Re: [hlds_linux] WINE problems...

2003-07-08 Thread James Clark
 I LOVE YOU VALVE!

here here =D

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[hlds_linux] WINE problems...

2003-07-07 Thread Brad Schulteis
I am still unable to connect to my secure servers with WINE after the
last updates. It starts the connection process, but right when it
usually says 'downloading and precaching' and the timer should go away,
it doesnt. It just freezes. Then I have to kill the process. Some
anti-cheat test is locking up wine... thanks. How about a Linux Steam
CLIENT so wine is no longer an issue That would rule!


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RE: [hlds_linux] WINE problems...

2003-07-07 Thread Tyler \Overkill\ Schwend
How about The client is for Windows. Wine is a hack. Your
Some anti-cheat test is locking up wine... statement seems a
little accusing. You're lucky that they give a SHIT about Wine.
HalfLife is a Win32 program. Always has been. And will continue
to be. I'm not entirely sure why they care at all about someone
in Linux running a Win32 program, but again, you're lucky they
do.

You know they're working on the compatibility (Despite having no
real reason to do so), so leave the attitude out next time.

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RE: [hlds_linux] WINE problems...

2003-07-07 Thread Mad Scientist
According to the great words of Tyler \Overkill\ Schwend:
 How about The client is for Windows. Wine is a hack. Your
 Some anti-cheat test is locking up wine... statement seems a
 little accusing. You're lucky that they give a SHIT about Wine.
 HalfLife is a Win32 program. Always has been. And will continue
 to be. I'm not entirely sure why they care at all about someone
 in Linux running a Win32 program, but again, you're lucky they
 do.

 You know they're working on the compatibility (Despite having no
 real reason to do so), so leave the attitude out next time.

Funny, I didn't get any attitude out of the original post. To me, it read
as somebody reporting a problem and requesting enhancements. The only
attitute is in your reply.

As to why do they care, well, their users have requested linux support, so
that's why they make it compatible. It's easier for them to make wine
compatibility rather than a full linux port so that's the direction things
are headed. We're not lucky for the support. We are the customers making
valid requests for feature enhancements, and our vendor, who we have paid,
is providing support.

One final point: WINE is not a hack, it's a re-write of the Windows API
for X. Do you call OpenGL as it is implemented in Windows a hack simply
because that was not the first platform it was implemented on? No. The
same follows here. The Win32 API may have first been written on Windows,
but it can be written equally well or better on any other platform. There
is nothing hackish about it.

-Mad

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