Re: [hlds_linux] New 1.6 Exploit very dangerous!

2012-08-06 Thread Alfred Reynolds
Right, they both require a challenge.

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saul Rennison
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 11:03 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New 1.6 Exploit very dangerous!

Don't A2S_RULES and A2S_PLAYERS require a challenge? That completely breaks
spoofed IP attacks.


Kind regards,
*Saul Rennison*


On 4 August 2012 18:41, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com wrote:

 I'm not sure this is fixed. It's still possible to get the convars of the
 server, right? Then it must still be possible to craft a UDP packet with a
 spoofed sender and that way make the server send a reply to the spoofed IP
 address?

 Best regards
 Oskar Levin
 os...@dataviruset.com

 -Ursprungligt meddelande-
 Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För John
 Skickat: den 4 augusti 2012 19:05
 Till: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] New 1.6 Exploit very dangerous!

 On 8/3/2012 7:50 PM, LocalStrike | Live your game! wrote:
  i read this from a forum and at this time we have the same situation
 here!
  please we need a fix asap!

 Valve fixed this attack in the most recent Goldsrc engine release (July
 31):

 ... This update fixes a potential vulnerability in the challenge/response
 protocol uses for out of band queries (in particular A2S_RULES and
 A2S_PLAYERS responses)... 

 Since it's not a required release, many server operators are not running it
 yet.

 In terms of what you can do to block the reflected attack on your end
 without waiting for others to update, you could use string-based rules that
 look for common cvars that will show in most output, or you could have a
 script that generates a list of IPs to block from tcpdump output and pushes
 that list into an ipset set, to be blocked with a single iptables rule.

 -John

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[hlds_linux] Red Tape Recorder - still crashing?

2012-08-06 Thread Michael Johansen

So I'm wondering if I should keep the new sapper disabled on my servers or 
whether it's safe to re-enable it again, anyone know?.  
   
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Re: [hlds_linux] Red Tape Recorder - still crashing?

2012-08-06 Thread Cameron Munroe
From what I have heard the issue is still there, but I have no idea. My 
servers haven't crashed at all.



On 8/6/2012 1:56 PM, Michael Johansen wrote:

So I'm wondering if I should keep the new sapper disabled on my servers or 
whether it's safe to re-enable it again, anyone know?.  
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] Red Tape Recorder - still crashing?

2012-08-06 Thread Frank
I'm blocking it on my servers still - there was an attempt at fixing it on
that last patch but saw a few more crashes related to it. 

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Johansen
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:57 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] Red Tape Recorder - still crashing?


So I'm wondering if I should keep the new sapper disabled on my servers or
whether it's safe to re-enable it again, anyone know?.

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Re: [hlds_linux] New 1.6 Exploit very dangerous!

2012-08-06 Thread Alfred Reynolds
I dug into a user report of this, they were running a plugin that lets people 
from stolen versions of the game play on servers (dproto), that software has 
(at least one) bug that means you can be attacked. So yeah, be careful the 3rd 
party software you use on a server, and if its job is to let people steal the 
game

- Alfred

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 9:41 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New 1.6 Exploit very dangerous!

Right, they both require a challenge.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saul Rennison
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2012 11:03 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New 1.6 Exploit very dangerous!

Don't A2S_RULES and A2S_PLAYERS require a challenge? That completely breaks
spoofed IP attacks.


Kind regards,
*Saul Rennison*


On 4 August 2012 18:41, Oskar Levin os...@dataviruset.com wrote:

 I'm not sure this is fixed. It's still possible to get the convars of the
 server, right? Then it must still be possible to craft a UDP packet with a
 spoofed sender and that way make the server send a reply to the spoofed IP
 address?

 Best regards
 Oskar Levin
 os...@dataviruset.com

 -Ursprungligt meddelande-
 Från: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] För John
 Skickat: den 4 augusti 2012 19:05
 Till: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Ämne: Re: [hlds_linux] New 1.6 Exploit very dangerous!

 On 8/3/2012 7:50 PM, LocalStrike | Live your game! wrote:
  i read this from a forum and at this time we have the same situation
 here!
  please we need a fix asap!

 Valve fixed this attack in the most recent Goldsrc engine release (July
 31):

 ... This update fixes a potential vulnerability in the challenge/response
 protocol uses for out of band queries (in particular A2S_RULES and
 A2S_PLAYERS responses)... 

 Since it's not a required release, many server operators are not running it
 yet.

 In terms of what you can do to block the reflected attack on your end
 without waiting for others to update, you could use string-based rules that
 look for common cvars that will show in most output, or you could have a
 script that generates a list of IPs to block from tcpdump output and pushes
 that list into an ipset set, to be blocked with a single iptables rule.

 -John

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Re: [hlds_linux] Red Tape Recorder - still crashing?

2012-08-06 Thread doc
I haven't banned it on my server but nobody has attempted it - I know there
are always those bands of roving jerks who will try it on every sever they
can but from what I have seen it's not some rampant problem (yet).

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net wrote:

 I'm blocking it on my servers still - there was an attempt at fixing it on
 that last patch but saw a few more crashes related to it.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Michael
 Johansen
 Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:57 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Red Tape Recorder - still crashing?


 So I'm wondering if I should keep the new sapper disabled on my servers or
 whether it's safe to re-enable it again, anyone know?.

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