[hlds_linux] TF2 server crashes

[Ronny Schedel]

Hello,

we see alot of server crashes recently, sv_logflush is set to 1, the last
log line of the crashes shows engine errors:


L 07/09/2012 - 20:58:55: "kingkool<43>" changed
role to "soldier"
L 07/09/2012 - 20:58:55: Engine error: Model
models/weapons/c_models/c_blackbox/c_blackbox.mdl not found and
models/error.mdl couldn't be loaded




L 07/09/2012 - 21:02:18: "[sex] Skapuppe<23>"
changed role to "soldier"
L 07/09/2012 - 21:02:18: Engine error: Model
models/weapons/c_models/c_liberty_launcher/c_liberty_launcher.mdl not
found and models/error.mdl couldn't be loaded




L 07/09/2012 - 21:06:18: "Cloud strife<17>"
changed role to "sniper"
L 07/09/2012 - 21:06:18: Engine error: Model
models/player/items/all_class/all_domination_sniper.mdl not found and
models/error.mdl couldn't be loaded


The mentioned files are all present, the server is up to date.

Best regards

Ronny Schedel


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Re: [hlds_linux] Recent CPU Spikes

[Russell Smith]

Tried running the server without SourceMod and still had the same 
issue.  Time for a clean install..


On 7/9/2012 10:45 PM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:

I'm seeing the same kind of thing under CS:S. My guess is memory corruption.

Thanks,
Kyle.



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Re: [hlds_linux] OS

[Ook]

Because it works and I don't have the time (read: too lazy) to move to 
and configure a native linux ftp server. I've used bpftp for many years, 
and this is one of the few cases where a usable gui really comes in 
handy - when they created bpftp, they did a bang up job on the gui, and 
since it works fine with wine I'm not motivated to move it to linux 
native anytime soon. I may take it down - I don't really use it anymore 
and all I get these days is google bots and sarcaxxo scans.


OP4 under Linux tends to eat cpu if you have a slower machine, but now 
I'm using a 4 core machine and have cpu to spare for what I'm doing.


I seem to be getting lazy in my old ageten years ago I was running 
my OP4 server on a 450MHz PIII? That sounds about right, or maybe it 
was the newer 800MHz machine. Not a lot of horsepower to spare, not much 
memory, and you have to anguish over anything that even thinks of eating 
memory or cpu. Today, phht, who cares, so what if we max out a core or 
two, we have a couple more that we weren't hardly using anyhow, and we 
can always slap in another GB of ram...



On 07/09/2012 04:06 PM, Andre Müller wrote:

Why are you using a Win-FTP-Server on linux?

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Re: [hlds_linux] OS

[Kyle Sanderson]

Totally. If you're writing server plugins, Linux is the way to go. Linux
performance has gotten better, but still hasn't come to par with Windows.
Or so is the case with SRCDS, I haven't run goldsrc in a 'official'
capacity for a couple years now.

Thanks,
Kyle.

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Steven Sumichrast wrote:

> I think the general opinion has been that goldsource and source have
> slightly better performance on Windows.  That being said, I'm getting
> significant return on my "free" investment in Debian boxes.
>
> Gentoo is nice, but to me all the work in customizing the kernel and
> reading/learning about the kernel... It's good to do when you want to
> learn about Linux, but I want my box to run without issue all the
> time, and Gentoo just requires you to know "too much" about what
> you're doing, IMO.  I'd rather just stand the kernel up and move on.
> The little extra performance I'm going to squeeze out with Gentoo
> isn't worth my time (especially since game servers just cost me money
> to run!)
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Collin Howard  wrote:
> > Thank you for the replies guys, i have been using centos 5.x for past 2
> years but getting tired of segmentation faults. I have used gentoo before
> on a box and have a small amount of experience with it. Im thinking about
> officially moving to gentoo. Also whats your opinions on using windows if
> you are specifically running gldsrc games such as cs1.6? From what I have
> heard its better optimized for windows and therefore gives better
> performance?
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: Ook 
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list <
> hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com>
> > Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 3:45:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] OS
> >
> > Slackware 13.37 64 bit with the 3.3.7 kernel. Rock solid. Gets the job
> done. Not really for the linux newbies, as it doesn't do much hand-holding.
> Slackware is a basic distro without a lot of gui bells and whistles. I used
> to use Windows 2000, but got tired of the regular BSODs everytime I passed
> gas or a flock of cosmic rays blew by. Replaced Win2000 with linux, hasn't
> gone down once. Even the X server is surprisingly stable, the current
> version of xfce is lean and bloat free and more important, very stable.
> >
> > I run xfce because I use bpftp for my ftp server, and it is a windows
> program. Works great via wine. Everything else I've converted from their
> Windows equivalents to native linux apps. 3GB on the box, two OP4 servers,
> one minecraft server, one ftp server via wine, apache, noip, and it's
> currently using 1.5GB and 5% cpu (older Phenom four core cpu, one of the
> slower ones).
> >
> >
> >
> > On 07/08/2012 07:12 PM, Collin Howard wrote:
> >> Is Gentoo a good distro for goldsrc HLDS? What distro's do you server
> ops use and recommend? I'm not looking for a OS battle here. Just a simple
> answer with a small explanation why. :)
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Re: [hlds_linux] Recent CPU Spikes

[Kyle Sanderson]

I'm seeing the same kind of thing under CS:S. My guess is memory corruption.

