Re: [hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D

2009-10-08 Thread David A. Parker
It's actually mm_dedicated_force_servers.

James Creedy wrote:
 That'll teach me for late-night posting! I really wanted to know if there
 was a way to do this without going into the console.. So that group members
 could see my servers in-game, then click to create a lobby. I didn't know
 about mm_force_servers_dedicated though!
 
 Thanks for your answers!
 
 James
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Pyroguy
 Sent: 08 October 2009 02:04
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D
 
 You can also use the console command 'mm_force_servers_dedicated 
 ip,ip,ip' as a lobby host to force the dedicated search to query only 
 the designated IPs.
 
 Chris Russell wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:00 PM, James Creedy ja...@tigerjay.net wrote:
   
 Is there any way of using lobby with a private server?
 
 sv_search_key
 sv_search_key = 
  - When searching for a dedicated server from lobby, restrict search
 to only dedicated servers having the same sv_search_key.

 You have to set it on both the client and the server.  You would
 probably have found this info with a little searching.

 -Chris

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Re: [hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D

2009-10-08 Thread Oliver Salzburg
James Creedy wrote:
 That'll teach me for late-night posting! I really wanted to know if there
 was a way to do this without going into the console.. So that group members
 could see my servers in-game, then click to create a lobby. I didn't know
 about mm_force_servers_dedicated though!

 Thanks for your answers!

 James
   
I only use search key. I simply set it in my server configs and add it to
the command line parameters of L4D in Steam.
So when I start L4D and create a lobby it will automatically create the
game on one of my server.
I can join ongoing games over the Stream group servers list ingame.
I find that solution to be the most comfortable.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D

2009-10-07 Thread Mikael Pedersen
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:43:33 -0500, you wrote:

I always thought that the friends only option was for the lobby only. Every
time I have used it random people join throughout the match.

Odd to see so many having this experience.
On my servers this friends only option does work in-game through the
entire campaign. Quite nice if you are 3 people who doesn't want a
random fourth player.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D

2009-10-07 Thread David A. Parker
It's probably more rare that just one person will be looking for a game 
to join, as opposed to a group of people in a lobby.  Even so, I bet the 
matchmaking system will put that person on an empty server if one is 
available.  You would need to have one person looking for a game and 
have no decent servers empty in order to have another player added to a 
game that only has one open slot.

Just a guess, though.

Mikael Pedersen wrote:
 On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 16:43:33 -0500, you wrote:
 
 I always thought that the friends only option was for the lobby only. Every
 time I have used it random people join throughout the match.
 
 Odd to see so many having this experience.
 On my servers this friends only option does work in-game through the
 entire campaign. Quite nice if you are 3 people who doesn't want a
 random fourth player.
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D

2009-10-07 Thread Chris Russell
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:46 PM, David Parker dpar...@utica.edu wrote:
 If you're an insular hermit of a gamer, like me, who generally dislikes 
 random pubbers and only wants to play with friends on a truly private server, 
 you pretty much have to use a LAN if you're playing L4D.  It sucks.

Create steamgroup.  Get all friends in steamgroup.
Set up server.

sv_steamgroup steamgroup id
sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1

No LAN needed.

-Chris

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Re: [hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D

2009-10-07 Thread Pyroguy
You can also use the console command 'mm_force_servers_dedicated 
ip,ip,ip' as a lobby host to force the dedicated search to query only 
the designated IPs.

Chris Russell wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:00 PM, James Creedy ja...@tigerjay.net wrote:
   
 Is there any way of using lobby with a private server?
 

 sv_search_key
 sv_search_key = 
  - When searching for a dedicated server from lobby, restrict search
 to only dedicated servers having the same sv_search_key.

 You have to set it on both the client and the server.  You would
 probably have found this info with a little searching.

 -Chris

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[hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D

2009-10-06 Thread David A. Parker
Hello,

A few days ago, I created a friends-only versus game on one of our L4D 
servers (I used mm_dedicated_force_servers to force my lobby to search 
our servers).  I was playing with two of my friends.  We played for 
about 15 minutes, and then a bunch of public players suddenly starting 
joining.  The other 5 player slots were all filled in about 15 seconds. 
  I thought perhaps I had messed up a setting, so when the game ended we 
left and I created a new lobby, made damn sure it was friends-only, 
started the game, and the exact same thing happened.  We were alone for 
a while, and then there was a sudden and fast influx of public players, 
right in the middle of the game.

So, does friends-only not mean what I think it means (that only 
friends can join your game)?  Or could it be that our reservation ticket 
expired for some reason?  Has anyone else had this happen?

Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.

