RE: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
No, I was referring to end user support for the games. They will need to train their current staff / or employ new ones to handle Linux support queries. Its just another incurred cost of many. -Original Message- From: McCormack, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 March 2004 10:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred? >you have to remember things like ongoing support etc... You are talking about windblows ? See the recent news that win98 is no longer being supported by MS. This was their most stable OS and the best for gaming (imo). It will rapidly become obsolete as will eventually all MS OSs to force you to upgrade to their latest and greatest(?), aka another crap product that they have hacked together to get more money in Bills pockets. I am sure there are still a lot of people (through choice) that are running RH 7 and lower because they still can, among other linux OSs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Sykes Sent: 19 March 2004 10:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred? I'm sure all of the big game companies do in-depth research into what the gaming population is using. When they think it's economically feasible for them to start making games Linux compatible I'm sure we will see more and more games ported. Its not just how many Linux gamers are out there - you have to remember things like ongoing support etc... -Original Message- From: Mad Scientist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 March 2004 05:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred? According to the great words of James Sykes: > As a business decision it is very simple. How much money will it take > to develop an application on Linux and how much money will it make. Develop? No, port. 95% of the code is already portable. All the game logic and all the OpenGL code. The only "Windows" code that would need to change would be the start-up UI... which, by the way, was mostly re-written for steam... hmmm... on second thought, forget about it. The only things that are still working are the parts Valve hasn't touched. -Mad -- http://www.madslab.com "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." - Prime Minister Jean Chrétien ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux *** This e-mail and its attachments are confidential and are intended for the above named recipient only. If this has come to you in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. You must take no action based on this, nor must you copy or disclose it or any part of its contents to any person or organisation. Statements and opinions contained in this email may not necessarily represent those of Littlewoods. Please note that e-mail communications may be monitored. The registered office of Littlewoods Limited and its subsidiaries is 100 Old Hall Street, Liverpool, L70 1AB. Registered number of Littlewoods Limited is 262152. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
>you have to remember things like ongoing support etc... You are talking about windblows ? See the recent news that win98 is no longer being supported by MS. This was their most stable OS and the best for gaming (imo). It will rapidly become obsolete as will eventually all MS OSs to force you to upgrade to their latest and greatest(?), aka another crap product that they have hacked together to get more money in Bills pockets. I am sure there are still a lot of people (through choice) that are running RH 7 and lower because they still can, among other linux OSs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Sykes Sent: 19 March 2004 10:25 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred? I'm sure all of the big game companies do in-depth research into what the gaming population is using. When they think it's economically feasible for them to start making games Linux compatible I'm sure we will see more and more games ported. Its not just how many Linux gamers are out there - you have to remember things like ongoing support etc... -Original Message- From: Mad Scientist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 March 2004 05:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred? According to the great words of James Sykes: > As a business decision it is very simple. How much money will it take > to develop an application on Linux and how much money will it make. Develop? No, port. 95% of the code is already portable. All the game logic and all the OpenGL code. The only "Windows" code that would need to change would be the start-up UI... which, by the way, was mostly re-written for steam... hmmm... on second thought, forget about it. The only things that are still working are the parts Valve hasn't touched. -Mad -- http://www.madslab.com "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." - Prime Minister Jean Chrétien ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux *** This e-mail and its attachments are confidential and are intended for the above named recipient only. If this has come to you in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. You must take no action based on this, nor must you copy or disclose it or any part of its contents to any person or organisation. Statements and opinions contained in this email may not necessarily represent those of Littlewoods. Please note that e-mail communications may be monitored. The registered office of Littlewoods Limited and its subsidiaries is 100 Old Hall Street, Liverpool, L70 1AB. Registered number of Littlewoods Limited is 262152. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