Thanks,
Kyle.

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Russell Smith wrote:

> I haven't been able to catch anything in the console yet, but I will
> continue to try.
>
> Yes, replays are enabled with nginx running on the same machine.
>
>
> On 09.07.2012 17:32, Cameron Munroe wrote:
>
>> Yeah probably not sprays then, best I can say is just watch the
>> server console and see what happens when lag occurs, I would also
>> suggest running the stats command when you feel it lurch and check the
>> FPS. could be that simply the server can't handle that many users with
>> all the new stuff in the pyro update, or that it is looking for
>> something.
>>
>> Replays enabled on your server?
>>
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] OS

[Craig H]

Ubuntu 10.4, since I've been told it is what Valve uses (so probably less
likely to break) using XFCE for the desktop environment. Recently moved to
it after Windows was no longer an option, no problems to report so far, but
honestly the server has never been stressed or used for anything other than
testing simple scripts.
On Jul 9, 2012 5:30 PM, "Collin Howard"  wrote:

> Thank you for the replies guys, i have been using centos 5.x for past 2
> years but getting tired of segmentation faults. I have used gentoo before
> on a box and have a small amount of experience with it. Im thinking about
> officially moving to gentoo. Also whats your opinions on using windows if
> you are specifically running gldsrc games such as cs1.6? From what I have
> heard its better optimized for windows and therefore gives better
> performance?
>
>
>
> 
>  From: Ook 
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list <
> hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 3:45:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] OS
>
> Slackware 13.37 64 bit with the 3.3.7 kernel. Rock solid. Gets the job
> done. Not really for the linux newbies, as it doesn't do much hand-holding.
> Slackware is a basic distro without a lot of gui bells and whistles. I used
> to use Windows 2000, but got tired of the regular BSODs everytime I passed
> gas or a flock of cosmic rays blew by. Replaced Win2000 with linux, hasn't
> gone down once. Even the X server is surprisingly stable, the current
> version of xfce is lean and bloat free and more important, very stable.
>
> I run xfce because I use bpftp for my ftp server, and it is a windows
> program. Works great via wine. Everything else I've converted from their
> Windows equivalents to native linux apps. 3GB on the box, two OP4 servers,
> one minecraft server, one ftp server via wine, apache, noip, and it's
> currently using 1.5GB and 5% cpu (older Phenom four core cpu, one of the
> slower ones).
>
>
>
> On 07/08/2012 07:12 PM, Collin Howard wrote:
> > Is Gentoo a good distro for goldsrc HLDS? What distro's do you server
> ops use and recommend? I'm not looking for a OS battle here. Just a simple
> answer with a small explanation why. :)
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Re: [hlds_linux] OS

[Steven Sumichrast]

I think the general opinion has been that goldsource and source have
slightly better performance on Windows.  That being said, I'm getting
significant return on my "free" investment in Debian boxes.

Gentoo is nice, but to me all the work in customizing the kernel and
reading/learning about the kernel... It's good to do when you want to
learn about Linux, but I want my box to run without issue all the
time, and Gentoo just requires you to know "too much" about what
you're doing, IMO.  I'd rather just stand the kernel up and move on.
The little extra performance I'm going to squeeze out with Gentoo
isn't worth my time (especially since game servers just cost me money
to run!)

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Collin Howard  wrote:
> Thank you for the replies guys, i have been using centos 5.x for past 2 years 
> but getting tired of segmentation faults. I have used gentoo before on a box 
> and have a small amount of experience with it. Im thinking about officially 
> moving to gentoo. Also whats your opinions on using windows if you are 
> specifically running gldsrc games such as cs1.6? From what I have heard its 
> better optimized for windows and therefore gives better performance?
>
>
>
> 
>  From: Ook 
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
> 
> Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 3:45:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] OS
>
> Slackware 13.37 64 bit with the 3.3.7 kernel. Rock solid. Gets the job done. 
> Not really for the linux newbies, as it doesn't do much hand-holding. 
> Slackware is a basic distro without a lot of gui bells and whistles. I used 
> to use Windows 2000, but got tired of the regular BSODs everytime I passed 
> gas or a flock of cosmic rays blew by. Replaced Win2000 with linux, hasn't 
> gone down once. Even the X server is surprisingly stable, the current version 
> of xfce is lean and bloat free and more important, very stable.
>
> I run xfce because I use bpftp for my ftp server, and it is a windows 
> program. Works great via wine. Everything else I've converted from their 
> Windows equivalents to native linux apps. 3GB on the box, two OP4 servers, 
> one minecraft server, one ftp server via wine, apache, noip, and it's 
> currently using 1.5GB and 5% cpu (older Phenom four core cpu, one of the 
> slower ones).
>
>
>
> On 07/08/2012 07:12 PM, Collin Howard wrote:
>> Is Gentoo a good distro for goldsrc HLDS? What distro's do you server ops 
>> use and recommend? I'm not looking for a OS battle here. Just a simple 
>> answer with a small explanation why. :)
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Re: [hlds_linux] Recent CPU Spikes

[Russell Smith]

I haven't been able to catch anything in the console yet, but I will 
continue to try.


