Re: [hlds_linux] Method To Increase Server Traffic
All of Cameron Munroe's suggestions have been implemented. There is now a 256Bit SSL certificate protecting the entire website. Server hosts can win prizes too now. Refer the most players and you win the prize. November's server prize is $250 USD. More info at: http://www.capturetheprize.com/server-op.php ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Method To Increase Server Traffic
On 17/10/2012 22:37, Craig H wrote: Good concept, bad way to implement it. The concept of raffles or lotterys for players is great, it can improve player retention by encouraging them to stick around and contribute and potentially raise money to be used for paying the operating costs of the server itself. The method you bring up to do so, however, seems sketchy and less useful. The practice works best at a smaller scale, where the people running the raffle are also the ones directly responsible for day-to-day operation of the server and leading/moderating the community that surrounds it. Many communities (A certain Battlefield 2142 group comes to mind) use this, raising money from donations to pay the monthly hosting cost and raffling away the rest to the players. Going through somebody else isn't necessary or desirable for these communities, because they benefit more from doing it all themselves. On Oct 17, 2012 9:24 AM, Erik-jan Riemers riem...@binkey.nl wrote: Yeah, simply put, if I can play on any server or register via any server it ceases to be of any advantage to any server. It's like the items you get from Valve for running the game. They have no advantage to one set of server owners over any other set. There are, as I've often said, only as many full servers as there are players to fill them and there's very little point fighting over these players with dumb initiatives. We've seen the good, bad and ugly of this. Most times, when empty servers fill, it's because Valve have done something (updates usually) to push up numbers. i.e to bring people back or new people in. But even their updates will sometimes simply move existing players around (e.g Players playing MvM instead of multiplayer) No one is sat at home thinking I'll play TF2 because I might win $50 - and the fact they can actually play any one of 31 games makes it moot even if they do. They probably already are playing one of those other games when your server is empty. For a server owner to tell players to register, he needs to have players to tell. This completely defeats the premise in the opening post that suggested our poor server owner Andrew Admin, has a bunch of empty servers. So, how does he tell this empty server, through teary eyes, to please all go and register to win a prize when these people don't exist? If he had lots of players to tell he wouldn't have any need of this idea in the first place. Thus we can see the truth must be somewhat wide of the pitch. There's more hand-waving in the terms and conditions than at a orchestral conducting competition. -- Dan ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Method To Increase Server Traffic
You wouldn't take them so they came here, to my servers. Its not that i dont take them on my servers but those who dont listen to everyone's pleas of mercy get vote banned (1 hour temporary) by all the other players. Pinion was able to pull off the fact that they could award the server owners when one of there players also one, is it possible for you? The items are great, but still the fact is now about getting a bunch of cats and hearding them to the sign in or it will never get off the floor, and yes they are cats. This system is actually already in place on my site. It was for players only, but now that server hosts dont have to pay, i can open it for server hosts too. The way it works is this: refer the most active players (4 points to be considered active) each month and win the prize. The count resets each month to keep it fair for everyone. Every user who signs up gets a unique registration url and this url when clicked creates a cookie that lasts for 1 month so even if the player doesnt sign up right away, the registration will still be credited to you. Also, nice comparison about the cats. :3 (these guys are pro's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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Well, I'm glad we could smash heads a little bit, I will come back criticizing once some changes have been made and maybe just maybe you will get some A++ ratings. Forum post so you reference, post, point to, state is a lie, or completely ignore. https://www.town-assembly.com/index.php?p=/discussion/42/capture-the-prize-a-scam On 10/16/2012 11:11 PM, PAL-18 wrote: You wouldn't take them so they came here, to my servers. Its not that i dont take them on my servers but those who dont listen to everyone's pleas of mercy get vote banned (1 hour temporary) by all the other players. Pinion was able to pull off the fact that they could award the server owners when one of there players also one, is it possible for you? The items are great, but still the fact is now about getting a bunch of cats and hearding them to the sign in or it will never get off the floor, and yes they are cats. This system is actually already in place on my site. It was for players only, but now that server hosts dont have to pay, i can open it for server hosts too. The way it works is this: refer the most active players (4 points to be considered active) each month and win the prize. The count resets each month to keep it fair for everyone. Every user who signs up gets a unique registration url and this url when clicked creates a cookie that lasts for 1 month so even if the player doesnt sign up right away, the registration will still be credited to you. Also, nice comparison about the cats. :3 (these guys are pro's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Method To Increase Server Traffic
