Re: [hlds_linux] Re: ;)

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Can you please provide evidence of these allegations?
 Original Message 
On Nov 16, 2020, 3:31 AM, Stephanie d'Arc wrote:

> Good now I have a target list for prosecution of International Harassment.
>
> And no this isn't Stealth.
> But she is definitely one of my friends, and associates.
>
> I live in Switzerland. Stealth lives in the United States.
>
> However, your harassment on these lists is now documented.
>
> I suggest you go speak to your therapists. Before you wind up getting 
> arrested.
>
> For an email list that you do not own. And harassing people on these lists.
>
> Would you like your FBI to visit you? Or Interpol?
> Because I can now make the argument of attempted CYBERBULLYING.
>
> -Stephanie
> International Legal Counsel
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 21:42 Stephanie d'Arc  
> wrote:
>
>> So I see some server admins & owners like to harass people on these lists.
>>
>> Just so you know. Stealth has MANY friends.
>>
>> -Stephanie
>> International Legal Counel
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Re: [hlds_linux] Re: ;)

[Melvyn Depeyrot]

I'm sorry to break this to you, but I don't think they have any.

On Nov 16 2020, at 7:58 am, HH. - int-10h at protonmail.com (via hlds_linux 
list)  wrote:
> Can you please provide evidence of these allegations?
>  Original Message 
> On Nov 16, 2020, 3:31 AM, Stephanie d'Arc < lady.stephanie.d...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Good now I have a target list for prosecution of International Harassment.
> >
> > And no this isn't Stealth.
> > But she is definitely one of my friends, and associates.
> >
> > I live in Switzerland. Stealth lives in the United States.
> >
> > However, your harassment on these lists is now documented.
> >
> > I suggest you go speak to your therapists. Before you wind up getting 
> > arrested.
> >
> > For an email list that you do not own. And harassing people on these lists.
> >
> > Would you like your FBI to visit you? Or Interpol?
> > Because I can now make the argument of attempted CYBERBULLYING.
> >
> > -Stephanie
> > International Legal Counsel
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 15, 2020, 21:42 Stephanie d'Arc  > (mailto:lady.stephanie.d...@gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > So I see some server admins & owners like to harass people on these lists.
> > >
> > > Just so you know. Stealth has MANY friends.
> > >
> > > -Stephanie
> > > International Legal Counel
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [hlds_linux] Re: ;)

[Wave Admin]

> On Nov 16 2020, at 7:58 am, HH. - int-10h at protonmail.com (via
> hlds_linux list)  wrote:
> I'm sorry to break this to you, but I don't think they have any.

On the + side, this is the most interesting the list has been in some time.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Re: ;)

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It's a shame though that it this isn't very hlds_linux related discussion, but 
activity is activity I guess.

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On Nov 16, 2020, 4:13 PM, Wave Admin wrote:

>> On Nov 16 2020, at 7:58 am, HH. - int-10h at protonmail.com (via
>> hlds_linux list)  wrote:
>> I'm sorry to break this to you, but I don't think they have any.
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Re: ;)

[Melvyn Depeyrot]

Man's trying to silence me on personal email. Weird phonetic alphabet subject, 
vague threats, and everthing u'd expect. This guy seems like a full blown edgy 
teenager tbh, and with a power complex at that. have a read:
https://files.catbox.moe/rqvu4s.pdf
On Nov 16 2020, at 8:13 am, Wave Admin  wrote:
>
> > On Nov 16 2020, at 7:58 am, HH. - int-10h at protonmail.com (via
> > hlds_linux list)  wrote:
> > I'm sorry to break this to you, but I don't think they have any.
>
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] ;)

[HurricanePootis]

   Hello hlds_linux gamers. Below I have copy and pasted a uber duper
   monke interaction between me (super chad monke gamer ohehoehoehoeho)
   and smelly virgin stephanin (yukc no monke). Imagine being so
   unmonke that you write bruh in captions with a space like, " bruh."
   If I ever do that unironically (:vommit:) i will literally implode
   and take out the entire monke planet with me. Remember kids, being
   cringe is very unmonke oehho eho hoeho hoe hoeoh eoho ehoe hoeho
   *proceds to fard n shit*



   You came in this late " bruh ".

   I am Dr. StealthMode Hus' Counsel.
   The initial thread was a related on topic thread. Which my client
   then began being cyberbullied / cyberstalked.

   Then I started this thread to let the criminals here know what's up.

   And this is also on topic.  As you will now lose these lists for
   engaging in criminal behavior multiple times, against multiple victims.

   So far as he this is relatedits the list that is being abused
   criminally to cyberbully / cyberstalk people.

   How that is related to the half life dedicated server is that vALVE
   is being sued in World Court for Intellectual Property Theft, and
   when this occurs your precious servers will no longer connect to
   Valve, VAC, nor will any Steam client be allowed to connect.

   Due to theft of the concept, and naming of Steaths' concept " Steam
   ". Valve named it REAKTOR. Ehich is why they will lose this case,
   where others have failed in the past.

   Stealth came here to just let his friends know. To be ready to
   switch products so their server company do not lose business /
   revenue when litigations begin. As the Court will automatically
   enter an Order to suspend use of Steam until the case is resolved.

   Hope that answers your question.