Yes, replays are enabled with nginx running on the same machine.

On 09.07.2012 17:32, Cameron Munroe wrote:

Yeah probably not sprays then, best I can say is just watch the
server console and see what happens when lag occurs, I would also
suggest running the stats command when you feel it lurch and check 
the
FPS. could be that simply the server can't handle that many users 
with

all the new stuff in the pyro update, or that it is looking for
something.

Replays enabled on your server?



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Re: [hlds_linux] Recent CPU Spikes

[Cameron Munroe]

Yeah probably not sprays then, best I can say is just watch the server 
console and see what happens when lag occurs, I would also suggest 
running the stats command when you feel it lurch and check the FPS. 
could be that simply the server can't handle that many users with all 
the new stuff in the pyro update, or that it is looking for something.


Replays enabled on your server?

On 7/9/2012 5:26 PM, Russell Smith wrote:
My quick play server is usually full 16+ hours a day. I will certainly 
try upping the frequency at which I delete the sprays, but I don't 
think it's the issue as the lag spikes aren't occurring when a player 
joins.


On 09.07.2012 17:19, Cameron Munroe wrote:

How much traffic would you say hits your servers, as how tf2 works is
that it has to look through all those spray files everytime someone
logs in, so if you have a lot of people connecting you might have to
increase the number of times the batch runs to clean out the files.
Currently mine is half day.. My suggestion is get on your server and
play and see when the lag occurs while watching the console.

"though not sure if you are running a tf2 server."



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Re: [hlds_linux] OS

[Collin Howard]

Thank you for the replies guys, i have been using centos 5.x for past 2 years 
but getting tired of segmentation faults. I have used gentoo before on a box 
and have a small amount of experience with it. Im thinking about officially 
moving to gentoo. Also whats your opinions on using windows if you are 
specifically running gldsrc games such as cs1.6? From what I have heard its 
better optimized for windows and therefore gives better performance?




 From: Ook 
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
 
Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 3:45:37 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] OS
 
Slackware 13.37 64 bit with the 3.3.7 kernel. Rock solid. Gets the job done. 
Not really for the linux newbies, as it doesn't do much hand-holding. Slackware 
is a basic distro without a lot of gui bells and whistles. I used to use 
Windows 2000, but got tired of the regular BSODs everytime I passed gas or a 
flock of cosmic rays blew by. Replaced Win2000 with linux, hasn't gone down 
once. Even the X server is surprisingly stable, the current version of xfce is 
lean and bloat free and more important, very stable.

I run xfce because I use bpftp for my ftp server, and it is a windows program. 
Works great via wine. Everything else I've converted from their Windows 
equivalents to native linux apps. 3GB on the box, two OP4 servers, one 
minecraft server, one ftp server via wine, apache, noip, and it's currently 
using 1.5GB and 5% cpu (older Phenom four core cpu, one of the slower ones).



On 07/08/2012 07:12 PM, Collin Howard wrote:
> Is Gentoo a good distro for goldsrc HLDS? What distro's do you server ops use 
> and recommend? I'm not looking for a OS battle here. Just a simple answer 
> with a small explanation why. :)
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Re: [hlds_linux] Recent CPU Spikes

[Russell Smith]

My quick play server is usually full 16+ hours a day.  I will certainly 
try upping the frequency at which I delete the sprays, but I don't think 
it's the issue as the lag spikes aren't occurring when a player joins.


On 09.07.2012 17:19, Cameron Munroe wrote:

How much traffic would you say hits your servers, as how tf2 works is
that it has to look through all those spray files everytime someone
logs in, so if you have a lot of people connecting you might have to
increase the number of times the batch runs to clean out the files.
Currently mine is half day.. My suggestion is get on your server and
play and see when the lag occurs while watching the console.

"though not sure if you are running a tf2 server."



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Re: [hlds_linux] Recent CPU Spikes

[Cameron Munroe]

How much traffic would you say hits your servers, as how tf2 works is 
that it has to look through all those spray files everytime someone logs 
in, so if you have a lot of people connecting you might have to increase 
the number of times the batch runs to clean out the files. Currently 
mine is half day.. My suggestion is get on your server and play and see 
when the lag occurs while watching the console.


