Re: [hlds_linux] Can SRCDS be set up on sun-sparc linux ?
On Wednesday 05 April 2006 03:55, Matt Judge wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have the oppertunity to buy several Sun-Microsystems Servers at a > > bargin price. One is has 2 or 4(depends on what i get) Ultra-Sparc IIi > > 450mhz 64-bit processors and 2gig of ram. > > Put them in the bin and save yourself money. Unless you are buying them > to learn Solaris, Sparc processors are a pile of junk. If you really > want an old school 64 bit, get yourself an Alpha, at least you can run > windows NT on it (if you are that way inclined). Personally, I run BSD > on mine. Age aside, I never heard that about sparc before. Thanks for the advice though. Think your all right, this idea just isn't ment to happen. _ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Can SRCDS be set up on sun-sparc linux ?
On Wednesday 05 April 2006 01:50, Andrew Forsberg wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 00:37 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > One is has 2 or 4(depends on what i get) Ultra-Sparc IIi 450mhz > > > 64-bit processors and 2gig of ram. > > > > I've run SUN machines with those processors. Sorry to say, but even if > > you could find 64bit Linux binaries for SUN arch, they wouldn't have the > > horse power to run a HL2 based server. > > This sounds right -- hlds/srcds seems to be very cpu heavy, and light on > pretty much every other part of the architecture. Maybe if you could get > one of those lovely new 8 core cpus, but again... there are no binaries > for Sparc, so it's all academic. Was thinking about that before crawling out of bed just now. Maybe I can buy a rack full of dual-8-core blade servers, and then sell in-game advertising to Mountain-Dew. But alas, I don't have that money, and we don't have sparc binaries :-( ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Can SRCDS be set up on sun-sparc linux ?
On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 08:55 +0100, Matt Judge wrote: > Sparc processors are a pile of junk. Trolls live on the other side of this newsgroup's bridge. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Can SRCDS be set up on sun-sparc linux ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the oppertunity to buy several Sun-Microsystems Servers at a bargin price. One is has 2 or 4(depends on what i get) Ultra-Sparc IIi 450mhz 64-bit processors and 2gig of ram. Put them in the bin and save yourself money. Unless you are buying them to learn Solaris, Sparc processors are a pile of junk. If you really want an old school 64 bit, get yourself an Alpha, at least you can run windows NT on it (if you are that way inclined). Personally, I run BSD on mine. Matt. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Can SRCDS be set up on sun-sparc linux ?
Just run it on centos. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Forsberg Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 12:50 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Can SRCDS be set up on sun-sparc linux ? On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 00:37 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > One is has 2 or 4(depends on what i get) Ultra-Sparc IIi 450mhz > > 64-bit processors and 2gig of ram. > I've run SUN machines with those processors. Sorry to say, but even if you > could find 64bit Linux binaries for SUN arch, they wouldn't have the horse > power to run a HL2 based server. This sounds right -- hlds/srcds seems to be very cpu heavy, and light on pretty much every other part of the architecture. Maybe if you could get one of those lovely new 8 core cpus, but again... there are no binaries for Sparc, so it's all academic. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Can SRCDS be set up on sun-sparc linux ?
On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 00:37 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > One is has 2 or 4(depends on what i get) Ultra-Sparc IIi 450mhz > > 64-bit processors and 2gig of ram. > I've run SUN machines with those processors. Sorry to say, but even if you > could find 64bit Linux binaries for SUN arch, they wouldn't have the horse > power to run a HL2 based server. This sounds right -- hlds/srcds seems to be very cpu heavy, and light on pretty much every other part of the architecture. Maybe if you could get one of those lovely new 8 core cpus, but again... there are no binaries for Sparc, so it's all academic. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Can SRCDS be set up on sun-sparc linux ?
> One is has 2 or 4(depends on what i get) Ultra-Sparc IIi 450mhz > 64-bit processors and 2gig of ram. I've run SUN machines with those processors. Sorry to say, but even if you could find 64bit Linux binaries for SUN arch, they wouldn't have the horse power to run a HL2 based server. > I also can get my hands on some older Sparc-Station 10/20 machines which > have 32-bit microSparcII processors. I think the highest processor on these models are 110mhz, even slower. Like others have said, there are no known HL1 or HL2 64bit builds for SUN arch. If there were, the UltraSparcs could most likely handle the load of HL1. Jeff Love Burgh Gaming ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Can SRCDS be set up on sun-sparc linux ?
Hi there > Thanks both for the detailed responses. I hate to pass up this deal, but if I > don't have a job for the server right now, justifying the cost is difficult. You're welcome, and that's exactly the problem many smaller players like myself have with platforms. A server based on the dual core Opteron CPU is in my opinion the best suited for hlds and srcds servers. You won't be able to take advantage of the 64 bit command set for the game, but the operating system and supporting apps will. The hl1 servers are now threaded, I'm sure something similar is coming soon for source servers. At any rate, both cores will get used well. > > I'm surpised that this program (SRCDS) is closed source. I'd noticed the > previous generation of HLDS was closed source, but I figured the new "Source > Dedicated Server" would be a very small subset of the SOURCE engine, and > therefore open. > > Is SRCDS written-by/owned/controlled by valve? Curious who controls it since > Valve obviously "doesn't support it"... Valve license their engine. They're a business, they need to make money. Like it or lump it. This list is part of their support network. > > I could probably hack my own server as a CS-mod out of the source-SDK but > thats WAY more work then i'm looking for tonight ;-) Lol... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Can SRCDS be set up on sun-sparc linux ?
