RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

2006-04-18 Thread Scott Long
I do agree with you on the server side FPS problems. I have the same
problems that you do with server side FPS dropping into the low teens. As
all of you noticed from the TOP I posted previously, I am not having CPU or
RAM problems.

The main issue with the FPS drop on the server is that is affects the
clients and game play is noticeably worse. This normally happens at the
start of a round. I have tried the following to resolve the FPS issue:

1. Remove all plugins and reinstall SRCDS
2. Drop the server player count from 32 to 26 and then to 20

It seems as though no matter what happens, if you have a semi-busy server no
matter what the player count is, I am seeing the FPS issue when the server
reaches about 70% capacity on one SRCDS instance. I killed my second SRCDS
instance and tried running ONE server on a quad proc xeon box with 2 gigs of
ram and I still experienced the FPS drops.








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Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 12:23 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

Hi,

First: I'm talking about srcds_l

We are also registering problems.
The CPU usage grows up to 100% for some seconds, about 10fps on the
server and after that time everything continues normally.

Before the last update there were no problem.

Server details:
Fedora Core 1
Kernel 2.6.15 (700hz)
P4 2,8GHz
1 GB RAM

Srcds details:
Tickrate 50 or 66 (no difference)
With or without Mani (no difference)

- Marcel


JCHost.net - Support schrieb:
 Regarding performance, is anyone else getting terrible memory leaks?  They
 seem to effect my intel systems more so that the AMD, but if I leave them
 running for more than 3 or 4 days almost all my ram is gone.  After that a
 simple restart will free up 300-500 meg of ram or more sometimes.

 jc

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(AmmoBOX)
 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 12:04 PM
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 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

 Issue cat /proc/sys/kernel/HZ over SSH

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 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 5:54 PM
 Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update


 Well actually I'm wrong I found out we didn't' even compile a custom
 kernel
 on this server.  So I have no idea what speed its running at.

 :(

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 JC,

 What freq. is your kernel at?

 Regards,

 - Original Message -
 From: JCHost.net - Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:51 PM
 Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update


 I've had some performance issues lately as well.  I have a Dual Dual
core
 opteron using less than 10% of cpu and my clients are complaining that
 the
 server will not maintain tickrate(fps).  I have tried various settings
 and
 configs and I don't even know for sure if it's the server side that is
 giving the lower fps.  Some of my clients think that I need to compile a
 better kernel on my linux servers?  Could this be true?

 JC

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:39 AM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

 Greetings

 Well, since I updated my 32 Slot Server from Engine Version 29 to 35,
 the CPU usage is 20-30% higher, so that I had to reduce my the Slotcount
 to 20, to prevent lag and monsterpings.
 Unfortunaly I forgot to make an backup before updating, so it would be
 very nice if someone could tell me, where I can get older HLDS Updates.

 cheers
 SecurityFox

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Hi Guys,

Since the none compulsory update in March where some changes were made
to
 apparently decrease CPU usage we've been noticing degradation in server
 performance.

However unlike a lot of complaints on the mailing list / forums we
haven't
 really noticed our average CPU usage go up much - a couple of spikes
here
 and there but certainly none of this 'maxing out my server' business
that
 some people are encountering.

The performance drop after the non-compulsory update in March ended up
in
 us rolling back the update because bullet registry and warping was
really
 poor.  After rolling back the update everything (bar the in-game VAC
 secure
 icon on connecting to servers) was perfect again.  However after the
 compulsory

Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

2006-04-18 Thread Jonas Tärnström
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Tried disabling hyperthreading?
//JT
Scott Long wrote:

I do agree with you on the server side FPS problems. I have the same
problems that you do with server side FPS dropping into the low teens. As
all of you noticed from the TOP I posted previously, I am not having CPU or
RAM problems.

The main issue with the FPS drop on the server is that is affects the
clients and game play is noticeably worse. This normally happens at the
start of a round. I have tried the following to resolve the FPS issue:

1. Remove all plugins and reinstall SRCDS
2. Drop the server player count from 32 to 26 and then to 20

It seems as though no matter what happens, if you have a semi-busy server no
matter what the player count is, I am seeing the FPS issue when the server
reaches about 70% capacity on one SRCDS instance. I killed my second SRCDS
instance and tried running ONE server on a quad proc xeon box with 2 gigs of
ram and I still experienced the FPS drops.








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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcel
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 12:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

Hi,

First: I'm talking about srcds_l

We are also registering problems.
The CPU usage grows up to 100% for some seconds, about 10fps on the
server and after that time everything continues normally.

Before the last update there were no problem.