"though not sure if you are running a tf2 server."


On 7/9/2012 5:04 PM, ve...@tinylittlerobots.us wrote:
Yes, sprays are enabled.  Erik mentioned this in his reply earlier.  
As I said I have a daily job set to clean these up, so there is no 
build up.


I should mention since I haven't, I have two separate non-forked srcds 
installations that both are having this same issue.


On 09.07.2012 16:47, Cameron Munroe wrote:

Do you have sprays enabled?

Go into your server to the downloads folder and see if you have a
bunch of .dat files. If it is over 1000 that might be your problem.


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Re: [hlds_linux] Recent CPU Spikes

[DontWannaName!]

I too am seeing spikes to 100 percent CPU on windows on core 0 and other cores 
being used at the same time. I have no affinity set.

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Jul 9, 2012, at 5:04 PM, ve...@tinylittlerobots.us wrote:

> Yes, sprays are enabled.  Erik mentioned this in his reply earlier.  As I 
> said I have a daily job set to clean these up, so there is no build up.
> 
> I should mention since I haven't, I have two separate non-forked srcds 
> installations that both are having this same issue.
> 
> On 09.07.2012 16:47, Cameron Munroe wrote:
>> Do you have sprays enabled?
>> 
>> Go into your server to the downloads folder and see if you have a
>> bunch of .dat files. If it is over 1000 that might be your problem.
> 
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Re: [hlds_linux] Recent CPU Spikes

[velsk]

Yes, sprays are enabled.  Erik mentioned this in his reply earlier.  As 
I said I have a daily job set to clean these up, so there is no build 
up.


I should mention since I haven't, I have two separate non-forked srcds 
installations that both are having this same issue.


On 09.07.2012 16:47, Cameron Munroe wrote:

Do you have sprays enabled?

Go into your server to the downloads folder and see if you have a
bunch of .dat files. If it is over 1000 that might be your problem.


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Re: [hlds_linux] Recent CPU Spikes

[Cameron Munroe]

Do you have sprays enabled?

Go into your server to the downloads folder and see if you have a bunch 
of .dat files. If it is over 1000 that might be your problem.




On 7/9/2012 4:23 PM, ve...@tinylittlerobots.us wrote:
Your server crashes might be related as I have noticed some random 
crashes as well.  However, the issue I'm asking about is where the 
server doesn't crash.  I am having an issue where srcds is taking up 
100% utilization of a core for a duration in the range of a fraction 
of a second to nearly 10 seconds, at which point the server recovers.  
Everyone in game locks in place until the CPU usage stabilizes.


For longer spikes players will get disconnected and these show up as 
STEAMAUTH errors in the logs.


On 09.07.2012 16:12, Sam White wrote:

I found out that I do actually have access to CPU load info - and I can
also confirm that CPU levels spike before the server crashes.

Running sourcemod 1.5.0, one of the nightly releases-  whichever 
Multiplay

have on their system.



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Re: [hlds_linux] Recent CPU Spikes

[Sam White]

That sounds exactly the same as my "crashes" I'm having on Multiplay (they
might not actually be crashes and more long freezes now that I think of it,
and I also get the steamauth kicks sometimes). I also suffered the same
issue on an older TF2 server which I ran on a Xen VPS - until about a week
ago - the entire VPS froze for anywhere between 10 seconds and a few
minutes, and when it stopped freezing htop showed the CPU usage of TF2
through the roof, with load averages going above 10. Players with a high
enough cl_timeout would remain connected.

The old server was using the most recent stable version of SourceMod;
whereas the new one is using a 1.5.0 dev build.

Perhaps it could be a dodgy plugin that we both use - however I doubt it.

On 10 July 2012 00:23,  wrote:

> Your server crashes might be related as I have noticed some random crashes
> as well.  However, the issue I'm asking about is where the server doesn't
> crash.  I am having an issue where srcds is taking up 100% utilization of a
> core for a duration in the range of a fraction of a second to nearly 10
> seconds, at which point the server recovers.  Everyone in game locks in
> place until the CPU usage stabilizes.
>
> For longer spikes players will get disconnected and these show up as
> STEAMAUTH errors in the logs.
>
>
> On 09.07.2012 16:12, Sam White wrote:
>
>> I found out that I do actually have access to CPU load info - and I can
>> also confirm that CPU levels spike before the server crashes.
>>
>> Running sourcemod 1.5.0, one of the nightly releases-  whichever Multiplay
>> have on their system.
>>
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Recent CPU Spikes

[velsk]

Your server crashes might be related as I have noticed some random 
crashes as well.  However, the issue I'm asking about is where the 
server doesn't crash.  I am having an issue where srcds is taking up 
100% utilization of a core for a duration in the range of a fraction of 
a second to nearly 10 seconds, at which point the server recovers.  
Everyone in game locks in place until the CPU usage stabilizes.


For longer spikes players will get disconnected and these show up as 
STEAMAUTH errors in the logs.