Fuck you! Wysłane z iPhone'a Dnia 17 paź 2012 o godz. 08:17 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com napisał(a): Well, I'm glad we could smash heads a little bit, I will come back criticizing once some changes have been made and maybe just maybe you will get some A++ ratings. Forum post so you reference, post, point to, state is a lie, or completely ignore. https://www.town-assembly.com/index.php?p=/discussion/42/capture-the-prize-a-scam On 10/16/2012 11:11 PM, PAL-18 wrote: You wouldn't take them so they came here, to my servers. Its not that i dont take them on my servers but those who dont listen to everyone's pleas of mercy get vote banned (1 hour temporary) by all the other players. Pinion was able to pull off the fact that they could award the server owners when one of there players also one, is it possible for you? The items are great, but still the fact is now about getting a bunch of cats and hearding them to the sign in or it will never get off the floor, and yes they are cats. This system is actually already in place on my site. It was for players only, but now that server hosts dont have to pay, i can open it for server hosts too. The way it works is this: refer the most active players (4 points to be considered active) each month and win the prize. The count resets each month to keep it fair for everyone. Every user who signs up gets a unique registration url and this url when clicked creates a cookie that lasts for 1 month so even if the player doesnt sign up right away, the registration will still be credited to you. Also, nice comparison about the cats. :3 (these guys are pro's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Method To Increase Server Traffic
Doesn't this require a gamble license as you are providing a lottery service? Saint K. From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Marcin Lis [velt...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 October 2012 10:27 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Method To Increase Server Traffic I am pathetic! Wysłane z iPhone'a Dnia 17 paź 2012 o godz. 08:17 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com napisał(a): Well, I'm glad we could smash heads a little bit, I will come back criticizing once some changes have been made and maybe just maybe you will get some A++ ratings. Forum post so you reference, post, point to, state is a lie, or completely ignore. https://www.town-assembly.com/index.php?p=/discussion/42/capture-the-prize-a-scam On 10/16/2012 11:11 PM, PAL-18 wrote: You wouldn't take them so they came here, to my servers. Its not that i dont take them on my servers but those who dont listen to everyone's pleas of mercy get vote banned (1 hour temporary) by all the other players. Pinion was able to pull off the fact that they could award the server owners when one of there players also one, is it possible for you? The items are great, but still the fact is now about getting a bunch of cats and hearding them to the sign in or it will never get off the floor, and yes they are cats. This system is actually already in place on my site. It was for players only, but now that server hosts dont have to pay, i can open it for server hosts too. The way it works is this: refer the most active players (4 points to be considered active) each month and win the prize. The count resets each month to keep it fair for everyone. Every user who signs up gets a unique registration url and this url when clicked creates a cookie that lasts for 1 month so even if the player doesnt sign up right away, the registration will still be credited to you. Also, nice comparison about the cats. :3 (these guys are pro's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Method To Increase Server Traffic
Depends on which country you're in I suppose, but speaking for the netherlands I think you're right and setting this up without a licence would be illegal. On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net wrote: Doesn't this require a gamble license as you are providing a lottery service? Saint K. From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Marcin Lis [velt...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 October 2012 10:27 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Method To Increase Server Traffic I am pathetic! Wysłane z iPhone'a Dnia 17 paź 2012 o godz. 08:17 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com napisał(a): Well, I'm glad we could smash heads a little bit, I will come back criticizing once some changes have been made and maybe just maybe you will get some A++ ratings. Forum post so you reference, post, point to, state is a lie, or completely ignore. https://www.town-assembly.com/index.php?p=/discussion/42/capture-the-prize-a-scam On 10/16/2012 11:11 PM, PAL-18 wrote: You wouldn't take them so they came here, to my servers. Its not that i dont take them on my servers but those who dont listen to everyone's pleas of mercy get vote banned (1 hour temporary) by all the other players. Pinion was able to pull off the fact that they could award the server owners when one of there players also one, is it possible for you? The items are great, but still the fact is now about getting a bunch of cats and hearding them to the sign in or it will never get off the floor, and yes they are cats. This system is actually already in place on my site. It was for players only, but now that server hosts dont have to pay, i can open it for server hosts too. The way it works is this: refer the most active players (4 points to be considered active) each month and win the prize. The count resets each month to keep it fair for everyone. Every user who signs up gets a unique registration url and this url when clicked creates a cookie that lasts for 1 month so even if the player doesnt sign up right away, the registration will still be credited to you. Also, nice comparison about the cats. :3 (these guys are pro's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Idleness is not doing nothing. Idleness is being free to do anything. - Floyd Dell ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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Is the guy below just a spammer, or has he been here before ---Discussing--- stuff? If not can we get a admin to kick this guy off. On 10/17/2012 1:27 AM, Marcin Lis wrote: Fuck you! Wysłane z iPhone'a Dnia 17 paź 2012 o godz. 08:17 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com napisał(a): Well, I'm glad we could smash heads a little bit, I will come back criticizing once some changes have been made and maybe just maybe you will get some A++ ratings. Forum post so you reference, post, point to, state is a lie, or completely ignore. https://www.town-assembly.com/index.php?p=/discussion/42/capture-the-prize-a-scam