Re: [hlds_linux] "Temporary" Quickplay changes ... 8 months later

[D3vilfish]

I had presumed it had just been the impact of BF, COD etc and console
conversions that people weren't playing on community servers as much, as ICS
and others the drop of players makes it harder to offer a gaming community.
Maybe we should all just convert to online casino's for the $
I thought clients didn't care about communities anymore but it would appear
tobe Valve.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: 24 October 2014 09:09
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] "Temporary" Quickplay changes ... 8 months later

After the quickplay change, my 4x24 servers turned from full to 1 full a
day, excluding the halloween. Just because that extra quickplay traffic was
cut off, that filled the rest of the empty slots. All i wanted was to offer
place to play on but it looks like i'm losing most of my interest after 9
years to continue doing this.

But it seems it's pointless to fight against the windmill to keep this
conversation up.

-ics

Emil Larsson kirjoitti:
> Well said McKay. VAC is especially useless towards a F2P game as well, 
> a hacker can just use throw away accounts if he is so determined. Not 
> keeping your items sure is a deteerent for honest players, but not so 
> much for people who want to "cheat troll" (which is what half the 
> cheaters I see do, they don't even try to hide it and makes it blindly 
> obvious to annoy players).
>
> And is it just me, or have the mailing list discussion dropped off 
> since the quickplay change as well? Majority of the discussions seems 
> to happen in response of updates now too.
>
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Alexander Corn 
> 
> wrote:
>
>> Here's a free bump since I didn't check the list in a little while.
>>
>> The Quickplay change was the single most harmful change in the 
>> history of the game. Gamers are notoriously lazy and entitled. They 
>> want their game to start *now*, before the loading screen even goes 
>> away. They're going to take the path of least resistance when joining 
>> a game. That path is Quickplay.
>>
>> It's all but impossible to start up a new vanilla server these days. 
>> You'll get a player or two here and there but the bulk of the 
>> population is now being funneled directly to Valve servers. It's 
>> almost ironic that Valve made it hardest to host servers the way the game
was meant to be played.
>>
>> As others have said, no Valve server was in the top 200 on 
>> Gametracker before the change. You might ask why community servers 
>> deserve traffic, but I'll ask right back why servers that people 
>> wouldn't join on their own deserve most traffic.
>>
>> VAC is designed to work in cooperation with a server administrator. 
>> VAC's delayed bans are a deterrent. That is, they attempt to prevent 
>> people from cheating in the first place. They're worthless for 
>> removing active cheaters. That's what server admins are for, but 
>> Valve's servers don't have any.
>>
>> Many players won't ever discover the server browser simply because 
>> the main menu design discourages them from clicking on the button. 
>> Eventually they'll bore. Bring thrown onto a random Valve server 
>> every time is the same way that Call of Duty works and it's pretty 
>> notorious for being a bland shooter. Who here thought 8 months ago 
>> that today we'd be comparing the TF2 experience to the CoD experience?
>>
>> You can add all kinds of game mechanics. In the end, it's the 
>> community that encourages players to come back. Valve servers have no
community.
>>
>> We don't want Valve servers to be shut down or anything. I just ask 
>> for Valve to reconsider its current stance of "community servers can
screw off"
>> which was supposed to be temporary as it is.
>>
>> Then again, I should be used to the Valve definition of "temporary". 
>> Go type sv_consistency into the console and see for yourself.
>> On Oct 15, 2014 2:16 PM, "Robert Paulson"  wrote:
>>
>>> I don't mind if he keep bumping the thread with these troll posts. A 
>>> bump is a bump.
>>>
>>> Dan (needaxeo) has been trolling these mailing lists for the past 2
>> years.
>>> He doesn't want Valve to take any action because he gave up on his 
>>> own community and wants to see everyone else fail. He thinks no one 
>>> can host
>> a
>>> better server and we are all trying to make a profit off dirt cheap
>> servers
>>> like he did. And he doesn't even play the game anymore so he is just 
>>> here trolling.
>>>
>>> Here is the proof when I outed him.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com/msg750
>> 63.html
>>>
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com/msg750
>> 67.html
>>> He keeps repeating 2 arguments that have been debunked over and over
>> again.
>>> - People are not too stupid or lazy to find the server they want to
play.
>>>
>>> If people weren't stupid or lazy they wou

Re: [hlds_linux] slow start of tf2 servers after latest update

[D3vilfish]

Do you export RDTSC_FREQUENCY first, just a thought, might be doing the test
first

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Svensk Ljud
& Ljus Produktion
Sent: 12 September 2014 16:55
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: [hlds_linux] slow start of tf2 servers after latest update

Hi
Im running several servers with debian 6 and noticed that it takes looong
time before the tf2 servers now are ready and starts to listen on its
game-port.
This is only on one machine, the other are working as they use to .. i
think.
Can it be some updated software that I missed ?

Peter

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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Thanks Eric.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Smith
Sent: 05 May 2011 19:02
To: 'h...@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: [hlds_linux] Mandatory updates coming later today

We're getting ready to release mandatory updates for TF2, CS:S, DoD:S, and
HL2:DM this afternoon. This is just a heads-up that they're coming.

-Eric


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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 Beta Update Released

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Are you confirming you have a Linux install of tf2 beta running as I have
installed from scratch a default install to a new directory and still no
joy.

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of clad iron
Sent: 25 March 2011 10:27
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 Beta Update Released

only issue i have seen is some maps will crash on start if the server has
bots running.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 3:03 AM, D3vilfish - Simiancage.org <
priv...@caterhamhill.net> wrote:

> Confirmed, since recently we are unable to run Meta Mod and now as you say
> since a couple of days ago they just insta crash on start.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ross
> Bemrose
> Sent: 25 March 2011 02:59
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 Beta Update Released
>
> My Linux TF2 Beta servers still crash on start, and have since
> yesterday's first update yesterday.
>
> Seeing as how there are only 7 Beta servers online, and none of them are
> official Valve servers, I'm guessing this problem is widespread.
>
> On 3/24/2011 8:00 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
> > We've released a mandatory TF2 Beta update. The notes have been posted
in
> the forums.
> >
> > -Eric
> >
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Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 Beta Update Released

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Confirmed, since recently we are unable to run Meta Mod and now as you say
since a couple of days ago they just insta crash on start.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ross Bemrose
Sent: 25 March 2011 02:59
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Mandatory TF2 Beta Update Released

My Linux TF2 Beta servers still crash on start, and have since 
yesterday's first update yesterday.

Seeing as how there are only 7 Beta servers online, and none of them are 
official Valve servers, I'm guessing this problem is widespread.

On 3/24/2011 8:00 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
> We've released a mandatory TF2 Beta update. The notes have been posted in
the forums.
>
> -Eric
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] l4d2 steamgroups (yes again)

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

I have also asked in the past that we are able to set a password in the
steamgroup admin page which then has to be present in the server config for
it tobe added to the steamgroup listing but apparently that's to much like
hard work for valve to add 1 convar!

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Riemers
Sent: 24 March 2011 20:47
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: [hlds_linux] l4d2 steamgroups (yes again)

So,

It is not improving its getting worse, we have our own steamgroups and
whenever someone wants to play a game for l4d2 its filled with servers that
are not ours.
Yes, it depends on which steamgroups you are in, for instance I only have my
own steamgroups and nothing extra but still I see servers that are not mine.

Since somebody decided to allow l4d2 servers to be assigned to multiple
steamgroup id's it really started to explode.

Perhaps now that your busy (valve) with the new campaign for l4d2, you could
install something that prevents this "riding on the success of others"
server abusers.
Maybe a special code in your steamgroup, that you set in l4d2 or something
else as simple as that... (or for starters, only allow 1 steamgroup or at
least minimize it)

I think that most people on the list can understand the effort one has put
into its own community to just see somebody else take advantage of it *is
wrong* 
This is in my opinion the same as those tf2 servers that had redirects in it
and false players (I am sure some still exist, but you all know what I mean)

Thanks for listening,
  Eric


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Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 Beta update annouce

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Any chance we can have beta updates announced on the listing so we don't
have to second guess?


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Re: [hlds_linux] orangebox exploit

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

I tend to put the rcon ports on a new port via commandline so you can
control it via iptables on a separate branch.
Hope this helps.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Drav Sloan
Sent: 21 March 2011 16:17
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] orangebox exploit

Christoffer Pedersen wrote:
> Block packets with that byte size on the specified port with iptables.

That _appears_ to be a TCP (not udp) packet (almost all "game packets"
are udp).  The only TCP traffic is for RCON (tho that tends to
be on 27015 and not 27115). Maybe you want to do the opposite for this
port, lock it down so no-one has access, and then add rules for the
IPs you do want access to RCON (this will not interrupt "normal" server
access, but just restrict from where RCON connections can be made)

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Re: [hlds_linux] No Steam Login

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

We had this with pl_cranetop_b8 (custom map) every other map has been fine.
There was a big tf2_beta update a few days ago and I can only guess some
things have been merged down to TF2 which maybe causing this to happen.
BTW is anyone else running TF2 beta as MM seems to now be totally fubared on
beta.
I pointed this out on AM forums but as its beta they are not willing to fix
MM for beta until the problem arrives in TF2.
It could all get bumpy over the next month is all I can say!
D3v

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
bottige...@gmail.com
Sent: 14 March 2011 20:48
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: [hlds_linux] No Steam Login

One of my TF2 servers keeps on dropping 20+ players at a time with the
message (No Steam logon).

Is this a DOS attack, steam failure, or something else? I haven't lost
connection to my SSH shell or had any packet loss to the server
myself.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Once again no version change on server so un able to connect, this is
becoming a habit!

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
Sent: 08 January 2011 00:05
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'; 'Half-Life dedicated
Win32 server mailing list'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific
changes include:

Source Engine Changes (CS:S, DoD:S, TF2, HL2:DM)
- Added the "Server can execute" flag to the "r_cleardecals" command.
- Fixed a problem where the microphone transmit volume sometimes had no
associated control and was disabled in the Audio options dialog.
- Fixed a crash on exit for Mac clients.

Team Fortress 2
- Added community submitted kill icons.
- Fixed enemies seeing death notices when you backstab their team mates with
Your Eternal Reward.
- Fixed the attack animation not always playing correctly for Your Eternal
Reward.
- Fixed the critboost sound not playing when the Kritzkrieg charge is
deployed.
- Fixed a broken texture on the Flipped Trilby.
- Updated the material for the Jag.
- Community Request
  - Fixed spawn points associated with a control point not being
enabled/disabled correctly when the control point owner is set using the
SetOwner input.
  - Added the "Server can execute" flag to the "firstperson" and
"thirdperson" commands.


Jason


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[hlds_linux] l4d2 update no version change

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Just updated l4d2 

Updating 'left 4 dead 2 linux dedicated server' from version 52 to version
53

45.20%  downloading ../l4d2/left4dead2/bin/dedicated.so
54.89%  downloading ../l4d2/left4dead2/bin/engine.so
81.67%  downloading ../l4d2/left4dead2/left4dead2/bin/server.so

But no version change, people cant join again.
Regards
D3v


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[hlds_linux] Sky Gaming Harasement

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Just received this steam online message
http://caterhamhill.net/Sky%20gaming.png
from Sky the Admin @ sky gaming.
We have in the past had but do not have his group id but consider this a
violation of the Law.
I have a good mind to add it back in to our L4D2 servers as the 70+ others
have added ours to their servers.
BTW SGO's steamgroup ID is 753541 
I have posted here in the hopes that Valve may look into this.
For reference.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/biaspark
and
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SkyGamingOrg
Regards
D3v


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Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 Update

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Servers populating I take it Valve done a quick fix which we thank them for.
D3v

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of oGre
Sent: 05 November 2010 18:52
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 Update

I get an engine error trying to start the client:

Could not load library client.