Server details:
Fedora Core 1
Kernel 2.6.15 (700hz)
P4 2,8GHz
1 GB RAM

Srcds details:
Tickrate 50 or 66 (no difference)
With or without Mani (no difference)

- Marcel


JCHost.net - Support schrieb:


Regarding performance, is anyone else getting terrible memory leaks?  They
seem to effect my intel systems more so that the AMD, but if I leave them
running for more than 3 or 4 days almost all my ram is gone.  After that a
simple restart will free up 300-500 meg of ram or more sometimes.

jc

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(AmmoBOX)


Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 12:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

Issue cat /proc/sys/kernel/HZ over SSH

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To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com[8]
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update




Well actually I'm wrong I found out we didn't' even compile a custom
kernel
on this server.  So I have no idea what speed its running at.

:(

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(AmmoBOX)
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 11:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

JC,

What freq. is your kernel at?

Regards,

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To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com[13]
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update




I've had some performance issues lately as well.  I have a Dual Dual


core


opteron using less than 10% of cpu and my clients are complaining that
the
server will not maintain tickrate(fps).  I have tried various settings
and
configs and I don't even know for sure if it's the server side that is
giving the lower fps.  Some of my clients think that I need to compile a
better kernel on my linux servers?  Could this be true?

JC

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

Greetings

Well, since I updated my 32 Slot Server from Engine Version 29 to 35,
the CPU usage is 20-30% higher, so that I had to reduce my the Slotcount
to 20, to prevent lag and monsterpings.
Unfortunaly I forgot to make an backup before updating, so it would be
very nice if someone could tell me, where I can get older HLDS Updates.

cheers
SecurityFox

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Hi Guys,

Since the none compulsory update in March where some changes were made


to


apparently decrease CPU usage we've been noticing degradation in server
performance.


However unlike a lot of complaints on the mailing list / forums we
haven't


really noticed our average CPU usage go up much - a couple of spikes


here


and there but certainly none of this 'maxing out my server' business


that


some people are encountering.


The performance drop after the non-compulsory update in March ended up


in


us rolling back the update because bullet registry and warping was


really


poor.  After rolling back the update everything (bar the in-game VAC
secure
icon on connecting to servers) was perfect again.  However after

Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

2006-04-15 Thread Gary

I don't see any problems on my equipment. Also, there are issues on
the windows side of the pond, ie: the cpu affinity problems with 1.6.

Personally, just shoot off alfred an email with your specifications/problems..

At 10:38 AM 4/15/2006, aXeR \(AmmoBOX\) wrote:

Since the none compulsory update in March where some changes were
made to apparently decrease CPU usage we've been noticing
degradation in server performance.

However unlike a lot of complaints on the mailing list / forums we
haven't really noticed our average CPU usage go up much - a couple
of spikes here and there but certainly none of this 'maxing out my
server' business that some people are encountering.

The performance drop after the non-compulsory update in March ended
up in us rolling back the update because bullet registry and warping
was really poor.  After rolling back the update everything (bar the
in-game VAC secure icon on connecting to servers) was perfect
again.  However after the compulsory update the other day we're
having the same problem again (although it doesn't seem quite as
bad) that's over a month since when the issue was first reported, I
really hoped that would have been sufficient time for Valve to fix
it but this doesn't seem to be the case.



G. Stanley
Engineering (AS36352)
Velocity Servers, Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

2006-04-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Greetings

Well, since I updated my 32 Slot Server from Engine Version 29 to 35,
the CPU usage is 20-30% higher, so that I had to reduce my the Slotcount
to 20, to prevent lag and monsterpings.
Unfortunaly I forgot to make an backup before updating, so it would be
very nice if someone could tell me, where I can get older HLDS Updates.

cheers
SecurityFox

aXeR (AmmoBOX) wrote:


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Hi Guys,

Since the none compulsory update in March where some changes were made to 
apparently decrease CPU usage we've been noticing degradation in server 
performance.

However unlike a lot of complaints on the mailing list / forums we haven't 
really noticed our average CPU usage go up much - a couple of spikes here and 
there but certainly none of this 'maxing out my server' business that some 
people are encountering.

The performance drop after the non-compulsory update in March ended up in us 
rolling back the update because bullet registry and warping was really poor.  
After rolling back the update everything (bar the in-game VAC secure icon on 
connecting to servers) was perfect again.  However after the compulsory update 
the other day we're having the same problem again (although it doesn't seem 
quite as bad) that's over a month since when the issue was first reported, I 
really hoped that would have been sufficient time for Valve to fix it but this 
doesn't seem to be the case.


