Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
All, The MOTD thing was a pain in the beginning, before I found motdfile and hostfile and now all is well. But the main thing that gets is the autoupdate mechanism JUST DOESN'T WORK. The server sits there saying it'll quit for update at the next map change, except nobody can connect to it to change the map when it's out of date. So it never updates. Valve - can we get that sorted at least? Cheers, Chris On 31/07/2010 03:50, Ben Mendis wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:14 PM, tom nikitopoulosscrewtop...@gmail.comwrote: Guys like me who sell produce for a living. Speaking as a four-year veteran of Trader Joe's, that's really no excuse at all. Admit it, replacing of the motd file every update makes no doggone sense. Which is why you use 'motdfile custom_motd.txt' in your server.cfg instead of fighting with the updater. It all just boils down to learning how to properly use the tools at your disposal. Don't blame the Valve developers for your own incompetence. There is already plenty of things we can legitimately blame on them. On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Ben Mendisdragonwis...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of system administrators don't know how to set-up a cron job? On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:40 PM, icsi...@ics-base.net wrote: Milton here on this list from Valve has previously stated that they run around 40 instances per machine. Overall there are somewhat 2500-3000 servers total from Valve to L4D/L4D2. -ics 31.7.2010 2:36, tom nikitopoulos kirjoitti: Does Valve run their own servers? Off their machines on their own ip's just wondering On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.uk wrote: While I don't agree we the tone, I do agree with the sentiment as my email the other day pointed out. The release schedule, lack their off, poor timing Friday Evening ( the biggest peek play time ) and no notification is really beginning to grind. C'mon guys, we want the updates but work with us here to help provide a quality service to your customers please! Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:12 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
Yes, we do. From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tom nikitopoulos [screwtop...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 4:36 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates Does Valve run their own servers? Off their machines on their own ip's just wondering On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.ukwrote: While I don't agree we the tone, I do agree with the sentiment as my email the other day pointed out. The release schedule, lack their off, poor timing Friday Evening ( the biggest peek play time ) and no notification is really beginning to grind. C'mon guys, we want the updates but work with us here to help provide a quality service to your customers please! Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:12 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
We have a server farm in Frankfurt. So I am surprised why you would be getting US servers. If you can send me (off list) a sample of your IP's and the IP's you are being connecting to so we can take a look at our geo-ip database to see if we need to make some adjustments. This should have improved when we rolled out the new master servers a few months back. Any game using the new master servers uses a new geo-ip system to locate the nearest server. This mostly obsoletes the requirement for sv_region from what I understand. From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics [...@ics-base.net] Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 6:30 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates Lots of people play on best available ones, atleast that is the case in Europe. This is due to no free Valve servers being available close and they always end up to US servers with 150ms pings or just cannot get any servers to play on. Besides, if the players use mm_dedicated_force_servers list or use the option play on a steamgroup server, it will overwrite the option official dedicated on lobby. I've had lots of players on my own servers and considering the game's age, the drop since the days when they were always full after the release is also taking it's toll. Infact my L4D servers have been more full lately than the L4D2 ones. I guess people have suddenly started playing the older one again more than before. They were sitting most time of the day empty before. -ics 31.7.2010 4:15, tom nikitopoulos kirjoitti: Adam- So we,admins on this list are best available and only Valve is Official? If this is true (which it probably is) why run your own server? I mean you dont play on best avail servers right? On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Adam Smithabsmi...@gmail.com wrote: From my experience when using best available you end up on some crappy highly modded server no one in the lobby wants to play on and its either back to lobby or rage quits. One thing that I would like to see is a change so that if you can't find a server you don't automatically go into localhost mode. So many people end up on a localhost and don't even know it. On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Johnj883...