So yes, it seems bugged


/o

2010/11/5 D3vilfish - Simiancage.org :
> Apparently I'm getting reports from Admins and clients that client update
is
> bugged and can't be run since the update!
> Can anyone confirm this?
> Regards
> D3v
>
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[hlds_linux] L4D2 Update

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Apparently I'm getting reports from Admins and clients that client update is
bugged and can't be run since the update!
Can anyone confirm this?
Regards
D3v


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Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Just to note, we noticed our nix servers did not restart on map change even
though there was a version change, was this intentional or just a glitch, I
can see a lot of scripts breaking if this was intentional and how future
updates will be rolled out..
D3v

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
Sent: 19 October 2010 01:51
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'; 'Half-Life dedicated
Win32 server mailing list'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific
changes include:

- Fixed a sentry gun exploit that let Engineers build multiple sentries.
- Fixed Engineers being able to build level 3 mini-sentries using The
Wrangler.
- Fixed the Holy Mackerel hit triggering the first blood event in Arena
mode.
- Fixed seeing error particle systems in old demos.

Jason


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Re: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about 5-10 mins ago once you see this message?

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Ours have been stable since I updated MM & SM hope that helps.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Riemers
Sent: 09 October 2010 16:14
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about 5-10
mins ago once you see this message?


5 crashes so far today, random (but mostly full servers) also doesn't
matter if its windows or linux, they both crash now and then.

On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 13:07:38 +0300, ics  wrote:
> D-FENS has been broken since the Polycount update on Linux servers.
> 
> -ics
> 
> 9.10.2010 12:32, D3vilfish - Simiancage.org kirjoitti:
>> Iv'e reinstalled latest versions of MM 1.9&  SM snap 1.4. Unloaded DAF&
>> Dfens and so far server seems stable.
>> Iptables should cover most rcon&  dos attacks but I do prefer running
any
>> security possible. If this fixes my current stability I will test Daf&
>> Defens to see if they where the problem.
>> D3v
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric
>> Riemers
>> Sent: 09 October 2010 10:10
>> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about
>> 5-10
>> mins ago once you see this message?
>>
>> I also still see too many restarts for my liking, doesn't really matter
>> which one of the tf2's I am running..
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony
>> Paloma
>> Sent: zaterdag 9 oktober 2010 8:28
>> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about
>> 5-10
>> mins ago once you see this message?
>>
>> Just FYI, today's update didn't seem to fix it. Still getting these
>> frequently.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony
>> Paloma
>> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 9:40 AM
>> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about
>> 5-10
>> mins ago once you see this message?
>>
>> I am getting the exact same.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane
>> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 8:51 AM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about
>> 5-10
>> mins ago once you see this message?
>>
>> I'm getting crashes like this on my TF2 servers (I'm not running that
TF2
>> items extension):
>> #0  0xf77160ee in __dynamic_cast () from bin/libtier0.so
>> #1  0xf3dbeb08 in CTFWeaponBase::ReapplyProvision ()
>> from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
>> #2  0xf3dd3ffe in CTFStunBall::PipebombTouch ()
>> from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
>> #3  0xf3f86715 in CBaseEntity::Touch ()
>> from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
>> #4  0xf3ce5364 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsStartTouch ()
>> from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
>> #5  0xf3ce59bd in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntityAsTouched ()
>> from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
>> #6  0xf3ce5cb7 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntitiesAsTouching ()
>> from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
>> #7  0xf405956b in CServerGameEnts::MarkEntitiesAsTouching ()
>> from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
>> #8  0xf6ff64fe in SV_SolidMoved () from
>> /home/srcds/orangebox/bin/engine.so
>> #9  0xf6fe8e29 in CVEngineServer::SolidMoved ()
>> from /home/srcds/orangebox/bin/engine.so
>> #10 0xf3f9215f in CBaseEntity::PhysicsTouchTriggers ()
>> from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
>> #11 0xf409bb70 in CMoveHelperServer::ProcessImpacts ()
>> from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
>> #12 0xf41a082a in CPlayerMove::RunCommand ()
>>
>> I have dumps if anyone from Valve is interested.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Kyle Sanderson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> With these kind of crashes, it's best to just run gdb in a screen
>>

Re: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about 5-10 mins ago once you see this message?

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Iv'e reinstalled latest versions of MM 1.9 & SM snap 1.4. Unloaded DAF &
Dfens and so far server seems stable.
Iptables should cover most rcon & dos attacks but I do prefer running any
security possible. If this fixes my current stability I will test Daf &
Defens to see if they where the problem.
D3v

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Riemers
Sent: 09 October 2010 10:10
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about 5-10
mins ago once you see this message?

I also still see too many restarts for my liking, doesn't really matter
which one of the tf2's I am running..

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma
Sent: zaterdag 9 oktober 2010 8:28
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about 5-10
mins ago once you see this message?

Just FYI, today's update didn't seem to fix it. Still getting these
frequently.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 9:40 AM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about 5-10
mins ago once you see this message?

I am getting the exact same.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 8:51 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about 5-10
mins ago once you see this message?

I'm getting crashes like this on my TF2 servers (I'm not running that TF2
items extension):
#0  0xf77160ee in __dynamic_cast () from bin/libtier0.so
#1  0xf3dbeb08 in CTFWeaponBase::ReapplyProvision ()
   from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
#2  0xf3dd3ffe in CTFStunBall::PipebombTouch ()
   from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
#3  0xf3f86715 in CBaseEntity::Touch ()
   from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
#4  0xf3ce5364 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsStartTouch ()
   from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
#5  0xf3ce59bd in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntityAsTouched ()
   from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
#6  0xf3ce5cb7 in CBaseEntity::PhysicsMarkEntitiesAsTouching ()
   from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
#7  0xf405956b in CServerGameEnts::MarkEntitiesAsTouching ()
   from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
#8  0xf6ff64fe in SV_SolidMoved () from /home/srcds/orangebox/bin/engine.so
#9  0xf6fe8e29 in CVEngineServer::SolidMoved ()
   from /home/srcds/orangebox/bin/engine.so
#10 0xf3f9215f in CBaseEntity::PhysicsTouchTriggers ()
   from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
#11 0xf409bb70 in CMoveHelperServer::ProcessImpacts ()
   from /home/srcds/orangebox/tf/bin/server.so
#12 0xf41a082a in CPlayerMove::RunCommand ()

I have dumps if anyone from Valve is interested.

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:24 AM, Kyle Sanderson  wrote:

> With these kind of crashes, it's best to just run gdb in a screen 
> attached to SRCDS. That way if it crashes you're ready to debug, or 
> generate a core dump rather then sit there with your *thumb up your
> bumb* watching Valve get a useless coredump that is probably unrelated 
> to the game entirely.
>
> Just another one of my workarounds for the latest wave of regressions. 
> :/ Kyle.
>
> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:04 AM, DontWannaName! 
> 
> wrote:
> > Anyone have any minidumps?
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:32 PM, ics  wrote:
> >
> >>  I have had also random crashes which started after last nights update.
> I'm
> >> not sure what is the cause but the servers were stable before the
> update.
> >>
> >> -ics
> >>
> >> 7.10.2010 23:36, D3vilfish - Simiancage.org kirjoitti:
> >>
> >> Weve been getting random crashes all day , approximately 3 on each
> servers
> >>> since the last update. Generally when servers are full, ranging 
> >>> from 18 player highlander server (crashes and locks) to 33 player 
> >>> official map servers (crashes and restarts) also seeing some major 
> >>> lag spikes on
> l4d2
> >>> servers in hlsw which have just started in the last day to.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> >>> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valveso

Re: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about 5-10 mins ago once you see this message?

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

This is what the servers freeze on, if its any help, not had time with work 
being busy to setup debug.


Infinite angles from vphysics! (entity minecart_physprop)
Infinite origin from vphysics! (entity minecart_physprop)

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson
Sent: 08 October 2010 05:25
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about 5-10 mins 
ago once you see this message?

With these kind of crashes, it's best to just run gdb in a screen
attached to SRCDS. That way if it crashes you're ready to debug, or
generate a core dump rather then sit there with your *thumb up your
bumb* watching Valve get a useless coredump that is probably unrelated
to the game entirely.

Just another one of my workarounds for the latest wave of regressions. :/
Kyle.

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 5:04 AM, DontWannaName!  wrote:
> Anyone have any minidumps?
>
> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:32 PM, ics  wrote:
>
>>  I have had also random crashes which started after last nights update. I'm
>> not sure what is the cause but the servers were stable before the update.
>>
>> -ics
>>
>> 7.10.2010 23:36, D3vilfish - Simiancage.org kirjoitti:
>>
>> Weve been getting random crashes all day , approximately 3 on each servers
>>> since the last update. Generally when servers are full, ranging from 18
>>> player highlander server (crashes and locks) to 33 player official map
>>> servers (crashes and restarts) also seeing some major lag spikes on l4d2
>>> servers in hlsw which have just started in the last day to.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric
>>> Riemers
>>> Sent: 07 October 2010 19:14
>>> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about 5-10
>>> mins ago once you see this message?
>>>
>>> I had 1 server crashing at 19:38, but all the others are still fine.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
>>> Sent: donderdag 7 oktober 2010 19:28
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>>> Subject: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about 5-10
>>> mins
>>> ago once you see this message?
>>>
>>>   Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about 5-10 mins ago once you see
>>> this message? I had all ours going down at the same time, segfaulting.
>>> I'm asking of this is related to the recent series of crashes before
>>> polycount update and looking for confirm.
>>>
>>> -ics
>>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about 5-10 mins ago once you see this message?

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Weve been getting random crashes all day , approximately 3 on each servers
since the last update. Generally when servers are full, ranging from 18
player highlander server (crashes and locks) to 33 player official map
servers (crashes and restarts) also seeing some major lag spikes on l4d2
servers in hlsw which have just started in the last day to.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Riemers
Sent: 07 October 2010 19:14
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about 5-10
mins ago once you see this message?

I had 1 server crashing at 19:38, but all the others are still fine.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: donderdag 7 oktober 2010 19:28
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: [hlds_linux] Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about 5-10 mins
ago once you see this message?

  Did your TF2 servers just had a crash about 5-10 mins ago once you see
this message? I had all ours going down at the same time, segfaulting. 
I'm asking of this is related to the recent series of crashes before
polycount update and looking for confirm.

-ics

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Re: [hlds_linux] L4D server - anyone got their running?

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Updating Linux and dling .dll files Great!

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ronny
Schedel
Sent: 05 October 2010 21:40
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D server - anyone got their running?

Same problem here!

