RE: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage
I am using Opteron64 DualCore for socket 939, with Debian64 kernel 2.6.19 @ 1000hz, also using the hlds_amd64, a full 10slots server with pingboost 2 enabled consumes about 1-4% CPU with a peak of 8% (mapchange etc). The server is running at 1000fps, but drops down to 500fps some times. When using the hlds_amd binary the CPU consumes about 30% more. Med vennlig hilsen: Andreas Kang Schøyen It konsulent NovaNett AS Adr: Grønland 14, 0188 Oslo E-post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tlf: 22170020 / Mob 9699 Faks: 22178218 Web: www.novanett.no -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Valtteri Kiviniemi Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 12:36 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage I'm running HLDS, with 1000HZ and AMD X2 processors. System is Debian 64Bit and I'm using the old hlds_amd64 binary (better performance, no need for VAC2). Kernel is own compiled. I've always had 500FPS since 2.6.14, but I'm having very big performance issues with never kernel's than 2.6.16. But like I've always said, don't fix if it ain't broken. Kennycom kirjoitti: > Valt besides the X2's,, which OS are you ruining ,32/64? > > Seems to be a lot more there then just saying the older kernels work > better.. personally I saw huge performance gain on an XP2800 on FC4 with the > newer kernels @ 1000hz over the pre. 2.6.18 > > For me CPU usage is down and am able to break the 333fps limit.. now seeing > up to 500+FPS.. As to the intended topic of this thread his FPS's seem a bit > low from the start > > > Back up what you are saying with what you think is better performance > > > - Original Message - > From: "Valtteri Kiviniemi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:46 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage > > > Ehmm... I have Opteron and Xeon processors too, and they don't perform > any way better than AMD X2 or Core 2 Duo... > > k-mystik kirjoitti: > >> Right, but X2s/P4s are just desktop CPUs, not meant for server usage. >> Try a Xeon/Opteron for a server, you'll see the difference ;-) >> >> -- >> k-mystik! -- get2play administrator >> web: www.get2play.com >> irc: #get2play >> >> >> >> Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: >> >>> Like I said, _with AMD X2 processors_. >>> >>> Einar S. Idsø kirjoitti: >>> >>>> Incorrect. We experienced a massive boost when going from 2.6.12 to >>>> 2.6.18. Both were running at 1000Hz. >>>> >>>> Please specify exactly which kernels perform better/worse than others >>>> and whether they were running at 1000Hz or not, instead of making >>>> incorrect generalized statements. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Einar >>>> >>>> Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Old kernel's perform better with HLDS than new ones. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ___ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage
Wall clock jitter is the cause of your fps fluctuations.. At 10:06 PM 1/27/2007, Whisper wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Sorry, I should have said I am refering to SRCDS It is the Debian Distro of 2.6.18 Even though the kernel Hertz timer is set to 1000, we are locked to a maximum of 333. This wouldn't be to bad, except that it fluctuates massively, even when the SRCDS processes on there are empty. With Windows on a Dual Core Opteron, I can get SRCDS to pretty much sit on 256fps almost constantly for each SRCDS process even with people in it. If this is the Linux SRCDS performance issue that many of you have been talking about then yeah I have to agree, it does suck a lot! Cheers On 1/28/07, Kennycom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ahh, after looking back over the posts I now see that you had mentioned > that > you are referring to HLDS where most of us are referring to SRCDS > usage. > > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Valtteri Kiviniemi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:36 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage > > > I'm running HLDS, with 1000HZ and AMD X2 processors. System is Debian > 64Bit and I'm using the old hlds_amd64 binary (better performance, no > need for VAC2). Kernel is own compiled. I've always had 500FPS since > 2.6.14, but I'm having very big performance issues with never kernel's > than 2.6.16. But like I've always said, don't fix if it ain't broken. > > Kennycom kirjoitti: > > Valt besides the X2's,, which OS are you ruining ,32/64? > > > > Seems to be a lot more there then just saying the older kernels work > > better.. personally I saw huge performance gain on an XP2800 on FC4 with > > the > > newer kernels @ 1000hz over the pre. 2.6.18 > > > > For me CPU usage is down and am able to break the 333fps limit.. now > > seeing > > up to 500+FPS.. As to the intended topic of this thread his FPS's seem a > > bit > > low from the start > > > > > > Back up what you are saying with what you think is better > performance > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Valtteri Kiviniemi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage > > > > > > Ehmm... I have Opteron and