   -Stephanie
   International Legal Counsel


   On Mon, Nov 16, 2020, 10:29 HurricanePootis
   mailto:centralgamer55...@gmail.com>>
   wrote:
   Bruh why are you using an email list for Valve's Half-Life Dedicated
   Server for the GNU/Linux operating System made for x86 PCs. Like
   bruh do
   you got anything better to do with your life like imagine being
   this
   smelly n cringe. You not even monke, bro. >:[

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Re: [hlds_linux] Re: ;)

[Jeremy Lorelli]

>  Man's trying to silence me on personal email. Weird phonetic alphabet
subject, vague threats, and everthing u'd expect. This guy seems like a
full blown edgy teenager tbh, and with a power complex at that. have a read:
Pretty sure they're mentally ill.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 8:25 AM Melvyn Depeyrot 
wrote:

> Man's trying to silence me on personal email. Weird phonetic alphabet
> subject, vague threats, and everthing u'd expect. This guy seems like a
> full blown edgy teenager tbh, and with a power complex at that. have a read:
> https://files.catbox.moe/rqvu4s.pdf
> On Nov 16 2020, at 8:13 am, Wave Admin 
> wrote:
>
>
> On Nov 16 2020, at 7:58 am, HH. - int-10h at protonmail.com (via
> hlds_linux list)  wrote:
> I'm sorry to break this to you, but I don't think they have any.
>
>
> On the + side, this is the most interesting the list has been in some time.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Re: ;)

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Assuming those emails weren't faked (and I have no reason to believe so unless 
evidence to the contrary appears), I believe you are correct. I will still try 
to remain neutral until this potentially legal conflict if Stephanie is 
correct/flamewar if not (which seems more likely, due to given evidence), has 
been resolved, and we can go back to relevant discussion.

 Original Message 
On Nov 16, 2020, 4:24 PM, Melvyn Depeyrot wrote:

> Man's trying to silence me on personal email. Weird phonetic alphabet 
> subject, vague threats, and everthing u'd expect. This guy seems like a full 
> blown edgy teenager tbh, and with a power complex at that. have a read:
> https://files.catbox.moe/rqvu4s.pdf
> On Nov 16 2020, at 8:13 am, Wave Admin  wrote:
>
>>> On Nov 16 2020, at 7:58 am, HH. - int-10h at protonmail.com (via
>>> hlds_linux list)  wrote:
>>> I'm sorry to break this to you, but I don't think they have any.
>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] ;)

[Melvyn Depeyrot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/389102232747900929/777995618148286504/unknown.png
Even their "lawyer" knows that they're not a lawyer.
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Re: [hlds_linux] ;)

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In the UK, the term "legal counsel" is interchangeable with "Attorney", and the 
picture just seems to clear this fact up. However refusing to sit the bar exam 
means that generally that specific person can't serve in a court as a lawyer- 
hence the person isn't an attorney. However they can still do the other 
functions of a lawyer. Whilst the allegations put forward are backed with 
evidence yet to be available to me (I may simply check the archives), and the 
lack of verification of certification from d'Arc does raise validity questions, 
there's nothing at the moment completely "damning" apart from the previous 
mentioned and the questionable formality (but this may just be my own lack of 
perception).

As there is still a lack of evidence from the parties who put forward this 
allegation, I retain my position as of last message, but I will try to remain 
unbiased throughout so this doesn't dissolve into a 2004-esque forum flamewar.
 Original Message 
On Nov 16, 2020, 8:49 PM, Melvyn Depeyrot wrote:

> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/389102232747900929/777995618148286504/unknown.png
> Even their "lawyer" knows that they're not a lawyer.
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Re: [hlds_linux] ;)

[Stephanie d'Arc]

For the persons engaging in criminal conduct on these lists. You are the
reason vALVE is losing their hosting. You are going to prison. And you are
civilly going to be working to pay damages for the rest of your lives. Now
you can say oh no they don't do that. Or this won't happen. That's a
manifestation of the psychosis that is causing you to engage in these
criminal behaviors. XOGNITIVE BRHAVIORAL DISTORTIONS. And to the Orstralian
on this list that is constantly privately messaging me, and Stealth. Sit
tight. Your government was just contacted as well.

You have also committed sexual harassment at this point. By not referring
to the proper gender identifier, HER. And keep stating to cyberstalk by
trying to research info you cannot access. Yeah google Stephanie d'Arc.
There are more than one Stephanie d'Arcs, but my info is not on public
platforms. You cannot access swiss records, nor French records.

Au Revoir

Quote

Cyberbullying is using technology to threaten, harass, embarrass or target
another person. Some of the most common types of cyberbullying include:

   - Threats on online social media
   - Rude texts
   - Mean or negative tweets
   - Posting personal information and/or videos that are intended to hurt
   and embarrass someone

In some cases, cyberbullying actually can be considered a form of
harassment. Intimidation or meanness that focus on your gender, sexual
orientation, race or religion would be considered harassment. No matter if
the bullying is done in person or via the Web, this type of nastiness
qualifies as discrimination and is actually illegal in many states today.
This means that law enforcement can get involved in extreme cases of
cyberbullying, and bullies can face prosecution.

Cyberbullying has unique aspects that differentiate it from other types of
bullying:

   - Persistent: Digital devices allow people to communicate all the time,
   24 hours per day, 7 days per week. It can be hard for children and teens
   who are being bullied to get any relief.
   - Permanent: Most information that is stated online is both public and
   permanent unless specific action is taking to remove it. Having negative
   online items about oneself can lead to negative effects including
   difficulty getting work, getting into college and getting scholarships.
   - Hard to see: Teachers and parents may be unaware of much of the
   bullying that occurs online because it cannot be seen or heard.

