Re: [hlds_linux] Server config question
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 17:16, Brian A. Stumm wrote: I know that Rob is working on a way to exec admin commands by saying things that is authed by wonid matching. suppose kinda like adminmod does. With this hte admin can set up only the commands he wants his admins to use and disable rcon. I've also written a web based client for halfd to admin server via web that allows you to limit what commands can and cannot be used. Sorry I'm not really sure what your goal is here with your rcon wrapper. I was getting you want to prevent some commands from being issued or settings being changed. Not my goal...someone else's. They want to give rcon access to their customers, but don't want them to mess with the sv_maxrate, etc. The reason they want to give rcon access is so that these customers can have the full functionality of hlsw. For example, hlsw stores all player names in a wonid database if you have the rcon password. This feature is nice. So a custom frontend to halfd won't really help here. What is necessary is to be able to restrict access to a few commands and a few cvars. Dave ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server config question
antstrength wrote: Not my goal...someone else's. They want to give rcon access to their customers, but don't want them to mess with the sv_maxrate, etc. Can't the customer just be told not to mess with the rate settings? Seams like is would be easy enough to automate checking up on. I doubt too many people would mess with it if losing their account is the result. -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server config question
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 17:58, m0gely wrote: antstrength wrote: Not my goal...someone else's. They want to give rcon access to their customers, but don't want them to mess with the sv_maxrate, etc. Can't the customer just be told not to mess with the rate settings? Seams like is would be easy enough to automate checking up on. I doubt too many people would mess with it if losing their account is the result. -- - m0gely http://quake2.telestream.com/ Q2 | Q3A | Counter-strike I think that is a brilliant suggestion. It seems these customers got their admins working too hard! Dave ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Server config question
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 12:38, Douglas Nilsson wrote: And what client configuration does adminmod require if you go by wonid or ip? Can't argue about the cpu usage, haven't tested yet. /Douglas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of antstrength Sent: den 10 juni 2003 18:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Server config question On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 11:42, Tyler Overkill Schwend wrote: Just use adminmod (I guess AMXMod would do it too) and set up access to the various admin_ commands... Anything that isn't already a command can easily be made into one. - Tyler [TASF]Overkill Schwend Semper facere bonum, an a amare odium, vita mors. --- Server operator of [LCGA]Telefragged: Counter-Strike: telefragged.lynchburg.edu:27015 http://schwend-t.web.lynchburg.edu -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Florian Zschocke Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server config question Serpent wrote: That's not very acceptable for large game hosting companies. A large amount of customers love to use HLSW. I am not sure how this is related to HLSW. Are you saying you cannot use HLSW without rcon access? However I would love to not let them change the min_rate and max_rate and some others. Should be a way to disable those from rcon and need to be done via the config only. From this I read that the real point is what you want is to give your customers rcon access. In that case you could use a AM(X) plugin which provides the admin_rcon command but filters out the commands you don't want them to use. Florian. -- Want to produce professional emails and Usenet postings? http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux I would recommend amx mod over adminmod, as it uses less cpu and can be setup to not require any client configuration. Dave ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux I thought that adminmod required clients to: setinfo _admin-pass MYPASSWORD ...or something like that. No? AMXmod will let you use wonids only, without setting a client password in this manner. Dave ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Server config question
On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 12:38, Douglas Nilsson wrote: And what client configuration does adminmod require if you go by wonid or ip? Can't argue about the cpu usage, haven't tested yet. /Douglas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of antstrength Sent: den 10 juni 2003 18:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Server config question On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 11:42, Tyler Overkill Schwend wrote: Just use adminmod (I guess AMXMod would do it too) and set up access to the various admin_ commands... Anything that isn't already a command can easily be made into one. - Tyler [TASF]Overkill Schwend Semper facere bonum, an a amare odium, vita mors. --- Server operator of [LCGA]Telefragged: Counter-Strike: telefragged.lynchburg.edu:27015 http://schwend-t.web.lynchburg.edu -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Florian Zschocke Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server config question Serpent wrote: That's not very acceptable for large game hosting companies. A large amount of customers love to use HLSW. I am not sure how this is related to HLSW. Are you