On 10/16/2012 11:11 PM, PAL-18 wrote: You wouldn't take them so they came here, to my servers. Its not that i dont take them on my servers but those who dont listen to everyone's pleas of mercy get vote banned (1 hour temporary) by all the other players. Pinion was able to pull off the fact that they could award the server owners when one of there players also one, is it possible for you? The items are great, but still the fact is now about getting a bunch of cats and hearding them to the sign in or it will never get off the floor, and yes they are cats. This system is actually already in place on my site. It was for players only, but now that server hosts dont have to pay, i can open it for server hosts too. The way it works is this: refer the most active players (4 points to be considered active) each month and win the prize. The count resets each month to keep it fair for everyone. Every user who signs up gets a unique registration url and this url when clicked creates a cookie that lasts for 1 month so even if the player doesnt sign up right away, the registration will still be credited to you. Also, nice comparison about the cats. :3 (these guys are pro's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Method To Increase Server Traffic
This whole thing looks like a poorly thought out lottery where the primary purpose is making money off server owners. How are you going to use the quake protocol to identify players when Steam allows multiple people to have the same name? To me it looks like: here's my totally unproven plan to leech money off of clueless server owners. They buy 1 fps servers, so maybe they'll be dumb enough to help my lottery reach critical mass. I don't think I'm the only one who doesn't want to see discussions about this spammed here until it is shown that it actually gives more value than the money being put in. On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com wrote: Is the guy below just a spammer, or has he been here before ---Discussing--- stuff? If not can we get a admin to kick this guy off. On 10/17/2012 1:27 AM, Marcin Lis wrote: Fuck you! Wysłane z iPhone'a Dnia 17 paź 2012 o godz. 08:17 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com napisał(a): Well, I'm glad we could smash heads a little bit, I will come back criticizing once some changes have been made and maybe just maybe you will get some A++ ratings. Forum post so you reference, post, point to, state is a lie, or completely ignore. https://www.town-assembly.com/index.php?p=/discussion/42/capture-the-prize-a-scam On 10/16/2012 11:11 PM, PAL-18 wrote: You wouldn't take them so they came here, to my servers. Its not that i dont take them on my servers but those who dont listen to everyone's pleas of mercy get vote banned (1 hour temporary) by all the other players. Pinion was able to pull off the fact that they could award the server owners when one of there players also one, is it possible for you? The items are great, but still the fact is now about getting a bunch of cats and hearding them to the sign in or it will never get off the floor, and yes they are cats. This system is actually already in place on my site. It was for players only, but now that server hosts dont have to pay, i can open it for server hosts too. The way it works is this: refer the most active players (4 points to be considered active) each month and win the prize. The count resets each month to keep it fair for everyone. Every user who signs up gets a unique registration url and this url when clicked creates a cookie that lasts for 1 month so even if the player doesnt sign up right away, the registration will still be credited to you. Also, nice comparison about the cats. :3 (these guys are pro's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Method To Increase Server Traffic
That at least is a discussion. He/She just said Fuck you!, which isn't. So if you find this conversation annoying then ignore it or remove your self from the email list. On 10/17/2012 8:47 AM, Robert Paulson wrote: This whole thing looks like a poorly thought out lottery where the primary purpose is making money off server owners. How are you going to use the quake protocol to identify players when Steam allows multiple people to have the same name? To me it looks like: here's my totally unproven plan to leech money off of clueless server owners. They buy 1 fps servers, so maybe they'll be dumb enough to help my lottery reach critical mass. I don't think I'm the only one who doesn't want to see discussions about this spammed here until it is shown that it actually gives more value than the money being put in. On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com wrote: Is the guy below just a spammer, or has he been here before ---Discussing--- stuff? If not can we get a admin to kick this guy off. On 10/17/2012 1:27 AM, Marcin Lis wrote: Fuck you! Wysłane z iPhone'a Dnia 17 paź 2012 o godz. 08:17 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com napisał(a): Well, I'm glad we could smash heads a little bit, I will come back criticizing once some changes have been made and maybe just maybe you will get some A++ ratings. Forum post so you reference, post, point to, state is a lie, or completely ignore. https://www.town-assembly.com/index.php?p=/discussion/42/capture-the-prize-a-scam On 10/16/2012 11:11 PM, PAL-18 wrote: You wouldn't take them so they came here, to my servers. Its not that i dont take them on my servers but those who dont listen to everyone's pleas of mercy get vote banned (1 hour temporary) by all the other players. Pinion was able to pull off the fact that they could award the server owners when one of there players also one, is it possible for you? The items are great, but still the fact is now about getting a bunch of cats and hearding them to the sign in or it will never get off the floor, and yes they are cats. This system is actually already in place on my site. It was for players only, but now that server hosts dont have to pay, i can open it for server hosts too. The way it works is this: refer the most active players (4 points to be considered active) each month and win the prize. The count resets each month to keep it fair for everyone. Every user who signs up gets a unique registration url and this url when clicked creates a cookie that lasts for 1 month so even if the player doesnt sign up right away, the registration will still be credited to you. Also, nice comparison about the cats. :3 (these guys are pro's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Method To Increase Server Traffic