From a good browse on the forums there has been plenty of discussion about this matter 
and quite a few people are in a position where they are having to jump ship to Windows 
which is a real shame.  What concerns me the most though is that there is very little 
discussion about it on the mailing list.  What does this mean, that people are noticing 
the issue or that they don't care?  My point is that issues like these are not going to 
get fixed unless enough people start making a fuss (and I don't mean fuss as in 
OMFG I HATE YOU VALVE!!!111 - etc)


I would be really interested to know how many others have picked up on these 
anomalies, especially on higher tickrate servers since the last compulsory / 
non-compulsory update.

Cheers,
-
Jon Roberts
Technical Director
AmmoBOX Networks (Ltd)
Web: www.ammobox.net
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

2006-04-15 Thread JCHost.net - Support
I've had some performance issues lately as well.  I have a Dual Dual core
opteron using less than 10% of cpu and my clients are complaining that the
server will not maintain tickrate(fps).  I have tried various settings and
configs and I don't even know for sure if it's the server side that is
giving the lower fps.  Some of my clients think that I need to compile a
better kernel on my linux servers?  Could this be true?

JC

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:39 AM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

Greetings

Well, since I updated my 32 Slot Server from Engine Version 29 to 35,
the CPU usage is 20-30% higher, so that I had to reduce my the Slotcount
to 20, to prevent lag and monsterpings.
Unfortunaly I forgot to make an backup before updating, so it would be
very nice if someone could tell me, where I can get older HLDS Updates.

cheers
SecurityFox

aXeR (AmmoBOX) wrote:

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Hi Guys,

Since the none compulsory update in March where some changes were made to
apparently decrease CPU usage we've been noticing degradation in server
performance.

However unlike a lot of complaints on the mailing list / forums we haven't
really noticed our average CPU usage go up much - a couple of spikes here
and there but certainly none of this 'maxing out my server' business that
some people are encountering.

The performance drop after the non-compulsory update in March ended up in
us rolling back the update because bullet registry and warping was really
poor.  After rolling back the update everything (bar the in-game VAC secure
icon on connecting to servers) was perfect again.  However after the
compulsory update the other day we're having the same problem again
(although it doesn't seem quite as bad) that's over a month since when the
issue was first reported, I really hoped that would have been sufficient
time for Valve to fix it but this doesn't seem to be the case.

From a good browse on the forums there has been plenty of discussion about
this matter and quite a few people are in a position where they are having
to jump ship to Windows which is a real shame.  What concerns me the most
though is that there is very little discussion about it on the mailing list.
What does this mean, that people are noticing the issue or that they don't
care?  My point is that issues like these are not going to get fixed unless
enough people start making a fuss (and I don't mean fuss as in OMFG I HATE
YOU VALVE!!!111 - etc)

I would be really interested to know how many others have picked up on
these anomalies, especially on higher tickrate servers since the last
compulsory / non-compulsory update.

Cheers,
-
Jon Roberts
Technical Director
AmmoBOX Networks (Ltd)
Web: www.ammobox.net
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

2006-04-15 Thread aXeR \(AmmoBOX\)

JC,

What freq. is your kernel at?

Regards,

- Original Message -
From: JCHost.net - Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update



I've had some performance issues lately as well.  I have a Dual Dual core
opteron using less than 10% of cpu and my clients are complaining that the
server will not maintain tickrate(fps).  I have tried various settings and
configs and I don't even know for sure if it's the server side that is
giving the lower fps.  Some of my clients think that I need to compile a
better kernel on my linux servers?  Could this be true?

JC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:39 AM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

Greetings

Well, since I updated my 32 Slot Server from Engine Version 29 to 35,
the CPU usage is 20-30% higher, so that I had to reduce my the Slotcount
to 20, to prevent lag and monsterpings.
Unfortunaly I forgot to make an backup before updating, so it would be
very nice if someone could tell me, where I can get older HLDS Updates.

cheers
SecurityFox

aXeR (AmmoBOX) wrote:


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Hi Guys,

Since the none compulsory update in March where some changes were made to

apparently decrease CPU usage we've been noticing degradation in server
performance.


However unlike a lot of complaints on the mailing list / forums we haven't

really noticed our average CPU usage go up much - a couple of spikes here
and there but certainly none of this 'maxing out my server' business that
some people are encountering.


The performance drop after the non-compulsory update in March ended up in

us rolling back the update because bullet registry and warping was really
poor.  After rolling back the update everything (bar the in-game VAC
secure
icon on connecting to servers) was perfect again.  However after the
compulsory update the other day we're having the same problem again
(although it doesn't seem quite as bad) that's over a month since when the
issue was first reported, I really hoped that would have been sufficient
time for Valve to fix it but this doesn't seem to be the case.