>  So, anyone has managed to get linux servers running? All iget on 2 
> different machines is this:
>
> Unable to remove /home/game/pp7/l4d/left4dead_dlc3/addonlist.txt!
> #Unable to remove /home/game/pp7/l4d/left4dead_dlc3/addonlist.txt!
> #Game.dll loaded for "L4D - Co-op - Normal"
> Segmentation fault
> Add "-debug" to the /home/game/pp7/l4d/srcds_run command line to generate 
> a debug.log to help with solving this problem
> Tue Oct  5 23:13:51 EEST 2010: Server restart in 10 seconds
> ue Oct  5 23:13:53 EEST 2010: Server Quit
>
> FYI that file does not even exist and i've ran verify_all option + removed

> the blobs. Nothing seems to help which is why i ask if anyone has their 
> L4D's running ok?
>
> -ics
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Re: [hlds_linux] to valve programmers - according to crash reports -gcc

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Were using Squeeze and with the only additional ia32 libs which covers amd
and intel support

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of - TjaardAT R
C Gerrit M
Sent: 27 September 2010 15:10
To: HLDS_Linux Mailing_list_valve
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] to valve programmers - according to crash reports
-gcc


i use these Library  (Debian 505  i386 webinstall )

- libdb4.6-dev
- libc6
- libc6-dev
- libc6-i686
- libgcc1-dbg
- gcc-4.1-base

read this 
I did read the forums, and found:[  /hlds_run: line 321: 7373
Segmentation fault]
- Steam Forum:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=879523
- Debian Lenny:   http://packages.debian.org/lenny/gcc 

Greetz TjaardA


> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:29:21 +0200
> From: ad...@gameranger.pl
> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: [hlds_linux] to valve programmers - according to crash reports
-gcc
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to ask on which version of gcc/libraries and on which 
> operating system hlds and srcds has been compiled. I think that library 
> miss match is main reason for hlds beeing unstable, with all those 
> strange seg faults.
> There is no official suggestion which distro or which libc should be 
> used for hlds/srcds.
> 
> regards
> KN
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Re: [hlds_linux] some random crashes

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I think valve are scraberling to solve the issue as it has gotten worse
which would suggest they have changed something that they thought would sort
it out but in fact has made it worse.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
r...@bsk.vectranet.pl
Sent: 19 September 2010 19:47
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] some random crashes

Yes, My TF2 server runs with no problems for weeks, but from last update, I 
have random crashes ( 1-3 per day).


Linux Debian 64bit.

--
From: "Eric Riemers" 
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 8:30 PM
To: "'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'" 

Subject: [hlds_linux] some random crashes

> All,
>
> Anybody noticed some strange restarts?  I've got a buch of servers that 
> went
> hanging, but even servers thats been running for ages without problems 
> (even
> empty ones)
> Even on different platforms (windows and linux)
>
> Just throwing it out there, it seems to have stopped now though.
>
> Seems more instable, like I've read that some servers crash more often 
> after
> the last updates. Like above, some servers crashing which did not crash 
> for
> a long time.
>
> Could just be me too..  :-)
>
> Eric
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] dystopia 1.3 needs some servers

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

We used to run Dystopia servers but all I got for my efforts was players
bitching ingame and Don Redhorse bitching on the forums.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of atomy
Sent: 15 September 2010 01:32
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: [hlds_linux] dystopia 1.3 needs some servers

hey guys,

dystopia is out and we are running out of dedicated servers, would u
guys give us a hand?

./steam -command update -game dystopia

http://www.dystopia-game.com/

thanks! ;-)
-atomy

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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Ok second restart and now showing 1.0.7.0

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
Sent: 10 September 2010 23:30
To: Jason Ruymen; 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list';
'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

And this is fixed now.  So if you run a Team Fortress 2 server, please run
hldsupdatetool again to allow customers to connect.

Jason 

-Original Message-
From: Jason Ruymen 
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:03 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; 'Half-Life dedicated
Linux server mailing list'
Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

Yes, we're working on fixing this and should have it resolved soon.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:58 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

  Yeah, it's all messed up now. I guess we can expect another update soon.

-ics

11.9.2010 0:56, 1nsane kirjoitti:
> Both the client and the server have old version steam.inf (1.1.0.6),
master
> is expecting new version (1.1.0.7)
>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kevin b er
wrote:
>
>> Master server complaining about version.  What should the patch version
be?
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 4:41 PM, 1nsane<1nsane...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> Friday updates are usually awesome. Especially when they break things
>> that
>>> don't get fixed until Monday or Tuesday, I love those especially.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Tony Paloma>>> wrote:
 This update did not include changed steam.inf with correct version.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:21 PM
 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list';
 'h...@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
 Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

 A required update to Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific
 changes
 include:

 Engine (CS:S, DoD:S, TF2):
 - Fixed clients locking up while attempting to load the game and
>>> re-enabled
 signature checking.

 Team Fortress 2:
 - Fixed a case where some items would display an empty string for their
 name.

 Jason


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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

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Nope version 1.0.1.0 and says server is out of
date
-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
Sent: 10 September 2010 23:30
To: Jason Ruymen; 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list';
'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

And this is fixed now.  So if you run a Team Fortress 2 server, please run
hldsupdatetool again to allow customers to connect.

Jason 

-Original Message-
From: Jason Ruymen 
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:03 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list; 'Half-Life dedicated
Linux server mailing list'
Subject: RE: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

Yes, we're working on fixing this and should have it resolved soon.

-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:58 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

  Yeah, it's all messed up now. I guess we can expect another update soon.

-ics

11.9.2010 0:56, 1nsane kirjoitti:
> Both the client and the server have old version steam.inf (1.1.0.6),
master
> is expecting new version (1.1.0.7)
>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Kevin b er
wrote:
>
>> Master server complaining about version.  What should the patch version
be?
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 4:41 PM, 1nsane<1nsane...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> Friday updates are usually awesome. Especially when they break things
>> that
>>> don't get fixed until Monday or Tuesday, I love those especially.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Tony Paloma>>> wrote:
 This update did not include changed steam.inf with correct version.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
 Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:21 PM
 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list';
 'h...@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
 Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

 A required update to Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific
 changes
 include:

 Engine (CS:S, DoD:S, TF2):
 - Fixed clients locking up while attempting to load the game and
>>> re-enabled
 signature checking.

 Team Fortress 2:
 - Fixed a case where some items would display an empty string for their
 name.

 Jason


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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

No one is infallible, someone done what we call in the uk a "Friday
afternoon job" "Fuckit its time for the pub and beer that will do!"

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma
Sent: 10 September 2010 22:46
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

Absolutely. And if you manually change steam.inf then nobody can connect to
your server because their client still thinks it's the old version. AWESOME
UPDATE

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of David A.
Parker
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:40 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

Is that what's causing this:

Connection to Steam servers successful.
VAC secure mode is activated.
MasterRequestRestart
Your server will be restarted on map change.
Your server will be restarted on map change.

Every time I start my server?

On 09/10/2010 05:35 PM, Tony Paloma wrote:
> This update did not include changed steam.inf with correct version.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:21 PM
> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'; 
> 'h...@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
> Subject: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Released
>
> A required update to Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific 
> changes
> include:
>
> Engine (CS:S, DoD:S, TF2):
> - Fixed clients locking up while attempting to load the game and 
> re-enabled signature checking.
>
> Team Fortress 2:
> - Fixed a case where some items would display an empty string for 
> their name.
>
> Jason
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] SRCDS Protect Tips

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Latest version seems to be ok (15e I believe off the top of my head), we had
the same, we do however have the assertion fail crash atm which lists a shed
load of files including certain sourcemod files, I have now updated to the
latest snap of 1.4 dev and seems tobe better.
Sorry for slightly off topic.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
DontWannaName!
Sent: 10 September 2010 21:24
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] SRCDS Protect Tips

When I installed blocker it crashed my server once players joined. I don't
run Kac. This is tf2 though.

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Sep 10, 2010, at 12:10 PM, "D3vilfish - Simiancage.org"
 wrote:

> We have however found better stability and performance with Dblocker
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Sugar
> Sent: 10 September 2010 20:02
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] SRCDS Protect Tips
> 
> I was planning to mention this as well. I concur.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Donnie Newlove
> wrote:
> 
>> Running both KAC and DBlocker might not be a great idea, sort of like
>> running two antiviruses. Both try to accomplish about the same thing
>> but DBlocker is closed source we you really don't know what it's
>> doing.
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Alon Gubkin 
>> wrote:
>>> I'm going to open 4 CS:S servers soon, and I need your help in blocking
>>> cheaters, crashers, etc.
>>> 
>>> Currently, I am:
>>> 
>>>  - Blocking TCP port (no RCON)
>>>  - Setting file permissions carefully, running SRCDS under a limited
>> user
>>>  - Installing the following plugins:
>>> - Kigen's Anti Cheat <http://kigenac.com>
>>> - DBlocker <http://dblocker.didrole.com/>
>>> - <http://dblocker.didrole.com/>Denial of Service
>>> Protect<https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=95312>
>>> - <https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=95312>D-FENS<
>> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=109453>
>>> - <https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=109453>Rcon
>> locker /
>>> exploit fix <https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=93934>
>>> 
>>> I took this list mainly from here<
>> http://wiki.alliedmods.net/SRCDS_Hardening>,
>>> but it's seems to be a little outdated now. There are many new defense
>>> plugins (like Query Cache), and I don't know what *should* I install and
>>> what's just unnecessary.
>>> 
>>> What plugins aren't necessary anymore from this list? What plugins
> should
>> I
>>> add? What else would you suggest to protect my servers?
>>> 
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Re: [hlds_linux] SRCDS Protect Tips

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

We have however found better stability and performance with Dblocker

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Sugar
Sent: 10 September 2010 20:02
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] SRCDS Protect Tips

I was planning to mention this as well. I concur.


On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Donnie Newlove
wrote:

> Running both KAC and DBlocker might not be a great idea, sort of like
> running two antiviruses. Both try to accomplish about the same thing
> but DBlocker is closed source we you really don't know what it's
> doing.
>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Alon Gubkin 
> wrote:
> > I'm going to open 4 CS:S servers soon, and I need your help in blocking
> > cheaters, crashers, etc.
> >
> > Currently, I am:
> >
> >   - Blocking TCP port (no RCON)
> >   - Setting file permissions carefully, running SRCDS under a limited
> user
> >   - Installing the following plugins:
> >  - Kigen's Anti Cheat 
> >  - DBlocker 
> >  - Denial of Service
> > Protect
> >  - D-FENS<
> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=109453>
> >  - Rcon
> locker /
> >  exploit fix 
> >
> > I took this list mainly from here<
> http://wiki.alliedmods.net/SRCDS_Hardening>,
> > but it's seems to be a little outdated now. There are many new defense
> > plugins (like Query Cache), and I don't know what *should* I install and
> > what's just unnecessary.
> >
> > What plugins aren't necessary anymore from this list? What plugins
should
> I
> > add? What else would you suggest to protect my servers?
> >
> > Thanks.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Since the update previous to this one that fixed the locking up issue on
win32 servers we have now been experiencing this problem on all our OB Linux
servers, once again the only way to fix it is to add -nobreakpad to the
start line, is anyone else experiencing this problem.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
Sent: 02 September 2010 23:05
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list';
'h...@list.valvesoftware.com'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Released

A required update to Team Fortress 2 is now available.  Please run
hldsupdatetool to receive the update.  The specific changes include:

Engine (CS:S, DoD:S, TF2):
- Fixed a server crash caused by spamming the server with invalid rcon
passwords.

Team Fortress 2:
- Fixed a bug in the Steamworks internal stats reporting.

Jason


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Re: [hlds_linux] Couple of things!

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

No worries and understandable as this is really a server listing not client
q&a I just was seeing if anyone else had the same problem!

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Harry
Strongburg
Sent: 02 September 2010 18:54
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Couple of things!