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason you saw such a big drop in players is because Valve decided to change the default lobby setting from Best Available Dedicated to Official Dedicated, so the majority of the players are playing on Valve's official servers and only a minority of people actually change that to Best Available. On 07/30/2010 08:03 PM, tom nikitopoulos wrote: Before the major update like maybe 2 months ago I was high on the horse. I am small time (I run 10 boxes off of 5 ip's) I had a couple of decent ranked stock l4d2 servers. I was thinking oh yeah baby- I was like a little kid checking game-monitor.com every two days. Then after the update monsoon (and maybe college kids leaving for summer) my decent ranked servers went to crap.I thought I had done something wrong,but I wasnt sure. After this I went on game-monitor.com and checked top ranked l4d2 servers and they were all Valve servers. I was like wth? I realize that sv_region may have needed some fixin but I dunno. Steven, but work with us here to help provide a quality service to your customers please! Who are the customers here? I don't charge for my servers. I not really prepared to do so. Does anybody here pay Valve for the right to run gameservers for Valve? Or the downloads of files and updates? My point is this- there is no leverage for Valve or Activision to do anything but the way they wanna do it /off soapbox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
Thanks guys, I have feed your comments back to the L4D2 team. From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of tom nikitopoulos [screwtop...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 4:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates Yeah you just get done with work,and bam it's time to update all of your l4d2 servers.Perfect timing. On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Xavier Kerestesy xav...@kerestesy.comwrote: The changes are due to the weekly Mutation Mod, which most people don't play anymore. I think the frequency is too fast, maybe once a month, but weekly is too much of a headache. They need to fix the characters and their flaws, unfortunately, I've seen a huge flux of people moving back to l4d1 as the characters work better. Boomer for an example. On 7/30/2010 3:20 PM, Nephyrin Zey wrote: Stop updating your game valve, wtf. On 07/30/2010 03:12 PM, Saint K. wrote: Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
Stop updating your game valve, wtf. On 07/30/2010 03:12 PM, Saint K. wrote: Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
/care On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net wrote: Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
/sarcasm On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Adam Smith absmi...@gmail.com wrote: /care On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net wrote: Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
Do you seriously think that having updates is a bad thing? Though I agree that the time isn't exactly favorable to people in europe (10-11pm friday evening). -ics 31.7.2010 1:12, Saint K. kirjoitti: Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
The changes are due to the weekly Mutation Mod, which most people don't play anymore. I think the frequency is too fast, maybe once a month, but weekly is too much of a headache. They need to fix the characters and their flaws, unfortunately, I've seen a huge flux of people moving back to l4d1 as the characters work better. Boomer for an example. On 7/30/2010 3:20 PM, Nephyrin Zey wrote: Stop updating your game valve, wtf. On 07/30/2010 03:12 PM, Saint K. wrote: Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
Yeah you just get done with work,and bam it's time to update all of your l4d2 servers.Perfect timing. On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Xavier Kerestesy xav...@kerestesy.comwrote: The changes are due to the weekly Mutation Mod, which most people don't play anymore. I think the frequency is too fast, maybe once a month, but weekly is too much of a headache. They need to fix the characters and their flaws, unfortunately, I've seen a huge flux of people moving back to l4d1 as the characters work better. Boomer for an example. On 7/30/2010 3:20 PM, Nephyrin Zey wrote: Stop updating your game valve, wtf. On 07/30/2010 03:12 PM, Saint K. wrote: Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
/this we should just be happy about valve actually doing something (unlike css before the engine update). - Original Message - From: ics i...@ics-base.net To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates Do you seriously think that having updates is a bad thing? Though I agree that the time isn't exactly favorable to people in europe (10-11pm friday evening). -ics 31.7.2010 1:12, Saint K. kirjoitti: Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
Okay,okay Im sorry. Tell me why then(with hands pointing to sky.) must valve FUCKING update motd,txt everytime? Ive learned my lesson- now I just keep a copy of my motd on my gamer for when friday nite rolls around. Some conspiracy theories are starting to flow in my head On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Steffen Schmolinske dud...@mp-gaming.comwrote: /this we should just be happy about valve actually doing something (unlike css before the engine update). - Original Message - From: ics i...@ics-base.net To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates Do you seriously think that having updates is a bad thing? Though I agree that the time isn't exactly favorable to people in europe (10-11pm friday evening). -ics 31.7.2010 1:12, Saint K. kirjoitti: Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