I'm sure all of the big game companies do in-depth research into what the gaming population is using. When they think it's economically feasible for them to start making games Linux compatible I'm sure we will see more and more games ported. Its not just how many Linux gamers are out there - you have to remember things like ongoing support etc... -Original Message- From: Mad Scientist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 March 2004 05:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred? According to the great words of James Sykes: > As a business decision it is very simple. How much money will it take > to develop an application on Linux and how much money will it make. Develop? No, port. 95% of the code is already portable. All the game logic and all the OpenGL code. The only "Windows" code that would need to change would be the start-up UI... which, by the way, was mostly re-written for steam... hmmm... on second thought, forget about it. The only things that are still working are the parts Valve hasn't touched. -Mad -- http://www.madslab.com "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." Prime Minister Jean Chrétien ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
What do you mean they haven't added anything to Counter-Strike since they bought it? Of course they have! They added STEAM :) /me ducks > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Judge > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:23 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred? > > They have added nothing to this game since they bought it. > > The fact that they decided to control cheating shows how little they > have contributed. > > They haven't got a fscking clue. > > Matt. > > dual_bereta_r0x wrote: > > > James Clark wrote: > > > >> an empty server > >> cpu% mem% > >> 24.7 48.4 > >> > >> metamod + amxmod, cs is unplayable without _real_ player management > >> utilities > > > > > > don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D > > > > -- > > dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest > > ArenaNetwork Lan House & Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
According to the great words of James Sykes: > For the time being I don't think the Linux gamer represents a large > enough percentage of players to spend time and money on, especially > on such an aging game. Use Winex or something. Everybody I know who left HL and moved to UT or ET did so because of Linux support. I think the percentage is higher than most people think. Like many, I do *everything* in Linux except (for only a couple hours a week and declining) play HL mods. -Mad -- http://www.madslab.com "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." Prime Minister Jean Chrétien ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
According to the great words of James Sykes: > As a business decision it is very simple. How much money will it take > to develop an application on Linux and how much money will it make. Develop? No, port. 95% of the code is already portable. All the game logic and all the OpenGL code. The only "Windows" code that would need to change would be the start-up UI... which, by the way, was mostly re-written for steam... hmmm... on second thought, forget about it. The only things that are still working are the parts Valve hasn't touched. -Mad -- http://www.madslab.com "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." Prime Minister Jean Chrétien ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
According to the great words of James Sykes: > I would rather they didn't _WASTE_ time on a Linux client. > If you want to play games then stick to Windows. My version of Windows is no longer supported. Can you send me $200 to upgrade it so I can play my $20 game? Thanks! -Mad -- http://www.madslab.com "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." Prime Minister Jean Chrétien ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
I think it will be a good few years at LEAST before you start seeing widespread adoption of Linux clients. As a business decision it is very simple. How much money will it take to develop an application on Linux and how much money will it make. Market share Guff? Not basic business sense then? -Original Message- From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 March 2004 03:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred? On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 02:45:18AM -, James Sykes wrote: > > No. Fuck that. Why should I _have_ to? > > It's a waste of developer time. Not when it's done from the outset. It also helps find bugs, that may not have been found otherwise. > For the time being I don't think the Linux gamer represents a large > enough percentage of players to spend time and money on, especially on > such an aging game. Use Winex or something. Like I said, marketshare guff. You must have an MSCE =D > > > -Original Message- > From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 19 March 2004 02:16 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred? > > > If you want to play games then stick to Windows. > > No. Fuck that. Why should I _have_ to? > > I can play these games under linux: > enemy-territory > ut2004 > never winter nights > doom3 (not yet, but JC has said it will happen) > quake3 > > There is no argument against linux being a viable platform for games, > it's just marketshare guff. I'd even buy CS again for a client port, > I imagine