On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 04:52:35PM +0100, D3vilfish - Simiancage.org wrote:
> So you question my admin abilities about a client side problem,

No, I am not; please stop being so defensive. I only asked because there 
is a chance that you might have been doing it wrong. Please do not take 
my suggestions as a personal insult. I was not trying to insult your 
abilities, I was just trying to make sure "all the bases are covered".

> I am in more than 1 steamgroup (client side) and none are showing, 
> basicly there is no steamgroup scrolling list in game

I am in more than one Steam group, and all those Steam-Group servers are 
showing on the scrolling list. I had a similar problem before, and I was 
informed by Steam Support:

>> Please exit Steam and go to the folder called C:\Program Files\Steam\ 
>> (this is the default location for a Steam installation - if you set a 
>> different installation directory, you will need to browse to it). 
>> Delete all of the files in this folder except: The Steamapps folder 
>> and Steam.exe (this file is listed as an application and features the 
>> black and white Steam logo). Restart your computer. Then, you will 
>> need to launch Steam.exe from within the Steam installation folder, 
>> and not from a pre-existing shortcut. With Steam running, re-test the 
>> original issue.

This fixed the client-side problem for me.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Couple of things!

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

So you question my admin abilities about a client side problem, the only
reason I asked was because I was already posting about CSS (I am in more
than 1 steamgroup (client side) and none are showing, basicly there is no
steamgroup scrolling list in game) this is not a server side problem, we
have been running L4D2 servers since the release and they are fine.
I was just after some validation from other l4d2 players.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Harry
Strongburg
Sent: 02 September 2010 16:07
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Couple of things!

On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 03:14:06PM +0100, D3vilfish - Simiancage.org wrote:
> L4D2
> Client side steamgroup is not working ingame.
> I have not seen my steamgroup listing for a while now, this is client
side,

Are you sure you're using sv_steamgroup 1234? 1234 being "Group ID", 
from http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GROUPNAME/edit - "ID: $numbers". 
You must be a group admin to get this number, and you should keep it 
private. If you are doing this, it's a client-side problem, so you 
should ask SPUF or Steam Support.

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[hlds_linux] Couple of things!

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

CS:S
Can we please have:
sv_disablefreezecam 0 
Work when:
mp_forcecamera 1
As regards to clan wars they can easily turn deathcam off but for public
servers people miss this when we try to keep some integrity of the game
using forcecam.

L4D2
Client side steamgroup is not working ingame.
I have not seen my steamgroup listing for a while now, this is client side,
and I can now only join my fav servers through connect ip:port.
Regrads
D3v


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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds_announce] Team Fortress 2/Counter-Strike: Source and Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Second that, appreciated work.
Regards

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Marc.B
Sent: 18 August 2010 11:42
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds_announce] Team Fortress 2/Counter-Strike:
Source and Day of Defeat: Source Update Released

I agree with Steven and I would even add:
All the last update on CSS for example are taking in account bug fix
requirements from the community to make this game better.
I don't know many games that are that old that keep being updated. The
release time have also improved, we even received a warning that a new
version would be comming and even if it was a bit delayed we event got
an ETA of the release.

Come on Valve, make Steven's Dream come true :)

Anyway, we use to shout when something we don't like happen, like
linux missing file, screwed update, and so... but it's also important
to post when you appreciate their work and effort.

This update went well, timing was pretty good, we had an ETA of the
release and that's really not bad. Good job guys, as a GSP admin, I
appreciate this a lot ! :)

Marc.


On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Steven Hartland
 wrote:
> Well we asked here for a better release time and Valve delivered, so I
> think that's proof enough that they do listen! Not everything is
achievable
> and we have to respect that but if you don't ask, you don't get; so it
never
> hurts to ask :)
>
>   Regards       Steve
>
> - Original Message - From: "Daniel Vogel" 
>
>
>> If you could just enable the server download 30mins and hour before the
>> client releases so we can all be ready to "throw the switch" that would
>> be great :)
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[hlds_linux] Cp_Gorge 2nd spwan

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

I see valve broke 2nd spawn platform, now able to be built on by defending
engy's again.


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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS weapon upgrades

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Try Gpu observer widget by http://blog.orbmu2k.de/

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Steffen
Schmolinske
Sent: 15 July 2010 21:00
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS weapon upgrades

/this.
got a few mates with the same trouble (one even with 20 fps on a quad core).
first fix the game, then think about options.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kyle Sanderson" 
To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" 

Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS weapon upgrades


> If it's any consolation, about half my friends cannot play comfortably
> (10-40FPS, where as before it was easily 30-80FPS) anymore.
>
> Sure game play is something to work on, but performance should always be 
> first.
> Kyle.
>
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:31 AM, ics  wrote:
>> According to Steam stats, since CSS OB update, the playercount has gone 
>> much
>> down. Even CS 1.6 has more players these days than CSS. The ratio used to

>> be
>> 1-2 more in favor of CSS in the past. This game needs more than 
>> just
>> engine upgrade. New maps and new features and most importantly of all, a
>> working game. So many players have some sort of issues after the engine
>> change.
>>
>> I don't see weapon upgrades coming.
>>
>> -ics
>>
>> 15.7.2010 18:14, D3vilfish - Simiancage.org kirjoitti:
>>>
>>> Sorry for off topic for srcds but just throwing it out there as an idea.
>>> Do you think valve will bring in weapon upgrades like tf2 style for css.
>>> This could be an opt in/out for server admins so clan wars stay strictly
>>> on
>>> a level playing field but casual/public gaming could have a whole new
>>> lease
>>> of life.
>>> After the engy update we had a big drop in player count on css so maybe 
>>> it
>>> would put a bit of spark back in the game.
>>> Before you all scream "No don't do it" As I said if this is a opt in/out
>>> system I think it could convert alot of tf2 players back into source 
>>> which
>>> have since been lost.
>>> Just a thought!
>>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS weapon upgrades

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

One thing does come to mind tho, I also have my gaming rig water cooled on
the cpu and gpu and with multi core support enabled I have a markable
increase in heat on the gpu from 33  to 36 Celsius. So maybe its just the
badly ventilated pc's stuffed up with dust that are being affected, with the
gpu getting its legs stretched and the ventilation clogged maybe the gpu is
throttling back to preserve the hardware?

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of EVAgames
Community
Sent: 15 July 2010 21:12
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS weapon upgrades

First of all, do not mess with your game. Remove all configs, fps_screwups  
and other configs, used with old CSS. Then try again.
protocol 7 and protocol 15 have lots of changes and outdated fps_tweaks do  
worse. :-)

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:00:11 +0300, Steffen Schmolinske  
 wrote:

> /this.
> got a few mates with the same trouble (one even with 20 fps on a quad  
> core).
> first fix the game, then think about options.
>
> - Original Message - From: "Kyle Sanderson" 
> To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list"  
> 
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS weapon upgrades
>
>
>> If it's any consolation, about half my friends cannot play comfortably
>> (10-40FPS, where as before it was easily 30-80FPS) anymore.
>>
>> Sure game play is something to work on, but performance should always  
>> be first.
>> Kyle.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:31 AM, ics  wrote:
>>> According to Steam stats, since CSS OB update, the playercount has  
>>> gone much
>>> down. Even CS 1.6 has more players these days than CSS. The ratio used  
>>> to be
>>> 1-2 more in favor of CSS in the past. This game needs more  
>>> than just
>>> engine upgrade. New maps and new features and most importantly of all,  
>>> a
>>> working game. So many players have some sort of issues after the engine
>>> change.
>>>
>>> I don't see weapon upgrades coming.
>>>
>>> -ics
>>>
>>> 15.7.2010 18:14, D3vilfish - Simiancage.org kirjoitti:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for off topic for srcds but just throwing it out there as an  
>>>> idea.
>>>> Do you think valve will bring in weapon upgrades like tf2 style for  
>>>> css.
>>>> This could be an opt in/out for server admins so clan wars stay  
>>>> strictly
>>>> on
>>>> a level playing field but casual/public gaming could have a whole new
>>>> lease
>>>> of life.
>>>> After the engy update we had a big drop in player count on css so  
>>>> maybe it
>>>> would put a bit of spark back in the game.
>>>> Before you all scream "No don't do it" As I said if this is a opt  
>>>> in/out
>>>> system I think it could convert alot of tf2 players back into source  
>>>> which
>>>> have since been lost.
>>>> Just a thought!
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] CSS weapon upgrades

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If he has a quad core and he only gets 20 fps then he has a seriously fubard
pc. My pc is 12 months old, quad intel with ati 4800 series gfx and I still
get 200+ fps with vsync off, but then again I keep my PC clean and tidy
don't install crap that bloats it and always use the windows update drivers
not the latest from ati/nvidia.
Seriously backup his data and re install. People are too quick to blame the
software of the game before they realise that all the crap they install on
their pc just kills the game.
A gaming pc should be for gaming not home media centre, small business
office and general porn downloads. Buy a laptop for that shizz.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Steffen
Schmolinske
Sent: 15 July 2010 21:00
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS weapon upgrades

/this.
got a few mates with the same trouble (one even with 20 fps on a quad core).
first fix the game, then think about options.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kyle Sanderson" 
To: "Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list" 

Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CSS weapon upgrades


> If it's any consolation, about half my friends cannot play comfortably
> (10-40FPS, where as before it was easily 30-80FPS) anymore.
>
> Sure game play is something to work on, but performance should always be 
> first.
> Kyle.
>
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:31 AM, ics  wrote:
>> According to Steam stats, since CSS OB update, the playercount has gone 
>> much
>> down. Even CS 1.6 has more players these days than CSS. The ratio used to

>> be
>> 1-2 more in favor of CSS in the past. This game needs more than 
>> just
>> engine upgrade. New maps and new features and most importantly of all, a
>> working game. So many players have some sort of issues after the engine
>> change.
>>
>> I don't see weapon upgrades coming.
>>
>> -ics
>>
>> 15.7.2010 18:14, D3vilfish - Simiancage.org kirjoitti:
>>>
>>> Sorry for off topic for srcds but just throwing it out there as an idea.
>>> Do you think valve will bring in weapon upgrades like tf2 style for css.
>>> This could be an opt in/out for server admins so clan wars stay strictly
>>> on
>>> a level playing field but casual/public gaming could have a whole new
>>> lease
>>> of life.
>>> After the engy update we had a big drop in player count on css so maybe 
>>> it
>>> would put a bit of spark back in the game.
>>> Before you all scream "No don't do it" As I said if this is a opt in/out
>>> system I think it could convert alot of tf2 players back into source 
>>> which
>>> have since been lost.
>>> Just a thought!
>>>
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[hlds_linux] CSS weapon upgrades

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Sorry for off topic for srcds but just throwing it out there as an idea.
Do you think valve will bring in weapon upgrades like tf2 style for css.
This could be an opt in/out for server admins so clan wars stay strictly on
a level playing field but casual/public gaming could have a whole new lease
of life.
After the engy update we had a big drop in player count on css so maybe it
would put a bit of spark back in the game.
Before you all scream "No don't do it" As I said if this is a opt in/out
system I think it could convert alot of tf2 players back into source which
have since been lost.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

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Doesn't work, already tested only way to change name now is via your profile
page :(

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jonah Hirsch
Sent: 02 July 2010 09:55
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

So, does the namechange "exploit" mean the "setinfo name newname" command?