While I don't agree we the tone, I do agree with the sentiment as my email the other day pointed out. The release schedule, lack their off, poor timing Friday Evening ( the biggest peek play time ) and no notification is really beginning to grind. C'mon guys, we want the updates but work with us here to help provide a quality service to your customers please! Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:12 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
Put this line in your server.cfg: motdfile somefile.txt where the somefile.txt is your motd. Then it won't get overwritten and doesn't matter if the default one does. You can do the hostfile. -ics 31.7.2010 2:22, tom nikitopoulos kirjoitti: Okay,okay Im sorry. Tell me why then(with hands pointing to sky.) must valve FUCKING update motd,txt everytime? Ive learned my lesson- now I just keep a copy of my motd on my gamer for when friday nite rolls around. Some conspiracy theories are starting to flow in my head On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Steffen Schmolinske dud...@mp-gaming.comwrote: /this we should just be happy about valve actually doing something (unlike css before the engine update). - Original Message - From: icsi...@ics-base.net To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates Do you seriously think that having updates is a bad thing? Though I agree that the time isn't exactly favorable to people in europe (10-11pm friday evening). -ics 31.7.2010 1:12, Saint K. kirjoitti: Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
Does Valve run their own servers? Off their machines on their own ip's just wondering On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.ukwrote: While I don't agree we the tone, I do agree with the sentiment as my email the other day pointed out. The release schedule, lack their off, poor timing Friday Evening ( the biggest peek play time ) and no notification is really beginning to grind. C'mon guys, we want the updates but work with us here to help provide a quality service to your customers please! Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:12 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
It's still annoying to have to do that, though. It's a recent development, before it would at least make a backup before overwriting. On 7/30/2010 7:34 PM, ics wrote: Put this line in your server.cfg: motdfile somefile.txt where the somefile.txt is your motd. Then it won't get overwritten and doesn't matter if the default one does. You can do the hostfile. -ics 31.7.2010 2:22, tom nikitopoulos kirjoitti: Okay,okay Im sorry. Tell me why then(with hands pointing to sky.) must valve FUCKING update motd,txt everytime? Ive learned my lesson- now I just keep a copy of my motd on my gamer for when friday nite rolls around. Some conspiracy theories are starting to flow in my head On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Steffen Schmolinske dud...@mp-gaming.comwrote: /this we should just be happy about valve actually doing something (unlike css before the engine update). - Original Message - From: icsi...@ics-base.net To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 12:48 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates Do you seriously think that having updates is a bad thing? Though I agree that the time isn't exactly favorable to people in europe (10-11pm friday evening). -ics 31.7.2010 1:12, Saint K. kirjoitti: Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
Milton here on this list from Valve has previously stated that they run around 40 instances per machine. Overall there are somewhat 2500-3000 servers total from Valve to L4D/L4D2. -ics 31.7.2010 2:36, tom nikitopoulos kirjoitti: Does Valve run their own servers? Off their machines on their own ip's just wondering On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Steven Hartlandkill...@multiplay.co.ukwrote: While I don't agree we the tone, I do agree with the sentiment as my email the other day pointed out. The release schedule, lack their off, poor timing Friday Evening ( the biggest peek play time ) and no notification is really beginning to grind. C'mon guys, we want the updates but work with us here to help provide a quality service to your customers please! Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Saint K.sai...@specialattack.net To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:12 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
Before the major update like maybe 2 months ago I was high on the horse. I am small time (I run 10 boxes off of 5 ip's) I had a couple of decent ranked stock l4d2 servers. I was thinking oh yeah baby- I was like a little kid checking game-monitor.com every two days. Then after the update monsoon (and maybe college kids leaving for summer) my decent ranked servers went to crap.I thought I had done something wrong,but I wasnt sure. After this I went on game-monitor.com and checked top ranked l4d2 servers and they were all Valve servers. I was like wth? I realize that sv_region may have needed some fixin but I dunno. Steven, but work with us here to help provide a quality service to your customers please! Who are the customers here? I don't charge for my servers. I not really prepared to do so. Does anybody here pay Valve for the right to run gameservers for Valve? Or the downloads of files and updates? My point is this- there is no leverage for Valve or Activision to do anything but the way they wanna do it /off soapbox On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:40 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: Milton here on this list from Valve has previously stated that they run around 40 instances per machine. Overall there are somewhat 2500-3000 servers total from Valve to L4D/L4D2. -ics 31.7.2010 2:36, tom nikitopoulos kirjoitti: Does Valve run their own servers? Off their machines on their own ip's just wondering On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Steven Hartlandkill...