In some cases, federal stalking charges
 can
be brought against offenders.


Many states have enacted laws outlawing cyberstalking and cyber harassment.
Also, many states are now enacting laws that explicitly outlaw
cyberbullying. At least 44 states have some laws on cyberbullying.

Different Types of Cyberbullying

There are many types of cyberbullying that can eventually lead to criminal
charges in the worst cases. If you or someone you know engages in these
types of behaviors, a criminal charge is possible:

   - Harassment: The bully sends malicious and offensive messages to a
   person and does so many times. This is a form of cyberstalking in the worst
   cases, and involves constant threatening and rude messages. It can
   eventually lead to physical harassment.
   - Flaming: This activity is similar to harassment. The difference is
   that it is a fight that occurs online that is done via email, texts and
   chat. It is a form of public, online bullying that can lead to very serious
   outcomes with harsh language and images shared about a particular person.
   - Exclusion: This is the act of singling out a person and leaving him or
   her out of an online group or site. The group will then harass the person
   that has been left out of the group.
   - Outing: When a bully shares a person’s personal and private
   information, including images and video in some cases. A person has been
   ‘outed’ if that person’s information is widely available online.
   - Masquerading: This is where the bully creates a false identity to
   harass a person on an anonymous basis. The cyberbully may also impersonate
   another person so to send that person nasty messages in the other person’s
   name.
   - Fraping: When a person logs onto the victim’s social media accounts
   and pretends to be that person. This is a very serious offense that some
   may think is entertaining but it can ruin another person’s reputation.
   Google generally will not forget anything that has been posted even if it
   is deleted so this is a very serious form of cyberbullying.
   - Trolling: This is the intentional act of getting a response online by
   using insults and bad language on social forums and social media sites. It
   is common for the troll to put down the victim and try to make the person
   angry and respond in kind.

Note that some forms of cyberbullying also can be sexual harassment.
Conduct does not need to be specifically sexual to be harassm

[hlds_linux] vALVE loses hosting, provider bans service over criminals using cyberbullying to gang up on list members - news at six

[Stephanie d'Arc]

For the persons engaging in criminal conduct on these lists. You are the
reason vALVE is losing their hosting. You are going to prison. And you are
civilly going to be working to pay damages for the rest of your lives. Now
you can say oh no they don't do that. Or this won't happen. That's a
manifestation of the psychosis that is causing you to engage in these
criminal behaviors. XOGNITIVE BRHAVIORAL DISTORTIONS. And to the Orstralian
on this list that is constantly privately messaging me, and Stealth. Sit
tight. Your government was just contacted as well. EXCLUSION read that
carefully. OUTING read that carefully. HARASSMENT read that carefully.
SEXUAL HARASSMENT read that carefully. CYBERSTALKING read that carefully.
CYBERBULLYING read that carefully.

Reading comprehension is a fundamental. A sign of mental instability when
people engage in your criminal behaviors. And multiple people have been
viciously attacked on these lists. And guess what? Valve is legally
responsible. Buh Bye.

You have also committed sexual harassment at this point. By not referring
to the proper gender identifier, HER. And keep stating to cyberstalk by
trying to research info you cannot access. Yeah google Stephanie d'Arc.
There are more than one Stephanie d'Arcs, but my info is not on public
platforms. You cannot access swiss records, nor French records.

Au Revoir

Quote

Cyberbullying is using technology to threaten, harass, embarrass or target
another person. Some of the most common types of cyberbullying include:

   - Threats on online social media
   - Rude texts
   - Mean or negative tweets
   - Posting personal information and/or videos that are intended to hurt
   and embarrass someone

In some cases, cyberbullying actually can be considered a form of
harassment. Intimidation or meanness that focus on your gender, sexual
orientation, race or religion would be considered harassment. No matter if
the bullying is done in person or via the Web, this type of nastiness
qualifies as discrimination and is actually illegal in many states today.
This means that law enforcement can get involved in extreme cases of
cyberbullying, and bullies can face prosecution.

Cyberbullying has unique aspects that differentiate it from other types of
bullying:

   - Persistent: Digital devices allow people to communicate all the time,
   24 hours per day, 7 days per week. It can be hard for children and teens
   who are being bullied to get any relief.
   - Permanent: Most information that is stated online is both public and
   permanent unless specific action is taking to remove it. Having negative
   online items about oneself can lead to negative effects including
   difficulty getting work, getting into college and getting scholarships.
   - Hard to see: Teachers and parents may be unaware of much of the
   bullying that occurs online because it cannot be seen or heard.

In some cases, federal stalking charges
 can
be brought against offenders.


Many states have enacted laws outlawing cyberstalking and cyber harassment.
Also, many states are now enacting laws that explicitly outlaw
cyberbullying. At least 44 states have some laws on cyberbullying.

