Re: [hlds_linux] XEON or Opteron?
From my experience Xeons sustain a much more stable FPS than the core 2 duo 16 jan 2007 kl. 22.20 skrev MelonBrew Support: Jonathan wrote: Hi, i'm about to order new machines for my game server hosting, but i can't decide between xeon and opteron i've tried a new dual quad-core xeon machine which could run 20 servers / 220 players with no big problems, but i also recently read that dual-core opterons give better performance per server than xeon id like to know if anyone here have hlds-benchmarked the two (dualcore xeon vs dualcore opteron in this case) and come up with any special results? /Jonathan ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux You might try the Core 2 Duos. I've heard very good things about them. Opterons... AMDs were never better than Intel for pure processing applications. C2Duos are very fast (I've seen a few servers running 300 players with 2 C2Ds) but it's pretty pricey comparative to Xeons which are now dropping in price and offer similar performance. Benchmarks I don't know about. It'd be interesting if there are any, though. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] XEON or Opteron?
Faster, yes. More economical, no. :) Otherwise the 30 or so P4s I spend a good chunk of my day looking after would be 30 Opterons, believe me. William Warren wrote: i have to say bzzzt!. The opties wiped the floor with the p-4's. Only when the core 2's came out did Intel get the crown back. MelonBrew Support wrote: Jonathan wrote: Hi, i'm about to order new machines for my game server hosting, but i can't decide between xeon and opteron i've tried a new dual quad-core xeon machine which could run 20 servers / 220 players with no big problems, but i also recently read that dual-core opterons give better performance per server than xeon id like to know if anyone here have hlds-benchmarked the two (dualcore xeon vs dualcore opteron in this case) and come up with any special results? /Jonathan ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux You might try the Core 2 Duos. I've heard very good things about them. Opterons... AMDs were never better than Intel for pure processing applications. C2Duos are very fast (I've seen a few servers running 300 players with 2 C2Ds) but it's pretty pricey comparative to Xeons which are now dropping in price and offer similar performance. Benchmarks I don't know about. It'd be interesting if there are any, though. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] XEON or Opteron?
Hi We searched a lot in serveradmins-forum for the answer, witch is best for servers / gameservers?, and we did came to the conclusion that Xeon is better on handling this data.. but at that time we didnt look into dual-core P4´s. But I guess that its the same diff. between P4 - dualP4 as Xeon - dualXeon. We decided to bye a dual Xeon, and we all think that it was right decision, we are trying it out by increasing the load to see when it starts to choke.. but havent reached that yet. Good Luck ! Peter L. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] XEON or Opteron?
May i ask how hard you are pushing it right now, without experiencing choke? Svensk Ljud Ljus Produktion skrev: Hi We searched a lot in serveradmins-forum for the answer, witch is best for servers / gameservers?, and we did came to the conclusion that Xeon is better on handling this data.. but at that time we didnt look into dual-core P4´s. But I guess that its the same diff. between P4 - dualP4 as Xeon - dualXeon. We decided to bye a dual Xeon, and we all think that it was right decision, we are trying it out by increasing the load to see when it starts to choke.. but havent reached that yet. Good Luck ! Peter L. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] XEON or Opteron?
Hi, i'm about to order new machines for my game server hosting, but i can't decide between xeon and opteron i've tried a new dual quad-core xeon machine which could run 20 servers / 220 players with no big problems, but i also recently read that dual-core opterons give better performance per server than xeon id like to know if anyone here have hlds-benchmarked the two (dualcore xeon vs dualcore opteron in this case) and come up with any special results? /Jonathan ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] XEON or Opteron?
The new xeons / core2duo's are far superior to any AMD variety at the moment period! Hi, i'm about to order new machines for my game server hosting, but i can't decide between xeon and opteron i've tried a new dual quad-core xeon machine which could run 20 servers / 220 players with no big problems, but i also recently read that dual-core opterons give better performance per server than xeon id like to know if anyone here have hlds-benchmarked the two (dualcore xeon vs dualcore opteron in this case) and come up with any special results? /Jonathan ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Jon Roberts Technical Director AmmoBOX Networks (Ltd) w: www.ammobox.net e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] XEON or Opteron?
Yes indeed. And if you want to save some money, just buy Core 2 Duos, not the Xeon ones. E6400/E6700 processors are good choice for gameserver hosting. My E6700 @ 2.7GHz takes about ~3% load with one 500FPS/10Players matchserver so... -- Valtteri Jon Roberts (AmmOBOX) kirjoitti: The new xeons / core2duo's are far superior to any AMD variety at the moment period! Hi, i'm about to order new machines for my game server hosting, but i can't decide between xeon and opteron i've tried a new dual quad-core xeon machine which could run 20 servers / 220 players with no big problems, but i also recently read that dual-core opterons give better performance per server than xeon id like to know if anyone here have hlds-benchmarked the two (dualcore xeon vs dualcore opteron in this case) and come up with any special results? /Jonathan ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Jon Roberts Technical Director AmmoBOX Networks (Ltd) w: www.ammobox.net e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] XEON or Opteron?