From a good browse on the forums there has been plenty of discussion
about

this matter and quite a few people are in a position where they are having
to jump ship to Windows which is a real shame.  What concerns me the most
though is that there is very little discussion about it on the mailing
list.
What does this mean, that people are noticing the issue or that they don't
care?  My point is that issues like these are not going to get fixed
unless
enough people start making a fuss (and I don't mean fuss as in OMFG I
HATE
YOU VALVE!!!111 - etc)


I would be really interested to know how many others have picked up on

these anomalies, especially on higher tickrate servers since the last
compulsory / non-compulsory update.


Cheers,
-
Jon Roberts
Technical Director
AmmoBOX Networks (Ltd)
Web: www.ammobox.net
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

2006-04-15 Thread JCHost.net - Support
1000hz

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Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 11:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

JC,

What freq. is your kernel at?

Regards,

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From: JCHost.net - Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update


 I've had some performance issues lately as well.  I have a Dual Dual core
 opteron using less than 10% of cpu and my clients are complaining that the
 server will not maintain tickrate(fps).  I have tried various settings and
 configs and I don't even know for sure if it's the server side that is
 giving the lower fps.  Some of my clients think that I need to compile a
 better kernel on my linux servers?  Could this be true?

 JC

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:39 AM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

 Greetings

 Well, since I updated my 32 Slot Server from Engine Version 29 to 35,
 the CPU usage is 20-30% higher, so that I had to reduce my the Slotcount
 to 20, to prevent lag and monsterpings.
 Unfortunaly I forgot to make an backup before updating, so it would be
 very nice if someone could tell me, where I can get older HLDS Updates.

 cheers
 SecurityFox

 aXeR (AmmoBOX) wrote:

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Hi Guys,

Since the none compulsory update in March where some changes were made to
 apparently decrease CPU usage we've been noticing degradation in server
 performance.

However unlike a lot of complaints on the mailing list / forums we haven't
 really noticed our average CPU usage go up much - a couple of spikes here
 and there but certainly none of this 'maxing out my server' business that
 some people are encountering.

The performance drop after the non-compulsory update in March ended up in
 us rolling back the update because bullet registry and warping was really
 poor.  After rolling back the update everything (bar the in-game VAC
 secure
 icon on connecting to servers) was perfect again.  However after the
 compulsory update the other day we're having the same problem again
 (although it doesn't seem quite as bad) that's over a month since when the
 issue was first reported, I really hoped that would have been sufficient
 time for Valve to fix it but this doesn't seem to be the case.

From a good browse on the forums there has been plenty of discussion
about
 this matter and quite a few people are in a position where they are having
 to jump ship to Windows which is a real shame.  What concerns me the most
 though is that there is very little discussion about it on the mailing
 list.
 What does this mean, that people are noticing the issue or that they don't
 care?  My point is that issues like these are not going to get fixed
 unless
 enough people start making a fuss (and I don't mean fuss as in OMFG I
 HATE
 YOU VALVE!!!111 - etc)

I would be really interested to know how many others have picked up on
 these anomalies, especially on higher tickrate servers since the last
 compulsory / non-compulsory update.

Cheers,
-
Jon Roberts
Technical Director
AmmoBOX Networks (Ltd)
Web: www.ammobox.net
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

2006-04-15 Thread JCHost.net - Support
Well actually I'm wrong I found out we didn't' even compile a custom kernel
on this server.  So I have no idea what speed its running at.

:(

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of aXeR (AmmoBOX)
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 11:00 AM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

JC,

What freq. is your kernel at?

Regards,

- Original Message -
From: JCHost.net - Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update


 I've had some performance issues lately as well.  I have a Dual Dual core
 opteron using less than 10% of cpu and my clients are complaining that the
 server will not maintain tickrate(fps).  I have tried various settings and
 configs and I don't even know for sure if it's the server side that is
 giving the lower fps.  Some of my clients think that I need to compile a
 better kernel on my linux servers?  Could this be true?

 JC

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:39 AM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

 Greetings

 Well, since I updated my 32 Slot Server from Engine Version 29 to 35,
 the CPU usage is 20-30% higher, so that I had to reduce my the Slotcount
 to 20, to prevent lag and monsterpings.
 Unfortunaly I forgot to make an backup before updating, so it would be
 very nice if someone could tell me, where I can get older HLDS Updates.

 cheers
 SecurityFox

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Hi Guys,

Since the none compulsory update in March where some changes were made to
 apparently decrease CPU usage we've been noticing degradation in server
 performance.