Different Types of Cyberbullying

There are many types of cyberbullying that can eventually lead to criminal
charges in the worst cases. If you or someone you know engages in these
types of behaviors, a criminal charge is possible:

   - Harassment: The bully sends malicious and offensive messages to a
   person and does so many times. This is a form of cyberstalking in the worst
   cases, and involves constant threatening and rude messages. It can
   eventually lead to physical harassment.
   - Flaming: This activity is similar to harassment. The difference is
   that it is a fight that occurs online that is done via email, texts and
   chat. It is a form of public, online bullying that can lead to very serious
   outcomes with harsh language and images shared about a particular person.
   - Exclusion: This is the act of singling out a person and leaving him or
   her out of an online group or site. The group will then harass the person
   that has been left out of the group.
   - Outing: When a bully shares a person’s personal and private
   information, including images and video in some cases. A person has been
   ‘outed’ if that person’s information is widely available online.
   - Masquerading: This is where the bully creates a false identity to
   harass a person on an anonymous basis. The cyberbully may also impersonate
   another person so to send that person nasty messages in the other person’s
   name.
   - Fraping: When a person logs onto the victim’s social media accounts
   and pretends to be that person. This is a very serious offense that some
   may think is entertaining but it can ruin another person’s reputation.
   Google generally will not forget anything that has been posted even if it
   is deleted so 

[hlds_linux] Re: [hlds] Putting it out here

[Kyle Sanderson]

> I'm sure some of you are going to hate me for wasting my time on this

Little foolish - sure :P no one's going to hate you for it. It's
pretty clear they have MPD and are seeking attention. I'm a little
surprised no one's dropped their mail like last time.

Think you can help us out Milton with who the current mail-admin is?
There's like 150 email that's just attention-seeking about not
shipping amd64 binaries for the steam client, which is ridiculous to
begin with as GCFs are long gone and it's raw disk-thrashing files.

Best,
Kyle.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 1:55 PM Triple X  wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm sure some of you are going to hate me for wasting my time on this,
> but I've done a little minor bit of legal digging using tools available
> to everyone, and...
> As everyone already figured, "Stephanie" and Stealthmode are the same
> person. The two e-mail accounts share the same phone number (Number
> ending in 45) and have the same linked devices (Samsung Galaxy A01,
> UNIMAX UMX U683CL).
>
> At this point, all you'll be doing is feeding the troll. Best just
> ignore everything they post, add their e-mail addresses into a
> blocklist, and move on.
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Re: [hlds_linux] hlds update? Could not establish connection to Steam servers.

[Kyle Sanderson]

Sorry I haven't looked at this list in a while (hopefully you already
found the answer!)... Windows uses the steamclient that's installed,
whereas on Linux it uses the steamclient that's shipped with the game
(Windows does too - if Steam is not installed). So if the game has an
old version of steamclient, you'll get stuck with situations like
this. The Ship for instance had the Steam Masters (Mains? in 2020)
hard coded into the binary and were eventually orphaned like this. I
know years ago Qwest was trying to take back their address space from
Valve and Aldred flipped addresses on us which broke a shit ton of
games - if there's a hard coded address against this it's possible you
were impacted when they made a trivial (to them) move.

Were you able to resolve it natively? I might not be able to help, but
CC me so it lands in my inbox and I can try to.

Best,
Kyle.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 4:43 PM Ook  wrote:
>
> Well, as stupid as it sounds, I am able to get this to work by running
> the Windows version of hlds with wine on Linux. I am stumped as to why,
> with identical configs. the linux version gives the message "Could not
> establish connection to Steam servers.", while the Winbloze version
> running with wine works perfectly?
>
> On 10/4/20 10:41 PM, Ook wrote:
> > I've been running my OP4 servers for years. Bloody years. And for the
> > last few days, my players are messaging me, saying the my servers are
> > no longer on the server list. I look at console, and when I start
> > server I get:
> >
> > Could not establish connection to Steam servers.
> >
> > I've changed nothing. This has been working for many years. My ports
> > are unchanged. My ISP is not blocking anything (that I know of).
> >
> > I used steamcmd to get a fresh copy of hlds and op4, and it looks like
> > some of the core server files had updated, so I applied the update,
> > but it changes nothing.
> >
> > Did Valve update hlds recently, or update something on their end? This
> > is hlds on linux if that makes any difference.
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RE: [hlds_linux] hlds update? Could not establish connection to Steam servers.

[Saint K.]

If the hardcoded and new IP's are known, you could apply destination NAT on the 
local machine to work around this issue.

Saint K.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com  On 
Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson
Sent: 17 November 2020 01:03
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 

Cc: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] hlds update? Could not establish connection to Steam 
servers.


Sorry I haven't looked at this list in a while (hopefully you already found the 
answer!)... Windows uses the steamclient that's installed, whereas on Linux it 
uses the steamclient that's shipped with the game (Windows does too - if Steam 
is not installed). So if the game has an old version of steamclient, you'll get 
stuck with situations like this. The Ship for instance had the Steam Masters 
(Mains? in 2020) hard coded into the binary and were eventually orphaned like 
this. I know years ago Qwest was trying to take back their address space from 
Valve and Aldred flipped addresses on us which broke a shit ton of games - if 
there's a hard coded address against this it's possible you were impacted when 
they made a trivial (to them) move.

Were you able to resolve it natively? I might not be able to help, but CC me so 
it lands in my inbox and I can try to.