On 09.07.2012 16:12, Sam White wrote:
I found out that I do actually have access to CPU load info - and I 
can

also confirm that CPU levels spike before the server crashes.

Running sourcemod 1.5.0, one of the nightly releases-  whichever 
Multiplay

have on their system.



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Re: [hlds_linux] Recent CPU Spikes

[Sam White]

I found out that I do actually have access to CPU load info - and I can
also confirm that CPU levels spike before the server crashes.

Running sourcemod 1.5.0, one of the nightly releases-  whichever Multiplay
have on their system.

On 9 July 2012 23:21,  wrote:

> I have replay running on a local instance of nginx because of the remote
> replay server issues.  I also have jobs set to clear out those folders
> daily so I don't think that's the cause.
>
>
> On 09.07.2012 14:38, Erik-jan Riemers wrote:
>
>> Only spikes (large timeout) i get is when the replay server goes poof..
>>
>> Also check:
>>
>>  GAME/addons/sourcemod/logs/"
>>  GAME/downloads/"
>>  GAME/logs/"
>>  GAME/replay/server/"
>>
>> And cleanup a bit if it's a lot of files too.
>>
>> I do see some servers crashes these days, but it is still in line roughly
>> with the amount of crashes we had before the big update.
>>
>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] OS

[Andre Müller]

Why are you using a Win-FTP-Server on linux?

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Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

[Fletcher Dunn]

Should start listing without a reboot.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Violent Crimes
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:16 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

Do the servers need to be restarted or should they be good without it?

On 7/9/2012 2:33 PM, Fletcher Dunn wrote:
> This should be resolved now.
>
> My apologies.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of feugatos
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 3:53 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list
>
> On Δευτέρα, 9 Ιούλιος 2012 12:26:18 πμ, Fletcher Dunn wrote:
>> Hi Dimitri,
>>
>> I'm trying to mail you directly about this, but your spam filter is blocking 
>> me.
>>
>> Please email me directly, ideally from another email address that I will be 
>> able to reply to.
>>
>> - Fletch
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
>> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of feugatos
>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:55 AM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>> Subject: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I'm trying to setup a Zombie Panic! Source server. The server seams to 
>> connect to the Steam Master Servers and it is VAC secured, but for some 
>> weird reason I can't find it in the Steam server list. Actually I can't find 
>> any mod server in the server list. Is there a problem with it? Should I 
>> change any config to make it show up?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Dimitri
>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Recent CPU Spikes

[velsk]

I have replay running on a local instance of nginx because of the 
remote replay server issues.  I also have jobs set to clear out those 
folders daily so I don't think that's the cause.


On 09.07.2012 14:38, Erik-jan Riemers wrote:
Only spikes (large timeout) i get is when the replay server goes 
poof..


Also check:

 GAME/addons/sourcemod/logs/"
 GAME/downloads/"
 GAME/logs/"
 GAME/replay/server/"

And cleanup a bit if it's a lot of files too.

I do see some servers crashes these days, but it is still in line 
roughly

with the amount of crashes we had before the big update.



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Re: [hlds_linux] Recent CPU Spikes

[Erik-jan Riemers]

Only spikes (large timeout) i get is when the replay server goes poof..

Also check:

 GAME/addons/sourcemod/logs/"
 GAME/downloads/"
 GAME/logs/"
 GAME/replay/server/"

And cleanup a bit if it's a lot of files too.

I do see some servers crashes these days, but it is still in line roughly
with the amount of crashes we had before the big update.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
ve...@tinylittlerobots.us
Sent: maandag 9 juli 2012 23:35
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] Recent CPU Spikes

Has anyone else recently run into the issue of massive CPU spikes?  I have
been getting complaints of lag from my users recently and when
investigating the cause I spotted that the main srcds thread is randomly
spiking to 100% usage in the middle of matches which is causing lag spikes
for all players in game.  Sometimes they last a fraction of a second,
sometimes several seconds.  This has only been an issue since the latest
update.

I've tried different versions of SourceMod: the latest 1.5 snapshots,
1.4.4 stable, 1.4.5 snapshots, as well as the latest SDKHooks snapshots
and disabling SDKHooks entirely.  I haven't tried disabling SM outright
yet, as that is always the last resort.  I'm curious if anyone else is
running into this or if it's just me.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Recent CPU Spikes

[Sam White]

My server host, Multiplay, has told me that the latest update has broken
Sourcemod quite a bit, and lots of servers - including mine - have been
crashing a lot recently. I'm not sure if CPU spikes are to blame because as
a customer I don't have access to that kind of info., but the issue
definitely sounds similar.