Xeon processors too, and they don't perform > > any way better than AMD X2 or Core 2 Duo... > > > > k-mystik kirjoitti: > > > >> Right, but X2s/P4s are just desktop CPUs, not meant for server usage. > >> Try a Xeon/Opteron for a server, you'll see the difference ;-) > >> > >> -- > >> k-mystik! -- get2play administrator > >> web: www.get2play.com > >> irc: #get2play > >> > >> > >> > >> Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: > >> > >>> Like I said, _with AMD X2 processors_. > >>> > >>> Einar S. Idsø kirjoitti: > >>> > >>>> Incorrect. We experienced a massive boost when going from 2.6.12 to > >>>> 2.6.18. Both were running at 1000Hz. > >>>> > >>>> Please specify exactly which kernels perform better/worse than others > >>>> and whether they were running at 1000Hz or not, instead of making > >>>> incorrect generalized statements. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Einar > >>>> > >>>> Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Old kernel's perform better with HLDS than new ones. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> ___ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>> archives, please visit: > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>> > >>>> > >>> ___ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >
Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Sorry, I should have said I am refering to SRCDS It is the Debian Distro of 2.6.18 Even though the kernel Hertz timer is set to 1000, we are locked to a maximum of 333. This wouldn't be to bad, except that it fluctuates massively, even when the SRCDS processes on there are empty. With Windows on a Dual Core Opteron, I can get SRCDS to pretty much sit on 256fps almost constantly for each SRCDS process even with people in it. If this is the Linux SRCDS performance issue that many of you have been talking about then yeah I have to agree, it does suck a lot! Cheers On 1/28/07, Kennycom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Ahh, after looking back over the posts I now see that you had mentioned > that > you are referring to HLDS where most of us are referring to SRCDS > usage. > > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Valtteri Kiviniemi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:36 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage > > > I'm running HLDS, with 1000HZ and AMD X2 processors. System is Debian > 64Bit and I'm using the old hlds_amd64 binary (better performance, no > need for VAC2). Kernel is own compiled. I've always had 500FPS since > 2.6.14, but I'm having very big performance issues with never kernel's > than 2.6.16. But like I've always said, don't fix if it ain't broken. > > Kennycom kirjoitti: > > Valt besides the X2's,, which OS are you ruining ,32/64? > > > > Seems to be a lot more there then just saying the older kernels work > > better.. personally I saw huge performance gain on an XP2800 on FC4 with > > the > > newer kernels @ 1000hz over the pre. 2.6.18 > > > > For me CPU usage is down and am able to break the 333fps limit.. now > > seeing > > up to 500+FPS.. As to the intended topic of this thread his FPS's seem a > > bit > > low from the start > > > > > > Back up what you are saying with what you think is better > performance > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Valtteri Kiviniemi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage > > > > > > Ehmm... I have Opteron and Xeon processors too, and they don't perform > > any way better than AMD X2 or Core 2 Duo... > > > > k-mystik kirjoitti: > > > >> Right, but X2s/P4s are just desktop CPUs, not meant for server usage. > >> Try a Xeon/Opteron for a server, you'll see the difference ;-) > >> > >> -- > >> k-mystik! -- get2play administrator > >> web: www.get2play.com > >> irc: #get2play > >> > >> > >> > >> Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: > >> > >>> Like I said, _with AMD X2 processors_. > >>> > >>> Einar S. Idsø kirjoitti: > >>> > >>>> Incorrect. We experienced a massive boost when going from 2.6.12 to > >>>> 2.6.18. Both were running at 1000Hz. > >>>> > >>>> Please specify exactly which kernels perform better/worse than others > >>>> and whether they were running at 1000Hz or not, instead of making > >>>> incorrect generalized statements. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Einar > >>>> > >>>> Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Old kernel's perform better with HLDS than new ones. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> ___ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>> archives, please visit: > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>> > >>>> > >>> ___ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage
Ahh, after looking back over the posts I now see that you had mentioned that you are referring to HLDS where most of us are referring to SRCDS usage. - Original Message - From: "Valtteri Kiviniemi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage I'm running HLDS, with 1000HZ and AMD X2 processors. System is Debian 64Bit and I'm using the old hlds_amd64 binary (better performance, no need for VAC2). Kernel is own compiled. I've always had 500FPS since 2.6.14, but I'm having very big performance issues with never kernel's than 2.6.16. But like I've always said, don't fix if it ain't broken. Kennycom kirjoitti: > Valt besides the X2's,, which OS are you ruining ,32/64? > > Seems to be a lot more there then just saying the older kernels work > better.. personally I saw huge performance gain on an XP2800 on FC4 with > the > newer kernels @ 1000hz over the pre. 2.6.18 > > For me CPU usage is down and am able to break the 333fps limit.. now > seeing > up to 500+FPS.. As to the intended topic of this thread his FPS's seem a > bit > low from the start > > > Back up what you are saying with what you think is better performance > > > - Original Message - > From: "Valtteri Kiviniemi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:46 PM > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage > > > Ehmm... I have Opteron and Xeon processors too, and they don't perform > any way better than AMD X2 or Core 2 Duo... > > k-mystik kirjoitti: > >> Right, but X2s/P4s are just desktop CPUs, not meant for server usage. >> Try a Xeon/Opteron for a server, you'll see the difference ;-) >> >> -- >> k-mystik! -- get2play administrator >> web: www.get2play.com >> irc: #get2play >> >> >> >> Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: >> >>> Like I said, _with AMD X2 processors_. >>> >>> Einar S. Idsø kirjoitti: >>> >>>> Incorrect. We experienced a massive boost when going from 2.6.12 to >>>> 2.6.18. Both were running at 1000Hz. >>>> >>>> Please specify exactly which kernels perform better/worse than others >>>> and whether they were running at 1000Hz or not, instead of making >>>> incorrect generalized statements. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Einar >>>> >>>> Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Old kernel's perform better with HLDS than new ones. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ___ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage
I'm running HLDS, with 1000HZ and AMD X2 processors. System is Debian 64Bit and I'm using the old hlds_amd64 binary (better performance, no need for VAC2). Kernel is own compiled. I've always had 500FPS since 2.6.14, but I'm having very big performance issues with never kernel's than 2.6.16. But like I've always said, don't fix if it ain't broken. Kennycom kirjoitti: Valt besides the X2's,, which OS are you ruining ,32/64? Seems to be a lot more there then just saying the older kernels work better.. personally I saw huge performance gain on an XP2800 on FC4 with the newer kernels @ 1000hz over the pre. 2.6.18 For me CPU usage is down and am able to break the 333fps limit.. now seeing up to 500+FPS.. As to the intended topic of this thread his FPS's seem a bit low from the start Back up what you are saying with what you think is better performance - Original Message - From: "Valtteri Kiviniemi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage Ehmm... I have Opteron and Xeon processors too, and they don't perform any way better than AMD X2 or Core 2 Duo... k-mystik kirjoitti: Right, but X2s/P4s are just desktop CPUs, not meant for server usage. Try a Xeon/Opteron for a server, you'll see the difference ;-) -- k-mystik! -- get2play administrator web: www.get2play.com irc: #get2play Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: Like I said, _with AMD X2 processors_. Einar S. Idsø kirjoitti: Incorrect. We experienced a massive boost when going from 2.6.12 to 2.6.18. Both were running at 1000Hz. Please specify exactly which kernels perform better/worse than others and whether they were running at 1000Hz or not, instead of making incorrect generalized statements. Cheers, Einar Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: Old kernel's perform better with HLDS than new ones. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage
Valt besides the X2's,, which OS are you ruining ,32/64? Seems to be a lot more there then just saying the older kernels work better.. personally I saw huge performance gain on an XP2800 on FC4 with the newer kernels @ 1000hz over the pre. 2.6.18 For me CPU usage is down and am able to break the 333fps limit.. now seeing up to 500+FPS.. As to the intended topic of this thread his FPS's seem a bit low from the start Back up what you are saying with what you think is better performance - Original Message - From: "Valtteri Kiviniemi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage Ehmm... I have Opteron and Xeon processors too, and they don't perform any way better than AMD X2 or Core 2 Duo... k-mystik kirjoitti: > Right, but X2s/P4s are just desktop CPUs, not meant for server usage. > Try a Xeon/Opteron for a server, you'll see the difference ;-) > > -- > k-mystik! -- get2play administrator > web: www.get2play.com > irc: #get2play > > > > Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: >> Like I said, _with AMD X2 processors_. >> >> Einar S. Idsø kirjoitti: >>> Incorrect. We experienced a massive boost when going from 2.6.12 to >>> 2.6.18. Both were running at 1000Hz. >>> >>> Please specify exactly which kernels perform better/worse than others >>> and whether they were running at 1000Hz or not, instead of making >>> incorrect generalized statements. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Einar >>> >>> Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: >>> >>>> Old kernel's perform better with HLDS than new ones. >>>> >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage
Hi Whisper, Is this specifically for HLDS or SRCDS or both? I have noticed it too, but more for HLDS. On both custom kernel compiles of 2.6.19 and using 'decent' hardware. It's quite strange. Albert may be able to answer this, how is the stats value calculated? Between two fixed points in time? Dynamically ? Cheers, Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Valtteri Kiviniemi Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2007 9:46 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage Ehmm... I have Opteron and Xeon processors too, and they don't perform any way better than AMD X2 or Core 2 Duo... k-mystik kirjoitti: > Right, but X2s/P4s are just desktop CPUs, not meant for server usage. > Try a Xeon/Opteron for a server, you'll see the difference ;-) > > -- > k-mystik! -- get2play administrator > web: www.get2play.com > irc: #get2play > > > > Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: >> Like I said, _with AMD X2 processors_. >> >> Einar S. Idsø kirjoitti: >>> Incorrect. We experienced a massive boost when going from 2.6.12 to >>> 2.6.18. Both were running at 1000Hz. >>> >>> Please specify exactly which kernels perform better/worse than others >>> and whether they were running at 1000Hz or not, instead of making >>> incorrect generalized statements. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Einar >>> >>> Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: >>> >>>> Old kernel's perform better with HLDS than new ones. >>>> >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>> archives, please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage
Ehmm... I have Opteron and Xeon processors too, and they don't perform any way better than AMD X2 or Core 2 Duo... k-mystik kirjoitti: Right, but X2s/P4s are just desktop CPUs, not meant for server usage. Try a Xeon/Opteron for a server, you'll see the difference ;-) -- k-mystik! -- get2play administrator web: www.get2play.com irc: #get2play Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: Like I said, _with AMD X2 processors_. Einar S. Idsø kirjoitti: Incorrect. We experienced a massive boost when going from 2.6.12 to 2.6.18. Both were running at 1000Hz. Please specify exactly which kernels perform better/worse than others and whether they were running at 1000Hz or not, instead of making incorrect generalized statements. Cheers, Einar Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: Old kernel's perform better with HLDS than new ones. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage
Right, but X2s/P4s are just desktop CPUs, not meant for server usage. Try a Xeon/Opteron for a server, you'll see the difference ;-) -- k-mystik! -- get2play administrator web: www.get2play.com irc: #get2play Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: Like I said, _with AMD X2 processors_. Einar S. Idsø kirjoitti: Incorrect. We experienced a massive boost when going from 2.6.12 to 2.6.18. Both were running at 1000Hz. Please specify exactly which kernels perform better/worse than others and whether they were running at 1000Hz or not, instead of making incorrect generalized statements. Cheers, Einar Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: Old kernel's perform better with HLDS than new ones. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage
Opteron 275 here, which is an AMD X2... Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: > Like I said, _with AMD X2 processors_. > > Einar S. Idsø kirjoitti: >> Incorrect. We experienced a massive boost when going from 2.6.12 to >> 2.6.18. Both were running at 1000Hz. >> >> Please specify exactly which kernels perform better/worse than others >> and whether they were running at 1000Hz or not, instead of making >> incorrect generalized statements. >> >> Cheers, >> Einar >> >> Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: >> >>> Old kernel's perform better with HLDS than new ones. >>> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage
Like I said, _with AMD X2 processors_. Einar S. Idsø kirjoitti: Incorrect. We experienced a massive boost when going from 2.6.12 to 2.6.18. Both were running at 1000Hz. Please specify exactly which kernels perform better/worse than others and whether they were running at 1000Hz or not, instead of making incorrect generalized statements. Cheers, Einar Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: Old kernel's perform better with HLDS than new ones. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage
Incorrect. We experienced a massive boost when going from 2.6.12 to 2.6.18. Both were running at 1000Hz. Please specify exactly which kernels perform better/worse than others and whether they were running at 1000Hz or not, instead of making incorrect generalized statements. Cheers, Einar Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: > Old kernel's perform better with HLDS than new ones. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage
Old kernel's perform better with HLDS than new ones.