Jonah Hirsch
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On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Jake Eisenman
wrote:

> Sorry guys, but racism and freedom of speech policies alone won't
> determine the success or failure of a community, there are too many
> other factors.
>
> And, if yours is running fine with current policies, dont mess with a
> good thing. What works, works.
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On Jul 2, 2010, at 4:29 AM, kama  wrote:
>
> >
> > But at least (if it is not already supported) it allow us to add
> > tags to
> > their name. Either before or/and after their name.
> >
> > I have plugins that allows admins to add and remove an admin tag to
> > their
> > name.
> >
> > Then there is clan tags.
> >
> > And Im with D3vilfish on this one. I dont tolerate bad language or
> > namecalling on our servers. It should be a pleasent game for
> > everyone to
> > enjoy. And once the player understand this, they also mostly behave
> > and
> > after awhile they start to appropriate this as well. Our community
> > members
> > age range is from maybe 10 up to 50+. This has work well since the
> > start
> > at 1999.
> >
> > /Bjorn
> >
> > On Fri, 2 Jul 2010, John Struse wrote:
> >
> >> If you don't want people cursing or whatever on your server, that's
> >> your choice; You can ban whoever you want and it really won't affect
> >> anything; There are hundreds of TF2 servers out there and playing
> >> have
> >> tons of other choices. As an aside, I grew up playing Quake when I
> >> was
> >> 7 and there was all sorts of cursing and abusive stuff on there and
> >> I'd say I turned out fine.
> >>
> >> Clearly Valve is moving towards all games using the Steam profile
> >> name
> >> and they want you to change that if you'd like to change any game
> >> names. I'd say the percentage of people this will negatively affect
> >> is
> >> quite minimal and overall it makes it easier for players to have 1
> >> name to manage.
> >>
> >> Either way, a discussion of morals isn't really conducive to this
> >> topic nor really to the mailing list either.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 3:45 AM, D3vilfish - Simiancage.org
> >>  wrote:
> >>> When you have a child of your own that wants to play online your
> >>> understand
> >>> why Parents black list servers.
> >>> Im all for freedom of speech but abusive and racist players are
> >>> not needed
> >>> or wanted.
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> >>> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
> >>> Allan Button
> >>> Sent: 02 July 2010 08:07
> >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> >>> Cc: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
> >>>
> >>> Do you let women vote on your servers?
> >>>
> >>> How about if somebody specs below the belt line.
> >>>
> >>> Im glad we allow freedom of speach on our servers. Send me your ban
> >>> list so I can invite them all personally to play on a server that
> >>> defends the rights of freedom of speach.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my mobile.
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 2, 2010, at 2:50 AM, "D3vilfish - Simiancage.org"
> >>>  >>>  > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Engine
> >>>>
> >>>> - Removed an exploit that allowed people to change their names to
> >>>> something
> >>>> other than their Steam profile name.
> >>>>
> >>>> Does this now mean that Server Admins will not be able to change
> >>>> players
> >>>> names that are abusive or racist?
> >>>> We have noticed since CSS went O/B th

Re: [hlds_linux] latest CS:S update - segfaults using ./steam

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Updating the kernel shouldn't be a major issue and most probably will work
in your favour for stability and processing speed{take that with a pinch of
salt}
A quick google finds this >
http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/28728-how-patch-kernel.html
Obviously you will have to reboot the server so do it in quite server time
but hopefully you will be in a win win situation.
You may also want to check all your libs are upto date I do know valve
brought in some min reqs a while back but that shouldn't be a problem if the
issue has only just started.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Gibke
Sent: 02 July 2010 03:33
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] latest CS:S update - segfaults using ./steam

My server runs an old version of Linux - Suse 9.0, kernel v2.4.21, 64 bit
mode, circa 2004.
The latest HLDS update tool gets the corresponding "steam" program (v39) and
it only segfaults.
I have been able to run prior to this but have not updated in a while (36
maybe).
I tried all the tricks about deleting the blob files in the ~/.steam
directory and even the directory itself, but to no avail.

Is there a minimum kernel level that the Orange Box version requires to run
now? Up to this point, I have really had no reason to update my OS.
Besides updating kernel & OS, any other suggestions?

...Chuck
cgi...@compuserve.com
 



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Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

When you have a child of your own that wants to play online your understand
why Parents black list servers. 
Im all for freedom of speech but abusive and racist players are not needed
or wanted.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Allan Button
Sent: 02 July 2010 08:07
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Cc: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

Do you let women vote on your servers?

How about if somebody specs below the belt line.

Im glad we allow freedom of speach on our servers. Send me your ban  
list so I can invite them all personally to play on a server that  
defends the rights of freedom of speach.

Sent from my mobile.

On Jul 2, 2010, at 2:50 AM, "D3vilfish - Simiancage.org"
 wrote:

> Engine
>
> - Removed an exploit that allowed people to change their names to  
> something
> other than their Steam profile name.
>
> Does this now mean that Server Admins will not be able to change  
> players
> names that are abusive or racist?
> We have noticed since CSS went O/B that all rename plugins are  
> broken and I
> presume TF2 aswell now.
> Simiancage run family friendly servers, we have a no swearing policy  
> and
> abuse that includes dodgy names is not tolerated.
> I can see our ban list growing at a alarming rate.
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

We try to be forgiving as possible with those that have borderline names
hence a rename is sufficient, those with racist or downright disgusting
names are banned permanently on site.
On a side note it does make you wonder what goes through their heads to
advertise themselves with such names.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ken Anderson
Sent: 02 July 2010 08:18
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

I can see where you're coming from, but do you really want people who would
be inclined to use offensive names on the server at all?

Thanks,
Ken Anderson

On 2/07/2010, at 6:50 PM, "D3vilfish - Simiancage.org"
 wrote:

> Engine
> 
> - Removed an exploit that allowed people to change their names to
something
> other than their Steam profile name.
> 
> Does this now mean that Server Admins will not be able to change players
> names that are abusive or racist?
> We have noticed since CSS went O/B that all rename plugins are broken and
I
> presume TF2 aswell now.
> Simiancage run family friendly servers, we have a no swearing policy and
> abuse that includes dodgy names is not tolerated.
> I can see our ban list growing at a alarming rate.
> 
> 
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Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Engine
 
 - Removed an exploit that allowed people to change their names to something
other than their Steam profile name.

Does this now mean that Server Admins will not be able to change players
names that are abusive or racist?
We have noticed since CSS went O/B that all rename plugins are broken and I
presume TF2 aswell now.
Simiancage run family friendly servers, we have a no swearing policy and
abuse that includes dodgy names is not tolerated.
I can see our ban list growing at a alarming rate.


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[hlds_linux] OB first Impressions

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Double sorry meant to change Subject!


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Re: [hlds_linux] srcds rate settings

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Sorry double post from win32 meant to put this on Linux listing as I've
always ran nix servers.

As a community we derive from back in the days of cs1.2/3/4/5.
When Source first came to our doors we embraced and shunned it at the same
time, we all loved cs1.x but knew source was the way forwards.
So here we are source gone OB, love it or hate it, it's the way forwards.
Lots will argue the 66 tick rule, the numerous faults and god knows what
else but you know after 6 years of running and playing servers im quite
happy css finaly made OB.
It carries Valves support for hopefully plugging holes in what was a dated
engine.
This brings me to one observation that I have seen since CSS going OB.
We run our servers as secure as possible, file perms set to a diff user,
pure list kept tight and whatever sm/mm plugins are available to keep the
servers safe. We have a good group of active admins with experience to clock
dodgy players BUT Since last night we have seen a huge amount of players
join then disconnect, maybe they have bad ping, maybe they don't like that
pure list disabling skins but I have the feeling that nobody realised how
many hackers there were out there.
We used to ban maybe 2 to 5 players a day with the old engine over 3 servers
with dodgy/obvious hacks.
Today we have banned 1 in 24hrs.
I know they will eventually script there sad lives back into cheating but
for now it's just a slice of heaven.
So for the first time in my life I commend valve on bringing CSS up to date
and making it a viable game that will have more attention the same as TF2 &
L4D2.
As for gaming as a client I'm now 37 and past my sell by date for all these
younguns that have lightening quick reactions.


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Re: [hlds_linux] srcds rate settings

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Everybody I've spoken to so far has the same fps as pre OB, I currently get
with vsync off and multi core support on anywhere between 250 to 650 fps my
stress test was 381.33fps on a 4890gfx with win7.
Anyone getting less than playable fps should be looking at a new pc tbh
imho.
As for bandwidth I think we all agree rate hacking is worst than wall
hacking, why people join servers that they have a bad ping/connection to is
their own fault! 

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ulrich Block
Sent: 24 June 2010 21:23
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] srcds rate settings

If you are a rude admin that does not care that many people need to 
adjust their netsettings to their fps/bandwidth yes.
If you take in count that the client fps are lower with orangebox and  
you need to give the users same space to adjust:

sv_minrate 15000
sv_maxrate 4
sv_maxupdaterate 66
sv_minupdaterate 40
sv_maxcmdrate 66
sv_mincmdrate 35



Adam Bogacz schrieb:
> so with new fixed tickrate how rate settings should look like ?
>
> i have this:
>
> fps_max 500
> sv_minrate 25000
> sv_maxrate 25000
> sv_maxupdaterate 66
> sv_minupdaterate 66
> sv_maxcmdrate 66
> sv_mincmdrate 66
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-strike Source Orangebox Update

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Create a file autoexec.cfg in the cstrike/cfg folder and put this in it 

Alias altabfix "record bugfix; wait 15; stop"
bind "F9" "altabfix"

Change F9 to what ever or leave it bound to F9 to use that key.
Don't think wait command will work now but doesn't matter, it fixes a lot of
problems in TF2 as well.


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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of AnAkIn .
Sent: 24 June 2010 12:35
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-strike Source Orangebox Update

That issue is caused by ALT TABbing and is already very known in the OB
Engine. You can fix it by using a bind to "record a;stop".

2010/6/24 FREEZE 

> Having a very funny issue. Lots of players complain about having broken
> models. It often happens that one of the CTs has a T model. So there are
> many TKs. But it can only be seen by a couple of other players and not
> everbody has this issue.
>
> Anybody else experiencing this?
>
> On 24.06.10 10:10, Nathan D. wrote:
> > Works great. I haven't found 1 problem yet, been playing a few hours.
> >
> > Thanks Valve!
> >
> > Nathan D.
> >
> > On 6/24/2010 2:32 AM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:
> >
> >> Couldn't agree more Adam, it's absolutely retarded that this was
> >> pushed with all of the issues that there still are.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Kyle.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Adam Thorn
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I have one word of Advice
> >>> Don't release updates unless they're ready.
> >>> I appreciate it. Thanks!
> >>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

After numerous servers appearing in our steam group a while back, I thought
sod them if valve won't fix it then you might as well join them hence we
list a string of id's for steamgroups.
Valve could fix this with a simple code/password added to the steamgroup
edit page(that only the admin can see and not published to the public) and
games server config, as long as the 2 match then the server will be listed
in that steamgroup ingame.

Sourceop do a similar validation with their steamids for tf2items.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
DontWannaName!
Sent: 12 June 2010 01:31
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released

We have already been over this. Anyone can find the group ID. People
have found L4D2's game group ID and added it to every player in that
groups sees their servers. It almost makes the feature useless since
there will be 20 servers before the ones you want to see.