However unlike a lot of complaints on the mailing list / forums we haven't
 really noticed our average CPU usage go up much - a couple of spikes here
 and there but certainly none of this 'maxing out my server' business that
 some people are encountering.

The performance drop after the non-compulsory update in March ended up in
 us rolling back the update because bullet registry and warping was really
 poor.  After rolling back the update everything (bar the in-game VAC
 secure
 icon on connecting to servers) was perfect again.  However after the
 compulsory update the other day we're having the same problem again
 (although it doesn't seem quite as bad) that's over a month since when the
 issue was first reported, I really hoped that would have been sufficient
 time for Valve to fix it but this doesn't seem to be the case.

From a good browse on the forums there has been plenty of discussion
about
 this matter and quite a few people are in a position where they are having
 to jump ship to Windows which is a real shame.  What concerns me the most
 though is that there is very little discussion about it on the mailing
 list.
 What does this mean, that people are noticing the issue or that they don't
 care?  My point is that issues like these are not going to get fixed
 unless
 enough people start making a fuss (and I don't mean fuss as in OMFG I
 HATE
 YOU VALVE!!!111 - etc)

I would be really interested to know how many others have picked up on
 these anomalies, especially on higher tickrate servers since the last
 compulsory / non-compulsory update.

Cheers,
-
Jon Roberts
Technical Director
AmmoBOX Networks (Ltd)
Web: www.ammobox.net
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

2006-04-15 Thread aXeR \(AmmoBOX\)

Sounds fine to me ^^

I suspect your probably experiencing the same issues as us and as others
who've posted on the forums!

Regards

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Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 5:50 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update



1000hz

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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

JC,

What freq. is your kernel at?

Regards,

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To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update



I've had some performance issues lately as well.  I have a Dual Dual core
opteron using less than 10% of cpu and my clients are complaining that
the
server will not maintain tickrate(fps).  I have tried various settings
and
configs and I don't even know for sure if it's the server side that is
giving the lower fps.  Some of my clients think that I need to compile a
better kernel on my linux servers?  Could this be true?

JC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:39 AM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

Greetings

Well, since I updated my 32 Slot Server from Engine Version 29 to 35,
the CPU usage is 20-30% higher, so that I had to reduce my the Slotcount
to 20, to prevent lag and monsterpings.
Unfortunaly I forgot to make an backup before updating, so it would be
very nice if someone could tell me, where I can get older HLDS Updates.

cheers
SecurityFox

aXeR (AmmoBOX) wrote:


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--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Hi Guys,

Since the none compulsory update in March where some changes were made to

apparently decrease CPU usage we've been noticing degradation in server
performance.


However unlike a lot of complaints on the mailing list / forums we
haven't

really noticed our average CPU usage go up much - a couple of spikes here
and there but certainly none of this 'maxing out my server' business that
some people are encountering.


The performance drop after the non-compulsory update in March ended up in

us rolling back the update because bullet registry and warping was really
poor.  After rolling back the update everything (bar the in-game VAC
secure
icon on connecting to servers) was perfect again.  However after the
compulsory update the other day we're having the same problem again
(although it doesn't seem quite as bad) that's over a month since when
the
issue was first reported, I really hoped that would have been sufficient
time for Valve to fix it but this doesn't seem to be the case.



From a good browse on the forums there has been plenty of discussion
about

this matter and quite a few people are in a position where they are
having
to jump ship to Windows which is a real shame.  What concerns me the most
though is that there is very little discussion about it on the mailing
list.
What does this mean, that people are noticing the issue or that they
don't
care?  My point is that issues like these are not going to get fixed
unless
enough people start making a fuss (and I don't mean fuss as in OMFG I
HATE
YOU VALVE!!!111 - etc)


I would be really interested to know how many others have picked up on

these anomalies, especially on higher tickrate servers since the last
compulsory / non-compulsory update.


Cheers,
-
Jon Roberts
Technical Director
AmmoBOX Networks (Ltd)
Web: www.ammobox.net
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

2006-04-15 Thread aXeR \(AmmoBOX\)

Issue cat /proc/sys/kernel/HZ over SSH

- Original Message -
From: JCHost.net - Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update



Well actually I'm wrong I found out we didn't' even compile a custom
kernel
on this server.  So I have no idea what speed its running at.

:(

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of aXeR
(AmmoBOX)
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 11:00 AM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

JC,

What freq. is your kernel at?