Best,
Kyle.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 4:43 PM Ook  wrote:
>
> Well, as stupid as it sounds, I am able to get this to work by running 
> the Windows version of hlds with wine on Linux. I am stumped as to 
> why, with identical configs. the linux version gives the message 
> "Could not establish connection to Steam servers.", while the Winbloze 
> version running with wine works perfectly?
>
> On 10/4/20 10:41 PM, Ook wrote:
> > I've been running my OP4 servers for years. Bloody years. And for 
> > the last few days, my players are messaging me, saying the my 
> > servers are no longer on the server list. I look at console, and 
> > when I start server I get:
> >
> > Could not establish connection to Steam servers.
> >
> > I've changed nothing. This has been working for many years. My ports 
> > are unchanged. My ISP is not blocking anything (that I know of).
> >
> > I used steamcmd to get a fresh copy of hlds and op4, and it looks 
> > like some of the core server files had updated, so I applied the 
> > update, but it changes nothing.
> >
> > Did Valve update hlds recently, or update something on their end? 
> > This is hlds on linux if that makes any difference.
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Re: [hlds_linux] vALVE loses hosting, provider bans service over criminals using cyberbullying to gang up on list members - news at six

[HurricanePootis]

Bruh you can't even capitalize valve correctly. Imagine being that 
poopy. like damn bro ok you out here with the yee-yee ass grammar oh oe 
hoeoh e heho ehheoh eho oehoeho. What are you going to do Try 
charging me when I am in the gamer zone. BRUH, I am literally gaming rn 
you can't even begin to comprehend what I am doing right now. Your brain 
is literally the size of a pencil bruhv you probably smell like rotten 
cheese and mint together like damn. Also, don't spam hlds_linux >:[ very 
rude n very mean. This is why I believe we should get an hlds_linux 
discord, so if people like you dare to exist, you can be instant 
yee-yeed out. like, swwowowohwowp, you're banned. Anyways, I am going to 
finish eating my pomegranates cause pomegranates r a very swaggy fruit 
see ya later smelly

*procedes to fard n shit*

On 11/16/20 3:34 PM, Stephanie d'Arc wrote:
For the persons engaging in criminal conduct on these lists. You are 
the reason vALVE is losing their hosting. You are going to prison. And 
you are civilly going to be working to pay damages for the rest of 
your lives. Now you can say oh no they don't do that. Or this won't 
happen. That's a manifestation of the psychosis that is causing you to 
engage in these criminal behaviors. XOGNITIVE BRHAVIORAL DISTORTIONS. 
And to the Orstralian on this list that is constantly privately 
messaging me, and Stealth. Sit tight. Your government was just 
contacted as well. EXCLUSION read that carefully. OUTING read that 
carefully. HARASSMENT read that carefully. SEXUAL HARASSMENT read that 
carefully. CYBERSTALKING read that carefully. CYBERBULLYING read that 
carefully.


Reading comprehension is a fundamental. A sign of mental instability 
when people engage in your criminal behaviors. And multiple people 
have been viciously attacked on these lists. And guess what? Valve is 
legally responsible. Buh Bye.


You have also committed sexual harassment at this point. By not 
referring to the proper gender identifier, HER. And keep stating to 
cyberstalk by trying to research info you cannot access. Yeah google 
Stephanie d'Arc. There are more than one Stephanie d'Arcs, but my info 
is not on public platforms. You cannot access swiss records, nor 
French records.


Au Revoir

Quote

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target another person. Some of the most common types of cyberbullying 
include:


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  * Rude texts
  * Mean or negative tweets
  * Posting personal information and/or videos that are intended to
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  * Persistent: Digital devices allow people to communicate all the
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and permanent unless specific action is taking to remove it.
Having negative online items about oneself can lead to negative
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There are many types of cyberbullying that can eventually lead to 
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  * Harassment: The bully sends malicious and offensive messages to a
person and does so many times. This is a form of cyberstalking in
the worst cases, and involves constant threatening and rude
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Re: [hlds] Re: [hlds_linux] hlds update? Could not establish connection to Steam servers.

[Ook]

It works well enough running the windows version with wine on a linux 
box, I've not been highly motivated to look into it further. Metamod 
appears to not work with the latest update, not sure if there will be 
any metamod updates for the new server binary or not. And there is no 
steam installed on the server.


I wonder if they updated the steam client in the windows version, but 
not the Linux version? I'll revisit this when I have a chance, see what 
I can find. Maybe find out what IP(s) it is trying to hit. I remember 
many years ago I had to do something with the steam IPs in the config to 
get it on the steam list, but dang that was a long time ago and I have 
no idea what I did...


On 11/16/20 5:03 PM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:

Sorry I haven't looked at this list in a while (hopefully you already
found the answer!)... Windows uses the steamclient that's installed,
whereas on Linux it uses the steamclient that's shipped with the game
(Windows does too - if Steam is not installed). So if the game has an
old version of steamclient, you'll get stuck with situations like
this. The Ship for instance had the Steam Masters (Mains? in 2020)
hard coded into the binary and were eventually orphaned like this. I
know years ago Qwest was trying to take back their address space from
Valve and Aldred flipped addresses on us which broke a shit ton of
games - if there's a hard coded address against this it's possible you
were impacted when they made a trivial (to them) move.

Were you able to resolve it natively? I might not be able to help, but
CC me so it lands in my inbox and I can try to.

Best,
Kyle.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 4:43 PM Ook  wrote:

Well, as stupid as it sounds, I am able to get this to work by running
the Windows version of hlds with wine on Linux. I am stumped as to why,
with identical configs. the linux version gives the message "Could not
establish connection to Steam servers.", while the Winbloze version
running with wine works perfectly?