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Rick Payton  wrote:
> man I can see this being abused quick - wasn't there a way to find the
> Steam group ID?
>
> If so, is there any kind of protection against people putting the ID of
> groups that they shouldn't? If not, just ignore me as usual :P
>
> --mauirixxx
>
>
> -Original Message-
> 
> Server operators can set their server to be in multiple Steam groups by
> separating the id for each group by a comma.
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] updater screwed again?

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Confirmed and consuming disk space again, is this going to be a future
requirement due to mac?

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saint K.
Sent: 07 June 2010 17:30
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: [hlds_linux] updater screwed again?

I'm getting a massive update when I update our tf2 servers, but no version
change on restart. Looks like its downloading some hl2 client files again?

It's downloading a lot of files in /hl2/sound/

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[hlds_linux] CSS Beta release date?

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Is there info on when the beta will go public? Hopefully we won't have to wait 
until On August 18, 2010.


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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

My mistake its showing now, lo0l.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Roman Hatsiev
Sent: 11 May 2010 22:11
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Cc: hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA

And now it says "Thanks for your interest. We've filled the available
slots."
What is the point of releasing beta which is available only for a couple
hours?
I'm still downloading a server but it is useless now since there are quite a
few players in our community who managed to grab the client - it is late
night here...

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Eric Smith wrote:

> COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE UPDATE NOW IN BETA
>
> Available immediately, Valve has launched an extensive update to
> Counter-Strike: Source, now in beta.
>
> The update includes a host of new features and functionality developed in
> collaboration with Hidden Path Studios. These include 144 new
achievements,
> a new domination and revenge system, player stats, and more.
>
> This beta will run for a limited time, and once complete, the update will
> be deployed to all Counter-Strike: Source owners for free via Steam.
>
> The dedicated server files are available via the HLDSUpdateTool using
> "-game cssbeta" in the command line.
>
> For more information, please visit www.steamgames.com<
> http://www.steamgames.com>.
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Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 update

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Yes there is!

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz
Sent: 07 May 2010 14:25
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TF2 server won't start

Pretty sure you cant.  And if they did install it without the Orange Box
engine, the subject definitely explains that.

On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 21:41 +0300, Kaspars wrote:
> just out of curiosity - how does one install team fortress without
> installing OB engine and what is the point of having such an option?
> 
> 2010/5/6 Chad Bishop 
> 
> > Thanks for the replies.
> >
> > @Peter.  Yes, this is just a vanilla install.
> >
> > I'll go for the OB version.
> >
> > Thanks much,
> >
> > -Chad
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Ross Bemrose 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > >  Checking/Installing 'Linux Source HLDS' version 98
> > >
> > > This is the wrong dedicated server version.  TF2 uses the OC Linux
> > > Dedicated Server package now..  For TF2, your packages should be:
> > >
> > > Checking/Installing 'Team Fortress 2 Content' version 144
> > >
> > >
> > > Checking/Installing 'Team Fortress 2 Materials' version 56
> > >
> > >
> > > Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Materials' version 8
> > >
> > >
> > > Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Models' version 4
> > >
> > >
> > > Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Sounds' version 4
> > >
> > >
> > > Checking/Installing 'OB Linux Dedicated Server' version 32
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 5/6/2010 12:55 PM, Chad Bishop wrote:
> > > > Greetings,
> > > >
> > > > After the latest TF2 update and the issues with sourcemod/metamod, I
> > > decided
> > > > to do a fresh install and am now unable to start my server.
> > > >
> > > > Any advice/help/suggestions would be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > -Chad
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >


--
> > > >
> > > > The Goods:
> > > >
> > > > I used the hldsupdatetool.bin to do the install (not Orangebox
> > version).
> > > >
> > > > Server OS: CentOS 5
> > > >
> > > > Start Command:
> > > > nohup ./srcds_run -game tf -ip 173.201.16.98 -port 27015 -timeout 30
> > > > -autoupdate +map plr_pipeline -maxplayers 24 -debug&
> > > >
> > > > Standard output:
> > > > Auto detecting CPU
> > > > Using SSE2 Optimised binary.
> > > > Enabling debug mode
> > > > ./srcds_run: line 139: ulimit: core file size: cannot modify limit:
> > > > Operation not permitted
> > > > Server will auto-restart if there is a crash.
> > > > Updating server using Steam.
> > > > Checking bootstrapper version ...
> > > > Updating Installation
> > > > Checking/Installing 'Team Fortress 2 Content' version 144
> > > > Checking/Installing 'Team Fortress 2 Materials' version 56
> > > > Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Materials' version 8
> > > > Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Models' version 4
> > > > Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Sounds' version 4
> > > > Checking/Installing 'Linux Source HLDS' version 98
> > > > HLDS installation up to date
> > > > ./srcds_run: line 344: 11949 Segmentation fault  $HL_CMD
> > > > cat: hlds.3502.pid: No such file or directory
> > > > email debug.log to li...@valvesoftware.com
> > > > Thu May  6 09:39:23 MST 2010: Server restart in 30 seconds
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Debug log:
> > > > CRASH: Thu May  6 09:39:23 MST 2010
> > > > Start Line: ./srcds_i686 -game tf -ip 173.201.16.98 -port 27015
> > -timeout
> > > 30
> > > > -autoupdate +map plr_pipeline -maxplayers 24 -debug
> > > > End of Source crash report
> > > >
> > > > Versions / OS:
> > > >
> > > > $ gcc -v
> > > > Using built-in specs.
> > > > Target: i386-redhat-linux
> > > > Configured with: ../configure --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man
> > > > --infodir=/usr/share/info --enable-shared --enable-threads=posix
> > > > --enable-checking=release --with-system-zlib --enable-__cxa_atexit
> > > > --disable-libunwind-exceptions --enable-libgcj-multifile
> > > > --enable-languages=c,c++,objc,obj-c++,java,fortran,ada
> > > --enable-java-awt=gtk
> > > > --disable-dssi --enable-plugin
> > > > --with-java-home=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-1.4.2.0/jre
> > > --with-cpu=generic
> > > > --host=i386-redhat-linux
> > > > Thread model: posix
> > > > gcc version 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-46)
> > > >
> > > > $ ldd --version
> > > > ldd (GNU libc) 2.5
> > > > Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> > > > This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There
is
> > > NO
> > > > warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
> > > PURPOSE.
> > > > Written by Roland McGrath and Ulrich Drepper.
> > > >
> > > > $ uname -a
> > > > Linux ip-173-201-16-98.ip.secureserver.net 2.6.18-028stab059.6 #1
SMP
> > > Fri
> > > > Nov 1

Re: [hlds_linux] Multiple sentries

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Kellaway
Sent: 29 April 2010 21:27
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Multiple sentries

Here's a Sourcemod plugin I threw together that blocks the exploit (source
is included):

http://davejk.net/crap/sourcemod/engyblock.zip

---
Dave Kellaway
 
On Thursday, April 29, 2010, at 08:47PM, "D3vilfish - Simiancage.org"
 wrote:
>Just counted 27 sentries on 1 side on our server!
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of doc
>Sent: 29 April 2010 20:26
>To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Multiple sentries
>
>Yes I just caught half my server doing this crap.
>There are youtube videos and google results all over for this.
>
>On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Bajdechi "Nightbox" Alexandru
> wrote:
>> With the new update, you can build multiple sentries using console. I
>won't
>> say here because this list is public.
>>
>> Sorry if is already posted.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Multiple sentries

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Just counted 27 sentries on 1 side on our server!


-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of doc
Sent: 29 April 2010 20:26
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Multiple sentries

Yes I just caught half my server doing this crap.
There are youtube videos and google results all over for this.

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Bajdechi "Nightbox" Alexandru
 wrote:
> With the new update, you can build multiple sentries using console. I
won't
> say here because this list is public.
>
> Sorry if is already posted.
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Re: [hlds_linux] sourcemod l4d2

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Strange we've found more stability in the latest snaps of MM & SM than we
had before.
We will all be waiting to help you when you have a LINUX server related
problem!
Facepalm!

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Steven
Crothers
Sent: 25 April 2010 21:43
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] sourcemod l4d2

ICS,

No I'm not new, I've been actively reading this list daily for about 2-3
years now.

Yes, this list is for server operators, no this list is not about trunk
versions of plugins that are released by third parties on a different site
with a completely different form of support (irc, forums, and wiki).

Since SourceMod does NOT work with its stable version on L4D2, it is
beneficial to ask the SourceMod team, since the data they will get from the
questions or users will be helpful.

This is hlds_linux, not hlds_linux + mod support for third party mods and
svn code.

If you generalize all the topics, then nothing will ever be on topic. It
might as well be the steampowered forums.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 4:19 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] sourcemod l4d2

Are you people new around here on this list? This is for server 
operators and everything that is in those servers. Since plugins are 
supported, there is no reason why talk about them wouldn't be allowed 
here includign someone asking help. While he may find better help from 
sourcemod forums, someone here might also be helping.

No need to be rude to one another.

-ics

25.4.2010 23:09, Steven Crothers kirjoitti:
> Radu,
>
> There is no reason to be such a dickhead...
>
> Sourcemod questions should be asked at sourcemod's website, this list is
not
> support for Sourcemod or any other mod for that matter. This list is for
the
> hlds_linux only.
>
> Hopefully Valve see's this and disables your account.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Radu Suciu
> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 3:58 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] sourcemod l4d2
>
> Bullshit asshole, this list is for server admins. Metamod and sourcemod
> questions are fair game - who the fuck decided that you're in charge of
the
> content that goes on this list?
>
> That said, I'm not running any l4d2 servers at the moment so I can't help
> you with that. You should still try the sourcemod forums as well as
> #sourcemod on IRC but there's no reason why you wouldn't share this with
> people on this list.
>
> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Claudio Beretta
> wrote:
>
>
>> Questions related to metamod/sourcemod should be asked in the allied
>> modders
>> forums ( http://forums.alliedmods.net/ ) not in this mailing list, and
>> after
>> reading the documentation
>> http://wiki.alliedmods.net/Installing_Metamod:Source
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Piotr Syrenicz
>> wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I am trying to run metamod with sourcemod on my left 4 dead 2 server,
>>> after typing in gameinfo.txt  ( GameBin
>>> |gameinfo_path|addons/metamod/bin ) the sourcemod wont start.  Before
>>> the last update all works fine, but after each update I have to type it
>>> again because there is new gameinfo.txt written instead. Is there a way
>>> to run metamod with sourcemod in other way?
>>>
>>> any help would be appreciate
>>>
>>> thx in advance
>>>
>>>
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Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released -- UPDATE SERVERS SCREWED!!

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

That will be the uk ;)

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Riemers
Sent: 23 April 2010 01:11
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released -- UPDATE 
SERVERS SCREWED!!

Tip: for the client, just change your download location (in settings ofcourse) 
to a country where they dont have 100mbit to every house.

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Van: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Namens Jonah Hirsch
Verzonden: vrijdag 23 april 2010 2:02
Aan: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Onderwerp: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released -- UPDATE 
SERVERS SCREWED!!