On 9 July 2012 22:34,  wrote:

> Has anyone else recently run into the issue of massive CPU spikes?  I have
> been getting complaints of lag from my users recently and when
> investigating the cause I spotted that the main srcds thread is randomly
> spiking to 100% usage in the middle of matches which is causing lag spikes
> for all players in game.  Sometimes they last a fraction of a second,
> sometimes several seconds.  This has only been an issue since the latest
> update.
>
> I've tried different versions of SourceMod: the latest 1.5 snapshots,
> 1.4.4 stable, 1.4.5 snapshots, as well as the latest SDKHooks snapshots and
> disabling SDKHooks entirely.  I haven't tried disabling SM outright yet, as
> that is always the last resort.  I'm curious if anyone else is running into
> this or if it's just me.
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[hlds_linux] Recent CPU Spikes

[velsk]

Has anyone else recently run into the issue of massive CPU spikes?  I 
have been getting complaints of lag from my users recently and when 
investigating the cause I spotted that the main srcds thread is randomly 
spiking to 100% usage in the middle of matches which is causing lag 
spikes for all players in game.  Sometimes they last a fraction of a 
second, sometimes several seconds.  This has only been an issue since 
the latest update.


I've tried different versions of SourceMod: the latest 1.5 snapshots, 
1.4.4 stable, 1.4.5 snapshots, as well as the latest SDKHooks snapshots 
and disabling SDKHooks entirely.  I haven't tried disabling SM outright 
yet, as that is always the last resort.  I'm curious if anyone else is 
running into this or if it's just me.


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Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

[Violent Crimes]

Do the servers need to be restarted or should they be good without it?

On 7/9/2012 2:33 PM, Fletcher Dunn wrote:

This should be resolved now.

My apologies.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of feugatos
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 3:53 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

On Δευτέρα, 9 Ιούλιος 2012 12:26:18 πμ, Fletcher Dunn wrote:

Hi Dimitri,

I'm trying to mail you directly about this, but your spam filter is blocking me.

Please email me directly, ideally from another email address that I will be 
able to reply to.

- Fletch

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:55 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

Hi there,

I'm trying to setup a Zombie Panic! Source server. The server seams to connect 
to the Steam Master Servers and it is VAC secured, but for some weird reason I 
can't find it in the Steam server list. Actually I can't find any mod server in 
the server list. Is there a problem with it? Should I change any config to make 
it show up?

Thanks in advance,
Dimitri

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Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

[Necavi]

Excellent, thank you!

-Original Message-
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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Fletcher Dunn
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 13:30
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

Yes.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Necavi
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 11:59 AM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

Will this be resolved for all mods? (Same issue was reportedly effecting all 
mods, according to the HL Coders mailing list)

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Fletcher Dunn
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 11:34
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

This should be resolved now.

My apologies.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of feugatos
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 3:53 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

On Δευτέρα, 9 Ιούλιος 2012 12:26:18 πμ, Fletcher Dunn wrote:
> Hi Dimitri,
>
> I'm trying to mail you directly about this, but your spam filter is blocking 
> me.
>
> Please email me directly, ideally from another email address that I will be 
> able to reply to.
>
> - Fletch
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of feugatos
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:55 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list
>
> Hi there,
>
> I'm trying to setup a Zombie Panic! Source server. The server seams to 
> connect to the Steam Master Servers and it is VAC secured, but for some weird 
> reason I can't find it in the Steam server list. Actually I can't find any 
> mod server in the server list. Is there a problem with it? Should I change 
> any config to make it show up?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Dimitri
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

[Fletcher Dunn]

Yes.

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Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 11:59 AM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

Will this be resolved for all mods? (Same issue was reportedly effecting all 
mods, according to the HL Coders mailing list)

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Fletcher Dunn
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 11:34
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

This should be resolved now.

My apologies.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of feugatos
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 3:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

On Δευτέρα, 9 Ιούλιος 2012 12:26:18 πμ, Fletcher Dunn wrote:
> Hi Dimitri,
>
> I'm trying to mail you directly about this, but your spam filter is blocking 
> me.
>
> Please email me directly, ideally from another email address that I will be 
> able to reply to.
>
> - Fletch
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of feugatos
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:55 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list
>
> Hi there,
>
> I'm trying to setup a Zombie Panic! Source server. The server seams to 
> connect to the Steam Master Servers and it is VAC secured, but for some weird 
> reason I can't find it in the Steam server list. Actually I can't find any 
> mod server in the server list. Is there a problem with it? Should I change 
> any config to make it show up?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Dimitri
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] OS

[Ook]

Slackware 13.37 64 bit with the 3.3.7 kernel. Rock solid. Gets the job 
done. Not really for the linux newbies, as it doesn't do much 
hand-holding. Slackware is a basic distro without a lot of gui bells and 
whistles. I used to use Windows 2000, but got tired of the regular BSODs 
everytime I passed gas or a flock of cosmic rays blew by. Replaced 
Win2000 with linux, hasn't gone down once. Even the X server is 
surprisingly stable, the current version of xfce is lean and bloat free 
and more important, very stable.