Jonathan wrote: Hi, i'm about to order new machines for my game server hosting, but i can't decide between xeon and opteron i've tried a new dual quad-core xeon machine which could run 20 servers / 220 players with no big problems, but i also recently read that dual-core opterons give better performance per server than xeon id like to know if anyone here have hlds-benchmarked the two (dualcore xeon vs dualcore opteron in this case) and come up with any special results? /Jonathan ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux You might try the Core 2 Duos. I've heard very good things about them. Opterons... AMDs were never better than Intel for pure processing applications. C2Duos are very fast (I've seen a few servers running 300 players with 2 C2Ds) but it's pretty pricey comparative to Xeons which are now dropping in price and offer similar performance. Benchmarks I don't know about. It'd be interesting if there are any, though. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron
It rocks :] We have a dual xeon 2.4ghz and two dual opteron (240 and 246), gentoo all the way. (Btw, on opteron 246 and over you can use pc3200 ddr400 chips). For the dual xeon, debian was in the first place, and i'd say gentoo is far better (mean faster) than debian. There should be a benchmark of the librairies' calls made by hlds/srcds. It should help to select the best linux distro. Cu. grosnours GameOnline Game Servers Renting ADSL Provider http://www.gameonline.be [EMAIL PROTECTED] Melissa Carley wrote: What is Gentoo like for a server in regards to pingtimes and such? What linux distro would you guys say would be the best for performance for a server? On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:03:37 -0800 (PST), Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I have a few AMD64's running in 32 bit OS's and they still rock. ploc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes but finding a linux system that will support athlon 64 is the fun part - Original Message - From: Mike Kercher To: Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Im Planning to buy a new Server System, and cant decide wheather i should take opteron or intel. Server will be only used for gameservers, mainly cs. Os is gonna be Gentoo Stage 1. Anyone does have an Opteron Xeon Server, who could help me with the decision? Opteron 244 1800MHz FSB800 1MB Pentium Xeon 2800MHz 800MHz 1MB Im open for any recommandation you can provide ;) I dont have any preference regarding cpu company, i just would like to take the faster system. Regards, canu I can't speak for Opteron, but I know that an Athlon64 runs circles around my dual xeon 3.06Ghz desktop machine. Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux Rock of Rock's Hideout For help or support please visit the suport forums: http://www.rocks-hideout.com Support can also be found on AOL instant messanger at: FHMDeathSquad rockssupport RocksHideout -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron
Hello, Im Planning to buy a new Server System, and cant decide wheather i should take opteron or intel. Server will be only used for gameservers, mainly cs. Os is gonna be Gentoo Stage 1. Anyone does have an Opteron Xeon Server, who could help me with the decision? Opteron 244 1800MHz FSB800 1MB Pentium Xeon 2800MHz 800MHz 1MB Im open for any recommandation you can provide ;) I dont have any preference regarding cpu company, i just would like to take the faster system. Regards, canu ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Im Planning to buy a new Server System, and cant decide wheather i should take opteron or intel. Server will be only used for gameservers, mainly cs. Os is gonna be Gentoo Stage 1. Anyone does have an Opteron Xeon Server, who could help me with the decision? Opteron 244 1800MHz FSB800 1MB Pentium Xeon 2800MHz 800MHz 1MB Im open for any recommandation you can provide ;) I dont have any preference regarding cpu company, i just would like to take the faster system. Regards, canu I can't speak for Opteron, but I know that an Athlon64 runs circles around my dual xeon 3.06Ghz desktop machine. Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron
opteron all the way. I have both, opterons leave the xeons for dust Kingsley - Original Message - From: Mike Kercher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Im Planning to buy a new Server System, and cant decide wheather i should take opteron or intel. Server will be only used for gameservers, mainly cs. Os is gonna be Gentoo Stage 1. Anyone does have an Opteron Xeon Server, who could help me with the decision? Opteron 244 1800MHz FSB800 1MB Pentium Xeon 2800MHz 800MHz 1MB Im open for any recommandation you can provide ;) I dont have any preference regarding cpu company, i just would like to take the faster system. Regards, canu I can't speak for Opteron, but I know that an Athlon64 runs circles around my dual xeon 3.06Ghz desktop machine. Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron
The opteron alone is amazing, no questions asked in a real time environment. I myself would like to try an Athon 64 in a server, because as another person said, it ran laps around the xeons. Only downside is opterons might* be a tad hotter than xeons, but hey, they do more work! And if you go Dual Op.. Dew Opp, Dew Opp, Dew Opp! Shiggita shiggita shiggita BOOM! (where did that come from?). - Original Message - From: Kingsley Foreman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron opteron all the way. I have both, opterons leave the xeons for dust Kingsley - Original Message - From: Mike Kercher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Im Planning to buy a new Server System, and cant decide wheather i should take opteron or intel. Server will be only used for gameservers, mainly cs. Os is gonna be Gentoo Stage 1. Anyone does have an Opteron Xeon Server, who could help me with the decision? Opteron 244 1800MHz FSB800 1MB Pentium Xeon 2800MHz 800MHz 1MB Im open for any recommandation you can provide ;) I dont have any preference regarding cpu company, i just would like to take the faster system. Regards, canu I can't speak for Opteron, but I know that an Athlon64 runs circles around my dual xeon 3.06Ghz desktop machine. Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron
yes but finding a linux system that will support athlon 64 is the fun part - Original Message - From: Mike Kercher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Im Planning to buy a new Server System, and cant decide wheather i should take opteron or intel. Server will be only used for gameservers, mainly cs. Os is gonna be Gentoo Stage 1. Anyone does have an Opteron Xeon Server, who could help me with the decision? Opteron 244 1800MHz FSB800 1MB Pentium Xeon 2800MHz 800MHz 1MB Im open for any recommandation you can provide ;) I dont have any preference regarding cpu company, i just would like to take the faster system. Regards, canu I can't speak for Opteron, but I know that an Athlon64 runs circles around my dual xeon 3.06Ghz desktop machine. Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron
gentoo all the way :) Kingsley - Original Message - From: ploc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron yes but finding a linux system that will support athlon 64 is the fun part - Original Message - From: Mike Kercher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Im Planning to buy a new Server System, and cant decide wheather i should take opteron or intel. Server will be only used for gameservers, mainly cs. Os is gonna be Gentoo Stage 1. Anyone does have an Opteron Xeon Server, who could help me with the decision? Opteron 244 1800MHz FSB800 1MB Pentium Xeon 2800MHz 800MHz 1MB Im open for any recommandation you can provide ;) I dont have any preference regarding cpu company, i just would like to take the faster system. Regards, canu I can't speak for Opteron, but I know that an Athlon64 runs circles around my dual xeon 3.06Ghz desktop machine. Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron
ploc wrote: yes but finding a linux system that will support athlon 64 is the fun part - Original Message - From: Mike Kercher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Im Planning to buy a new Server System, and cant decide wheather i should take opteron or intel. Server will be only used for gameservers, mainly cs. Os is gonna be Gentoo Stage 1. Anyone does have an Opteron Xeon Server, who could help me with the decision? Opteron 244 1800MHz FSB800 1MB Pentium Xeon 2800MHz 800MHz 1MB Im open for any recommandation you can provide ;) I dont have any preference regarding cpu company, i just would like to take the faster system. Regards, canu I can't speak for Opteron, but I know that an Athlon64 runs circles around my dual xeon 3.06Ghz desktop machine. Mike CentOS has a 64bit version. I run CentOS or RHEL on all of my boxen. Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I have a few AMD64's running in 32 bit OS's and they still rock. ploc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes but finding a linux system that will support athlon 64 is the fun part - Original Message - From: Mike Kercher To: Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Im Planning to buy a new Server System, and cant decide wheather i should take opteron or intel. Server will be only used for gameservers, mainly cs. Os is gonna be Gentoo Stage 1. Anyone does have an Opteron Xeon Server, who could help me with the decision? Opteron 244 1800MHz FSB800 1MB Pentium Xeon 2800MHz 800MHz 1MB Im open for any recommandation you can provide ;) I dont have any preference regarding cpu company, i just would like to take the faster system. Regards, canu I can't speak for Opteron, but I know that an Athlon64 runs circles around my dual xeon 3.06Ghz desktop machine. Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux Rock of Rock's Hideout For help or support please visit the suport forums: http://www.rocks-hideout.com Support can also be found on AOL instant messanger at: FHMDeathSquad rockssupport RocksHideout -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron
athlon64=modified opteron. Nathan Marcus wrote: The opteron alone is amazing, no questions asked in a real time environment. I myself would like to try an Athon 64 in a server, because as another person said, it ran laps around the xeons. Only downside is opterons might* be a tad hotter than xeons, but hey, they do more work! And if you go Dual Op.. Dew Opp, Dew Opp, Dew Opp! Shiggita shiggita shiggita BOOM! (where did that come from?). - Original Message - From: Kingsley Foreman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron opteron all the way. I have both, opterons leave the xeons for dust Kingsley - Original Message - From: Mike Kercher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Xeon vs Opteron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Im Planning to buy a new Server System, and cant decide wheather i should take opteron or intel. Server will be only used for gameservers, mainly cs. Os is gonna be Gentoo Stage 1. Anyone does have an Opteron Xeon Server, who could help me with the decision? Opteron 244 1800MHz FSB800 1MB Pentium Xeon 2800MHz 800MHz 1MB Im open for any recommandation you can provide ;) I dont have any preference regarding cpu company, i just would like to take the faster system. Regards, canu I can't speak for Opteron, but I know that an Athlon64 runs circles around my dual xeon 3.06Ghz desktop machine. Mike ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux . -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