Regards,

- Original Message -
From: JCHost.net - Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update



I've had some performance issues lately as well.  I have a Dual Dual core
opteron using less than 10% of cpu and my clients are complaining that
the
server will not maintain tickrate(fps).  I have tried various settings
and
configs and I don't even know for sure if it's the server side that is
giving the lower fps.  Some of my clients think that I need to compile a
better kernel on my linux servers?  Could this be true?

JC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:39 AM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

Greetings

Well, since I updated my 32 Slot Server from Engine Version 29 to 35,
the CPU usage is 20-30% higher, so that I had to reduce my the Slotcount
to 20, to prevent lag and monsterpings.
Unfortunaly I forgot to make an backup before updating, so it would be
very nice if someone could tell me, where I can get older HLDS Updates.

cheers
SecurityFox

aXeR (AmmoBOX) wrote:


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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Hi Guys,

Since the none compulsory update in March where some changes were made to

apparently decrease CPU usage we've been noticing degradation in server
performance.


However unlike a lot of complaints on the mailing list / forums we
haven't

really noticed our average CPU usage go up much - a couple of spikes here
and there but certainly none of this 'maxing out my server' business that
some people are encountering.


The performance drop after the non-compulsory update in March ended up in

us rolling back the update because bullet registry and warping was really
poor.  After rolling back the update everything (bar the in-game VAC
secure
icon on connecting to servers) was perfect again.  However after the
compulsory update the other day we're having the same problem again
(although it doesn't seem quite as bad) that's over a month since when
the
issue was first reported, I really hoped that would have been sufficient
time for Valve to fix it but this doesn't seem to be the case.



From a good browse on the forums there has been plenty of discussion
about

this matter and quite a few people are in a position where they are
having
to jump ship to Windows which is a real shame.  What concerns me the most
though is that there is very little discussion about it on the mailing
list.
What does this mean, that people are noticing the issue or that they
don't
care?  My point is that issues like these are not going to get fixed
unless
enough people start making a fuss (and I don't mean fuss as in OMFG I
HATE
YOU VALVE!!!111 - etc)


I would be really interested to know how many others have picked up on

these anomalies, especially on higher tickrate servers since the last
compulsory / non-compulsory update.


Cheers,
-
Jon Roberts
Technical Director
AmmoBOX Networks (Ltd)
Web: www.ammobox.net
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

2006-04-15 Thread Hans Vos

Hello Jon,

We are experiencing the same problem on one of our servers. This is a
single AMD Opteron 242 server with Gentoo as chosen operating system. We
were running a 1000 FPS server on this machine and the clan that was
using it told me that the performance was really bad since the update
you mentioned. At first I didn't believe them because there were no
changes made to the server and no difference in CPU and / or memory
usage. I decided to play a match myself on the server and I noticed it
immediately, the problem increased when more people joined the server.
There was warping in the server, grenades hanging in the air and
stuttering of player models. Sufficient to say that it was completely
unplayable.

Just like you we need an solutions a.s.a.p. most people are not very
open to such explanation are more likely to blame the hoster and / or
server. So also a request from us. VALVE please look into this problem,
it is causing much problems.

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RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

2006-04-15 Thread JCHost.net - Support
Regarding performance, is anyone else getting terrible memory leaks?  They
seem to effect my intel systems more so that the AMD, but if I leave them
running for more than 3 or 4 days almost all my ram is gone.  After that a
simple restart will free up 300-500 meg of ram or more sometimes.

jc

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Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 12:04 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

Issue cat /proc/sys/kernel/HZ over SSH

- Original Message -
From: JCHost.net - Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update


 Well actually I'm wrong I found out we didn't' even compile a custom
 kernel
 on this server.  So I have no idea what speed its running at.

 :(

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of aXeR
 (AmmoBOX)
 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 11:00 AM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

 JC,

 What freq. is your kernel at?

 Regards,

 - Original Message -
 From: JCHost.net - Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:51 PM
 Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update


 I've had some performance issues lately as well.  I have a Dual Dual core
 opteron using less than 10% of cpu and my clients are complaining that
 the
 server will not maintain tickrate(fps).  I have tried various settings
 and
 configs and I don't even know for sure if it's the server side that is
 giving the lower fps.  Some of my clients think that I need to compile a
 better kernel on my linux servers?  Could this be true?