@multiplay.co.uk wrote: While I don't agree we the tone, I do agree with the sentiment as my email the other day pointed out. The release schedule, lack their off, poor timing Friday Evening ( the biggest peek play time ) and no notification is really beginning to grind. C'mon guys, we want the updates but work with us here to help provide a quality service to your customers please! Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Saint K.sai...@specialattack.net To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:12 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
What kind of system administrators don't know how to set-up a cron job? On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:40 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: Milton here on this list from Valve has previously stated that they run around 40 instances per machine. Overall there are somewhat 2500-3000 servers total from Valve to L4D/L4D2. -ics 31.7.2010 2:36, tom nikitopoulos kirjoitti: Does Valve run their own servers? Off their machines on their own ip's just wondering On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Steven Hartlandkill...@multiplay.co.uk wrote: While I don't agree we the tone, I do agree with the sentiment as my email the other day pointed out. The release schedule, lack their off, poor timing Friday Evening ( the biggest peek play time ) and no notification is really beginning to grind. C'mon guys, we want the updates but work with us here to help provide a quality service to your customers please! Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Saint K.sai...@specialattack.net To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:12 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
Guys like me who sell produce for a living. Admit it, replacing of the motd file every update makes no doggone sense. On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Ben Mendis dragonwis...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of system administrators don't know how to set-up a cron job? On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:40 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: Milton here on this list from Valve has previously stated that they run around 40 instances per machine. Overall there are somewhat 2500-3000 servers total from Valve to L4D/L4D2. -ics 31.7.2010 2:36, tom nikitopoulos kirjoitti: Does Valve run their own servers? Off their machines on their own ip's just wondering On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.uk wrote: While I don't agree we the tone, I do agree with the sentiment as my email the other day pointed out. The release schedule, lack their off, poor timing Friday Evening ( the biggest peek play time ) and no notification is really beginning to grind. C'mon guys, we want the updates but work with us here to help provide a quality service to your customers please! Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Saint K.sai...@specialattack.net To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:12 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
The main reason you saw such a big drop in players is because Valve decided to change the default lobby setting from Best Available Dedicated to Official Dedicated, so the majority of the players are playing on Valve's official servers and only a minority of people actually change that to Best Available. On 07/30/2010 08:03 PM, tom nikitopoulos wrote: Before the major update like maybe 2 months ago I was high on the horse. I am small time (I run 10 boxes off of 5 ip's) I had a couple of decent ranked stock l4d2 servers. I was thinking oh yeah baby- I was like a little kid checking game-monitor.com every two days. Then after the update monsoon (and maybe college kids leaving for summer) my decent ranked servers went to crap.I thought I had done something wrong,but I wasnt sure. After this I went on game-monitor.com and checked top ranked l4d2 servers and they were all Valve servers. I was like wth? I realize that sv_region may have needed some fixin but I dunno. Steven, but work with us here to help provide a quality service to your customers please! Who are the customers here? I don't charge for my servers. I not really prepared to do so. Does anybody here pay Valve for the right to run gameservers for Valve? Or the downloads of files and updates? My point is this- there is no leverage for Valve or Activision to do anything but the way they wanna do it /off soapbox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
