Re: [hlds_linux] Recording a DEMO in a Cheaters Counter-strike

2002-07-22 Thread Steve Cody

That was exactly what I wanted to do.  Send it or be banned.  If they aren't
cheating, then hopefully, it'll be clear in the demo.  If they are cheating,
hopefully, it will be VERY clear.  If it's not very obvious that they are
cheating, then they won't get banned.

I'm hoping that I can see the actual wall hack, or even some cheat menus, or
something like that.

Steve

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 Hehe,
 Okay, so i think its usefull
 Regards,
  Omer Cohen
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  Easy, send it or be banned...
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Omer Cohen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: den 22 juli 2002 15:52
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  I dont think you'll see the wallhack itself but im pretty sure you'll
see
  the menus and that stuff... But how will you make them send it ?
Regards,
   Omer Cohen
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  From: Steve Cody [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 2:12 PM
  Subject: [hlds_linux] Recording a DEMO in a Cheaters Counter-strike
 
 
   I have an idea I was thinking about trying.  I know I can execute
   commands in a players session by using the admin_execclient command.
   For people I suspect of cheating, I would like to initiate a record
   command in their console and stop it later.  Then have them send me
   the demo.  (If I can
  get
   them to do it).
  
   The question is..
  
   Will a demo recorded on a cheaters machine while they are cheating
   show
  any
   of the cheat commands they use, like to initiate cheating, or will it
   actually show their wall hacking view, etc?
  
   If so, I will require they send the demo to prove they are not guilty.
   If they don't send it, then they will be banned.  This doesn't happen
   often, but I have people that I have really suspected of wall hacking,
   and I'd
  like
   to see proof
  
   Any comments on this?
  
   Thanks,
   Steve
   www.KodiaKIslandCS.com
  
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Re: [hlds_linux] Recording a DEMO in a Cheaters Counter-strike

2002-07-22 Thread Rob Sanders

Steve Cody wrote:
   This doesn't happen often,
 but I have people that I have really suspected of wall hacking, and I'd like
 to see proof

 Any comments on this?


I would take the demo on your machine while spectating.  Exit the game
and install a wallhack on your box.  Now when you watch the demo, you
will see it as if he was cheating.  You wont be able to have him record
the cheats, but if you record him then install the cheats it should
become ovious if they are indeed cheating.  Just make sure you remove
the cheats before connecting to a server again, just in case ;)  Also, a
good player (like myself :)  ) doesnt need a wallhack to shoot people
behind objects.  Alot of factors like pure luck and sound play a huge
part, so make sure.  I will shoot boxes commonly camped behind as i
aproach and listen for the sound of a hit.  That move gets me called a
cheater all the time, but it also detects a camper quite often.
Usually, they will track the person exactly behind the wall, and thats
almost impossible to do exactly with sound. Sound gives you a damn good
idea, but noones perfect.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Recording a DEMO in a Cheaters Counter-strike

2002-07-22 Thread Rob Sanders

Steve Cody wrote
 I'm hoping that I can see the actual wall hack, or even some cheat menus, or
 something like that.


Sorry steve, you wont see the wallhack, and alot dont even use a menu
but key binds.
Not to mention the problems your gonna run into getting people to send
the right demo's, or even understand what your talking about.

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RE: [hlds_linux] Recording a DEMO in a Cheaters Counter-strike

2002-07-22 Thread Bossaller, John

admin_execclient client record
somedemoname;wait;wait;wait;wait;wait;wait;wait;wait;wait;wait;admin_psay
client We are currently conducting a test.  Thank you.


Execute that, and the first thing you should see in his demo, is your name,
as an admin_psay to the client, saying whatever phrase you want in there.
That way you can easily tell if the demo was legit.  Also, I'd wait a couple
of seconds, and while it's recording, do an: admin_execclient client say
thetime if you have a time plugin, as that'll also be useful while watching
the demo.  :)

I've done similar things with screenshots, as screenshots will show
wallhacks.  I've sent people a message, that said You are being banned,
pending the results of the screenshot that was just taken on your machine.
E-mail the screenshot to me, and if I determine that you are not cheating,
you'll be unbanned.  Thank you.

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From: Rob Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: July 22, 2002 10:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Recording a DEMO in a Cheaters Counter-strike


Steve Cody wrote
 I'm hoping that I can see the actual wall hack, or even some cheat menus,
or
 something like that.


Sorry steve, you wont see the wallhack, and alot dont even use a menu
but key binds.
Not to mention the problems your gonna run into getting people to send
the right demo's, or even understand what your talking about.

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RE: [hlds_linux] Recording a DEMO in a Cheaters Counter-strike

2002-07-22 Thread Bob

The demo wont show ANY of the cheats functions or menus(ogc style).
Trust me I tried it and was amazed nothing showed up.

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Sent: 22 July 2002 13:13
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Subject: [hlds_linux] Recording a DEMO in a Cheaters Counter-strike


I have an idea I was thinking about trying.  I know I can execute
commands in a players session by using the admin_execclient command.
For people I suspect of cheating, I would like to initiate a record
command in their console and stop it later.  Then have them send me the
demo.  (If I can get them to do it).

The question is..

Will a demo recorded on a cheaters machine while they are cheating show
any of the cheat commands they use, like to initiate cheating, or will
it actually show their wall hacking view, etc?

If so, I will require they send the demo to prove they are not guilty.
If they don't send it, then they will be banned.  This doesn't happen
often, but I have people that I have really suspected of wall hacking,
and I'd like to see proof

Any comments on this?

Thanks,
Steve
www.KodiaKIslandCS.com

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