others would too. We all also know the steam client works > well under linux aswell. > > I'll be realistic - I don't beleive it'll happen. > > > I shouldn't complain too much, it's a two year old server but where > have > > all those extra CPU cycles gone? I can't really think of any great > > improvements. > > It ramped up horribly with voice chat, "security" modules and in game > hltv-like-stuff-when-dead-guff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 19 March 2004 12:25 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred? > > > > > > I don't doubt that the guys that do the work want to fix all manner of > > stuff... it'll be the people that control the purse strings that hold > > things up, and coordinate what takes priority over what. > > > > a native linux client would breath some more life into the game, hint > > hint =D the ONLY reason I still use Windows is to play CS =/ > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:34:55PM +, Matt Judge wrote: > > > I forgot to add the numerous remote exploits they have been > > > lackadaisical about fixing, the numerous viruses they catch and > > > contaminate the list with, trojans they release their source code > > with... > > > > > > > > > > > > Matt Judge wrote: > > > > > > >They have added nothing to this game since they bought it. > > > > > > > >The fact that they decided to control cheating shows how little > they > > > >have contributed. > > > > > > > >They haven't got a fscking clue. > > > > > > > >Matt. > > > > > > > >dual_bereta_r0x wrote: > > > > > > > >>James Clark wrote: > > > >> > > > >>>an empty server > > > >>>cpu% mem% > > > >>>24.7 48.4 > > > >>> > > > >>>metamod + amxmod, cs is unplayable without _real_ player > > management > > > >>>utilities > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D > > > >> > > > >>-- > > > >>dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest > > > >>ArenaNetwork Lan House & Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > > > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > >please visit: > > > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscr
Re: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 02:45:18AM -, James Sykes wrote: > > No. Fuck that. Why should I _have_ to? > > It's a waste of developer time. Not when it's done from the outset. It also helps find bugs, that may not have been found otherwise. > For the time being I don't think the Linux gamer represents a large > enough percentage of players to spend time and money on, especially on > such an aging game. Use Winex or something. Like I said, marketshare guff. You must have an MSCE =D > > > -Original Message- > From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 19 March 2004 02:16 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred? > > > If you want to play games then stick to Windows. > > No. Fuck that. Why should I _have_ to? > > I can play these games under linux: > enemy-territory > ut2004 > never winter nights > doom3 (not yet, but JC has said it will happen) > quake3 > > There is no argument against linux being a viable platform for games, > it's just marketshare guff. I'd even buy CS again for a client port, > I imagine others would too. We all also know the steam client works > well under linux aswell. > > I'll be realistic - I don't beleive it'll happen. > > > I shouldn't complain too much, it's a two year old server but where > have > > all those extra CPU cycles gone? I can't really think of any great > > improvements. > > It ramped up horribly with voice chat, "security" modules and in game > hltv-like-stuff-when-dead-guff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 19 March 2004 12:25 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred? > > > > > > I don't doubt that the guys that do the work want to fix all manner of > > stuff... it'll be the people that control the purse strings that hold > > things up, and coordinate what takes priority over what. > > > > a native linux client would breath some more life into the game, hint > > hint =D the ONLY reason I still use Windows is to play CS =/ > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:34:55PM +, Matt Judge wrote: > > > I forgot to add the numerous remote exploits they have been > > > lackadaisical about fixing, the numerous viruses they catch and > > > contaminate the list with, trojans they release their source code > > with... > > > > > > > > > > > > Matt Judge wrote: > > > > > > >They have added nothing to this game since they bought it. > > > > > > > >The fact that they decided to control cheating shows how little > they > > > >have contributed. > > > > > > > >They haven't got a fscking clue. > > > > > > > >Matt. > > > > > > > >dual_bereta_r0x wrote: > > > > > > > >>James Clark wrote: > > > >> > > > >>>an empty server > > > >>>cpu% mem% > > > >>>24.7 48.4 > > > >>> > > > >>>metamod + amxmod, cs is unplayable without _real_ player > > management > > > >>>utilities > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D > > > >> > > > >>-- > > > >>dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest > > > >>ArenaNetwork Lan House & Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > > > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > >please visit: > > > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