Pinion had the same issue. Because of gambling sort of speak a lot of the pot of gold was denied in certain country's. -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Rudy Bleeker Sent: woensdag 17 oktober 2012 16:50 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Method To Increase Server Traffic Depends on which country you're in I suppose, but speaking for the netherlands I think you're right and setting this up without a licence would be illegal. On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net wrote: Doesn't this require a gamble license as you are providing a lottery service? Saint K. From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Marcin Lis [velt...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 October 2012 10:27 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Method To Increase Server Traffic I am pathetic! Wysłane z iPhone'a Dnia 17 paź 2012 o godz. 08:17 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com napisał(a): Well, I'm glad we could smash heads a little bit, I will come back criticizing once some changes have been made and maybe just maybe you will get some A++ ratings. Forum post so you reference, post, point to, state is a lie, or completely ignore. https://www.town-assembly.com/index.php?p=/discussion/42/capture-the- prize-a-scam On 10/16/2012 11:11 PM, PAL-18 wrote: You wouldn't take them so they came here, to my servers. Its not that i dont take them on my servers but those who dont listen to everyone's pleas of mercy get vote banned (1 hour temporary) by all the other players. Pinion was able to pull off the fact that they could award the server owners when one of there players also one, is it possible for you? The items are great, but still the fact is now about getting a bunch of cats and hearding them to the sign in or it will never get off the floor, and yes they are cats. This system is actually already in place on my site. It was for players only, but now that server hosts dont have to pay, i can open it for server hosts too. The way it works is this: refer the most active players (4 points to be considered active) each month and win the prize. The count resets each month to keep it fair for everyone. Every user who signs up gets a unique registration url and this url when clicked creates a cookie that lasts for 1 month so even if the player doesnt sign up right away, the registration will still be credited to you. Also, nice comparison about the cats. :3 (these guys are pro's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Idleness is not doing nothing. Idleness is being free to do anything. - Floyd Dell ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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Good concept, bad way to implement it. The concept of raffles or lotterys for players is great, it can improve player retention by encouraging them to stick around and contribute and potentially raise money to be used for paying the operating costs of the server itself. The method you bring up to do so, however, seems sketchy and less useful. The practice works best at a smaller scale, where the people running the raffle are also the ones directly responsible for day-to-day operation of the server and leading/moderating the community that surrounds it. Many communities (A certain Battlefield 2142 group comes to mind) use this, raising money from donations to pay the monthly hosting cost and raffling away the rest to the players. Going through somebody else isn't necessary or desirable for these communities, because they benefit more from doing it all themselves. On Oct 17, 2012 9:24 AM, Erik-jan Riemers riem...@binkey.nl wrote: Pinion had the same issue. Because of gambling sort of speak a lot of the pot of gold was denied in certain country's. -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Rudy Bleeker Sent: woensdag 17 oktober 2012 16:50 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Method To Increase Server Traffic Depends on which country you're in I suppose, but speaking for the netherlands I think you're right and setting this up without a licence would be illegal. On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net wrote: Doesn't this require a gamble license as you are providing a lottery service? Saint K. From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Marcin Lis [velt...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 October 2012 10:27 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Method To Increase Server Traffic I am pathetic! Wysłane z iPhone'a Dnia 17 paź 2012 o godz. 08:17 Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com napisał(a): Well, I'm glad we could smash heads a little bit, I will come back criticizing once some changes have been made and maybe just maybe you will get some A++ ratings. Forum post so you reference, post, point to, state is a lie, or completely ignore. https://www.town-assembly.com/index.php?p=/discussion/42/capture-the- prize-a-scam On 10/16/2012 11:11 PM, PAL-18 wrote: You wouldn't take them so they came here, to my servers. Its not that i dont take them on my servers but those who dont listen to everyone's pleas of mercy get vote banned (1 hour temporary) by all the other players. Pinion was able to pull off the fact that they could award the server owners when one of there players also one, is it possible for you? The items are great, but still the fact is now about getting a bunch of cats and hearding them to the sign in or it will never get off the floor, and yes they are cats. This system is actually already in place on my site. It was for players only, but now that server hosts dont have to pay, i can open it for server hosts too. The way it works is this: refer the most active players (4 points to be considered active) each month and win the prize. The count resets each month to keep it fair for everyone. Every user who signs up gets a unique registration url and this url when clicked creates a cookie that lasts for 1 month so even if the player doesnt sign up right away, the registration will still be credited to you. Also, nice comparison about the cats. :3 (these guys are pro's! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Idleness is not doing nothing. Idleness is being free to do anything. - Floyd Dell ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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Capture The Prize is not a lottery. If i were charging players to join or win, then yes it would be a lottery. But im not, so its a contest. Yes servers can run their own contest, but they can be a pain to track and they have to provide the prizes themselves. With this contest server hosts just sign up and thats it. What sets this contest apart from a gaming community running its own contest is that server hosts can now win prizes too (by referring players). The only locations that cannot participate are Puerto Rico and the Province of Quebec (in Canada). As for the multiple name issue, the first matched name gets points. So if multiple players are using the same name, then only the first player will get points. Multiple players with the same name in the same server are low so this won't be an issue for most players. I've already changed all the documentation on the website with all the new changes. They have no yet been implemented yet, when they are i will announce on site. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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Rather than acting as a solution to almost any of the scenarios posed in the initial paragraph, the primary focus seems to me to be a way for the owner to make money and potentially fill their own servers should the service become popular enough. I'm not ruling out the possibility that the money is being put back in to the service (as described below), but that's not what I got out of my readthrough. Have you thought about setting up, say, a prize category for premium servers in order to help communities pay their bills incentivize paying for premium status? Furthermore, what happens to any money beyond whatever's required to break even? Would it be going back into the service for upgrades/better prizes/etc, or would you be keeping it? If the service both remains as is and the money is indeed pocketed, then I really only see it going down one of two main paths: 1. The service does quite well. You wind up with a lot of money each month, with a couple random players receiving a small portion of that. The culture of the servers registered become such that 1. *unregistered servers *will of course be unaffected, 2. *registered servers *will likely also see no change except as a last resort (eg. if no premium servers are available), and 3. *registered premium *servers will get a boost in greedy players who will likely hop to another premium server if they happen to be banned by any particular server. Idle players/servers may even show up, depending on the prize money and criteria. Heck, it happened with item drops. 2. The service fails, and nobody really gets anything out of it with the exception of whatever you receive each month from the few people who would continue to pay for their premium status and the small pool of potential prize winners. This would seem the more likely of the two. By the by, I'm assuming the update notification service you referred to is steamping.com - I don't really see the the connection between a free update notification service such as that and something like this? Anyone else have any thoughts on this? -Atreus ps. I reorganized some of this just before sending it. Although I believe I caught any issues with the flow or tone it may caused, if I missed anything, then I'd be glad to clarify. Either way, keep in mind that I certainly don't mean to come off as overly aggressive. On Oct 16, 2012 1:15 AM, PAL-18 pal...@ctpftw.com wrote: Hello Fellow Server Hosts, I've been operating my own game servers for the past 7 years for my clans and gaming communities and the same thing keeps happening at random times; traffic dies. This can generally be attributed to hundreds or even thousands of other servers popping up (TF2 popularity after hats were added), server ip changing, hostname changing, vacation season, etc. This can be murder for game servers and hosts are left with a difficult decision. Keep hosting and try to build back the player base (which can take a long time and even be impossible at times) or just shut down their server. I came up with an solution to this and i wanted to offer it to all the other server hosts. On the CS:Go mailing list, someone mentioned a steam update notification service for server operators and i figured if they were allowed to post theirs, then this post shouldn't be a problem. My solution is a contest that rewards players who play on specific servers (eg. yours) by giving them a chance to win 2 prizes each month. It's currently 2 prizes of $50 USD sent via paypal), but as the player and server base grows, this will be increased as well as the number of prizes. Currently 32 multiplayer games (including all of Valve's titles except DOTA) are supported as well as every single mod these games can run. For example, all Arma 2 (DayZ, etc.), the whole Battlefield series, most of the Call of Duty series, Minecraft, Killing Floor and much more. You do not need to install any plugins on your server. You just need to provide your Game Name/Mod Name, Server IP, Server Port and Query Port (if applicable). If you're interested in taking advantage of this service, then see Server Operator page that provides further information at http://www.capturetheprize.**com/server-op.phphttp://www.capturetheprize.com/server-op.php Thank you for your time. __**_ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds_linuxhttps://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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Hello Jeff, Thanks for the constructive idea's. I actually haven't thought about that. But you make some really good points. When 10 more premium servers are registered, the 3rd prize tier will go live. The prize will also be $50 - but as the contest grows this will increase. Players that have 75% of their points coming from premium servers will be eligible for this premium server prize. Regards, PAL-18 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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Go fuck yourself. This is valve srds mailing list not a fucking free space for ads. Fuck you and fuck next 10 generations of your family. Wysłane z iPhone'a Dnia 16 paź 2012 o godz. 16:44 PAL-18 pal...