RE: [ot]RE: [hlds_linux] windows vs. linux admins
Oh come on, I see updates for my Linux boxes just as often as the Windows boxes... - Tyler [TASF]Overkill Schwend Semper facere bonum, an a amare odium, vita mors. --- Server operator of [LCGA]Telefragged: Counter-Strike: telefragged.lynchburg.edu:27015 http://schwend-t.web.lynchburg.edu http://gamephilez.us -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adam 'Starblazer' Romberg Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:20 PM To: Valve Linux HLDS Mailing List Subject: [ot]RE: [hlds_linux] windows vs. linux admins That or we really dont have to patch our machines every other day so we have time to complain about this stuff ;) Thanks -a- Adam 'Starblazer' Romberg Appleton: 920-738-9032 System Administrator ExtremePC LLC-=- http://www.extremepcgaming.net On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Tyler Overkill Schwend wrote: Waaah! You didn't put OT in the subject! WAAAH! I concur. Oops. And I topposted. And didn't trim. Sorry all you 9.6Kers ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
[ot]RE: [hlds_linux] windows vs. linux admins
That or we really dont have to patch our machines every other day so we have time to complain about this stuff ;) Thanks -a- Adam 'Starblazer' Romberg Appleton: 920-738-9032 System Administrator ExtremePC LLC-=- http://www.extremepcgaming.net On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Tyler Overkill Schwend wrote: Waaah! You didn't put OT in the subject! WAAAH! I concur. Oops. And I topposted. And didn't trim. Sorry all you 9.6Kers ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [ot]RE: [hlds_linux] windows vs. linux admins
In comparison to windows, linux is known for it's stability and dependability. I knew i could depend on linux for a speedy reply to my original post. Dave On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 21:35, James Clark wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 09:24:04PM -0400, Tyler Overkill Schwend wrote: Oh come on, I see updates for my Linux boxes just as often as the Windows boxes... but how often to those updates require a restart? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [ot]RE: [hlds_linux] windows vs. linux admins
Daniel Stroven wrote: Thats why an estimated 50% of all windows machines around the world got bitchsmacked the other day. 50% of all Windows machines are running WinXP? Wow... Ever hear of anti-virus for linux? lol Ever hear about how poor security on linux is on the news?, while they talk about some virus/worm/ddos that took place against win32 boxes. Would it make much sense to write a virus, trojan, or worm that affectes a tiny fraction of the computers in the world? Of course not. Are exploits discovered, written, and released all the time for both OS families? Of course. Win32 is a good generic OS for people who either A.)Don't know shit about computers. That's an insanely dumb statement. about computers alone could mean one of about 190340293582342 different things. Linux is actually fine here, too, as long as someone else sets it up for them. B.)Know enough to get by. To get by with what? A Caterpillar earth mover may not be the right tool for the job of planting a tomato plant in the garden. C.)Want to get hacked. Does anyone want to get hacked, really? Or are you just being facetious? D.)Want to update every other day. Security holes are being found in many Linux programs (and the OS itself) all the time, and if you're not patching your shit, you're going to be up a creek without a paddle. As a network admin, I fear an open, rooted linux box far more than some doofus planting a trojan in a Win32 box. E.)Love to reboot as often as possible. Is that really that big a deal? Or is your uptime stat similar to your forum post count and ficticious penis size, in that you think the larger it is, the more attractive you are to the opposite sex? Same sex? F.)Don't like penguins. Nonsensical, sir :P G.) Like to be able to deal with standardized environments which 90% of the rest of the world uses (doesn't make the standard perfect or even better, mind you). H.) Prefer not to have to re-train the entire staff, many of whom have a hard time creating a one-page Word document. I.) Prefer stock not to plummet. J.) Prefer to support clients and customers on the OS's they choose to run. K.) Have better things to do than be ub3r-l33t. Neither Win2k nor XP are champions of security. Neither is an unattended, unpatched, unhardened linux box (the equivalent of the vast majority of Win32 boxes out there). Hell, the ftp.gnu.org box, of all things, was rooted in March, and they not only didn't prevent it, but they didn't even KNOW about it and fix it till early this month. Most Win32 boxes are run by ordinary individuals, while most Linux boxes are run by IT/software pros and script kiddies. You can't expect a community of basic-level individuals to maintain the same standards--or even know how--that an IT veteran would. Is Linux perfect and *the* choice for all situations involving computational machines? No. Is any version of Windows? Of course not. If you want to start Yet Another OS Flame War, why don't you work a lit match down into your pants? -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [ot]RE: [hlds_linux] windows vs. linux admins
On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 09:24:04PM -0400, Tyler Overkill Schwend wrote: Oh come on, I see updates for my Linux boxes just as often as the Windows boxes... but how often to those updates require a restart? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [ot]RE: [hlds_linux] windows vs. linux admins
Daniel Stroven wrote: Sorry my email upset you so much lol, I didn't think it would get a rise out of anyone like that. Uh, if you think your email got a rise out of me, then you haven't been on enough lists ;) -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
