Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-11 Thread Jani Tiira
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He's just pissed that the game got postponed :D

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 When you hear an American company
> refer to summer, it's silly to throw hemispheres and such into it.
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Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-11 Thread Eric (Deacon)

In a bold display of creativity, Ondřej Hošek wrote:

However, as I stated previously, this is only valid for the Northern
Hemisphere.


So?  Valve is in the northern hemisphere, as is all of the US, Canada,
Mexico, Europe, Russia, India, and almost all of Asia.  We go by the
northern hemisphere.  You're only south of it if you're in South
America, Australia, or South Africa.  When you hear an American company
refer to summer, it's silly to throw hemispheres and such into it.

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Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-11 Thread Ondřej Hošek

However, as I stated previously, this is only valid for the Northern
Hemisphere.

~~ Ondra

Eric (Deacon) wrote:

In a bold display of creativity, Ondřej Hošek wrote:

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2006/11/10/5918. I've tried
to analyze what "Summer 2007" may mean.


It means summer of 2007.  Generally between, say, June and August.

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Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-11 Thread Eric (Deacon)

In a bold display of creativity, Ondřej Hošek wrote:

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2006/11/10/5918. I've tried
to analyze what "Summer 2007" may mean.


It means summer of 2007.  Generally between, say, June and August.

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Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-11 Thread Ondřej Hošek

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2006/11/10/5918. I've tried
to analyze what "Summer 2007" may mean.

~~ Ondra

Jani Tiira wrote:

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Where did you get this information?

On 11/11/06, Ondřej Hošek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Heh, Valve sure *have* been up to something. They just announced
shifting the Ep2 package into the summer of 2007. This means the release
dates have changed from 31st March 2007 to one of the following two:

* 31st August 2007
* 29th February 2008

Why two dates? The first is "summer 2007" on the Northern Hemisphere,
the other is "summer 2007/08" on the Southern Hemisphere. Oh, and 2008
is a leap year, so they have one additional day to work on it.

There's quite some time until 2007-08-31, so they probably might
implement the whole multithreading magic by then. And hell, I'm not
talking about the "Southern Hemisphere summer" loophole which would
enable them to release on 2008-02-29 and claim it's still "summer that
began in 2007 down under".

Anyways, I guess they do have enough time.

~~ Ondra

P.S. The dates obviously expect that on the NH, Spring is Mar/Apr/May,
Summer is Jun/Jul/Aug, Autumn is Sep/Oct/Nov and Winter is Dec/Jan/Feb,
with a 6-month shift on the SH. Somebody's gonna have to write an
"assert()" for this, though.



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Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-11 Thread Jani Tiira
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Where did you get this information?

On 11/11/06, Ondřej Hošek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Heh, Valve sure *have* been up to something. They just announced
> shifting the Ep2 package into the summer of 2007. This means the release
> dates have changed from 31st March 2007 to one of the following two:
>
> * 31st August 2007
> * 29th February 2008
>
> Why two dates? The first is "summer 2007" on the Northern Hemisphere,
> the other is "summer 2007/08" on the Southern Hemisphere. Oh, and 2008
> is a leap year, so they have one additional day to work on it.
>
> There's quite some time until 2007-08-31, so they probably might
> implement the whole multithreading magic by then. And hell, I'm not
> talking about the "Southern Hemisphere summer" loophole which would
> enable them to release on 2008-02-29 and claim it's still "summer that
> began in 2007 down under".
>
> Anyways, I guess they do have enough time.
>
> ~~ Ondra
>
> P.S. The dates obviously expect that on the NH, Spring is Mar/Apr/May,
> Summer is Jun/Jul/Aug, Autumn is Sep/Oct/Nov and Winter is Dec/Jan/Feb,
> with a 6-month shift on the SH. Somebody's gonna have to write an
> "assert()" for this, though.
>
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-11 Thread Ondřej Hošek

Heh, Valve sure *have* been up to something. They just announced
shifting the Ep2 package into the summer of 2007. This means the release
dates have changed from 31st March 2007 to one of the following two:

* 31st August 2007
* 29th February 2008

Why two dates? The first is "summer 2007" on the Northern Hemisphere,
the other is "summer 2007/08" on the Southern Hemisphere. Oh, and 2008
is a leap year, so they have one additional day to work on it.

There's quite some time until 2007-08-31, so they probably might
implement the whole multithreading magic by then. And hell, I'm not
talking about the "Southern Hemisphere summer" loophole which would
enable them to release on 2008-02-29 and claim it's still "summer that
began in 2007 down under".

Anyways, I guess they do have enough time.

~~ Ondra

P.S. The dates obviously expect that on the NH, Spring is Mar/Apr/May,
Summer is Jun/Jul/Aug, Autumn is Sep/Oct/Nov and Winter is Dec/Jan/Feb,
with a 6-month shift on the SH. Somebody's gonna have to write an
"assert()" for this, though.

Jani Tiira wrote:

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So actually according to the arstechnica article this is not coming to Ep 2
and so it's not coming to Source engine universally like for eg. CS:S, DOD:S
etc.?
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Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-11 Thread Jani Tiira
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So actually according to the arstechnica article this is not coming to Ep 2
and so it's not coming to Source engine universally like for eg. CS:S, DOD:S
etc.?
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Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-10 Thread Jani Tiira
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Here's another article on the same subject. This info has been out there for
a while now. I think Gabe said in some interview that they (Valve) are
bringing multithreading to the Source engine at the same time/just before
the launch of Episode 2.

Anandtech's Article:
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=2868
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Re: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-06 Thread Kennycom
Tanks for the link Mark :)


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Subject: [hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.


>
> Full article at:
> http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/cpu/valve-multicore.ars
>
>
> From the article:
> -
> Deadlocks, livelocks, and race conditions, oh my!
>
> On the first day of November, a group of technology journalists were
> invited to a special press event held at Valve's headquarters in Bellevue,
> Washington. There, we were treated to an unveiling of the company's new
> programming strategy, which has been completely realigned around
> supporting
> multiple CPU cores. Valve is planning on more than just supporting them.
> It
> wants to make the absolute maximum use of the extra power to deliver more
> than just extra frames per second, but also a more immersive gaming
> experience.
> -
>
>
> Mark
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[hlds_linux] psssssst.... Valve's been up to something.

2006-11-06 Thread Mark Pulver


Full article at:
http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/cpu/valve-multicore.ars


From the article:
-
Deadlocks, livelocks, and race conditions, oh my!

On the first day of November, a group of technology journalists were
invited to a special press event held at Valve's headquarters in Bellevue,
Washington. There, we were treated to an unveiling of the company's new
programming strategy, which has been completely realigned around supporting
multiple CPU cores. Valve is planning on more than just supporting them. It
wants to make the absolute maximum use of the extra power to deliver more
than just extra frames per second, but also a more immersive gaming experience.
-


Mark


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