On 10/4/20 10:41 PM, Ook wrote:

I've been running my OP4 servers for years. Bloody years. And for the
last few days, my players are messaging me, saying the my servers are
no longer on the server list. I look at console, and when I start
server I get:

Could not establish connection to Steam servers.

I've changed nothing. This has been working for many years. My ports
are unchanged. My ISP is not blocking anything (that I know of).

I used steamcmd to get a fresh copy of hlds and op4, and it looks like
some of the core server files had updated, so I applied the update,
but it changes nothing.

Did Valve update hlds recently, or update something on their end? This
is hlds on linux if that makes any difference.
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Re: [hlds] Re: [hlds_linux] hlds update? Could not establish connection to Steam servers.

[Kyle Sanderson]

> Metamod appears to not work with the latest update, not sure if there will be 
> any metamod updates for the new server binary or not.

Can you describe this in more detail? are you running metamod-am? If
you can give me STR I can try to help further.

Kyle.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ook  wrote:
>
> It works well enough running the windows version with wine on a linux
> box, I've not been highly motivated to look into it further. Metamod
> appears to not work with the latest update, not sure if there will be
> any metamod updates for the new server binary or not. And there is no
> steam installed on the server.
>
> I wonder if they updated the steam client in the windows version, but
> not the Linux version? I'll revisit this when I have a chance, see what
> I can find. Maybe find out what IP(s) it is trying to hit. I remember
> many years ago I had to do something with the steam IPs in the config to
> get it on the steam list, but dang that was a long time ago and I have
> no idea what I did...
>
> On 11/16/20 5:03 PM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:
> > Sorry I haven't looked at this list in a while (hopefully you already
> > found the answer!)... Windows uses the steamclient that's installed,
> > whereas on Linux it uses the steamclient that's shipped with the game
> > (Windows does too - if Steam is not installed). So if the game has an
> > old version of steamclient, you'll get stuck with situations like
> > this. The Ship for instance had the Steam Masters (Mains? in 2020)
> > hard coded into the binary and were eventually orphaned like this. I
> > know years ago Qwest was trying to take back their address space from
> > Valve and Aldred flipped addresses on us which broke a shit ton of
> > games - if there's a hard coded address against this it's possible you
> > were impacted when they made a trivial (to them) move.
> >
> > Were you able to resolve it natively? I might not be able to help, but
> > CC me so it lands in my inbox and I can try to.
> >
> > Best,
> > Kyle.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 4:43 PM Ook  wrote:
> >> Well, as stupid as it sounds, I am able to get this to work by running
> >> the Windows version of hlds with wine on Linux. I am stumped as to why,
> >> with identical configs. the linux version gives the message "Could not
> >> establish connection to Steam servers.", while the Winbloze version
> >> running with wine works perfectly?
> >>
> >> On 10/4/20 10:41 PM, Ook wrote:
> >>> I've been running my OP4 servers for years. Bloody years. And for the
> >>> last few days, my players are messaging me, saying the my servers are
> >>> no longer on the server list. I look at console, and when I start
> >>> server I get:
> >>>
> >>> Could not establish connection to Steam servers.
> >>>
> >>> I've changed nothing. This has been working for many years. My ports
> >>> are unchanged. My ISP is not blocking anything (that I know of).
> >>>
> >>> I used steamcmd to get a fresh copy of hlds and op4, and it looks like
> >>> some of the core server files had updated, so I applied the update,
> >>> but it changes nothing.
> >>>
> >>> Did Valve update hlds recently, or update something on their end? This
> >>> is hlds on linux if that makes any difference.
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Re: [hlds] Re: [hlds_linux] hlds update? Could not establish connection to Steam servers.

[Ook]

I'll set it up and post the error - it causes the linux server to crash 
on startup. I vaguely recall the windows server does not crash, but 
neither does metamod work. I have liblist.gam set correctly, but no 
metamod functions work. I'll get back to you with more details...


When I initially tested this, it was with a working config that I had 
not touched for years. All I did was update the hlds server binaries and 
libs. After the update, none of my servers would start, they all crashed 
in the exact same manner. Playing with liblist.gam did not help except 
when I removed metamod - that was the only way to get the server to start.


On 11/16/20 7:09 PM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:

Metamod appears to not work with the latest update, not sure if there will be 
any metamod updates for the new server binary or not.

Can you describe this in more detail? are you running metamod-am? If
you can give me STR I can try to help further.

Kyle.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ook  wrote:

It works well enough running the windows version with wine on a linux
box, I've not been highly motivated to look into it further. Metamod
appears to not work with the latest update, not sure if there will be
any metamod updates for the new server binary or not. And there is no
steam installed on the server.

I wonder if they updated the steam client in the windows version, but
not the Linux version? I'll revisit this when I have a chance, see what
I can find. Maybe find out what IP(s) it is trying to hit. I remember
many years ago I had to do something with the steam IPs in the config to
get it on the steam list, but dang that was a long time ago and I have
no idea what I did...

On 11/16/20 5:03 PM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:

Sorry I haven't looked at this list in a while (hopefully you already
found the answer!)... Windows uses the steamclient that's installed,
whereas on Linux it uses the steamclient that's shipped with the game
(Windows does too - if Steam is not installed). So if the game has an
old version of steamclient, you'll get stuck with situations like
this. The Ship for instance had the Steam Masters (Mains? in 2020)
hard coded into the binary and were eventually orphaned like this. I
know years ago Qwest was trying to take back their address space from
Valve and Aldred flipped addresses on us which broke a shit ton of
games - if there's a hard coded address against this it's possible you
were impacted when they made a trivial (to them) move.

