Re: [hlds_linux] finding server through browsing
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, M. Kraaij wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hey, A little question. For some reason our CS and CS:S servers are hard to find through the steambans serverbrowser. One server popped up after 4 times refreshing, but the other server weren't found (we have 11 CS servers and 7 CS:S, and only one CS:S server showed up). What could be wrong? We have only one nic inside each server and no ranges are banned by the firewall.. Any suggestions? -W0kk3L- (serveradmin of http://www.crew-nexus.net) It is mentioned in the forum of steambans. But the sollution is to add 'port 27016' in the server.cfg. (Or the coresponding port for that server) Dont know why it will not work without it. Feels like a programming problem in the plugin, but they will show up when added. At least the hlds servers. There seems to be a problem with the current srcds version (2.5.1) of the steambans. None of my CSS servers shows up and sb_info shows 'L 09/11/2007 - 11:01:39: [SBSRC] Client status: 0 (Error info: 0-0) Pending requests: 431' I just added the CSS servers so I dont know if the 'port X' addition in the server.cfg will work. /Bjorn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Reducing Cheats on Servers
Perhaps do a perlhack that does all that? Like extract all steamid's that comes from the same IP from the logs. if ( steamcount maxallowed ) go through all steamids from that ip and check if any of them are banned for cheating during that time and ban the ip. Not all serveradmins use hlstats. You might even write a amxx/sm plugin that does all that automatically. To go even further you might want to get the ip's and check the ranges and match them to a specific netcafe and ban the whole range. next step might be to write a plugin that checks ipranges against a blacklist. /Bjorn On Sat, 8 Sep 2007, Whisper wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It was just an sql query I got 1 of the db guys to run on the STEAM_ID database On 9/7/07, Stephan Strecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: @whisper Is it possible, that u share your tool for cheching the hlstats-database? Thx steve -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Whisper Gesendet: Freitag, 7. September 2007 14:56 An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] Reducing Cheats on Servers -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] What I personally would like to know is if others are seeing the same pattern we are? I don't know how many of you are setup to do the analysis I asked about, and if you do not have the systems in place, then it suddenly becomes a non-trivial task to work out. On 9/7/07, Dan Offord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] What is really needed then is a project liked SteamBans but, only bans the IP's of cheaters shared between hosts. If they do indeed have multiple ip's then a mass ban via servers would make cafe owners think twice about it all. On 07/09/2007, Crazy Canucks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I think you should ip ban. It's up to the NetCafe operators to make sure cheats aren't being installed and used on their machines. Maybe if they find their clients unable to access servers they will get the hint and start using proper security and policing on their machines... Drek Guy Watkins wrote: } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper } Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:39 AM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; HLDS } Subject: [hlds_linux] Reducing Cheats on Servers } } -- } [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] } The following is only our point of view, your mileage may vary. } } It is becoming increasingly apparent to us that the majority of the cheats } we see on our Counter-Strike:Source servers are coming from NetCafe } Accounts. } } VAC for the most part seems to be working as a deterrent to the majority } of } normal users. I do not have access to VAC banning stats, but for all I } know } it maybe banning boatloads of players. } } The main problem here is, VAC's delayed banning system has no effect } whatsoever on NetCafe Accounts, as it is a simple case for a NetCafe users } to log out of the STEAM account they are using at the NetCafe and then log } back in when they have been banned from a server by an admins and renter } the } server with a new STEAM_ID, and in any case, who cares about being VAC } banned if you effectively have unlimited access to STEAM_ID's that aren't } yours any how? } } Here is the thing though, most Netcafes are connected to the Internet via } Static IP's. } } It is a rather trivial task to go through the logs with a program like } HLStatsX and run a query that generates a list of STEAM_ID's on a per IP } basis. } } Then you check to see which IP's have lots of STEAM_ID's attached to them, } and then you add those IP addresses to your banned_ip.cfg file and run it } at } server start, instant mass reduction of cheats you will see on your } server. } } If you want to be sure, just do a traceroute to the IP in question just to } be sure you are not wiping a college or university out, but most often you } will find that these are not going to have Netcafe accounts associated } with } them anyhow. } } But you can be almost certain that if you see more than 20 STEAM_ID's } originating from the 1 IP address, you have found a NetCafe that is using } your servers. } } Now the problem for Valve, is if lots of Game Server Providers start IP } banning NetCafes from their servers, it instantly devalues Valves NetCafe } program, since the NetCafe users
Re: [hlds_linux] finding server through browsing
Lol, i just noticed that i called it steambans instead of steam! I ment the last :-D -W0kk3L- - Original Message - From: kama [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] finding server through browsing On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, M. Kraaij wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hey, A little question. For some reason our CS and CS:S servers are hard to find through the steambans serverbrowser. One server popped up after 4 times refreshing, but the other server weren't found (we have 11 CS servers and 7 CS:S, and only one CS:S server showed up). What could be wrong? We have only one nic inside each server and no ranges are banned by the firewall.. Any suggestions? -W0kk3L- (serveradmin of http://www.crew-nexus.net) It is mentioned in the forum of steambans. But the sollution is to add 'port 27016' in the server.cfg. (Or the coresponding port for that server) Dont know why it will not work without it. Feels like a programming problem in the plugin, but they will show up when added. At least the hlds servers. There seems to be a problem with the current srcds version (2.5.1) of the steambans. None of my CSS servers shows up and sb_info shows 'L 09/11/2007 - 11:01:39: [SBSRC] Client status: 0 (Error info: 0-0) Pending requests: 431' I just added the CSS servers so I dont know if the 'port X' addition in the server.cfg will work. /Bjorn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Netgraph: INs-value much higher than OUTs
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi all, since few weeks I experience much higher values of the INs compared to the OUTs (packages or whatever) and I think that this has a negative impact on the gameplay/performance. I guess both values, INs and OUTs, should be very similar usualy, right? If so, what can I do to fix this? Server: CS:S, Linux, dual Opteron, 2 Gig RAM Thanks, Alex -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Netgraph: INs-value much higher than OUTs
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Are you referring to client side or server side? If client, your out is limited by your fps. If server, is your maxrate set high enough? Do you have enough bandwidth to support the server? Could you give an example output of the rcon stats? Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi all, since few weeks I experience much higher values of the INs compared to the OUTs (packages or whatever) and I think that this has a negative impact on the gameplay/performance. I guess both values, INs and OUTs, should be very similar usualy, right? If so, what can I do to fix this? Server: CS:S, Linux, dual Opteron, 2 Gig RAM Thanks, Alex -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Netgraph: INs-value much higher than OUTs
My source servers is having 210 outgoing and about 75 in (kilo bytes per second) and that isnt anything odd ! Peter - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:50 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] Netgraph: INs-value much higher than OUTs This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi all, since few weeks I experience much higher values of the INs compared to the OUTs (packages or whatever) and I think that this has a negative impact on the gameplay/performance. I guess both values, INs and OUTs, should be very similar usualy, right? If so, what can I do to fix this? Server: CS:S, Linux, dual Opteron, 2 Gig RAM Thanks, Alex -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
