Re[2]: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv
Hello, I tried this recently (once a few months ago and once today, btw) and it doesn't work. hltv_connect won't connect to the real srcds's HLTV or even print something. sits there, just like somebody did an alias hltv_connect wait; on the server. Sunday, January 9, 2005, 5:39:28 PM, you wrote: PL I asked Martin Otten about this some time ago, he told me this: PL To start a lightweight HLTV server, slave proxy just start srcds but PL without loading a map, just add hltv_connect ip:port. These relay PL proxies doesn't load any resources like maps or models, so they are PL cheap resource wise. PL So to have HLTV on SRC as it was in HL1, start the server with sv_hltv PL 1, hltv_maxclients 1 and then start another SRCDS without map, PL hltv_connect server:port and then this second SRCDS is the like the PL master proxy in HL1. -- disq ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv
Do you mean this? hltv_stop - stops HLTV broadcasting hltv_stoprecord - stops recording (even if hltv_autorecord is 1) If you mean UDP listening on (default) channel 27020, have you tried hltv_port 0? I did not tried yet, but it may work... cheers, The Fool Hi all, Is there any mean to deactivate the sv_hltv cvar ? By deactivate, I *don't* mean to set it to 0, because it could be set to 1 by customers. It should exist a srcds flag like -nohltv so that it would not listen at all. I hope it will be fixed, as nothing should be enabled instead it is said so. Thanks in advance, -- grosnours http://www.gameonline.net/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv
Although those commands are useful, server companies need a way to disable hltv altogether so customers cant just activate it from rcon or a config file. hltv_port doesn't seem to work in the command line. Gavin Rodgers (BlueHawk^4u) 4u-servers.co.uk 4u-servers.net (forums) 4u-mobile.co.uk (ringtones logos ..) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Fool Sent: 09 January 2005 10:45 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv Do you mean this? hltv_stop - stops HLTV broadcasting hltv_stoprecord - stops recording (even if hltv_autorecord is 1) If you mean UDP listening on (default) channel 27020, have you tried hltv_port 0? I did not tried yet, but it may work... cheers, The Fool Hi all, Is there any mean to deactivate the sv_hltv cvar ? By deactivate, I *don't* mean to set it to 0, because it could be set to 1 by customers. It should exist a srcds flag like -nohltv so that it would not listen at all. I hope it will be fixed, as nothing should be enabled instead it is said so. Thanks in advance, -- grosnours http://www.gameonline.net/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv
It's not a command line cmd. You have to put it in your game.cfg or server.cfg I see a bit of chance that hltv_port 0 in game.cfg disables hltv UDP port... Some ideas for workaround: - I'm not sure game server starts up if you do this, but what if you disable port 27020 on your firewall? - If hltv_port 0 works in game.cfg, you can set the file to 444. The users still can set things in server.cfg, but hltv is disabled. On the other hand, if you're a server company, you can fix in the contract that hltv port should remain disabled... These all just tips ;) - If we just wait for steam... cheers, The Fool Although those commands are useful, server companies need a way to disable hltv altogether so customers cant just activate it from rcon or a config file. hltv_port doesn't seem to work in the command line. Gavin Rodgers (BlueHawk^4u) 4u-servers.co.uk 4u-servers.net (forums) 4u-mobile.co.uk (ringtones logos ..) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Fool Sent: 09 January 2005 10:45 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv Do you mean this? hltv_stop - stops HLTV broadcasting hltv_stoprecord - stops recording (even if hltv_autorecord is 1) If you mean UDP listening on (default) channel 27020, have you tried hltv_port 0? I did not tried yet, but it may work... cheers, The Fool Hi all, Is there any mean to deactivate the sv_hltv cvar ? By deactivate, I *don't* mean to set it to 0, because it could be set to 1 by customers. It should exist a srcds flag like -nohltv so that it would not listen at all. I hope it will be fixed, as nothing should be enabled instead it is said so. Thanks in advance, -- grosnours http://www.gameonline.net/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv
But then the Customers need a solution to use their own HLTV Server or free HLTV Server´s from blank-tv or hltv.org. At the moment it´s impossible to connect with an HLTV Server to an other Gamerserver, if the integrated HLTV on the Gamerserver is not running :/ Although those commands are useful, server companies need a way to disable hltv altogether so customers cant just activate it from rcon or a config file. hltv_port doesn't seem to work in the command line. Gavin Rodgers (BlueHawk^4u) 4u-servers.co.uk 4u-servers.net (forums) 4u-mobile.co.uk (ringtones logos ..) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Fool Sent: 09 January 2005 10:45 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv Do you mean this? hltv_stop - stops HLTV broadcasting hltv_stoprecord - stops recording (even if hltv_autorecord is 1) If you mean UDP listening on (default) channel 27020, have you tried hltv_port 0? I did not tried yet, but it may work... cheers, The Fool Hi all, Is there any mean to deactivate the sv_hltv cvar ? By deactivate, I *don't* mean to set it to 0, because it could be set to 1 by customers. It should exist a srcds flag like -nohltv so that it would not listen at all. I hope it will be fixed, as nothing should be enabled instead it is said so. Thanks in advance, -- grosnours http://www.gameonline.net/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Leif mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv
That's correct. I give up then, sry. This is a dead lock. Steam have to write some code ;) But then the Customers need a solution to use their own HLTV Server or free HLTV Server´s from blank-tv or hltv.org. At the moment it´s impossible to connect with an HLTV Server to an other Gamerserver, if the integrated HLTV on the Gamerserver is not running :/ Although those commands are useful, server companies need a way to disable hltv altogether so customers cant just activate it from rcon or a config file. hltv_port doesn't seem to work in the command line. Gavin Rodgers (BlueHawk^4u) 4u-servers.co.uk 4u-servers.net (forums) 4u-mobile.co.uk (ringtones logos ..) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Fool Sent: 09 January 2005 10:45 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv Do you mean this? hltv_stop - stops HLTV broadcasting hltv_stoprecord - stops recording (even if hltv_autorecord is 1) If you mean UDP listening on (default) channel 27020, have you tried hltv_port 0? I did not tried yet, but it may work... cheers, The Fool Hi all, Is there any mean to deactivate the sv_hltv cvar ? By deactivate, I *don't* mean to set it to 0, because it could be set to 1 by customers. It should exist a srcds flag like -nohltv so that it would not listen at all. I hope it will be fixed, as nothing should be enabled instead it is said so. Thanks in advance, grosnours http://www.gameonline.net/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv
I asked Martin Otten about this some time ago, he told me this: To start a lightweight HLTV server, slave proxy just start srcds but without loading a map, just add hltv_connect ip:port. These relay proxies doesn't load any resources like maps or models, so they are cheap resource wise. SRC HLTV is naked right now. Once CS:S networking is stable (it already is quite stable), more and more features will be added. If people use sv_hltv 1 on their server to record demos, but don't want people to connect as spectators, they can set 'hltv_maxclients 0'. I will add a a new command hltv_relayonly to allow only other relay proxies to the master server and not spectators. So to have HLTV on SRC as it was in HL1, start the server with sv_hltv 1, hltv_maxclients 1 and then start another SRCDS without map, hltv_connect server:port and then this second SRCDS is the like the master proxy in HL1. I dont think its perfect, but atleast its better than nothing. Regards Per Lambæk www.HLTV.org Leif wrote: But then the Customers need a solution to use their own HLTV Server or free HLTV Server´s from blank-tv or hltv.org. At the moment it´s impossible to connect with an HLTV Server to an other Gamerserver, if the integrated HLTV on the Gamerserver is not running :/ Although those commands are useful, server companies need a way to disable hltv altogether so customers cant just activate it from rcon or a config file. hltv_port doesn't seem to work in the command line. Gavin Rodgers (BlueHawk^4u) 4u-servers.co.uk 4u-servers.net (forums) 4u-mobile.co.uk (ringtones logos ..) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Fool Sent: 09 January 2005 10:45 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv Do you mean this? hltv_stop - stops HLTV broadcasting hltv_stoprecord - stops recording (even if hltv_autorecord is 1) If you mean UDP listening on (default) channel 27020, have you tried hltv_port 0? I did not tried yet, but it may work... cheers, The Fool Hi all, Is there any mean to deactivate the sv_hltv cvar ? By deactivate, I *don't* mean to set it to 0, because it could be set to 1 by customers. It should exist a srcds flag like -nohltv so that it would not listen at all. I hope it will be fixed, as nothing should be enabled instead it is said so. Thanks in advance, -- grosnours http://www.gameonline.net/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Leif mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv
No, I meant not giving the customer the rights to enable/disable such a service. It's like the maxplayers settings, it cannot be changed by the customer, and it must be like that. It's the same for HLTV cvars. cu, -- grosnours http://www.GameOnline.be Do you mean this? hltv_stop - stops HLTV broadcasting hltv_stoprecord - stops recording (even if hltv_autorecord is 1) If you mean UDP listening on (default) channel 27020, have you tried hltv_port 0? I did not tried yet, but it may work... cheers, The Fool Hi all, Is there any mean to deactivate the sv_hltv cvar ? By deactivate, I *don't* mean to set it to 0, because it could be set to 1 by customers. It should exist a srcds flag like -nohltv so that it would not listen at all. I hope it will be fixed, as nothing should be enabled instead it is said so. Thanks in advance, -- grosnours http://www.gameonline.net/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv
Hi, To start a lightweight HLTV server, slave proxy just start srcds but without loading a map, just add hltv_connect ip:port. These relay proxies doesn't load any resources like maps or models, so they are cheap resource wise. It seems nice, as it seems not possible to changelevel on such DS. SRC HLTV is naked right now. Once CS:S networking is stable (it already is quite stable), more and more features will be added. If people use sv_hltv 1 on their server to record demos, but don't want people to connect as spectators, they can set 'hltv_maxclients 0'. I will add a a new command hltv_relayonly to allow only other relay proxies to the master server and not spectators. Recording demos on the DS should not be allowed by default ! It's not the job of the DS to record demos. Same for broadcasting HLTV. A dedicated HLTV or simply players have to record if it is needed. That means companies will have to check such files or change their policies. So to have HLTV on SRC as it was in HL1, start the server with sv_hltv 1, hltv_maxclients 1 and then start another SRCDS without map, hltv_connect server:port and then this second SRCDS is the like the master proxy in HL1. But this can be modified by customer too, it can't be allowed. I dont think its perfect, but atleast its better than nothing. Thanks for all these informations ;) I hope they will work on that. cu, -- grosnours http://www.GameOnline.be Regards Per Lambæk www.HLTV.org Leif wrote: But then the Customers need a solution to use their own HLTV Server or free HLTV Server´s from blank-tv or hltv.org. At the moment it´s impossible to connect with an HLTV Server to an other Gamerserver, if the integrated HLTV on the Gamerserver is not running :/ Although those commands are useful, server companies need a way to disable hltv altogether so customers cant just activate it from rcon or a config file. hltv_port doesn't seem to work in the command line. Gavin Rodgers (BlueHawk^4u) 4u-servers.co.uk 4u-servers.net (forums) 4u-mobile.co.uk (ringtones logos ..) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Fool Sent: 09 January 2005 10:45 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv Do you mean this? hltv_stop - stops HLTV broadcasting hltv_stoprecord - stops recording (even if hltv_autorecord is 1) If you mean UDP listening on (default) channel 27020, have you tried hltv_port 0? I did not tried yet, but it may work... cheers, The Fool Hi all, Is there any mean to deactivate the sv_hltv cvar ? By deactivate, I *don't* mean to set it to 0, because it could be set to 1 by customers. It should exist a srcds flag like -nohltv so that it would not listen at all. I hope it will be fixed, as nothing should be enabled instead it is said so. Thanks in advance, -- grosnours http://www.gameonline.net/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Leif mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv
Yeah, but i can understand the problems. How should the Server Companies calculate, if the customers with an 10 Slot Gameserver can start a 255 Slot HLTV Server ?? The integrated HLTV was bad for all...the customers and the Gameserver Companies. A standalone HLTV Version which can directly connect on every Gameserver like in CS 1.6 would be the best solution for both sides. That's correct. I give up then, sry. This is a dead lock. Steam have to write some code ;) But then the Customers need a solution to use their own HLTV Server or free HLTV Server´s from blank-tv or hltv.org. At the moment it´s impossible to connect with an HLTV Server to an other Gamerserver, if the integrated HLTV on the Gamerserver is not running :/ Although those commands are useful, server companies need a way to disable hltv altogether so customers cant just activate it from rcon or a config file. hltv_port doesn't seem to work in the command line. Gavin Rodgers (BlueHawk^4u) 4u-servers.co.uk 4u-servers.net (forums) 4u-mobile.co.uk (ringtones logos ..) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Fool Sent: 09 January 2005 10:45 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv Do you mean this? hltv_stop - stops HLTV broadcasting hltv_stoprecord - stops recording (even if hltv_autorecord is 1) If you mean UDP listening on (default) channel 27020, have you tried hltv_port 0? I did not tried yet, but it may work... cheers, The Fool Hi all, Is there any mean to deactivate the sv_hltv cvar ? By deactivate, I *don't* mean to set it to 0, because it could be set to 1 by customers. It should exist a srcds flag like -nohltv so that it would not listen at all. I hope it will be fixed, as nothing should be enabled instead it is said so. Thanks in advance, grosnours http://www.gameonline.net/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Leif mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv
I see. But you can't yet manage it :/ No, I meant not giving the customer the rights to enable/disable such a service. It's like the maxplayers settings, it cannot be changed by the customer, and it must be like that. It's the same for HLTV cvars. cu, -- grosnours http://www.GameOnline.be Do you mean this? hltv_stop - stops HLTV broadcasting hltv_stoprecord - stops recording (even if hltv_autorecord is 1) If you mean UDP listening on (default) channel 27020, have you tried hltv_port 0? I did not tried yet, but it may work... cheers, The Fool Hi all, Is there any mean to deactivate the sv_hltv cvar ? By deactivate, I *don't* mean to set it to 0, because it could be set to 1 by customers. It should exist a srcds flag like -nohltv so that it would not listen at all. I hope it will be fixed, as nothing should be enabled instead it is said so. Thanks in advance, -- grosnours http://www.gameonline.net/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv
Hi all, Is there any mean to deactivate the sv_hltv cvar ? By deactivate, I *don't* mean to set it to 0, because it could be set to 1 by customers. It should exist a srcds flag like -nohltv so that it would not listen at all. I hope it will be fixed, as nothing should be enabled instead it is said so. Thanks in advance, -- grosnours http://www.gameonline.net/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv
I must agree there needs to be a way of disabling this feature from the command line so that it cannot be enabled via rcon. Steve / K - Original Message - From: Fabrice (grosnours) Toppi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, Is there any mean to deactivate the sv_hltv cvar ? By deactivate, I *don't* mean to set it to 0, because it could be set to 1 by customers. It should exist a srcds flag like -nohltv so that it would not listen at all. I hope it will be fixed, as nothing should be enabled instead it is said so. This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone (023) 8024 3137 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv
Best would be something similar to the read-only variables which can be founds in the DS of games such as CoD. Default of course would be 0 :) Philip On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 22:51 +, Steven Hartland wrote: I must agree there needs to be a way of disabling this feature from the command line so that it cannot be enabled via rcon. Steve / K - Original Message - ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv
And while they're in there they could create -nobots -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philip Lorenz Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 6:59 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv Best would be something similar to the read-only variables which can be founds in the DS of games such as CoD. Default of course would be 0 :) Philip On Sat, 2005-01-08 at 22:51 +, Steven Hartland wrote: I must agree there needs to be a way of disabling this feature from the command line so that it cannot be enabled via rcon. Steve / K - Original Message - ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] [srcds] deactivating sv_hltv
But then please release a standalone Version of HLTV, which can directly connect on Gamerservers like in CS 1.6. Cause at the moment the integrated HLTV can only connect to other HLTV Servers, but not to Gameservers. Hi all, Is there any mean to deactivate the sv_hltv cvar ? By deactivate, I *don't* mean to set it to 0, because it could be set to 1 by customers. It should exist a srcds flag like -nohltv so that it would not listen at all. I hope it will be fixed, as nothing should be enabled instead it is said so. Thanks in advance, -- grosnours http://www.gameonline.net/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Leif mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