From my experience when using best available you end up on some crappy highly modded server no one in the lobby wants to play on and its either back to lobby or rage quits. One thing that I would like to see is a change so that if you can't find a server you don't automatically go into localhost mode. So many people end up on a localhost and don't even know it. On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:17 PM, John j883...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason you saw such a big drop in players is because Valve decided to change the default lobby setting from Best Available Dedicated to Official Dedicated, so the majority of the players are playing on Valve's official servers and only a minority of people actually change that to Best Available. On 07/30/2010 08:03 PM, tom nikitopoulos wrote: Before the major update like maybe 2 months ago I was high on the horse. I am small time (I run 10 boxes off of 5 ip's) I had a couple of decent ranked stock l4d2 servers. I was thinking oh yeah baby- I was like a little kid checking game-monitor.com every two days. Then after the update monsoon (and maybe college kids leaving for summer) my decent ranked servers went to crap.I thought I had done something wrong,but I wasnt sure. After this I went on game-monitor.com and checked top ranked l4d2 servers and they were all Valve servers. I was like wth? I realize that sv_region may have needed some fixin but I dunno. Steven, but work with us here to help provide a quality service to your customers please! Who are the customers here? I don't charge for my servers. I not really prepared to do so. Does anybody here pay Valve for the right to run gameservers for Valve? Or the downloads of files and updates? My point is this- there is no leverage for Valve or Activision to do anything but the way they wanna do it /off soapbox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
Adam- So we,admins on this list are best available and only Valve is Official? If this is true (which it probably is) why run your own server? I mean you dont play on best avail servers right? On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Adam Smith absmi...@gmail.com wrote: From my experience when using best available you end up on some crappy highly modded server no one in the lobby wants to play on and its either back to lobby or rage quits. One thing that I would like to see is a change so that if you can't find a server you don't automatically go into localhost mode. So many people end up on a localhost and don't even know it. On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:17 PM, John j883...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason you saw such a big drop in players is because Valve decided to change the default lobby setting from Best Available Dedicated to Official Dedicated, so the majority of the players are playing on Valve's official servers and only a minority of people actually change that to Best Available. On 07/30/2010 08:03 PM, tom nikitopoulos wrote: Before the major update like maybe 2 months ago I was high on the horse. I am small time (I run 10 boxes off of 5 ip's) I had a couple of decent ranked stock l4d2 servers. I was thinking oh yeah baby- I was like a little kid checking game-monitor.com every two days. Then after the update monsoon (and maybe college kids leaving for summer) my decent ranked servers went to crap.I thought I had done something wrong,but I wasnt sure. After this I went on game-monitor.com and checked top ranked l4d2 servers and they were all Valve servers. I was like wth? I realize that sv_region may have needed some fixin but I dunno. Steven, but work with us here to help provide a quality service to your customers please! Who are the customers here? I don't charge for my servers. I not really prepared to do so. Does anybody here pay Valve for the right to run gameservers for Valve? Or the downloads of files and updates? My point is this- there is no leverage for Valve or Activision to do anything but the way they wanna do it /off soapbox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
I am sorry for the rant. I happy now. I just read on msn that heidi montag is divorcing spencer. Dibs On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:15 PM, tom nikitopoulos screwtop...@gmail.comwrote: Adam- So we,admins on this list are best available and only Valve is Official? If this is true (which it probably is) why run your own server? I mean you dont play on best avail servers right? On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Adam Smith absmi...@gmail.com wrote: From my experience when using best available you end up on some crappy highly modded server no one in the lobby wants to play on and its either back to lobby or rage quits. One thing that I would like to see is a change so that if you can't find a server you don't automatically go into localhost mode. So many people end up on a localhost and don't even know it. On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:17 PM, John j883...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason you saw such a big drop in players is because Valve decided to change the default lobby setting from Best Available Dedicated to Official Dedicated, so the majority of the players are playing on Valve's official servers and only a minority of people actually change that to Best Available. On 07/30/2010 08:03 PM, tom nikitopoulos wrote: Before the major update like maybe 2 months ago I was high on the horse. I am small time (I run 10 boxes off of 5 ip's) I had a couple of decent ranked stock l4d2 servers. I was thinking oh yeah baby- I was like a little kid checking game-monitor.com every two days. Then after the update monsoon (and maybe college kids leaving for summer) my decent ranked servers went to crap.I thought I had done something wrong,but I wasnt sure. After this I went on game-monitor.com and checked top ranked l4d2 servers and they were all Valve servers. I was like wth? I realize that sv_region may have needed some fixin but I dunno. Steven, but work with us here to help provide a quality service to your customers please! Who are the customers here? I don't charge for my servers. I not really prepared to do so. Does anybody here pay Valve for the right to run gameservers for Valve? Or the downloads of files and updates? My point is this- there is no leverage for Valve or Activision to do anything but the way they wanna do it /off soapbox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