William Warren kirjoitti:
the reason is the kernel devs changed the hz from 1000 to 250.
Recompile your kernel with a higher hz. I would recommend using the
latest kernel since older kernels have security issues or use a distro
like Centos that uses the 2.6.9 kernel with all security updates
backported but still uses 1000 hz in the kernel..
Hi,
If you have X2 processors try the 2.6.16 kernel. I have about 70% of my
servers running with AMD X2 processors and 2.6.16 kernel. Kernel's above
2.6.16 don't perform so good, don't really know why... I have the same
settings, but the FPS is not even nearly as stable with example 2.6.19
compared to 2.6.16...
One possible reason would be the "Multi-core scheduler support" which is
added to the mainline kernel after 2.6.16 or 2.6.17. Try to disable that
feature in the "processors types and features" and test it. I would like
to know if that changed anything.
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Hans Vos kirjoitti:
DEPRE Gaetan wrote:
Big problems with 2.6.18. I noticed that servers running on it didn't
consume much CPU ('bout 2-3% for a 20 players source on dual xeon
2.8).
Changed to 2.6.19, everything now runs good.
What has changed in 2.6.19 compared to 2.6.18? Could you elaborate this
more?
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Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage
the reason is the kernel devs changed the hz from 1000 to 250.
Recompile your kernel with a higher hz. I would recommend using the
latest kernel since older kernels have security issues or use a distro
like Centos that uses the 2.6.9 kernel with all security updates
backported but still uses 1000 hz in the kernel..
Hi,
If you have X2 processors try the 2.6.16 kernel. I have about 70% of my
servers running with AMD X2 processors and 2.6.16 kernel. Kernel's above
2.6.16 don't perform so good, don't really know why... I have the same
settings, but the FPS is not even nearly as stable with example 2.6.19
compared to 2.6.16...
One possible reason would be the "Multi-core scheduler support" which is
added to the mainline kernel after 2.6.16 or 2.6.17. Try to disable that
feature in the "processors types and features" and test it. I would like
to know if that changed anything.
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Hans Vos kirjoitti:
DEPRE Gaetan wrote:
Big problems with 2.6.18. I noticed that servers running on it didn't
consume much CPU ('bout 2-3% for a 20 players source on dual xeon 2.8).
Changed to 2.6.19, everything now runs good.
What has changed in 2.6.19 compared to 2.6.18? Could you elaborate this
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Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage
Hi,
If you have X2 processors try the 2.6.16 kernel. I have about 70% of my
servers running with AMD X2 processors and 2.6.16 kernel. Kernel's above
2.6.16 don't perform so good, don't really know why... I have the same
settings, but the FPS is not even nearly as stable with example 2.6.19
compared to 2.6.16...
One possible reason would be the "Multi-core scheduler support" which is
added to the mainline kernel after 2.6.16 or 2.6.17. Try to disable that
feature in the "processors types and features" and test it. I would like
to know if that changed anything.
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Hans Vos kirjoitti:
DEPRE Gaetan wrote:
Big problems with 2.6.18. I noticed that servers running on it didn't
consume much CPU ('bout 2-3% for a 20 players source on dual xeon 2.8).
