean, if you need 3 or 4 times to hit the head to be registred as a headshot, no way of setting a high skill team server. The reason is not really clear for me, as you said the eyes can't see more than 150 ms etc ...But here, i'm not talking of refresh for the eyes, but registred bullets on the hitboxes. Anything lower than 100 fps and there is some "magical bullets" that are shot right in the head and not registred. In fact, if you don't know it, lots of teams DO want a precise server, that feel smooth and registred all bullets they shoot If you got informations about how to handle a precise NET server without being above 100 fps let me know ! i'm intrested !!! Cheers, S.Gault -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] SERIOUS windows to linux head on analysis
I have an amd xp 2100 with 512 mb ram in NY that will hold 1x 16slot 1.6 public and 2x 12slot 1.6 private. Redhat 9, custom compiled kernel. 2.4.20 I could probably do 3 16 slots without any privs on there but that would be pushing it. Although I do know it will do 2x 16 slot easy. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sriram Prakash Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 12:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds_linux] SERIOUS windows to linux head on analysis I was wondering if anyone here has done a head on analysis of a windows 2k3 or 2k machine versus a mandrake linux 9.2 or redhat using the 2.4 kernel and then the 2.6 kernel. The idea would be obviously to recreate exact conditions as they happened to see which box can handle the highest load. Both linux kernels would be custom compiled and NOT RUN x-windows to get the best possible scenario. My honest guess is that mandrake or gentoo, just one of the linux distros would probably have the highest players on the 2.6 kernel, if using the boot times between the two kernels has an effect on anything. My question for this is simple, I have a box that I am going to colo with the specs: AMD 3000+ 400 mhz fsb 1.5 GB ddr400 pc3200 built in 10/100 ethernet two 80 gb hard drives raid 0 those are the most important specs I guess, I wanted to know stacking as many HL servers on it as possible how much I could get. I think it has already been established on this list AMD performs better. I was hoping to get 2 18 player servers and 2 26 player servers with this for a total of 88 players and right now I feel i must unfortunately let go of linux. But before I do I wanted to make sure windows could make it happen. Any non bias opinions would be helpful, or results from people with similar machines if you havent tried this experiment yourself. Thanks Sriram Prakash _ Check out the new MSN 9 Dial-up fast & reliable Internet access with prime features! http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=dialup/home&ST=1 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