Were you able to resolve it natively? I might not be able to help, but
CC me so it lands in my inbox and I can try to.

Best,
Kyle.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 4:43 PM Ook  wrote:

Well, as stupid as it sounds, I am able to get this to work by running
the Windows version of hlds with wine on Linux. I am stumped as to why,
with identical configs. the linux version gives the message "Could not
establish connection to Steam servers.", while the Winbloze version
running with wine works perfectly?

On 10/4/20 10:41 PM, Ook wrote:

I've been running my OP4 servers for years. Bloody years. And for the
last few days, my players are messaging me, saying the my servers are
no longer on the server list. I look at console, and when I start
server I get:

Could not establish connection to Steam servers.

I've changed nothing. This has been working for many years. My ports
are unchanged. My ISP is not blocking anything (that I know of).

I used steamcmd to get a fresh copy of hlds and op4, and it looks like
some of the core server files had updated, so I applied the update,
but it changes nothing.

Did Valve update hlds recently, or update something on their end? This
is hlds on linux if that makes any difference.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Thanks for everything

[Kyle Sanderson]

Ah buddy - I shouldn't have scanned back further than I did on the
list. Your HL2 models have been running on my (our - per how I run it)
server for well over a decade. Thank you very much for the
entertainment / fun over all this time. Spectre (I think this is yours
- otherwise there's another where the T is in all black clothing) was
always a fan favourite, Kim (I think that's what the model name was -
but I may have brain rot) helped normalize HL2 models and standardize
Half-Life in Source for Counter-Strike across the ecosystem.

Thanks for hanging around my friend - all the best.
Kyle.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 8:47 AM ics  wrote:
>
> First of all, please do not reply to this message, to reduce spam on the
> list.
>
> I just want to say this and thank everyone who has been here on this
> list, talking, helping and giving help, to issues i've had over the
> years and interacted with me regarding replies, bug reports, test
> builds, questions and whatever there ever was.
>
> I am shutting my game servers down at the end of June '20. 16 years was
> a long time but awesome as well. This doesnt stop or affect my other
> interests like playing games though.
>
> So long story short thank you and shouts to some of the Valve people
> i've had pleasure of interacting with: Fletcher, Jon and especially
> Eric, for posting the TF2 update notes for so long. Long after CSGO and
> L4D2 folks stopped.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -ics
>
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Re: [hlds] Re: [hlds_linux] hlds update? Could not establish connection to Steam servers.

[Kyle Sanderson]

Yeah let us know please - I'm sure my goldsrc peers are subscribed to
the list but this sounds like something we should try to address. I do
want to confirm you're not running retail MM though and you're running
MM from AM. Not saying it's the magic bullet but Alfred changed the
toolchain (GCC 2.4~ to 4.4~ or something) long ago on HL and that's
why we took the fork up beyond AMX.

Let us know my friend,
Kyle.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 6:13 PM Ook  wrote:
>
> I'll set it up and post the error - it causes the linux server to crash
> on startup. I vaguely recall the windows server does not crash, but
> neither does metamod work. I have liblist.gam set correctly, but no
> metamod functions work. I'll get back to you with more details...
>
> When I initially tested this, it was with a working config that I had
> not touched for years. All I did was update the hlds server binaries and
> libs. After the update, none of my servers would start, they all crashed
> in the exact same manner. Playing with liblist.gam did not help except
> when I removed metamod - that was the only way to get the server to start.
>
> On 11/16/20 7:09 PM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:
> >> Metamod appears to not work with the latest update, not sure if there will 
> >> be any metamod updates for the new server binary or not.
> > Can you describe this in more detail? are you running metamod-am? If
> > you can give me STR I can try to help further.
> >
> > Kyle.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ook  wrote:
> >> It works well enough running the windows version with wine on a linux
> >> box, I've not been highly motivated to look into it further. Metamod
> >> appears to not work with the latest update, not sure if there will be
> >> any metamod updates for the new server binary or not. And there is no
> >> steam installed on the server.
> >>
> >> I wonder if they updated the steam client in the windows version, but
> >> not the Linux version? I'll revisit this when I have a chance, see what
> >> I can find. Maybe find out what IP(s) it is trying to hit. I remember
> >> many years ago I had to do something with the steam IPs in the config to
> >> get it on the steam list, but dang that was a long time ago and I have
> >> no idea what I did...
> >>
> >> On 11/16/20 5:03 PM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:
> >>> Sorry I haven't looked at this list in a while (hopefully you already
> >>> found the answer!)... Windows uses the steamclient that's installed,
> >>> whereas on Linux it uses the steamclient that's shipped with the game
> >>> (Windows does too - if Steam is not installed). So if the game has an
> >>> old version of steamclient, you'll get stuck with situations like
> >>> this. The Ship for instance had the Steam Masters (Mains? in 2020)
> >>> hard coded into the binary and were eventually orphaned like this. I
> >>> know years ago Qwest was trying to take back their address space from
> >>> Valve and Aldred flipped addresses on us which broke a shit ton of
> >>> games - if there's a hard coded address against this it's possible you
> >>> were impacted when they made a trivial (to them) move.
> >>>
> >>> Were you able to resolve it natively? I might not be able to help, but
> >>> CC me so it lands in my inbox and I can try to.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Kyle.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 4:43 PM Ook  wrote:
>  Well, as stupid as it sounds, I am able to get this to work by running
>  the Windows version of hlds with wine on Linux. I am stumped as to why,
>  with identical configs. the linux version gives the message "Could not
>  establish connection to Steam servers.", while the Winbloze version
>  running with wine works perfectly?
> 
>  On 10/4/20 10:41 PM, Ook wrote:
> > I've been running my OP4 servers for years. Bloody years. And for the
> > last few days, my players are messaging me, saying the my servers are
> > no longer on the server list. I look at console, and when I start
> > server I get:
> >
> > Could not establish connection to Steam servers.
> >
> > I've changed nothing. This has been working for many years. My ports
> > are unchanged. My ISP is not blocking anything (that I know of).
> >
> > I used steamcmd to get a fresh copy of hlds and op4, and it looks like
> > some of the core server files had updated, so I applied the update,
> > but it changes nothing.
> >
> > Did Valve update hlds recently, or update something on their end? This
> > is hlds on linux if that makes any difference.
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Re: [hlds] Re: [hlds_linux] hlds update? Could not establish connection to Steam servers.