Changed to 2.6.19, everything now runs good.
What has changed in 2.6.19 compared to 2.6.18? Could you elaborate this
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Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage
DEPRE Gaetan wrote:
Big problems with 2.6.18. I noticed that servers running on it didn't
consume much CPU ('bout 2-3% for a 20 players source on dual xeon 2.8).
Changed to 2.6.19, everything now runs good.
What has changed in 2.6.19 compared to 2.6.18? Could you elaborate this
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CPU is an AMD X2 4400
On 1/27/07, DEPRE Gaetan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Big problems with 2.6.18. I noticed that servers running on it didn't
> consume much CPU ('bout 2-3% for a 20 players source on dual xeon 2.8).
> Changed to 2.6.19, everything now runs good.
>
> -Message d'origine-
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> Hi guys
>
> I'm working on a Linux server for some friends and I have a question or
> two.
>
> 1. Why does the server fps on a "stats" command fluctuate massively on an
> empty server when the same server showing CPU usage not changing?
>
> 2. How do you stablise the server fps on a Linux box so the server fps
> doesn't see highs of 256 and lows of 48 1 after the other? That is to say,
> how do you get the server fps to sit nicely at say 200fps constant, at
> least
> under zero load, except for constant rcon stats spam?
>
> Using Kernel 2.6.18 (I believe) and the Kernel Hz timer is set to 1000.
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
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Big problems with 2.6.18. I noticed that servers running on it didn't
consume much CPU ('bout 2-3% for a 20 players source on dual xeon 2.8).
Changed to 2.6.19, everything now runs good.
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Hi guys
I'm working on a Linux server for some friends and I have a question or two.
1. Why does the server fps on a "stats" command fluctuate massively on an
empty server when the same server showing CPU usage not changing?
2. How do you stablise the server fps on a Linux box so the server fps
doesn't see highs of 256 and lows of 48 1 after the other? That is to say,
how do you get the server fps to sit nicely at say 200fps constant, at least
under zero load, except for constant rcon stats spam?
Using Kernel 2.6.18 (I believe) and the Kernel Hz timer is set to 1000.
Thanks in Advance
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Re: [hlds_linux] Fluctuating Server FPS, but low CPU usage
What is the hardware you have? What command line do you execute to start your server? -- k-mystik! -- get2play administrator web: www.get2play.com irc: #get2play Whisper wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi guys I'm working on a Linux server for some friends and I have a question or two. 1. Why does the server fps on a "stats" command fluctuate massively on an empty server when the same server showing CPU usage not changing? 2. How do you stablise the server fps on a Linux box so the server fps doesn't see highs of 256 and lows of 48 1 after the other? That is to say, how do you get the server fps to sit nicely at say 200fps constant, at least under zero load, except for constant rcon stats spam? Using Kernel 2.6.18 (I believe) and the Kernel Hz timer is set to 1000. Thanks in Advance Whisper -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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What is the hardware you have? What command line do you execute to start your server? -- k-mystik! -- get2play administrator web: www.get2play.com irc: #get2play Whisper wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi guys I'm working on a Linux server for some friends and I have a question or two. 1. Why does the server fps on a "stats" command fluctuate massively on an empty server when the same server showing CPU usage not changing? 2. How do you stablise the server fps on a Linux box so the server fps doesn't see highs of 256 and lows of 48 1 after the other? That is to say, how do you get the server fps to sit nicely at say 200fps constant, at least under zero load, except for constant rcon stats spam? Using Kernel 2.6.18 (I believe) and the Kernel Hz timer is set to 1000. Thanks in Advance Whisper -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi guys I'm working on a Linux server for some friends and I have a question or two. 1. Why does the server fps on a "stats" command fluctuate massively on an empty server when the same server showing CPU usage not changing? 2. How do you stablise the server fps on a Linux box so the server fps doesn't see highs of 256 and lows of 48 1 after the other? That is to say, how do you get the server fps to sit nicely at say 200fps constant, at least under zero load, except for constant rcon stats spam? Using Kernel 2.6.18 (I believe) and the Kernel Hz timer is set to 1000. Thanks in Advance Whisper -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