I run xfce because I use bpftp for my ftp server, and it is a windows 
program. Works great via wine. Everything else I've converted from their 
Windows equivalents to native linux apps. 3GB on the box, two OP4 
servers, one minecraft server, one ftp server via wine, apache, noip, 
and it's currently using 1.5GB and 5% cpu (older Phenom four core cpu, 
one of the slower ones).




On 07/08/2012 07:12 PM, Collin Howard wrote:

Is Gentoo a good distro for goldsrc HLDS? What distro's do you server ops use 
and recommend? I'm not looking for a OS battle here. Just a simple answer with 
a small explanation why. :)
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Re: [hlds_linux] Problem launching with custom vphysics

[Matthew McNamara]

Correct.

On 9 July 2012 18:46, Asher Baker  wrote:

> You're using hl2sdk-ob-valve rather than hl2sdk-ob, right?
>
> ~
> "Their heads are green, and their hands are blue,
>   And they went to sea in a Sieve." - Edward Lear
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Matthew McNamara
>  wrote:
> > I'm trying to compile a custom vphysics module for Linux & Mac, and while
> > everything compiles and runs fine under OS X, srcds_linux has been giving
> > me errors every step of the way.
> > It's a community rewrite of vphysics based on Bullet rather than Havok,
> the
> > code is available here: https://github.com/Jcw87/Gmod-vphysics
> >
> > Currently I'm getting this error when starting the server for tf or gmod:
> > "System (MDLCache004) failed during stage CONNECTION"
> > And in case it helps, I'm using GCC 4.6, Bullet 2.80 and the updated OB
> SDK
> > from AlliedMods.
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Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

[Necavi]

Will this be resolved for all mods? (Same issue was reportedly effecting all 
mods, according to the HL Coders mailing list)

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Fletcher Dunn
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 11:34
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

This should be resolved now.

My apologies.

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Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 3:53 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

On Δευτέρα, 9 Ιούλιος 2012 12:26:18 πμ, Fletcher Dunn wrote:
> Hi Dimitri,
>
> I'm trying to mail you directly about this, but your spam filter is blocking 
> me.
>
> Please email me directly, ideally from another email address that I will be 
> able to reply to.
>
> - Fletch
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of feugatos
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:55 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list
>
> Hi there,
>
> I'm trying to setup a Zombie Panic! Source server. The server seams to 
> connect to the Steam Master Servers and it is VAC secured, but for some weird 
> reason I can't find it in the Steam server list. Actually I can't find any 
> mod server in the server list. Is there a problem with it? Should I change 
> any config to make it show up?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Dimitri
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

[Fletcher Dunn]

This should be resolved now.

My apologies.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of feugatos
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 3:53 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list

On Δευτέρα, 9 Ιούλιος 2012 12:26:18 πμ, Fletcher Dunn wrote:
> Hi Dimitri,
>
> I'm trying to mail you directly about this, but your spam filter is blocking 
> me.
>
> Please email me directly, ideally from another email address that I will be 
> able to reply to.
>
> - Fletch
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of feugatos
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 6:55 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: [hlds_linux] No Zombie Panic! Source servers in the server list
>
> Hi there,
>
> I'm trying to setup a Zombie Panic! Source server. The server seams to 
> connect to the Steam Master Servers and it is VAC secured, but for some weird 
> reason I can't find it in the Steam server list. Actually I can't find any 
> mod server in the server list. Is there a problem with it? Should I change 
> any config to make it show up?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Dimitri
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] OS

[doc]

I use Gentoo, I guess it's good but fuck if you're not into linux then
you're going to balk the first time you have to start using -USE flags what
the fuck man. I can't wait to mess it up enough to finally give myself the
motivation to go to Ubuntu.

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 7:15 AM, edman747  wrote:

> I run a few copies of hlds on the following x32 VMs
> Debian 6
> Ubuntu 11.04
> CentOS 5
> Fedora 14
> SUSE 11.4
>
> Plus, two other computers with 12-15 copies of hlds running under
> Debian 6 x86_64
> I like Debian 6 the best for anything from configuring an Ethernet
> interface to installing a development environment and compiling a
> half-life mod, qstat, etc.
>
>
>
> On 7/9/12, Evaldas  wrote:
> > I'm using SUSE Linux Enterprise Server and openSUSE since 9.1. Stable and
> > easy to use.
> > And even with kernel 3.1.10-1.9-default the performance is great.
> >
> > On Mon, 09 Jul 2012 07:57:23 +0300, Kyle Sanderson 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I've used CentOS, Debian, Arch, and Windows 2003/2008. Gentoo is what
> >> I've
> >> stuck with, and it's great. However, as you should know, X is a bad
> idea.
> >> You need to be 'into it' if this is the path you're wanting to take.
> >> Debian
> >> is a lot easier to maintain, and I recommend that if you're wanting to
> >> set
> >> it and leave it for a while.
> >>
> >> Why Gentoo? Pure system performance.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Kyle.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Eli Witt  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ubuntu 10.04 x64 here - Valve uses the same as well for their servers.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Steven Sumichrast  >>> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > I use Debian Squeeze 32 bit for my game servers (all are VMs).  I
> just
> >>> > like their packaging system.  Was on Arch for quite a long time, but
> >>> > didn't care for package updates breaking the system (a little too
> >>> > close to bleeding edge for me).  I do have some other servers runnig
> >>> > on CentOS, but they're not game servers.  I prefer Debian over
> CentOS,
> >>> > but it's just matter of preference to me.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Collin Howard 
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > Is Gentoo a good distro for goldsrc HLDS? What distro's do you
> >>> server
> >>> > ops use and recommend? I'm not looking for a OS battle here. Just a
> >>> simple
> >>> > answer with a small explanation why. :)
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[hlds_linux] [HLDS] Killing Floor Update Soon