@ctpftw.com napisał(a): Hello Jeff, Thanks for the constructive idea's. I actually haven't thought about that. But you make some really good points. When 10 more premium servers are registered, the 3rd prize tier will go live. The prize will also be $50 - but as the contest grows this will increase. Players that have 75% of their points coming from premium servers will be eligible for this premium server prize. Regards, PAL-18 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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Okay, chill.. please. This is a mailing list and not a sexual predator. On 10/16/2012 7:43 PM, Marcin Lis wrote: Go fuck yourself. This is valve srds mailing list not a fucking free space for ads. Fuck you and fuck next 10 generations of your family. Wysłane z iPhone'a Dnia 16 paź 2012 o godz. 16:44 PAL-18 pal...@ctpftw.com napisał(a): Hello Jeff, Thanks for the constructive idea's. I actually haven't thought about that. But you make some really good points. When 10 more premium servers are registered, the 3rd prize tier will go live. The prize will also be $50 - but as the contest grows this will increase. Players that have 75% of their points coming from premium servers will be eligible for this premium server prize. Regards, PAL-18 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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So I am going to make some points for other server owners, admins, and players who are thinking about this. First off this really isn't going to benefit most of you unless you fork over the $5. Those servers get X2 points meaning that you would need someone on your server to place twice as long to get roughly the same points. It is just starting so don't think this is going to be an instant boost to your servers, rather this might do nothing for your servers at the moment as most players haven't even heard of this and they need to be signed up to make points. So in actuality this will help people whom pay and harm people who don't. Lets say you tell your small and humble community hey guys go sign up here they of course do as you are offering free stuff, not really, but once they do they look and realize why the hell am I playing on low beat small and humble community over here when I could play on Big Fancy Community over here who has X2 points. Thus the servers who fork over $5 get a benefit leaving your community dead. My only fix for this would be to sign up and not tell anyone, which isn't great either as no one really wins at that point. Too make it even more leaned towards Prem. players with 75% or more on a Prem. server get a 3rd prize. http://www.ds-ent.com/ is the Sales-Marketing Company that has only one current system, Capture the Prize. Capture The Prize is the one who really wins. Lets say they give out two $50 prizes, that is $100 in total. Well, simply 20 Prem. servers will pay for that. Ads, and anything else goes into their pockets. Meaning more and more you lose they win. Yes once they add another $50 it will be $50 more but it is covered by the 10 new Prem. Servers, so no loss to them. Idle Servers FTW! Yes, make an account and throw it on an idle server with Capture the Prize and You win, not the server that actually has players on it You can even do multiple accounts. :D If not the above it wouldn't be too hard to make a script joining a server, then going to the next server every 30 minutes making you look alive when not. Too many Supported games, this means that really not only are you competing against tf2, but AA3, Arma2, BF3, .. [more] ...and... [more] ...and... [more] Thus making it even less likely to win. You might as well go buy a lottery ticket. Valid by Valve? Yes this is a really serious question, what if Valve states this is not acceptable practice, then your server goes down too? More work you admins as you will now have to make sure that your server is also properly talking to Capture the Prize. Bad players here we come? Yes, I do think that you may get a sudden flood of players on your server, and many could be well, horrid. Sign up field, unsecured :O, this is horrid, most of the information they are asking can be easily used to hack into an account and take it over, let alone a hacker going in and destroying their database and walking off with all that information. (unconfirmed, so we aren't saying Capture the Prize is just a bunch of hackers.) 13 year olds won't be able to participate, well there goes half the gamers. 1) Solutions they present Every 3 hours if you are still playing, you must also reactivate your server token (by doing the server activation process again). if you do not, then the server will be deactivated and you will not gain any more points (until you activate the server again).(http://support.capturetheprize.com/index.php?r=faq/viewid=1) This seems great, but really you can build things to answer this as well. Long story short, this helps Prem. communities, is prone to hackers / cheaters, and really isn't that cheap. ##About me, I run (Gaming-Servers.net) So, I'm not an idiot, I run 18 Game servers and after looking into this, it might actually harm my servers. :\ Forum post so you reference, post, point to, state is a lie, or completely ignore. https://www.town-assembly.com/index.php?p=/discussion/42/capture-the-prize-a-scam On 10/16/2012 1:14 AM, PAL-18 wrote: Hello Fellow Server Hosts, I've been operating my own game servers for the past 7 years for my clans and gaming communities and the same thing keeps happening at random times; traffic dies. This can generally be attributed to hundreds or even thousands of other servers popping up (TF2 popularity after hats were added), server ip changing, hostname changing, vacation season, etc. This can be murder for game servers and hosts are left with a difficult decision. Keep hosting and try to build back the player base (which can take a long time and even be impossible at times) or just shut down their server. I came up with an solution to this and i wanted to offer it to all the other server hosts. On the CS:Go mailing list, someone mentioned a steam update notification service for server operators and i figured if they were allowed to post theirs, then this post shouldn't be a problem.