 Thanks,
 Dave

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Re: [hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D

2009-10-06 Thread John
David A. Parker wrote:
 Hello,

 A few days ago, I created a friends-only versus game on one of our L4D 
 servers (I used mm_dedicated_force_servers to force my lobby to search 
 our servers).  I was playing with two of my friends.  We played for 
 about 15 minutes, and then a bunch of public players suddenly starting 
 joining.  The other 5 player slots were all filled in about 15 seconds. 
   I thought perhaps I had messed up a setting, so when the game ended we 
 left and I created a new lobby, made damn sure it was friends-only, 
 started the game, and the exact same thing happened.  We were alone for 
 a while, and then there was a sudden and fast influx of public players, 
 right in the middle of the game.

 So, does friends-only not mean what I think it means (that only 
 friends can join your game)?  Or could it be that our reservation ticket 
 expired for some reason?  Has anyone else had this happen?

 Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.

  Thanks,
  Dave

   
Only the lobby is friends only.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D

2009-10-06 Thread gulfy32
I always thought that the friends only option was for the lobby only. Every
time I have used it random people join throughout the match.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:25 PM, David A. Parker dpar...@utica.edu wrote:

 Hello,

 A few days ago, I created a friends-only versus game on one of our L4D
 servers (I used mm_dedicated_force_servers to force my lobby to search
 our servers).  I was playing with two of my friends.  We played for
 about 15 minutes, and then a bunch of public players suddenly starting
 joining.  The other 5 player slots were all filled in about 15 seconds.
  I thought perhaps I had messed up a setting, so when the game ended we
 left and I created a new lobby, made damn sure it was friends-only,
 started the game, and the exact same thing happened.  We were alone for
 a while, and then there was a sudden and fast influx of public players,
 right in the middle of the game.

 So, does friends-only not mean what I think it means (that only
 friends can join your game)?  Or could it be that our reservation ticket
 expired for some reason?  Has anyone else had this happen?

 Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.

 Thanks,
 Dave

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Re: [hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D

2009-10-06 Thread Dave Williams
Use the good old fashioned way - coined in gold source games - and just
password protect it? Or did valve use their god like wisdom and remove
that functionality for L4D?

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Brent
Veal
Sent: 06 October 2009 22:56
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D

Make sure all the slots are filled with friends and that no one leaves.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:48 PM, David A. Parker dpar...@utica.edu
wrote:

 That could be.  I assumed the option was for a friends-only game, not
 just the lobby, but I could be mistaken.  So is there no good way to
 only play with friends, short of creating a Steam group and putting up
 an exclusive server for it?

 Thanks,
 Dave

 gulfy32 wrote:
  I always thought that the friends only option was for the lobby
only.
 Every
  time I have used it random people join throughout the match.
 
  On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:25 PM, David A. Parker dpar...@utica.edu
 wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  A few days ago, I created a friends-only versus game on one of our
L4D
  servers (I used mm_dedicated_force_servers to force my lobby to
search
  our servers).  I was playing with two of my friends.  We played for
  about 15 minutes, and then a bunch of public players suddenly
starting
  joining.  The other 5 player slots were all filled in about 15
seconds.
   I thought perhaps I had messed up a setting, so when the game
ended we
  left and I created a new lobby, made damn sure it was friends-only,
  started the game, and the exact same thing happened.  We were alone
for
  a while, and then there was a sudden and fast influx of public
players,
  right in the middle of the game.
 
  So, does friends-only not mean what I think it means (that only
  friends can join your game)?  Or could it be that our reservation
ticket
  expired for some reason?  Has anyone else had this happen?
 
  Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.
 
  Thanks,
  Dave
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D

2009-10-06 Thread David Parker
Right.  One of my biggest disappointments when they released the L4D dedicated 
server was that you could not join a password-protected game from a lobby.  If 
you connect directly to the server, the password works but you can't use lobby 
features like voting and changing the game mode.

If you're an insular hermit of a gamer, like me, who generally dislikes random 
pubbers and only wants to play with friends on a truly private server, you 
pretty much have to use a LAN if you're playing L4D.  It sucks.

I guess the rest of the world is less grumpy and selfish than I am.  :-)

    Thanks,
    Dave

- Original Message -
From: Ryan Katkov ryan.kat...@gmail.com
Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 6:27 pm
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com

 Password protecting a server does nothing to make a server
 Friends-Only after a game has started. It will only prevent public
 lobbies from finding it. If you force the lobby to search for 
 that IP
 it will bypass the password anyway.
 
 On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Dave Williams
 m...@noquestionsasked.co.uk wrote:
  Use the good old fashioned way - coined in gold source games - 
 and just
  password protect it? Or did valve use their god like wisdom 
 and remove
  that functionality for L4D?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
  [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf 
 Of Brent
  Veal
  Sent: 06 October 2009 22:56
  To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
  Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D
 
  Make sure all the slots are filled with friends and that no 
 one leaves.
 