Lots of people play on best available ones, atleast that is the case in Europe. This is due to no free Valve servers being available close and they always end up to US servers with 150ms pings or just cannot get any servers to play on. Besides, if the players use mm_dedicated_force_servers list or use the option play on a steamgroup server, it will overwrite the option official dedicated on lobby. I've had lots of players on my own servers and considering the game's age, the drop since the days when they were always full after the release is also taking it's toll. Infact my L4D servers have been more full lately than the L4D2 ones. I guess people have suddenly started playing the older one again more than before. They were sitting most time of the day empty before. -ics 31.7.2010 4:15, tom nikitopoulos kirjoitti: Adam- So we,admins on this list are best available and only Valve is Official? If this is true (which it probably is) why run your own server? I mean you dont play on best avail servers right? On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Adam Smithabsmi...@gmail.com wrote: From my experience when using best available you end up on some crappy highly modded server no one in the lobby wants to play on and its either back to lobby or rage quits. One thing that I would like to see is a change so that if you can't find a server you don't automatically go into localhost mode. So many people end up on a localhost and don't even know it. On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Johnj883...@gmail.com wrote: The main reason you saw such a big drop in players is because Valve decided to change the default lobby setting from Best Available Dedicated to Official Dedicated, so the majority of the players are playing on Valve's official servers and only a minority of people actually change that to Best Available. On 07/30/2010 08:03 PM, tom nikitopoulos wrote: Before the major update like maybe 2 months ago I was high on the horse. I am small time (I run 10 boxes off of 5 ip's) I had a couple of decent ranked stock l4d2 servers. I was thinking oh yeah baby- I was like a little kid checking game-monitor.com every two days. Then after the update monsoon (and maybe college kids leaving for summer) my decent ranked servers went to crap.I thought I had done something wrong,but I wasnt sure. After this I went on game-monitor.com and checked top ranked l4d2 servers and they were all Valve servers. I was like wth? I realize that sv_region may have needed some fixin but I dunno. Steven, but work with us here to help provide a quality service to your customers please! Who are the customers here? I don't charge for my servers. I not really prepared to do so. Does anybody here pay Valve for the right to run gameservers for Valve? Or the downloads of files and updates? My point is this- there is no leverage for Valve or Activision to do anything but the way they wanna do it /off soapbox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:14 PM, tom nikitopoulos screwtop...@gmail.comwrote: Guys like me who sell produce for a living. Speaking as a four-year veteran of Trader Joe's, that's really no excuse at all. Admit it, replacing of the motd file every update makes no doggone sense. Which is why you use 'motdfile custom_motd.txt' in your server.cfg instead of fighting with the updater. It all just boils down to learning how to properly use the tools at your disposal. Don't blame the Valve developers for your own incompetence. There is already plenty of things we can legitimately blame on them. On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Ben Mendis dragonwis...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of system administrators don't know how to set-up a cron job? On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:40 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote: Milton here on this list from Valve has previously stated that they run around 40 instances per machine. Overall there are somewhat 2500-3000 servers total from Valve to L4D/L4D2. -ics 31.7.2010 2:36, tom nikitopoulos kirjoitti: Does Valve run their own servers? Off their machines on their own ip's just wondering On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.uk wrote: While I don't agree we the tone, I do agree with the sentiment as my email the other day pointed out. The release schedule, lack their off, poor timing Friday Evening ( the biggest peek play time ) and no notification is really beginning to grind. C'mon guys, we want the updates but work with us here to help provide a quality service to your customers please! Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 11:12 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] L4D2 updates Are doin my fkin head in. I've been very patient, but seriously, what the fuck is up with the weekly, and sometimes twice a week. I really can't be arsed anymore to host l4d2 due to this cycle. I've taken down all normal l4d2 servers, and just kept 2 10vs10 servers, which are on the same you can fuck off in a corner nomination list. Friday evening primetime each bloody week updates. Fucking hell who came up with this crap? //end of rant ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmas...@multiplay.co.uk. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
