Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS Console *SIMPLE* Feature Request

2003-08-14 Thread Eric (Deacon)
Daniel Stroven wrote:
As far as rcon being required in rental situationswhat I find is the
only reason customers "require" rcon is because of HLSW or similiar programs
that give remote control thru a 3rd party program via rcon password.  AM/AMX
do not give you the ability to do remote commands, while halfd does, but
without using rcon.
Then you have unique customers.  As a would-be customer, I would demand
FTP/SFTP access to the hlds directory, including all files inside (which
includes server.cfg).  You cannot hide rcon from me that way, nor is it
prudent to try.  In pub servers, if you don't want rcon, don't use it.
In private servers, people are *going* to have the rcon password...
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Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS Console *SIMPLE* Feature Request

2003-08-14 Thread Florian Zschocke
EnemySpy wrote:

a) I agree that having an interface to the server where you have a
dedicated input line which doesn't get overwritten by the server
output is very desireable. I've been wishing for this for quite
some time now.
I redirect my console to a pipe, which is read from (and processed) by a perl script and then sent to a logfile.  Having extra control chars to repositon the cursor and rewrite the input line for each new log line would would ruin this very efficient method of adding extra features to HL servers.
b) I also agree with this view. There are other very useful tools
like halfd which might break, too. So care must be taken not to
break this possible use.
I would say that such an interface does not necessarily have to be
an integral part of the dedicated server process/program itself.
Instead the usual Unix model of 'one task, one tool' could be applied.
Thus, my suggestion would be to have the hlds_xxx binaries use
simple, regular, unfiltered input/output as before. The now
obsoleted hlds binary could be used to implement a frontend
calling the respective hlds_xxx binary. This hlds frontend could
then provide such an input line, command history and even more
features. It would be extensible over time without having to fear
to break anything in the server proper. Other coders could even
decide to replace it with an improved version (as was the original
intension for the old hlds, too AFAIK). Tools could use the
hlds_xxx files directly. The overhead of the extra process would
be minimal since it doesn't do anything but wait for input from
either side most of the time.
My $0.02,
Florian.
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Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS Console *SIMPLE* Feature Request

2003-08-14 Thread EnemySpy

> A VERY simple yet VERY useful addition to the HLDS console would be GREATLY 
> appreciated: if the > console window took up all of the lines on the screen except 
> the last one where the admin would enter
> commands. It is difficult to change a cvar from the server console when there is 
> constant action within the

I redirect my console to a pipe, which is read from (and processed) by a perl script 
and then sent to a logfile.  Having extra control chars to repositon the cursor and 
rewrite the input line for each new log line would would ruin this very efficient 
method of adding extra features to HL servers (one of benefits of this method is the 
creation of true multitasking within HL).

Matt.
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RE: [hlds_linux] HLDS Console *SIMPLE* Feature Request

2003-08-14 Thread Adam 'Starblazer' Romberg
Fifth!

-a-



Adam 'Starblazer' Romberg Appleton: 920-738-9032
System Administrator
ExtremePC LLC-=-  http://www.extremepcgaming.net

On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, Matt Gossage wrote:

> I fourth it :-)

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RE: [hlds_linux] HLDS Console *SIMPLE* Feature Request

2003-08-14 Thread Matt Gossage
I fourth it :-)


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According to the great words of Tony Di Schino:
> I third it, or whatever. Doesn't that make it a law?

No, but now there is enough support to call an official vote to see what
the people think... ;-)

-Mad

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Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS Console *SIMPLE* Feature Request

2003-08-11 Thread Emanuel Harangus
Sixth!!

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> Fifth!
>
> -a-
>
>
> 
> Adam 'Starblazer' Romberg Appleton: 920-738-9032
> System Administrator
> ExtremePC LLC-=-  http://www.extremepcgaming.net
>
> On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, Matt Gossage wrote:
>
> > I fourth it :-)
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS Console *SIMPLE* Feature Request

2003-08-11 Thread Mikkel \"Miklos\" Georgsen
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I hate to say it (no i dont) but I want NO new features. I don't even want
any more bug fixes (unless for exploit). ALL I want is code optimization so
hlds will use less CPU. I say down with anything else.
You hit the spot there Jeremy - no new features, only code optimazation
(less CPU).
The console thing has to be the least useful feature I've heard about -
install HLSW and use that.
- Miklos
Clanhost.dk
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RE: [hlds_linux] HLDS Console *SIMPLE* Feature Request

2003-08-11 Thread Tim Mekrakarn
AMEN to that!

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I hate to say it (no i dont) but I want NO new features. I don't even
want
any more bug fixes (unless for exploit). ALL I want is code optimization
so
hlds will use less CPU. I say down with anything else.

Jeremy


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Re: [hlds_linux] HLDS Console *SIMPLE* Feature Request

2003-08-11 Thread Eric (Deacon)
Emanuel Harangus wrote:
Sixth!!
And 7th, and 8th, and on, and on...  I think we get the picture: people
want an actual input line that isn't interrupted by scrolling console
output.
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