Re: [hlds_linux] Suggestion: Steam Beta Program
I think it is not on the side of Valve to test every OS with every third Party plugin or tool. My Server run as Hobby; if a update available i ask myself (when the update is optional)"Can i spend right now enough time to fix any Problems on update?" If yes i get the update, when no i get it later. I also can live with one or two days without server. On the other side are professionel Gameserver resellers. If they get the updates on custumer servers without run tests in there testcenter, nobody coul't help them. This is my opinion and sorry for the bad english. Arris ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Suggestion: Steam Beta Program
Easy on the client side, the client would have a few megabyte CSS beta cache, and the game would load the base Source caches, the CSS caches, and the CSS beta cache, so the files changed in the beta would override the default CSS ones, but there's no duplication of any files the same in the release as in the beta. Easy. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 May 2005 13:07 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Suggestion: Steam Beta Program It would be very hard for Valve to implement. Remember many of the server side updates also require client side updates (ie the map updates). You'd have a big mess if people wanted to play on a 'beta' server then also play on a 'standard' server, because the users would constantly have their client updating. Only other way I can think of is for Valve to add another game to Steam called CS Beta, but then you have a huge amount of disk space used and two games to keep updated... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Suggestion: Steam Beta Program
It would be very hard for Valve to implement. Remember many of the server side updates also require client side updates (ie the map updates). You'd have a big mess if people wanted to play on a 'beta' server then also play on a 'standard' server, because the users would constantly have their client updating. Only other way I can think of is for Valve to add another game to Steam called CS Beta, but then you have a huge amount of disk space used and two games to keep updated... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Suggestion: Steam Beta Program
> This has been suggested sinds day 1 steam started > - Original Message - > From: "Frash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Maybe it's a good idea to start up a "Steam Beta Program". I respect Alphred and his team ... but ... If it is not acceptable to release to a select set of steam beta testers, then there should be equivalent in-house testing prior to general release. Jeff Love Burgh Gaming ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Suggestion: Steam Beta Program
This has been suggested sinds day 1 steam started - Original Message - From: "Frash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 1:10 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] Suggestion: Steam Beta Program Maybe it's a good idea to start up a "Steam Beta Program". People can apply for the program on the website (and also turn it off there). If someone has enabled it Steam will automatically download the beta updates. This has a few benefits; 1) Only motivated people who want to Beta test sign up for the Beta program (No "forced", "clumsy" updates) 2) This removes some pressure on the kettle on VALVe's side; people can not complain since they have choosen to Beta test. 3) The beta testers get the latest content, which would be their main reason to become one. Same for servers; servers can update their server with the beta software so beta players (and later) can play on it. This way some servers can get a few extra hits because they are special Beta servers. (Maybe add a nice "Beta symbol" icon for Beta steam browsers) This would make the following roadmap: 1) VALVe HQ decides to add a few features and fixes a few bugs 2) The beta crew gets the update. They have 1 day to send in their bug reports. 3) The other people get the update too OR the update will get delayed and the beta testers will get a "rollback-update". Really, think of it. It turns people who complain into active feedback and bug-report providers. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Suggestion: Steam Beta Program
Maybe it's a good idea to start up a "Steam Beta Program". People can apply for the program on the website (and also turn it off there). If someone has enabled it Steam will automatically download the beta updates. This has a few benefits; 1) Only motivated people who want to Beta test sign up for the Beta program (No "forced", "clumsy" updates) 2) This removes some pressure on the kettle on VALVe's side; people can not complain since they have choosen to Beta test. 3) The beta testers get the latest content, which would be their main reason to become one. Same for servers; servers can update their server with the beta software so beta players (and later) can play on it. This way some servers can get a few extra hits because they are special Beta servers. (Maybe add a nice "Beta symbol" icon for Beta steam browsers) This would make the following roadmap: 1) VALVe HQ decides to add a few features and fixes a few bugs 2) The beta crew gets the update. They have 1 day to send in their bug reports. 3) The other people get the update too OR the update will get delayed and the beta testers will get a "rollback-update". Really, think of it. It turns people who complain into active feedback and bug-report providers. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