 JC

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:39 AM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

 Greetings

 Well, since I updated my 32 Slot Server from Engine Version 29 to 35,
 the CPU usage is 20-30% higher, so that I had to reduce my the Slotcount
 to 20, to prevent lag and monsterpings.
 Unfortunaly I forgot to make an backup before updating, so it would be
 very nice if someone could tell me, where I can get older HLDS Updates.

 cheers
 SecurityFox

 aXeR (AmmoBOX) wrote:

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Hi Guys,

Since the none compulsory update in March where some changes were made to
 apparently decrease CPU usage we've been noticing degradation in server
 performance.

However unlike a lot of complaints on the mailing list / forums we
haven't
 really noticed our average CPU usage go up much - a couple of spikes here
 and there but certainly none of this 'maxing out my server' business that
 some people are encountering.

The performance drop after the non-compulsory update in March ended up in
 us rolling back the update because bullet registry and warping was really
 poor.  After rolling back the update everything (bar the in-game VAC
 secure
 icon on connecting to servers) was perfect again.  However after the
 compulsory update the other day we're having the same problem again
 (although it doesn't seem quite as bad) that's over a month since when
 the
 issue was first reported, I really hoped that would have been sufficient
 time for Valve to fix it but this doesn't seem to be the case.

From a good browse on the forums there has been plenty of discussion
about
 this matter and quite a few people are in a position where they are
 having
 to jump ship to Windows which is a real shame.  What concerns me the most
 though is that there is very little discussion about it on the mailing
 list.
 What does this mean, that people are noticing the issue or that they
 don't
 care?  My point is that issues like these are not going to get fixed
 unless
 enough people start making a fuss (and I don't mean fuss as in OMFG I
 HATE
 YOU VALVE!!!111 - etc)

I would be really interested to know how many others have picked up on
 these anomalies, especially on higher tickrate servers since the last
 compulsory / non-compulsory update.

Cheers,
-
Jon Roberts
Technical Director
AmmoBOX Networks (Ltd)
Web: www.ammobox.net
Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

2006-04-15 Thread Scott Long
I am not so sure that this is not abnormal. I have 2 Gigs of ram on my linux
box:

top - 12:33:12 up 3 days, 20:11,  1 user,  load average: 0.30, 0.27, 0.20
Tasks:  89 total,   2 running,  87 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu0  : 14.0% us,  0.7% sy,  0.0% ni, 85.0% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.3% si
Cpu1  :  3.6% us,  2.0% sy,  0.0% ni, 94.4% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Cpu2  :  3.3% us,  0.3% sy,  0.0% ni, 96.4% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Cpu3  :  7.3% us,  1.7% sy,  0.0% ni, 91.0% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
Mem:   2072832k total,  2056296k used,16536k free,   117668k buffers
Swap:  2031608k total,0k used,  2031608k free,   978232k cached

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
 3324 alphainf  16   0  397m 318m  31m R 22.9 15.7   1237:07 srcds_i686
 3315 alphainf  15   0  481m 402m  29m S  1.7 19.9 572:43.84 srcds_i686




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Support
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:40 AM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

Regarding performance, is anyone else getting terrible memory leaks?  They
seem to effect my intel systems more so that the AMD, but if I leave them
running for more than 3 or 4 days almost all my ram is gone.  After that a
simple restart will free up 300-500 meg of ram or more sometimes.

jc

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of aXeR (AmmoBOX)
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 12:04 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

Issue cat /proc/sys/kernel/HZ over SSH

- Original Message -
From: JCHost.net - Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 5:54 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update


 Well actually I'm wrong I found out we didn't' even compile a custom
 kernel
 on this server.  So I have no idea what speed its running at.

 :(

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of aXeR
 (AmmoBOX)
 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 11:00 AM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

 JC,

 What freq. is your kernel at?

 Regards,

 - Original Message -
 From: JCHost.net - Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:51 PM
 Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update


 I've had some performance issues lately as well.  I have a Dual Dual core
 opteron using less than 10% of cpu and my clients are complaining that
 the
 server will not maintain tickrate(fps).  I have tried various settings
 and
 configs and I don't even know for sure if it's the server side that is
 giving the lower fps.  Some of my clients think that I need to compile a
 better kernel on my linux servers?  Could this be true?

 JC

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:39 AM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

 Greetings

 Well, since I updated my 32 Slot Server from Engine Version 29 to 35,
 the CPU usage is 20-30% higher, so that I had to reduce my the Slotcount
 to 20, to prevent lag and monsterpings.
 Unfortunaly I forgot to make an backup before updating, so it would be
 very nice if someone could tell me, where I can get older HLDS Updates.

 cheers
 SecurityFox

 aXeR (AmmoBOX) wrote:

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Hi Guys,

Since the none compulsory update in March where some changes were made to
 apparently decrease CPU usage we've been noticing degradation in server
 performance.