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I had tried to remain a bit more neutral and speculative than negative last night until I read through things in more depth. Having now done so, I can comfortably second the majority of what Cameron wrote here. Seems like bad news, and a money grab at that (ie. he conveniently forgot to answer the q's related to where the money goes :'v). The subject is pretty misleading, or, at the very least, quite an exaggeration. I also noticed that, apparently, if there aren't at least 100 unique players in a month, the prize doesn't scale down--it disppears. That's why there have been no prizes since that first month. And, as of just now, they're 2/3 through their current cycle with only 1/3 the players required for a prize of any sort to be given out. For what it's worth, judging by the servers pages, no servers have bought premium yet (aside from their auto-listed ones), nor are there any listed sponsors. So...as of now, it's basically just a great place to throw away $5/mo per server of yours. On Oct 16, 2012 9:02 PM, Cameron Munroe cmun...@cameronmunroe.com wrote: So I am going to make some points for other server owners, admins, and players who are thinking about this. First off this really isn't going to benefit most of you unless you fork over the $5. Those servers get X2 points meaning that you would need someone on your server to place twice as long to get roughly the same points. It is just starting so don't think this is going to be an instant boost to your servers, rather this might do nothing for your servers at the moment as most players haven't even heard of this and they need to be signed up to make points. So in actuality this will help people whom pay and harm people who don't. Lets say you tell your small and humble community hey guys go sign up here they of course do as you are offering free stuff, not really, but once they do they look and realize why the hell am I playing on low beat small and humble community over here when I could play on Big Fancy Community over here who has X2 points. Thus the servers who fork over $5 get a benefit leaving your community dead. My only fix for this would be to sign up and not tell anyone, which isn't great either as no one really wins at that point. Too make it even more leaned towards Prem. players with 75% or more on a Prem. server get a 3rd prize. http://www.ds-ent.com/ is the Sales-Marketing Company that has only one current system, Capture the Prize. Capture The Prize is the one who really wins. Lets say they give out two $50 prizes, that is $100 in total. Well, simply 20 Prem. servers will pay for that. Ads, and anything else goes into their pockets. Meaning more and more you lose they win. Yes once they add another $50 it will be $50 more but it is covered by the 10 new Prem. Servers, so no loss to them. Idle Servers FTW! Yes, make an account and throw it on an idle server with Capture the Prize and You win, not the server that actually has players on it You can even do multiple accounts. :D If not the above it wouldn't be too hard to make a script joining a server, then going to the next server every 30 minutes making you look alive when not. Too many Supported games, this means that really not only are you competing against tf2, but AA3, Arma2, BF3, .. [more] ...and... [more] ...and... [more] Thus making it even less likely to win. You might as well go buy a lottery ticket. Valid by Valve? Yes this is a really serious question, what if Valve states this is not acceptable practice, then your server goes down too? More work you admins as you will now have to make sure that your server is also properly talking to Capture the Prize. Bad players here we come? Yes, I do think that you may get a sudden flood of players on your server, and many could be well, horrid. Sign up field, unsecured :O, this is horrid, most of the information they are asking can be easily used to hack into an account and take it over, let alone a hacker going in and destroying their database and walking off with all that information. (unconfirmed, so we aren't saying Capture the Prize is just a bunch of hackers.) 13 year olds won't be able to participate, well there goes half the gamers. 1) Solutions they present Every 3 hours if you are still playing, you must also reactivate your server token (by doing the server activation process again). if you do not, then the server will be deactivated and you will not gain any more points (until you activate the server again).( http://support.**capturetheprize.com/index.php?**r=faq/viewid=1http://support.capturetheprize.com/index.php?r=faq/viewid=1 ) This seems great, but really you can build things to answer this as well. Long story short, this helps Prem. communities, is prone to hackers / cheaters, and really isn't that cheap. ##About me, I run (Gaming-Servers.net) So, I'm not an idiot, I run 18 Game servers and after looking into this, it might
Re: [hlds_linux] Method To Increase Server Traffic
I'll address all your valid points: The Premium/Standard server packages are not set in stone. I'll rework them to make it more fair. Once a larger player/server base has joined, i'll increase the prize amount and add more prizes. As for the idlers cheating. This has been alleviated via a 3 hour expiration. Every 3 hours you must refresh your server activation or else it expires and you dont gain anymore points. Money earned through premium servers and advertisements will be put back into the contest in the form of better prizes and more prizes. But i have to at least cover my expenses and make a living. So it might take a little while to get to that point, but eventually it will happen. The issue about the too many games. Again, the more players and servers there are, the more prizes will be available. Also, its not like a normal lottery where everyone has the same odds. The more points you have, the higher your odds of winning. Plenty of gaming communities have been running contests for years and Valve has never cracked down on them. Why would they start now? You dont have to worry about your server talking to our server. We're using the same query used by sites like Game-Monitor, GameTracker, HLSW, HLStatsX, etc. The registration form and support website will be getting an SSL certificate as soon as possible. But do you realize that your city/state/country information is fully visible to anyone who looks up your IP. For legal reasons, those under 13 cannot join the contest. I would allow it if i could, but its illegal. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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It's my priority for this contest to be as fair to the players and servers as possible (within reason). What do you think about the following change to the Premium/Standard packages: The $5 premium fee will be removed. All servers start out as a standard server (+1 point). When a server refers 50 players (who've activated their account and provided steamid), that server automatically get's upgraded to premium and stays premium indefinitely. Like? Don't Like? Have a suggestion? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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I'll respond to what I can, as I can't respond to things that have not been set in stone. :) As for the idlers cheating. This has been alleviated via a 3 hour expiration. Every 3 hours you must refresh your server activation or else it expires and you don't gain anymore points. Then you will be having issues where players are kicked from the que every 3 hours, which isn't bad. Though this may partially fix the issue with idlers, someone like me can right a script to about anything and auto log back into that system. Might want to add a re-captcha. Money earned through premium servers and advertisements will be put back into the contest in the form of better prizes and more prizes. But i have to at least cover my expenses and make a living. So it might take a little while to get to that point, but eventually it will happen. We aren't stating that some of it can't get be used to further the growth of your company, rather we are stating to increase the prizes once you have the ability too. The issue about the too many games. Again, the more players and servers there are, the more prizes will be available. Also, its not like a normal lottery where everyone has the same odds. The more points you have, the higher your odds of winning. So what I am stating here is that I could make many accounts and Idle therefore getting me weapons, and I high chance to win. Plenty of gaming communities have been running contests for years and Valve has never cracked down on them. Why would they start now? This isn't like a community run thing, this is a prize for anyone hosting your token. I can compare it to pinion's setup, but rather have you checked with Valve, though I due admit they are elusive. The registration form and support website will be getting an SSL certificate as soon as possible. But do you realize that your city/state/country information is fully visible to anyone who looks up your IP. Yes, but it isn't exact. This is rather broad and is more of point of yeah it is close to here, and not your house address. For legal reasons, those under 13 cannot join the contest. I would allow it if i could, but its illegal. Yes, but sadly the fact is that they are a base of players on game servers now. In my opinion they are probably 25% of the players. Forum post so you reference, post, point to, state is a lie, or completely ignore. https://www.town-assembly.com/index.php?p=/discussion/42/capture-the-prize-a-scam On 10/16/2012 9:58 PM, PAL-18 wrote: I'll address all your valid points: The Premium/Standard server packages are not set in stone. I'll rework them to make it more fair. Once a larger player/server base has joined, i'll increase the prize amount and add more prizes. As for the idlers cheating. This has been alleviated via a 3 hour expiration. Every 3 hours you must refresh your server activation or else it expires and you dont gain anymore points. Money earned through premium servers and advertisements will be put back into the contest in the form of better prizes and more prizes. But i have to at least cover my expenses and make a living. So it might take a little while to get to that point, but eventually it will happen. The issue about the too many games. Again, the more players and servers there are, the more prizes will be available. Also, its not like a normal lottery where everyone has the same odds. The more points you have, the higher your odds of winning. Plenty of gaming communities have been running contests for years and Valve has never cracked down on them. Why would they start now? You dont have to worry about your server talking to our server. We're using the same query used by sites like Game-Monitor, GameTracker, HLSW, HLStatsX, etc. The registration form and support website will be getting an SSL certificate as soon as possible. But do you realize that your city/state/country information is fully visible to anyone who looks up your IP. For legal reasons, those under 13 cannot join the contest. I would allow it if i could, but its illegal. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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Already have a captcha in place for server activation (Google Recaptcha). It was always my plan to have kick ass prizes. In fact the very first prize i launched with was $500 (for each prize), but only 6 people played and it wasnt feasible for a prize that big for 6 people so i lowered it to $50 for each winner. But there will be better prizes, mark my word. And not just cash, i plan on doing computer hardware (high end video card), etc. As for the idle issue. Yes there are issues but I have some hidden things in place to make it harder to cheat. Most of the players under 13 are the bane of server operators. Aside from having high pitch whiny voices, they usually break the most rules (as least from what ive seen on my Garrys Mod Servers). So from a server admin perspective, its a good thing they aren't allowed to participate. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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Oh and i made a mistake a few replies ago. It's not a lottery. It's a contest because contestants dont have to buy entry into the contest. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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Most of the players under 13 are the bane of server operators. Aside from having high pitch whiny voices, they usually break the most rules (as least from what ive seen on my Garrys Mod Servers). So from a server admin perspective, its a good thing they aren't allowed to participate. You wouldn't take them so they came here, to my servers. It was always my plan to have kick ass prizes. In fact the very first prize i launched with was $500 (for each prize), but only 6 people played and it wasnt feasible for a prize that big for 6 people so i lowered it to $50 for each winner. But there will be better prizes, mark my word. And not just cash, i plan on doing computer hardware (high end video card), etc. Pinion was able to pull off the fact that they could award the server owners when one of there players also one, is it possible for you? The items are great, but still the fact is now about getting a bunch of cats and hearding them to the sign in or it will never get off the floor, and yes they are cats. Forum post so you reference, post, point to, state is a lie, or completely ignore. https://www.town-assembly.com/index.php?p=/discussion/42/capture-the-prize-a-scam On 10/16/2012 10:36 PM, PAL-18 wrote: Already have a captcha in place for server activation (Google Recaptcha). It was always my plan to have kick ass prizes. In fact the very first prize i launched with was $500 (for each prize), but only 6 people played and it wasnt feasible for a prize that big for 6 people so i lowered it to $50 for each winner. But there will be better prizes, mark my word. And not just cash, i plan on doing computer hardware (high end video card), etc. As for the idle issue. Yes there are issues but I have some hidden things in place to make it harder to cheat. Most of the players under 13 are the bane of server operators. Aside from having high pitch whiny voices, they usually break the most rules (as least from what ive seen on my Garrys Mod Servers). So from a server admin perspective, its a good thing they aren't allowed to participate. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