My server is still having trouble downloading..i left it updating for 2
hours, and it didn't finish. My client (different location) is also having
trouble downloading the update. I've been at a constant 5 kB/s for 3 hours.
Jonah Hirsch
---


On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Joshua Smith  wrote:

> Thanks for the reply's guys, just to verify is this the correct version for
> the latest update? 2.0.1.2 4184 ? If so i believe one server finally got
> it.
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Zuko  wrote:
>
> > my servers works like a charm
> >
> > 2010/4/23 Jorgen :
> > > Yea i got 3 of 7 servers finished with the updates but SM and MMS are
> > broken
> > > until they do some updates on the addons... but servers work like a
> > charm.
> > >
> > > -Jørgen
> > >
> > > Where Gamers Dear!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Joshua
> > Smith
> > > Sent: 23. april 2010 00:44
> > > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released --
> UPDATE
> > > SERVERS SCREWED!!
> > >
> > > Has anyone been able to successfully update a server yet? I've made it
> to
> > > "HLDS installation up to date" but depending on the machine i get
> > anything
> > > from: #Unable to find gameinfo.txt to: ERROR: Source engine binary
> > > './srcds_linux' not executable, exiting.  All on machines that are
> > > supposedly completely up to date always using -verify_all during
> update.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Eric Riemers 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> A new record, 6kb/s.. valve really should learn from this and preload
> > >> servers.. or a heads up, normally Jason would send out a mail saying a
> > >> update was about to come (that would have helped some too)
> > >>
> > >> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> > >> Van: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > >> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Namens oGre
> > >> Verzonden: donderdag 22 april 2010 23:29
> > >> Aan: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> > >> Onderwerp: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released --
> > UPDATE
> > >> SERVERS SCREWED!!
> > >>
> > >> Yes,
> > >>
> > >> The update system is screwed. I tried to update our servers:
> > >>
> > >> Checking bootstrapper version ...
> > >> Updating Installation
> > >> Retrying in 30 seconds. . .
> > >> Retrying in 30 seconds. . .
> > >> Updating 'left 4 dead 2 linux dedicated server' from version 15 to
> > version
> > >> 17
> > >>
> > >> Then it started only to try to update another section
> > >>
> > >> Updating server using Steam.
> > >> Checking bootstrapper version ...
> > >> Updating Installation
> > >> Retrying in 30 seconds. . .
> > >> Retrying in 30 seconds. . .
> > >> Server will auto-restart if there is a crash.
> > >> INFO: Located steam: /home/l4d2server/steam
> > >> Updating server using Steam.
> > >> Checking bootstrapper version ...
> > >> Updating Installation
> > >> -- 0:srcds_run -- time-stamp -- Apr/22/10 23:02:45 --
> > >> -- 0:srcds_run -- time-stamp -- Apr/22/10 23:06:25 --
> > >> Updating 'left 4 dead 2 common' from version 19 to version 21
> > >>
> > >> It has downloaded like 2% when my game client is done with the
> > >> install! The server is on a dedicated 100/100 Mbit and I'm on 18Mbit
> > >> DSL. The server update should be published a few hours ahead.
> > >> Seriously.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2010/4/22 Saint K. :
> > >> > On Linux machine 1:
> > >> > 0.07%   /home/hosted/l4d2//left4dead2\bin\adminserver.dll
> > >> > 0.11%   /home/hosted/l4d2//left4dead2\bin\bsppack.dll
> > >> > 0.12%   /home/hosted/l4d2//left4dead2\bin\bugreporter_public.dll
> > >> > 0.14%   /home/hosted/l4d2//left4dead2\bin\datacache.dll
> > >> > 0.47%   /home/hosted/l4d2//left4dead2\bin\engine.dll
> > >> >
> > >> > On Linux machine 2:
> > >> > 0.24%   /home/l4d2_4//left4dead2\bin\datacache.so
> > >> > 0.50%   /home/l4d2_4//left4dead2\bin\dedicated.so
> > >> >
> > >> > On Linux machine 3:
> > >> > 0.08%   /home/l4d2_2//left4dead2\bin\addoninstaller.exe
> > >

Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released -- UPDATE SERVERS SCREWED!!

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Wait till Valve bring out an update for L4D2 & TF2 @ the same time then
we'll really see their Godley prowess!

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Eric Riemers
Sent: 22 April 2010 22:56
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released -- UPDATE
SERVERS SCREWED!!

A new record, 6kb/s.. valve really should learn from this and preload
servers.. or a heads up, normally Jason would send out a mail saying a
update was about to come (that would have helped some too)

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Namens oGre
Verzonden: donderdag 22 april 2010 23:29
Aan: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Onderwerp: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released -- UPDATE
SERVERS SCREWED!!

Yes,

The update system is screwed. I tried to update our servers:

Checking bootstrapper version ...
Updating Installation
Retrying in 30 seconds. . .
Retrying in 30 seconds. . .
Updating 'left 4 dead 2 linux dedicated server' from version 15 to version
17

Then it started only to try to update another section

Updating server using Steam.
Checking bootstrapper version ...
Updating Installation
Retrying in 30 seconds. . .
Retrying in 30 seconds. . .
Server will auto-restart if there is a crash.
INFO: Located steam: /home/l4d2server/steam
Updating server using Steam.
Checking bootstrapper version ...
Updating Installation
-- 0:srcds_run -- time-stamp -- Apr/22/10 23:02:45 --
-- 0:srcds_run -- time-stamp -- Apr/22/10 23:06:25 --
Updating 'left 4 dead 2 common' from version 19 to version 21

It has downloaded like 2% when my game client is done with the
install! The server is on a dedicated 100/100 Mbit and I'm on 18Mbit
DSL. The server update should be published a few hours ahead.
Seriously.


2010/4/22 Saint K. :
> On Linux machine 1:
> 0.07%   /home/hosted/l4d2//left4dead2\bin\adminserver.dll
> 0.11%   /home/hosted/l4d2//left4dead2\bin\bsppack.dll
> 0.12%   /home/hosted/l4d2//left4dead2\bin\bugreporter_public.dll
> 0.14%   /home/hosted/l4d2//left4dead2\bin\datacache.dll
> 0.47%   /home/hosted/l4d2//left4dead2\bin\engine.dll
>
> On Linux machine 2:
> 0.24%   /home/l4d2_4//left4dead2\bin\datacache.so
> 0.50%   /home/l4d2_4//left4dead2\bin\dedicated.so
>
> On Linux machine 3:
> 0.08%   /home/l4d2_2//left4dead2\bin\addoninstaller.exe
> 1.38%   /home/l4d2_2//left4dead2\bin\datacache.so
> 2.87%   /home/l4d2_2//left4dead2\bin\dedicated.so
> 11.15%  /home/l4d2_2//left4dead2\bin\engine.so
> 12.45%  /home/l4d2_2//left4dead2\bin\filesystem_stdio.so
> 12.50%  /home/l4d2_2//left4dead2\bin\libsteam_api.so
>
> 3 machines, same OS, same l4d2 version, 3 different update results at
start.
>
> Notcie the DLL files at Linux 1 WTF???
>
> Saint K.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Saint K.
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:12 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released
>
> Just release the server files a hour ahead. That gives us time to update,
and clients need to wait less long. Still can't get any update going on the
servers.
>
> Saint K.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:05 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead 2 Update Released
>
> I know what you mean. There should be server files released in advance
> or some dedicated hosts for server owners where to download the games
> and game updates from.
>
> Now whenever clients get their games updated, they hit a wall which is
> lack of servers, wait on lobbies and get frustrated. They blame Valve,
> we blame Valve too. It would be in everyone's best interests to make it
> happen.
>
> -ics
>
> 22.4.2010 23:52, D4rKr0W kirjoitti:
>> Il 22/04/2010 22:49, ics ha scritto:
>>
>>> Doesn't really help, much. Steam.cfg into folder where steam binary is,
>>> in it, you put:
>>>
>>> PreferredContentServerIDs = ""
>>>
>>> In which the content servers are from here
>>> http://store.steampowered.com/stats/content/
>>>
>>> Like 4 8 15 16 23 42
>>>
>>> -ics
>>>
>>>
>> Changing it on the client helped me quite a bit, maybe i'll have some
>> luck. Better than sitting here lookin at this:
>> Checking bootstrapper version ...
>> Updating Installation
>> Retrying in 30 seconds. . .
>> Retrying in 30 seconds. . .
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Re: [hlds_linux] Cannot run multiple L4D1 servers

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Just a little side note to my last post also create a empty server.cfg ( I
forget why I done this but there was a reason at the time) and a base
install of sourcemod in its default locations with minimal plugins loaded
otherwise it won't load the sourcemod engine.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
zeev...@bezeqint.net
Sent: 16 April 2010 13:05
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] Cannot run multiple L4D1 servers

Hi. I want to run more than one Left4Dead1 server, with
different configs. But the problem is that all my servers use
only the first config and appear with the same host name and
game type

./srcds_run l4d -autoupdate +ip xxx.xx.xx.xx +hostport 27204
+exec server2.cfg +map l4d_farm01_hilltop &

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Re: [hlds_linux] Cannot run multiple L4D1 servers

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Or if you want to use the old school way of starting servers just add >
+sm_basepath addons/sourcemod1 +servercfgfile server1.cfg to specify sm base
directory in the addons directory and server config to be used in the cfg
folder.

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zeev...@bezeqint.net
Sent: 16 April 2010 13:05
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] Cannot run multiple L4D1 servers

Hi. I want to run more than one Left4Dead1 server, with
different configs. But the problem is that all my servers use
only the first config and appear with the same host name and
game type

./srcds_run l4d -autoupdate +ip xxx.xx.xx.xx +hostport 27204
+exec server2.cfg +map l4d_farm01_hilltop &

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[hlds_linux] Master server listing.

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

The current Issue with our TF2 servers dropping off the Master server
listing is killing our servers.
Will there be a fix for this in the near future or should we start croning
quit commands to restart the servers.
What were servers filling up by midday will currently stay empty until
restarted.
This is obviously nix box centos 5.2, setting a heart beat on cron has no
effect.
Any advice on this or a eta from Valve would be good.


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Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Coming

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Thankyou!

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen
Sent: 03 February 2010 21:49
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list';
'h...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Coming

Required updates for Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source are on the
way.  They should be live in about 1 hour.

Jason

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Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 Assertion Failed

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

My apologies, I wasn't being an ass, just frigged off with the assertion
fail crud.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz
Sent: 20 November 2009 20:37
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 Assertion Failed

Because I found a google post on some website regarding that error.

No need to be an ass

On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 20:07 +0000, D3vilfish - Simiancage.org wrote:
> There are no plugins available for l4d2, yes you can run metamod but with
no
> sourcemod whats the point?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz
> Sent: 20 November 2009 19:36
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 Assertion Failed
> 
> What plugins are you using?
> 
> -f0rkz
> 
> On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 19:20 +, D3vilfish - Simiancage.org wrote:
> > Anyone getting assertion failed infite loop crashing there servers and
any
> > idea what it is with the utlmemory?
> >  
> > utlmemory.h (322) : Assertion Failed: IsIdxValid(i)
> > D3v
> > 
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Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 Assertion Failed

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

There are no plugins available for l4d2, yes you can run metamod but with no
sourcemod whats the point?

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of f0rkz
Sent: 20 November 2009 19:36
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 Assertion Failed

What plugins are you using?

