Re: [hlds_linux] Your opinion
Eric (Deacon) wrote: And in fact there are cases where this can be considered an invasion. It just depends on the area you live in and what their intellectual property law states. It is the client that would be considered the injured party so the laws of his region are the ones observed, not yours. Heh, that's awesome. Admin_llama is criminal behavior. Watch out, Alfred, the media's going to be hounding you like crazy, demanding answers for your contribution to atrocities experienced by 14-year-olds everywhere. Or even worse, chickenmod. "I was turned into chicken! *looks around uneasily* Well, I got better..." It also takes a kinda ignorant client not to have certain setting in an ingame executable file. Really? Name one that does this. I have a friend. (yes, really, I do) I've recently introduced him to Half-Life. He loves the game. He is fairly smart, much better than your average user. So, I ask him to play some HLDM with me. He's never done this before, so he connects to my server. Now, he hadn't changed his name from 'Player'. Didn't change it for the whole game. The next time I see him at school, he asks me, "Dude, how do I change my name?". Happened to me, too, first time I played multi. I changed it realll quick. At least I never fell for the old "type in 'kill' to slay other people" newbie scam... If people screw up, go ahead. All that matters is if they learn from their mistake(s). --agenthh ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Your opinion -drop it-
->-Original Message- ->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric ->(Deacon) ->Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:18 PM ->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Your opinion -> -> ->> And in fact there are cases where this ->> can be considered an invasion. It just depends on the area you ->> live in and what their intellectual property law states. It is ->> the client that would be considered the injured party so the ->> laws of his region are the ones observed, not yours. -> ->Heh, that's awesome. Admin_llama is criminal behavior. Watch out, ->Alfred, the media's going to be hounding you like crazy, demanding ->answers for your contribution to atrocities experienced by 14-year-olds ->everywhere. -> Are we still arguing about this? Its simple. The admin has every right to do this w/ clients. Is it just? is it right? probably not. If the various clients don't like it, they can stop going to his server. Enough clients don't like it, then he will have an empty server. If not, then oh well. Also, other server admins also have every right to filter affected players out of their servers by one way or another. This isn't a complicated subject people. drop it. nuff said. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Your opinion
> > And in fact there are cases where this > > can be considered an invasion. It just depends on the area you > > live in and what their intellectual property law states. It is > > the client that would be considered the injured party so the > > laws of his region are the ones observed, not yours. > > Heh, that's awesome. Admin_llama is criminal behavior. Watch out, > Alfred, the media's going to be hounding you like crazy, demanding > answers for your contribution to atrocities experienced by 14-year-olds > everywhere. I wouldn't want to put the ethics of an attourney that would take this case on show... just something that sue happy citizens seem to default too when angry. Look at that dumb McDonalds case. > > It also takes a kinda ignorant client not to have certain > > setting in an ingame executable file. > > Really? Name one that does this. Me. Most of my clan. Most of the other clans I play with. Several of them multi-clan so they keep seperate configs for that. Name is definately one of the parameters we keep. Can't go play a [FOO] match when your flying ``BAR clan. [PEA]SoupGuy ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Your opinion
> And in fact there are cases where this > can be considered an invasion. It just depends on the area you > live in and what their intellectual property law states. It is > the client that would be considered the injured party so the > laws of his region are the ones observed, not yours. Heh, that's awesome. Admin_llama is criminal behavior. Watch out, Alfred, the media's going to be hounding you like crazy, demanding answers for your contribution to atrocities experienced by 14-year-olds everywhere. > It also takes a kinda ignorant client not to have certain > setting in an ingame executable file. Really? Name one that does this. -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Your opinion
> > This is wrong. At the very most, an admin should force foul worded names to > > be changed to "invalid name", but not an advert for his site. I know many > > players that have 3 letter names and they all are valid names. But forcing > > a name change to his url is wrong. > > What do you mean wrong? The admin is the owner of a private server. He > owns the bandwidth, the hardware, etc. Basically, he can do whatever he > wants within what is legal. I admit its sorta lame but still, who is > lamer, the player who can't change it back or him? But why should a player be forced to change anything other than an offensive name? The admin doesn't own the clients computer. Clients trust that they can log into a server that does not change their settings. And in fact there are cases where this can be considered an invasion. It just depends on the area you live in and what their intellectual property law states. It is the client that would be considered the injured party so the laws of his region are the ones observed, not yours. It also takes a kinda ignorant client not to have certain setting in an ingame executable file. [PEA]SoupGuy ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Your opinion
> On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Kevin J. Anderson wrote: > Point is it's going to cost all of us resources to deal with a > problem that one server creates. Welcome to the real world. :-/ -Mad ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Your opinion
I think he has the *right* to do it, and if people keep coming back to his servers, then its ok with the public. Survival of the fittest so to speak. I would fight fire w/ fire and either use adminmod to not allow players under that name in, or use the same thing he does and write a rule to change their names to "I advertise often" or something like that. No reason to think about this for all that long. Just adapt and move on. kev ->-Original Message- ->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt ->Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 12:19 PM ->To: hlds ->Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Your opinion -> -> -> ->> ->> This is wrong. At the very most, an admin should force foul ->worded names to ->> be changed to "invalid name", but not an advert for his site. ->I know many ->> players that have 3 letter names and they all are valid names. ->But forcing ->> a name change to his url is wrong. -> ->What do you mean wrong? The admin is the owner of a private server. He ->owns the bandwidth, the hardware, etc. Basically, he can do whatever he ->wants within what is legal. I admit its sorta lame but still, who is ->lamer, the player who can't change it back or him? -> -> ->-- ->Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -> ->___ ->To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list ->archives, please visit: ->http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