However unlike a lot of complaints on the mailing list / forums we
haven't
 really noticed our average CPU usage go up much - a couple of spikes here
 and there but certainly none of this 'maxing out my server' business that
 some people are encountering.

The performance drop after the non-compulsory update in March ended up in
 us rolling back the update because bullet registry and warping was really
 poor.  After rolling back the update everything (bar the in-game VAC
 secure
 icon on connecting to servers) was perfect again.  However after the
 compulsory update the other day we're having the same problem again
 (although it doesn't seem quite as bad) that's over a month since when
 the
 issue was first reported, I really hoped that would have been sufficient
 time for Valve to fix it but this doesn't seem to be the case.

From a good browse on the forums there has been plenty of discussion
about
 this matter and quite a few people are in a position where they are
 having
 to jump ship to Windows which is a real

Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

2006-04-15 Thread Marcel
Hi,

First: I'm talking about srcds_l

We are also registering problems.
The CPU usage grows up to 100% for some seconds, about 10fps on the
server and after that time everything continues normally.

Before the last update there were no problem.

Server details:
Fedora Core 1
Kernel 2.6.15 (700hz)
P4 2,8GHz
1 GB RAM

Srcds details:
Tickrate 50 or 66 (no difference)
With or without Mani (no difference)

- Marcel


JCHost.net - Support schrieb:
 Regarding performance, is anyone else getting terrible memory leaks?  They
 seem to effect my intel systems more so that the AMD, but if I leave them
 running for more than 3 or 4 days almost all my ram is gone.  After that a
 simple restart will free up 300-500 meg of ram or more sometimes.

 jc

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of aXeR (AmmoBOX)
 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 12:04 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

 Issue cat /proc/sys/kernel/HZ over SSH

 - Original Message -
 From: JCHost.net - Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 5:54 PM
 Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update


 Well actually I'm wrong I found out we didn't' even compile a custom
 kernel
 on this server.  So I have no idea what speed its running at.

 :(

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of aXeR
 (AmmoBOX)
 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 11:00 AM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

 JC,

 What freq. is your kernel at?

 Regards,

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 From: JCHost.net - Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:51 PM
 Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update


 I've had some performance issues lately as well.  I have a Dual Dual core
 opteron using less than 10% of cpu and my clients are complaining that
 the
 server will not maintain tickrate(fps).  I have tried various settings
 and
 configs and I don't even know for sure if it's the server side that is
 giving the lower fps.  Some of my clients think that I need to compile a
 better kernel on my linux servers?  Could this be true?

 JC

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 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:39 AM
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 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Worse performance since last update

 Greetings

 Well, since I updated my 32 Slot Server from Engine Version 29 to 35,
 the CPU usage is 20-30% higher, so that I had to reduce my the Slotcount
 to 20, to prevent lag and monsterpings.
 Unfortunaly I forgot to make an backup before updating, so it would be
 very nice if someone could tell me, where I can get older HLDS Updates.

 cheers
 SecurityFox

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Hi Guys,

Since the none compulsory update in March where some changes were made to
 apparently decrease CPU usage we've been noticing degradation in server
 performance.

However unlike a lot of complaints on the mailing list / forums we
haven't
 really noticed our average CPU usage go up much - a couple of spikes here
 and there but certainly none of this 'maxing out my server' business that
 some people are encountering.

The performance drop after the non-compulsory update in March ended up in
 us rolling back the update because bullet registry and warping was really
 poor.  After rolling back the update everything (bar the in-game VAC
 secure
 icon on connecting to servers) was perfect again.  However after the
 compulsory update the other day we're having the same problem again
 (although it doesn't seem quite as bad) that's over a month since when
 the
 issue was first reported, I really hoped that would have been sufficient
 time for Valve to fix it but this doesn't seem to be the case.

From a good browse on the forums there has been plenty of discussion
about
 this matter and quite a few people are in a position where they are
 having
 to jump ship to Windows which is a real shame.  What concerns me the most
 though is that there is very little discussion about it on the mailing
 list.
 What does this mean, that people are noticing the issue or that they
 don't
 care?  My point is that issues like these are not going to get fixed
 unless
 enough people start making a fuss (and I don't mean fuss as in OMFG I
 HATE
 YOU VALVE!!!111 - etc)

I would be really interested to know how many others have picked up on
 these anomalies, especially on higher tickrate servers since the last
 compulsory / non-compulsory update.

Cheers,
-
Jon Roberts
Technical Director
AmmoBOX Networks (Ltd)
Web: www.ammobox.net
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