> No. Fuck that. Why should I _have_ to? It's a waste of developer time. For the time being I don't think the Linux gamer represents a large enough percentage of players to spend time and money on, especially on such an aging game. Use Winex or something. -Original Message- From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 March 2004 02:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred? > If you want to play games then stick to Windows. No. Fuck that. Why should I _have_ to? I can play these games under linux: enemy-territory ut2004 never winter nights doom3 (not yet, but JC has said it will happen) quake3 There is no argument against linux being a viable platform for games, it's just marketshare guff. I'd even buy CS again for a client port, I imagine others would too. We all also know the steam client works well under linux aswell. I'll be realistic - I don't beleive it'll happen. > I shouldn't complain too much, it's a two year old server but where have > all those extra CPU cycles gone? I can't really think of any great > improvements. It ramped up horribly with voice chat, "security" modules and in game hltv-like-stuff-when-dead-guff. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 19 March 2004 12:25 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred? > > > I don't doubt that the guys that do the work want to fix all manner of > stuff... it'll be the people that control the purse strings that hold > things up, and coordinate what takes priority over what. > > a native linux client would breath some more life into the game, hint > hint =D the ONLY reason I still use Windows is to play CS =/ > > > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:34:55PM +, Matt Judge wrote: > > I forgot to add the numerous remote exploits they have been > > lackadaisical about fixing, the numerous viruses they catch and > > contaminate the list with, trojans they release their source code > with... > > > > > > > > Matt Judge wrote: > > > > >They have added nothing to this game since they bought it. > > > > > >The fact that they decided to control cheating shows how little they > > >have contributed. > > > > > >They haven't got a fscking clue. > > > > > >Matt. > > > > > >dual_bereta_r0x wrote: > > > > > >>James Clark wrote: > > >> > > >>>an empty server > > >>>cpu% mem% > > >>>24.7 48.4 > > >>> > > >>>metamod + amxmod, cs is unplayable without _real_ player > management > > >>>utilities > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D > > >> > > >>-- > > >>dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest > > >>ArenaNetwork Lan House & Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > >please visit: > > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[OT] Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
> If you want to play games then stick to Windows. No. Fuck that. Why should I _have_ to? I can play these games under linux: enemy-territory ut2004 never winter nights doom3 (not yet, but JC has said it will happen) quake3 There is no argument against linux being a viable platform for games, it's just marketshare guff. I'd even buy CS again for a client port, I imagine others would too. We all also know the steam client works well under linux aswell. I'll be realistic - I don't beleive it'll happen. > I shouldn't complain too much, it's a two year old server but where have > all those extra CPU cycles gone? I can't really think of any great > improvements. It ramped up horribly with voice chat, "security" modules and in game hltv-like-stuff-when-dead-guff. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 19 March 2004 12:25 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred? > > > I don't doubt that the guys that do the work want to fix all manner of > stuff... it'll be the people that control the purse strings that hold > things up, and coordinate what takes priority over what. > > a native linux client would breath some more life into the game, hint > hint =D the ONLY reason I still use Windows is to play CS =/ > > > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:34:55PM +, Matt Judge wrote: > > I forgot to add the numerous remote exploits they have been > > lackadaisical about fixing, the numerous viruses they catch and > > contaminate the list with, trojans they release their source code > with... > > > > > > > > Matt Judge wrote: > > > > >They have added nothing to this game since they bought it. > > > > > >The fact that they decided to control cheating shows how little they > > >have contributed. > > > > > >They haven't got a fscking clue. > > > > > >Matt. > > > > > >dual_bereta_r0x wrote: > > > > > >>James Clark wrote: > > >> > > >>>an empty server > > >>>cpu% mem% > > >>>24.7 48.4 > > >>> > > >>>metamod + amxmod, cs is unplayable without _real_ player > management > > >>>utilities > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D > > >> > > >>-- > > >>dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest > > >>ArenaNetwork Lan House & Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >___ > > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > >please visit: > > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