-f0rkz

On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 19:20 +, D3vilfish - Simiancage.org wrote:
> Anyone getting assertion failed infite loop crashing there servers and any
> idea what it is with the utlmemory?
>  
> utlmemory.h (322) : Assertion Failed: IsIdxValid(i)
> D3v
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Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 Assertion Failed

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

Anyone getting assertion failed infite loop crashing there servers and any
idea what it is with the utlmemory?
 
utlmemory.h (322) : Assertion Failed: IsIdxValid(i)
D3v


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Re: [hlds_linux] Left 4 Dead 2 Dedicated Server versus mode

[D3vilfish - Simiancage.org]

We have only been able to get versus 8 player to work if
sv_steamgroup_exclusive  is set to 0 on nix box, anyone had any joy in
starting a dedicated server in versus mode.
Have sv_gametypes "versus" set in commandline and config and ssh console
reports:-

 sv_gametypes
 "sv_gametypes" = "versus" ( def. "" )
 game - Allowable game types, usually set on server launch command line.

Yet it still starts in coop and can't be changed if set to exclusive :( D3v
  


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Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[D3vilfish]

I for one as a server admin and long time clan/community player from pre
valve cstrike disagree with the concept of achievement/idle servers, for
those that think it's great to get unlocks by nefarious means to me suggest
a lack of personal morals. Why are people so hell bent on gaining unlocks
when they are in time there if they just play the game which is all Valve is
trying to keep. Gains made by any other means in my mind is one step down
from using cheats in game and I have no pity for those that have lost items
for using the above methods. I'm sure it will not deter certain communities
on striving to buck the system so I shall carry on regardless knowing my own
morals stay intact.
The only comment I have that I think has made TF2 unplayable for myself at
the moment is how over powered the scout is currently, maybe Valve have a
future plan on this or just that the tests they have done don't collate to
real world environment, hopefully this is something that will be addressed
in the near future.
It is only a game
& it is supposed to be fun!


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Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available

[D3vilfish]

Lo0l Valve don't need to fix anything, that you have time drift on your
server and use ntp to correct it is your problem not valves. Either disable
ntp or reboot the server with the stock kernel as your high tic kernel is
causing your drift.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ronny
Schedel
Sent: 16 July 2009 14:31
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available


I reverted the binaries back to the previuos version and it runs fine. So 
Valve has time to fix it, because this update is optional.


> What he said, it's much easier for you to disable the NTP service than
> it is to wait for another CS1.6 update. Unless there is something
> hellishly wrong with your server you shouldn't need NTP anyway.
>
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> m...@bestgn.net.au wrote:
>> Remove the ntp service,
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ronny
>> Schedel
>> Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2009 10:02 PM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available
>>
>>
>> I don't care what happens, the fact is the server stops and does not 
>> respond
>>
>> after this. I get these messages also in HL2/OB based servers and they 
>> run
>> without any problem. So we need a fix for this.
>>
>>
>>> Looks like ntp drift to me,
>>>
>>> Must be running high ticrate?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
>>> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ronny
>>> Schedel
>>> Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2009 8:52 PM
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Counter-Strike 1.6 Update Available
>>>
>>>
>>> There is a seriuos problem with this update, the server stops after the
>>> message:
>>> Warning: system time went backward by 1 seconds
>>>
>>>
 An optional update for Counter-Strike/Condition Zero is now available.
 Please run hldsupdatetool to receive.  This update was previously
 available as a beta.  The specific changes are:

 Half-Life Engine
 - Added -sys_ticrate command line option to allowed forced override of
 ticrate
 - Prevent more cases of server redirection

 CS/CZ
 - Added -nobots option to allow forced override of bots on servers

 Jason

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Re: [hlds_linux] Lotus.clan

[D3vilfish]

Your disillusion of yourself obviously shows with your first statement.
As pointed out by members on that thread filling a server with fake clients
1. May get you delisted
2. Doesn't give a good experience for the end user.
Hence why you FAIL.
Then lets look at your next comment about top ranked clan servers!
How exactly do you think they be came top ranked, was it through word and
mouth of running good servers and building a community to support the
players so they enjoy playing there?
NO they con players on to there servers showing servers virtually full even
when there virtually empty. Unfortunately so many unsuspecting publics join
and make a snow ball effect, as we've all pointed out before if a server
only has 2 or 20 players on it at least when someone random joins they know
that.
Hence why servers listing fake connections to populate there servers are
also FAIL.
The affect that this has on the genuine games community is 2 fold.
1. Random publics are enticed onto substandard servers and don't join good
community servers.
2. The publics then have a bad gaming experience which generally will change
there point of view of said game in a negative way.

Someone pointed out what does this have to do with running servers, this has
everything to-do with running servers. This has to-do with running good
servers to meet the needs of the end user because that is how real player
bases & communities are built unlike the con artists of XXL & Lotus!

Im an average guy I work hard for a living and ive been running our games
community as a interest for over 5 years which we started with as a
cs1.2/3/4/5/6 clan and slowly built up from there, its like being shafted
every time I turn the pc on to see these idiots abusing the gaming community
in general.
Peace to all genuine admins let the rest rot in hell!

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane
Sent: 07 June 2009 11:55
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Lotus.clan

Lotus is awesome. I'm awesome and you clearly suck :D.

There's a bunch of servers with fake players that aren't delisted. Remember
there's a public fake player plugin that hasn't been broken. Anyone is free
to use it:
https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=74304

Go around joining some of the top ranked servers run by random clams and
type in "meta list" in console and you'll see.

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 2:23 AM, D3vilfish  wrote:

>
>
> Isn't it time that like Q clan valve stepped in and sorted out lotus clan.
> Using tactics to fill there servers with fake connections is never going
to
> give the client end user a good gaming experience. Joining a server 25/32
> and finding nobody is actually on the server is exactly what the delisting
> was all about yet Lotus bypassed the whole rating showing there actual
> servers with real connections in all valve/3rd party browsers  desktop, in
> game, hlsw.
> There servers performance isn't particularly good there website is a mess
> and all there doing is conning money from end users for so called popular
> servers.
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Lotus.clan

[D3vilfish]

Q clans official statement was that they quit while on top but it seems to
most that due to Q clan having server/steam issues that it fell inline with
valves test on delisting, lets also not forget the money they made by
deception and miss use of valve software would be enough for valve to slap a
law suit on them and take them for everything they had and some!

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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Octo
Sent: 07 June 2009 08:05
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Lotus.clan

Did valve actually kill off the Q Clan?  I thought Qosis just got tired
of running game servers.  Lotus Clan servers show their fake players as ?
in hlsw for me.  


On Sun, Jun 07, 2009 at 07:23:07AM +0100, D3vilfish wrote:
> 
> 
> Isn't it time that like Q clan valve stepped in and sorted out lotus clan.
> Using tactics to fill there servers with fake connections is never going
to
> give the client end user a good gaming experience. Joining a server 25/32
> and finding nobody is actually on the server is exactly what the delisting
> was all about yet Lotus bypassed the whole rating showing there actual
> servers with real connections in all valve/3rd party browsers  desktop, in
> game, hlsw.
> There servers performance isn't particularly good there website is a mess
> and all there doing is conning money from end users for so called popular
> servers.
> 
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[hlds_linux] Lotus.clan

[D3vilfish]

Isn't it time that like Q clan valve stepped in and sorted out lotus clan.
Using tactics to fill there servers with fake connections is never going to
give the client end user a good gaming experience. Joining a server 25/32
and finding nobody is actually on the server is exactly what the delisting
was all about yet Lotus bypassed the whole rating showing there actual
servers with real connections in all valve/3rd party browsers  desktop, in
game, hlsw.
There servers performance isn't particularly good there website is a mess
and all there doing is conning money from end users for so called popular
servers.


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Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[D3vilfish]

I played for roughly 8 hours got 3 new unlocks and 2 duplicates, as posted
already these will be tradable in the future.
One thing I am not is frustrated, my wife makes sure of that ;).
There are some adults here that still consider it was wrong for good players
to grind achievement servers just so they had all the unlocks within a
matter of hours to gain advantage over the average Joe public.
To put it in context:- You own and drive a very good 4*4 if you had to drive
from A to B you would use the roads provided by your countries government,
what you would not do however is drive cross countryside fields just to get
there quicker.

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[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of HoundDawg
Sent: 22 May 2009 19:51
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

Not sure if you quite understand why so many are frustrated.  Players don't
need to randomly get items they already have.  It's becoming quite a chore
to constantly remove them from the backpack.  I, myself, have played for
over 5 hours since release and have not seen 1 new unlock.  
But, I have received plenty of other items.  Sure, this method will be great
for all of the new players during this free TF2 Memorial weekend, but I'll
be one of the frustrated players that see free new players getting the
unlocks long before I get them.

Gratz on your Ambassador though.  I'm sure that you'll enjoy having all 10
of them eventually.  Too bad you can't duel wield anything.

--
HoundDawg (a.k.a. UnluckyDawg)

UnitedAdmins.com
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/UACommunity


D3vilfish wrote:
> Running 4 tf2 servers today Ive seen plenty of people get spy & sniper 
> unlocks.
> I personally love my Ambassadors gun its one huge cannon.!
> Many are complaining about the new unlock system but I bet the 
> majority of them have all been on achievement servers. Now they will 
> just have to sit back play the game and wait for the unlocks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of AnAkIn .
> Sent: 22 May 2009 17:14
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
>
> I have 3 sandvich now. :/
>
> Still no spy/sniper unlocks.
>
> 2009/5/22 Miano, Steven M. 
>
>   


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Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

[D3vilfish]

Running 4 tf2 servers today Ive seen plenty of people get spy & sniper
unlocks.
I personally love my Ambassadors gun its one huge cannon.!
Many are complaining about the new unlock system but I bet the majority of
them have all been on achievement servers. Now they will just have to sit
back play the game and wait for the unlocks.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of AnAkIn .
Sent: 22 May 2009 17:14
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

I have 3 sandvich now. :/

Still no spy/sniper unlocks.

2009/5/22 Miano, Steven M. 

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Re: [hlds_linux] Server Ranking

[D3vilfish]

I agree whole heartedly, especially with lotus.clan and there 25 fake
connections as can be seen by this screen grab.
http://devilfish.t35.com/lotus.clan.jpg
Filling a server in this way doesn't give the client a good gaming
experience yet does fill there servers, I have highlighted the only
information that I believe to be the SM plugin that they use to create these
25 fake connections sm_ps_version 0.3.
Hopefully valve will look into the lotus.clan like they did with the Q.clan
and manually remove them too.
As a Server administrator with over 5 years of experience I find people like
this almost as frustrating as it must be for the clients that join such
servers.


-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Octo
Sent: 09 April 2009 03:17
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server Ranking

Their current system will obviously clear out a lot of the garbage redirect
servers, but I think they'll need to plink a few of the higher profile
servers which lie about player counts in order to get the point across
that they are serious about the users experience.  Some of these
servers have been lying for such a long time, they've amassed enough
regulars
where they score above valves threshold, which sucks for everyone because
their regulars would play anyways, and the newer players still get the
crappy join -> huge difference in claimed vs real players -> quit
frustrated.

As someone said before there is a lot of 'racing to the bottom' between
servers operators, and as long as they see that places like Lotus Clan
can get away with it, people are going to continue trying to do it.

Maybe Valve is planning on another wave of master server list drops
right before the sniper update to teach them all a lesson =)

I am very happy that they did wipe out a lot of the spamtastic fake servers
though.  Kudos for that.


On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 08:34:05PM -0500, Cc2iscooL wrote:
> They had said before that previously it was manual and that they were
going
> to make it automated eventually but it hadn't been done yet.
> 
> I'm assuming they're still doing it manually as I've not seen any other
> updates.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Carl  wrote:
> 
> > So, is the server score in effect?  There seem to be more and more
> > servers that falsify their players.  Any word on this?
> >
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