[Ook]

So to make a very long story very short...

I did a clean install of OP4, installed amx, and it worked. At this 
point I had one server with metamod/amx that works, one that doesn't. 
Now it's just a simple job to compare A to B to find out what is different.


Eventually I found the steamclient.so on my production server was 
different from the one on my test server. No idea why. So I copied the 
one from my working test server to my production server. Start 
production server. And my production server magically started working.


So now all four of my production servers at back and running, amx works, 
my other plugins work, and life is good again.


Where did that bad steamclient.so come from? Did Valve roll out a 
botched update, and have since fixed it? That gets my vote. If not then 
the client update somehow did not update steamclient.so. Or maybe I just 
screwed something - like that's never happened before.





On 11/16/20 7:20 PM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:

Yeah let us know please - I'm sure my goldsrc peers are subscribed to
the list but this sounds like something we should try to address. I do
want to confirm you're not running retail MM though and you're running
MM from AM. Not saying it's the magic bullet but Alfred changed the
toolchain (GCC 2.4~ to 4.4~ or something) long ago on HL and that's
why we took the fork up beyond AMX.

Let us know my friend,
Kyle.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 6:13 PM Ook  wrote:

I'll set it up and post the error - it causes the linux server to crash
on startup. I vaguely recall the windows server does not crash, but
neither does metamod work. I have liblist.gam set correctly, but no
metamod functions work. I'll get back to you with more details...

When I initially tested this, it was with a working config that I had
not touched for years. All I did was update the hlds server binaries and
libs. After the update, none of my servers would start, they all crashed
in the exact same manner. Playing with liblist.gam did not help except
when I removed metamod - that was the only way to get the server to start.

On 11/16/20 7:09 PM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:

Metamod appears to not work with the latest update, not sure if there will be 
any metamod updates for the new server binary or not.

Can you describe this in more detail? are you running metamod-am? If
you can give me STR I can try to help further.

Kyle.

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 6:04 PM Ook  wrote:

It works well enough running the windows version with wine on a linux
box, I've not been highly motivated to look into it further. Metamod
appears to not work with the latest update, not sure if there will be
any metamod updates for the new server binary or not. And there is no
steam installed on the server.

I wonder if they updated the steam client in the windows version, but
not the Linux version? I'll revisit this when I have a chance, see what
I can find. Maybe find out what IP(s) it is trying to hit. I remember
many years ago I had to do something with the steam IPs in the config to
get it on the steam list, but dang that was a long time ago and I have
no idea what I did...

On 11/16/20 5:03 PM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:

Sorry I haven't looked at this list in a while (hopefully you already
found the answer!)... Windows uses the steamclient that's installed,
whereas on Linux it uses the steamclient that's shipped with the game
(Windows does too - if Steam is not installed). So if the game has an
old version of steamclient, you'll get stuck with situations like
this. The Ship for instance had the Steam Masters (Mains? in 2020)
hard coded into the binary and were eventually orphaned like this. I
know years ago Qwest was trying to take back their address space from
Valve and Aldred flipped addresses on us which broke a shit ton of
games - if there's a hard coded address against this it's possible you
were impacted when they made a trivial (to them) move.

Were you able to resolve it natively? I might not be able to help, but
CC me so it lands in my inbox and I can try to.

Best,
Kyle.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 4:43 PM Ook  wrote:

Well, as stupid as it sounds, I am able to get this to work by running
the Windows version of hlds with wine on Linux. I am stumped as to why,
with identical configs. the linux version gives the message "Could not
establish connection to Steam servers.", while the Winbloze version
running with wine works perfectly?

On 10/4/20 10:41 PM, Ook wrote:

I've been running my OP4 servers for years. Bloody years. And for the
last few days, my players are messaging me, saying the my servers are
no longer on the server list. I look at console, and when I start
server I get:

Could not establish connection to Steam servers.

I've changed nothing. This has been working for many years. My ports
are unchanged. My ISP is not blocking anything (that I know of).

I used steamcmd to get a fresh copy of hlds and op4, and it looks like
some of the core server files had updated, so I applied the update,
but it changes nothing