Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 05:55 +0200, Telepath wrote: > Andrew Forsberg schrieb: > > only problem is that if they're installed at a net cafe, then > > removed, the cvars stick around on the shared machine. > > Then u have wrong admin on ur netcafe. Sorry for replying off list this morning. I was having a hard time with a weird webmail program via a handheld device... Groan. Short version: I don't own a netcafe. I was meaning the crappy netcafes that don't use drive mirroring (or better) systems to keep the machines clean. > > > It automatically perm bans people, and logs their offense, if > > they have those cvars. > > U misunderstand. > Banning ppl by cvar outdated. Please elaborate. These cheats are still in use, and still identifiable by the cvars. The cvars hang around even if the cheat isn't currently in use, but there's no reason for them to be on an account unless they have been using the cheats at some stage. Quite frankly, that's good enough for me. They may have removed the other cheat due to a hack upgrade, or change of cheat program. I don't care. :-) I've changed my mind about publishing the source code on the hlds_linux list -- but will email it to anyone who is interested. Mail me offlist. I know it's not that hard to find info on the cheats with google, but, still... fewer references to it the better for those of us who are trying to get rid of its users. btw: these are cs 1.6 cheats, not cs source cheats. i'm not quite sure how come we're discussing them in this thread. Cheers ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Check www.sharedbans.com they are doing a good job banning cheaters. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats
W0kk3L, good at least you have a system that doesnt ban on a whim, and punkbuster, good idea, but requires client side install, and not everyone will agree to that, but still a good product. What I actually mean is a server-side program that GSPs can purchase that will include updates once you subscribe. If EVERYONE went with a punkbuster style prog, it would be ok I guess, but I have to think that if the prog depends on the clients co-operation, that hackers could still find a way to disguise the hacks from the punkbuster search. Not sure of the actual details, but even if you kept the hacks on a removable drive and then executed them after you joined the server? I might be completely off about that, but it sure seems like it wouldnt be too hard to modify the client side of the prog if you were good enough to evade other anticheat programs. - Original Message - From: "Rikard Bremark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 3:47 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] *cough*PUNKBUSTER!?!?*cough* -- //Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warzone Short Valley - Warzone.nu aprand wrote: And just how do you do that? I'm not even that good and I get acused all the time whenever I get a little lucky or have a few good rounds, or, heaven forbid, use SOUND to tell where someone is! We need someone or some company that can be as dedicated to finding hacks as the punks are that write them, and if it costs something, then PAY them! Do we expect free anti-virus from Microsoft? No! We USUALLY buy a subscription to an AV software and get free updates there after. I for one would be HAPPY to suscribe to an ACTIVE software that invests a sustantial amount of time investigating and defeating hacks. Heck, we still get the speedhackers, and that should be easy to detect, let alone the wallhackers and aimboters. If a few of those that write the hacks would put some effort into breaking them, Im sure there would be enough response to generate income. - Original Message - From: "Rick R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How to get rid of cheaters? Active admins and a policy of "you're guilty once you're accused, until you prove yourself innocent" -Rick R. On 5/18/06, W0kk3L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not actually a wallhack, but a lot of serveradmins use x-spectate to check demos for wallhack. It's not possible to cheat with this tool, but it does help catching cheaters (especially wallhackers). Something else i can advise for catching wallhackers is: ADMIN_ESP (http://www.amxmodx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24787) . This plugin for AMXModX gives (amxx)admins the possibility to use ESP in spectator/dead mode, which helps catching cheaters. I caught several cheaters which i had never seen when spectating without it (random damage shots through walls, and pre-aiming) Remember to switch it off before recording a demo for SteamBans, because they don't accept it as proof (it conflicts with the tools they use for checking, like x-spectate). -W0kk3L- - Original Message - From: "muldy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats > > Actually there should be a option to see opponents behind walls in demos. > > HLTV on cs (i dont know about source ) servers tend to not show the > overview in mp_forcechasecam 1 or 2. > > So this feature of watching demos with a "wall hack" would be very > welcome by servers admins. > > Or watch demos with a wall hack n offline mode... does anyone do this? > > Just my 2 cents. > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 142 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com
Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] *cough*PUNKBUSTER!?!?*cough* -- //Rikard 'Zapy' Bremark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Warzone Short Valley - Warzone.nu aprand wrote: > And just how do you do that? I'm not even that good and I get acused > all the > time whenever I get a little lucky or have a few good rounds, or, heaven > forbid, use SOUND to tell where someone is! We need someone or some > company > that can be as dedicated to finding hacks as the punks are that write > them, > and if it costs something, then PAY them! Do we expect free anti-virus > from > Microsoft? No! We USUALLY buy a subscription to an AV software and get > free > updates there after. I for one would be HAPPY to suscribe to an ACTIVE > software that invests a sustantial amount of time investigating and > defeating hacks. Heck, we still get the speedhackers, and that should be > easy to detect, let alone the wallhackers and aimboters. If a few of > those > that write the hacks would put some effort into breaking them, Im sure > there > would be enough response to generate income. > - Original Message - > From: "Rick R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:39 AM > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats > > >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> How to get rid of cheaters? >> Active admins and a policy of "you're guilty once you're accused, until >> you >> prove yourself innocent" >> >> -Rick R. >> >> On 5/18/06, W0kk3L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Not actually a wallhack, but a lot of serveradmins use x-spectate to >>> check >>> demos for wallhack. It's not possible to cheat with this tool, but it >>> does >>> help catching cheaters (especially wallhackers). >>> >>> Something else i can advise for catching wallhackers is: ADMIN_ESP >>> (http://www.amxmodx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24787) . This plugin for >>> AMXModX gives (amxx)admins the possibility to use ESP in spectator/dead >>> mode, which helps catching cheaters. I caught several cheaters which i >>> had >>> never seen when spectating without it (random damage shots through >>> walls, >>> and pre-aiming) Remember to switch it off before recording a demo for >>> SteamBans, because they don't accept it as proof (it conflicts with the >>> tools they use for checking, like x-spectate). >>> >>> -W0kk3L- >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "muldy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: >>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:30 PM >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats >>> >>> >>> > >>> > Actually there should be a option to see opponents behind walls in >>> demos. >>> > >>> > HLTV on cs (i dont know about source ) servers tend to not show the >>> > overview in mp_forcechasecam 1 or 2. >>> > >>> > So this feature of watching demos with a "wall hack" would be very >>> > welcome by servers admins. >>> > >>> > Or watch demos with a wall hack n offline mode... does anyone do >>> this? >>> > >>> > Just my 2 cents. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ___ >>> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, >>> > please visit: >>> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >> -- >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > -- > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 142 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats
We ask everybody to deliver proof before someone gets banned. So either a demo from a gamer which blatantly proofs he/she is cheating. The demo gets uploaded on our site. Everybody can view those demos, including the cheater. If he finds that the demo is inconclusive (which isn't the case in most of the time) he can request an unban. Another admin takes a look at it. This prevents wrongfully accusing someone. Ofcourse someone can make a mistake and ban someone who didn't cheat, but the cheater can protest against it, and he gets unbanned. All based on the SteamBans plugin (with custom check code). -W0kk3L- - Original Message - From: "aprand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 11:24 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats And just how do you do that? I'm not even that good and I get acused all the time whenever I get a little lucky or have a few good rounds, or, heaven forbid, use SOUND to tell where someone is! We need someone or some company that can be as dedicated to finding hacks as the punks are that write them, and if it costs something, then PAY them! Do we expect free anti-virus from Microsoft? No! We USUALLY buy a subscription to an AV software and get free updates there after. I for one would be HAPPY to suscribe to an ACTIVE software that invests a sustantial amount of time investigating and defeating hacks. Heck, we still get the speedhackers, and that should be easy to detect, let alone the wallhackers and aimboters. If a few of those that write the hacks would put some effort into breaking them, Im sure there would be enough response to generate income. - Original Message - From: "Rick R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] How to get rid of cheaters? Active admins and a policy of "you're guilty once you're accused, until you prove yourself innocent" -Rick R. On 5/18/06, W0kk3L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not actually a wallhack, but a lot of serveradmins use x-spectate to check demos for wallhack. It's not possible to cheat with this tool, but it does help catching cheaters (especially wallhackers). Something else i can advise for catching wallhackers is: ADMIN_ESP (http://www.amxmodx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24787) . This plugin for AMXModX gives (amxx)admins the possibility to use ESP in spectator/dead mode, which helps catching cheaters. I caught several cheaters which i had never seen when spectating without it (random damage shots through walls, and pre-aiming) Remember to switch it off before recording a demo for SteamBans, because they don't accept it as proof (it conflicts with the tools they use for checking, like x-spectate). -W0kk3L- - Original Message - From: "muldy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS Cheats > > Actually there should be a option to see opponents behind walls in demos. > > HLTV on cs (i dont know about source ) servers tend to not show the > overview in mp_forcechasecam 1 or 2. > > So this feature of watching demos with a "wall hack" would be very > welcome by servers admins. > > Or watch demos with a wall hack n offline mode... does anyone do this? > > Just my 2 cents. > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 142 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