[Jared]

We are putting together and update for Killing Floor that will fix 2 
bugs and introduce an updated version of the map Abusement Park 
featuring the locations shown in the Summer Sideshow trailer.  This will 
bring the gave to version number 1036 and is a required update for both 
clients and servers.  We expect it to be ready in approximately: 3 hours


Once again, instructions for updating your servers can be found at the 
Tripwire Wiki: 
http://wiki.tripwireinteractive.com/index.php/Dedicated_Server_%28KillingFloor%29


--
Jared Creasy
Community Relations
Tripwire Interactive


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Re: [hlds_linux] Problem launching with custom vphysics

[Asher Baker]

You're using hl2sdk-ob-valve rather than hl2sdk-ob, right?

~
"Their heads are green, and their hands are blue,
  And they went to sea in a Sieve." - Edward Lear


On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 6:15 PM, Matthew McNamara
 wrote:
> I'm trying to compile a custom vphysics module for Linux & Mac, and while
> everything compiles and runs fine under OS X, srcds_linux has been giving
> me errors every step of the way.
> It's a community rewrite of vphysics based on Bullet rather than Havok, the
> code is available here: https://github.com/Jcw87/Gmod-vphysics
>
> Currently I'm getting this error when starting the server for tf or gmod:
> "System (MDLCache004) failed during stage CONNECTION"
> And in case it helps, I'm using GCC 4.6, Bullet 2.80 and the updated OB SDK
> from AlliedMods.
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[hlds_linux] Problem launching with custom vphysics

[Matthew McNamara]

I'm trying to compile a custom vphysics module for Linux & Mac, and while
everything compiles and runs fine under OS X, srcds_linux has been giving
me errors every step of the way.
It's a community rewrite of vphysics based on Bullet rather than Havok, the
code is available here: https://github.com/Jcw87/Gmod-vphysics

Currently I'm getting this error when starting the server for tf or gmod:
"System (MDLCache004) failed during stage CONNECTION"
And in case it helps, I'm using GCC 4.6, Bullet 2.80 and the updated OB SDK
from AlliedMods.
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Re: [hlds_linux] OS

[edman747]

I run a few copies of hlds on the following x32 VMs
Debian 6
Ubuntu 11.04
CentOS 5
Fedora 14
SUSE 11.4

Plus, two other computers with 12-15 copies of hlds running under
Debian 6 x86_64
I like Debian 6 the best for anything from configuring an Ethernet
interface to installing a development environment and compiling a
half-life mod, qstat, etc.



On 7/9/12, Evaldas  wrote:
> I'm using SUSE Linux Enterprise Server and openSUSE since 9.1. Stable and
> easy to use.
> And even with kernel 3.1.10-1.9-default the performance is great.
>
> On Mon, 09 Jul 2012 07:57:23 +0300, Kyle Sanderson 
> wrote:
>
>> I've used CentOS, Debian, Arch, and Windows 2003/2008. Gentoo is what
>> I've
>> stuck with, and it's great. However, as you should know, X is a bad idea.
>> You need to be 'into it' if this is the path you're wanting to take.
>> Debian
>> is a lot easier to maintain, and I recommend that if you're wanting to
>> set
>> it and leave it for a while.
>>
>> Why Gentoo? Pure system performance.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Kyle.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Eli Witt  wrote:
>>
>>> Ubuntu 10.04 x64 here - Valve uses the same as well for their servers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Steven Sumichrast >> >wrote:
>>>
>>> > I use Debian Squeeze 32 bit for my game servers (all are VMs).  I just
>>> > like their packaging system.  Was on Arch for quite a long time, but
>>> > didn't care for package updates breaking the system (a little too
>>> > close to bleeding edge for me).  I do have some other servers runnig
>>> > on CentOS, but they're not game servers.  I prefer Debian over CentOS,
>>> > but it's just matter of preference to me.
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Collin Howard 
>>> wrote:
>>> > > Is Gentoo a good distro for goldsrc HLDS? What distro's do you
>>> server
>>> > ops use and recommend? I'm not looking for a OS battle here. Just a
>>> simple
>>> > answer with a small explanation why. :)
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