saying you cannot use HLSW without rcon access? However I would love to not let them change the min_rate and max_rate and some others. Should be a way to disable those from rcon and need to be done via the config only. From this I read that the real point is what you want is to give your customers rcon access. In that case you could use a AM(X) plugin which provides the admin_rcon command but filters out the commands you don't want them to use. Florian. -- Want to produce professional emails and Usenet postings? http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux I would recommend amx mod over adminmod, as it uses less cpu and can be setup to not require any client configuration. Dave ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux Using ip addy for authentication is not a good idea because most players have dynamically assigned ip addresses, and some are behind NATs, with one ip address for multiple users. Dave ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server config question
On 10 Jun 2003 13:05:46 -0400, antstrength [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that adminmod required clients to: setinfo _admin-pass MYPASSWORD ...or something like that. No? AMXmod will let you use wonids only, without setting a client password in this manner. if you leave the password part blank in your users.ini wonID::accesslevel you can connect without setting a password. -- www.tkwsping.nl ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Server config question
I'm fully aware of that most ip's use DHCP, that's why I wrote wonid too. :) And as Edwin wrote, you can use wonid only. /Douglas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of antstrength Sent: den 10 juni 2003 19:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Server config question On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 12:38, Douglas Nilsson wrote: And what client configuration does adminmod require if you go by wonid or ip? Can't argue about the cpu usage, haven't tested yet. /Douglas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of antstrength Sent: den 10 juni 2003 18:33 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Server config question On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 11:42, Tyler Overkill Schwend wrote: Just use adminmod (I guess AMXMod would do it too) and set up access to the various admin_ commands... Anything that isn't already a command can easily be made into one. - Tyler [TASF]Overkill Schwend Semper facere bonum, an a amare odium, vita mors. --- Server operator of [LCGA]Telefragged: Counter-Strike: telefragged.lynchburg.edu:27015 http://schwend-t.web.lynchburg.edu -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Florian Zschocke Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server config question Serpent wrote: That's not very acceptable for large game hosting companies. A large amount of customers love to use HLSW. I am not sure how this is related to HLSW. Are you saying you cannot use HLSW without rcon access? However I would love to not let them change the min_rate and max_rate and some others. Should be a way to disable those from rcon and need to be done via the config only. From this I read that the real point is what you want is to give your customers rcon access. In that case you could use a AM(X) plugin which provides the admin_rcon command but filters out the commands you don't want them to use. Florian. -- Want to produce professional emails and Usenet postings? http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux I would recommend amx mod over adminmod, as it uses less cpu and can be setup to not require any client configuration. Dave ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux Using ip addy for authentication is not a good idea because most players have dynamically assigned ip addresses, and some are behind NATs, with one ip address for multiple users. Dave ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server config question
- Original Message - From: Florian Zschocke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Serpent wrote: That's not very acceptable for large game hosting companies. A large amount of customers love to use HLSW. I am not sure how this is related to HLSW. Are you saying you cannot use HLSW without rcon access? No, I am saying a lot of admin like to use HLSW for rcon. Which allows them to edit all the cvars. However I would love to not let them change the min_rate and max_rate and some others. Should be a way to disable those from rcon and need to be done via the config only. From this I read that the real point is what you want is to give your customers rcon access. In that case you could use a AM(X) plugin which provides the admin_rcon command but filters out the commands you don't want them to use. Florian. But then this will not work with HLSW correct? I know about AMX mod. I wrote several mods. But I haven't seen a way to disable certain cvars from HLSW being able to edit. Brad ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Server config question
However I would love to not let them change the min_rate and max_rate and some others. Should be a way to disable those from rcon and need to be done via the config only. If you put what you want in your server.cfg it will at least be put back to the defaults on map change. At least this is the case with 3.1.1.0 - there was some talk about this changing in the latest release but the thread turned into a flamefest or something so I gave up following it. rcon should not be given to untrusted people. No-one but myself has rcon to the servers I run - I don't trust anyone. I use amxmod to give priveleges to my admins. -- James. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