  On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:48 PM, David A. Parker 
 dpar...@utica.edu wrote:
 
  That could be.  I assumed the option was for a friends-only 
 game, not
  just the lobby, but I could be mistaken.  So is there no good 
 way to
  only play with friends, short of creating a Steam group and 
 putting up
  an exclusive server for it?
 
      Thanks,
      Dave
 
  gulfy32 wrote:
   I always thought that the friends only option was for the lobby
  only.
  Every
   time I have used it random people join throughout the match.
  
   On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:25 PM, David A. Parker 
 dpar...@utica.edu wrote:
  
   Hello,
  
   A few days ago, I created a friends-only versus game on 
 one of our
  L4D
   servers (I used mm_dedicated_force_servers to force my 
 lobby to
  search
   our servers).  I was playing with two of my friends.  We 
 played for
   about 15 minutes, and then a bunch of public players suddenly
  starting
   joining.  The other 5 player slots were all filled in 
 about 15
  seconds.
    I thought perhaps I had messed up a setting, so when the game
  ended we
   left and I created a new lobby, made damn sure it was 
 friends-only,
   started the game, and the exact same thing happened.  We 
 were alone
  for
   a while, and then there was a sudden and fast influx of public
  players,
   right in the middle of the game.
  
   So, does friends-only not mean what I think it means 
 (that only
   friends can join your game)?  Or could it be that our 
 reservation ticket
   expired for some reason?  Has anyone else had this happen?
  
   Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.
  
       Thanks,
       Dave
  
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Re: [hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D

2009-10-06 Thread Richard GrosJean
I really hope valve solves this issue with L4D2.

Wait, what did I just say?

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:46 AM, David Parker dpar...@utica.edu wrote:

 Right.  One of my biggest disappointments when they released the L4D
 dedicated server was that you could not join a password-protected game from
 a lobby.  If you connect directly to the server, the password works but you
 can't use lobby features like voting and changing the game mode.

 If you're an insular hermit of a gamer, like me, who generally dislikes
 random pubbers and only wants to play with friends on a truly private
 server, you pretty much have to use a LAN if you're playing L4D.  It sucks.

 I guess the rest of the world is less grumpy and selfish than I am.  :-)

 Thanks,
 Dave

 - Original Message -
 From: Ryan Katkov ryan.kat...@gmail.com
 Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009 6:27 pm
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
 hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com

  Password protecting a server does nothing to make a server
  Friends-Only after a game has started. It will only prevent public
  lobbies from finding it. If you force the lobby to search for
  that IP
  it will bypass the password anyway.
 
  On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Dave Williams
  m...@noquestionsasked.co.uk wrote:
   Use the good old fashioned way - coined in gold source games -
  and just
   password protect it? Or did valve use their god like wisdom
  and remove
   that functionality for L4D?
  
   -Original Message-
   From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
   [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf
  Of Brent
   Veal
   Sent: 06 October 2009 22:56
   To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
   Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Friends-only option in L4D
  
   Make sure all the slots are filled with friends and that no
  one leaves.
  
   On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:48 PM, David A. Parker
  dpar...@utica.edu wrote:
  
   That could be.  I assumed the option was for a friends-only
  game, not
   just the lobby, but I could be mistaken.  So is there no good
  way to
   only play with friends, short of creating a Steam group and
  putting up
   an exclusive server for it?
  
   Thanks,
   Dave
  
   gulfy32 wrote:
I always thought that the friends only option was for the lobby
   only.
   Every
time I have used it random people join throughout the match.
   
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:25 PM, David A. Parker
  dpar...@utica.edu wrote:
   
Hello,
   
A few days ago, I created a friends-only versus game on
  one of our
   L4D
servers (I used mm_dedicated_force_servers to force my
  lobby to
   search
our servers).  I was playing with two of my friends.  We
  played for
about 15 minutes, and then a bunch of public players suddenly
   starting
joining.  The other 5 player slots were all filled in
  about 15
   seconds.
 I thought perhaps I had messed up a setting, so when the game
   ended we
left and I created a new lobby, made damn sure it was
  friends-only,
started the game, and the exact same thing happened.  We
  were alone
   for
a while, and then there was a sudden and fast influx of public
   players,
right in the middle of the game.
   
So, does friends-only not mean what I think it means
  (that only
friends can join your game)?  Or could it be that our
  reservation ticket
expired for some reason?  Has anyone else had this happen?
   
Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.
   
Thanks,
Dave
   
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