I would rather they didn't _WASTE_ time on a Linux client. If you want to play games then stick to Windows. My main concern is CPU usage. Two years ago I was running 8 servers on a machine that is now having problems running 4. I shouldn't complain too much, it's a two year old server but where have all those extra CPU cycles gone? I can't really think of any great improvements. -Original Message- From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 March 2004 12:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred? I don't doubt that the guys that do the work want to fix all manner of stuff... it'll be the people that control the purse strings that hold things up, and coordinate what takes priority over what. a native linux client would breath some more life into the game, hint hint =D the ONLY reason I still use Windows is to play CS =/ On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:34:55PM +, Matt Judge wrote: > I forgot to add the numerous remote exploits they have been > lackadaisical about fixing, the numerous viruses they catch and > contaminate the list with, trojans they release their source code with... > > > > Matt Judge wrote: > > >They have added nothing to this game since they bought it. > > > >The fact that they decided to control cheating shows how little they > >have contributed. > > > >They haven't got a fscking clue. > > > >Matt. > > > >dual_bereta_r0x wrote: > > > >>James Clark wrote: > >> > >>>an empty server > >>>cpu% mem% > >>>24.7 48.4 > >>> > >>>metamod + amxmod, cs is unplayable without _real_ player management > >>>utilities > >> > >> > >> > >>don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D > >> > >>-- > >>dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest > >>ArenaNetwork Lan House & Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br > > > > > > > > > >___ > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >please visit: > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
I don't doubt that the guys that do the work want to fix all manner of stuff... it'll be the people that control the purse strings that hold things up, and coordinate what takes priority over what. a native linux client would breath some more life into the game, hint hint =D the ONLY reason I still use Windows is to play CS =/ On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:34:55PM +, Matt Judge wrote: > I forgot to add the numerous remote exploits they have been > lackadaisical about fixing, the numerous viruses they catch and > contaminate the list with, trojans they release their source code with... > > > > Matt Judge wrote: > > >They have added nothing to this game since they bought it. > > > >The fact that they decided to control cheating shows how little they > >have contributed. > > > >They haven't got a fscking clue. > > > >Matt. > > > >dual_bereta_r0x wrote: > > > >>James Clark wrote: > >> > >>>an empty server > >>>cpu% mem% > >>>24.7 48.4 > >>> > >>>metamod + amxmod, cs is unplayable without _real_ player management > >>>utilities > >> > >> > >> > >>don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D > >> > >>-- > >>dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest > >>ArenaNetwork Lan House & Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br > > > > > > > > > >___ > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >please visit: > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
I forgot to add the numerous remote exploits they have been lackadaisical about fixing, the numerous viruses they catch and contaminate the list with, trojans they release their source code with... Matt Judge wrote: They have added nothing to this game since they bought it. The fact that they decided to control cheating shows how little they have contributed. They haven't got a fscking clue. Matt. dual_bereta_r0x wrote: James Clark wrote: an empty server cpu% mem% 24.7 48.4 metamod + amxmod, cs is unplayable without _real_ player management utilities don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D -- dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest ArenaNetwork Lan House & Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
They have added nothing to this game since they bought it. The fact that they decided to control cheating shows how little they have contributed. They haven't got a fscking clue. Matt. dual_bereta_r0x wrote: James Clark wrote: an empty server cpu% mem% 24.7 48.4 metamod + amxmod, cs is unplayable without _real_ player management utilities don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D -- dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest ArenaNetwork Lan House & Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
James Clark wrote: an empty server cpu% mem% 24.7 48.4 metamod + amxmod, cs is unplayable without _real_ player management utilities don't forget a _real_ anti-cheater ;D -- dual_bereta_r0x -- Alexandre Hautequest ArenaNetwork Lan House & Cyber -- www.arenanetwork.com.br Três anéis para os Reis Élficos sob este céu, Sete para os Senhores-Anões em seus rochosos corredores, Nove para Homens Mortais, fadados ao eternos sono, Um para o Senhor do Escuro em seu escuro trono Na Terra de Mordor onde as Sombras se deitam. Um Anel para a todos governar, Um Anel para encontrá-los, Um Anel para a todos trazer e na escuridão aprisioná-los Na Terra de Mordor onde as Sombras se deitam. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
an empty server cpu% mem% 24.7 48.4 metamod + amxmod, cs is unplayable without _real_ player management utilities On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 04:40:25PM +, wouter v/d Bergh wrote: > http://www.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=65878&goto=newpost > > _ > Ontvang je Hotmail & Messenger berichten op je mobiele telefoon > http://www.msn.nl/communicatie/smsdiensten/hotmailsmsv2/ > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] No memoryleak alfred?
http://www.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=65878&goto=newpost _ Ontvang je Hotmail & Messenger berichten op je mobiele telefoon http://www.msn.nl/communicatie/smsdiensten/hotmailsmsv2/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