For halflife 1 mods, not for halflife 2. Peterson was specifically requesting info regarding CS Source. There are no hl2 binaries for amd64 servers. I don't think the hl1 amd64 binaries have been updated at all since VAC2 was released for anything else either. Could be wrong -- had to reinstall everything not so long ago, so the hl1 binaries all have the same date. On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 20:00 -0700, Dan E wrote: > I thought there were 64 bit binaries for AMD, just not > VAC2 supported as of yet? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Can SRCDS be set up on sun-sparc linux ?
Andrew, Dan > More likely it'd be turned into an office doom server. ROFLOL :-) Thanks both for the detailed responses. I hate to pass up this deal, but if I don't have a job for the server right now, justifying the cost is difficult. I'm surpised that this program (SRCDS) is closed source. I'd noticed the previous generation of HLDS was closed source, but I figured the new "Source Dedicated Server" would be a very small subset of the SOURCE engine, and therefore open. Is SRCDS written-by/owned/controlled by valve? Curious who controls it since Valve obviously "doesn't support it"... I could probably hack my own server as a CS-mod out of the source-SDK but thats WAY more work then i'm looking for tonight ;-) Thanks all! ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Can SRCDS be set up on sun-sparc linux ?
I thought there were 64 bit binaries for AMD, just not VAC2 supported as of yet? --- Andrew Forsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > Lucky you -- sounds like a great deal. :) > > Unfortunately the CS: Source binaries are all for > the AMD/Intel chipset > platforms. There are binaries optimized for i486, > i686, and 32 bit amd. > There are no 64 bit binaries for Source. The game is > closed source too, > so you won't be able to recompile it for your > platform. > > I guess you could donate one of your many new boxes > to the folk at Valve > so they could at some stage make a Sparc build. But > seeing as a 64 bit > server binary for the AMD platform is either causing > a lot of > difficulty, or is very low on the priority list, I > seriously doubt > you'll see a Sparc build any time in the next few > years, if ever. More > likely it'd be turned into an office doom server. > :-) > > If you choose Sun Servers with intel or amd chips > you may be able to use > lxrun under Solaris to run CS Source: > http://www.sun.com/software/linux/compatibility/lxrun/ > > I don't think that will work on the Sparc platform > however. > > Cheers > Andrew > > > > On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 22:13 -0400, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have the oppertunity to buy several > Sun-Microsystems Servers at a bargin > > price. One is has 2 or 4(depends on what i get) > Ultra-Sparc IIi 450mhz 64-bit > > processors and 2gig of ram. > > > > I also can get my hands on some older > Sparc-Station 10/20 machines which have > > 32-bit microSparcII processors. > > > > My question is are there sparc binaries available, > or is the original source > > available for 'SRCDS' so I can build a > CounterStrike-Source server on > > sparc-linux machines? > > > > Also how much processor power does the Dedicated > Source Server actually need? > > And does it take advantage of multiple processors? > > > > I've done extensive searching and forum posting > and cant find an official or > > current answer to this. I tried using > Valve-Support knowlege-base and "ask a > > question" and they redirected me here. > > > > Thanks guys! > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or > view the list archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view > the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Can SRCDS be set up on sun-sparc linux ?
Hi there, Lucky you -- sounds like a great deal. :) Unfortunately the CS: Source binaries are all for the AMD/Intel chipset platforms. There are binaries optimized for i486, i686, and 32 bit amd. There are no 64 bit binaries for Source. The game is closed source too, so you won't be able to recompile it for your platform. I guess you could donate one of your many new boxes to the folk at Valve so they could at some stage make a Sparc build. But seeing as a 64 bit server binary for the AMD platform is either causing a lot of difficulty, or is very low on the priority list, I seriously doubt you'll see a Sparc build any time in the next few years, if ever. More likely it'd be turned into an office doom server. :-) If you choose Sun Servers with intel or amd chips you may be able to use lxrun under Solaris to run CS Source: http://www.sun.com/software/linux/compatibility/lxrun/ I don't think that will work on the Sparc platform however. Cheers Andrew On Tue, 2006-04-04 at 22:13 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have the oppertunity to buy several Sun-Microsystems Servers at a bargin > price. One is has 2 or 4(depends on what i get) Ultra-Sparc IIi 450mhz 64-bit > processors and 2gig of ram. > > I also can get my hands on some older Sparc-Station 10/20 machines which have > 32-bit microSparcII processors. > > My question is are there sparc binaries available, or is the original source > available for 'SRCDS' so I can build a CounterStrike-Source server on > sparc-linux machines? > > Also how much processor power does the Dedicated Source Server actually need? > And does it take advantage of multiple processors? > > I've done extensive searching and forum posting and cant find an official or > current answer to this. I tried using Valve-Support knowlege-base and "ask a > question" and they redirected me here. > > Thanks guys! > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Can SRCDS be set up on sun-sparc linux ?
I don't know about the binaries, but I do know that srcds will not take advantage of multiple processors. The only way to use separate CPU's would be to put server 1 on CPU 1 etc. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have the oppertunity to buy several > Sun-Microsystems Servers at a bargin > price. One is has 2 or 4(depends on what i get) > Ultra-Sparc IIi 450mhz 64-bit > processors and 2gig of ram. > > I also can get my hands on some older Sparc-Station > 10/20 machines which have > 32-bit microSparcII processors. > > My question is are there sparc binaries available, > or is the original source > available for 'SRCDS' so I can build a > CounterStrike-Source server on > sparc-linux machines? > > Also how much processor power does the Dedicated > Source Server actually need? > And does it take advantage of multiple processors? > > I've done extensive searching and forum posting and > cant find an official or > current answer to this. I tried using Valve-Support > knowlege-base and "ask a > question" and they redirected me here. > > Thanks guys! > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view > the list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
