Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP

2009-09-05 Thread Daniel Nilsson
So autoupdate works again?

Eric Greer skrev:
> just add -autoupdate to the command line at reboot the server
> Eric
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Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP

2009-09-04 Thread Oliver Salzburg
Dave Williams wrote:
> Nightbox,
>
> I really do have to say from a professional and players point of view
> that if your GSP is restricting SSH on your nix box then they are
> nothing but morons and you really should switch. It's not difficult to
> restrict ssh access to certain folders on a per user basis. If your GSP
> can't manage this then they really have no idea what they are doing.
>
> Of course if you only have on server hosted on a nix machine then you
> will need to ask them to add the - autoupdate switch as already has been
> suggested. Even then IMHO you will need to refer to point 1.
> Specifically the moron part.
>
> I know i don't post on this list much but that is because i just don't
> need too. The saying "too many cooks" springs to mind.
>
> Anyway, consider this with great thought as it can only be your
> decision.
>   
SSH for every customer. What a nice idea.
Yeah, you can restrict access.
Until one of those lovely privilege escalation exploits is in the wild :D
Don't get me wrong, as a customer I'd love shell access.
But as a supplier I'd prefer not to give "anyone" access at that level.
It's just one more security risk you take and if someone exploits it,
he could take down all customer accounts on the same machine.
Now that situation would make you look moronic.


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Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP

2009-09-04 Thread Gary Stanley
At 04:11 PM 9/4/2009, Dave Williams wrote:
>Nightbox,
>
>I really do have to say from a professional and players point of view
>that if your GSP is restricting SSH on your nix box then they are
>nothing but morons and you really should switch. It's not difficult to
>restrict ssh access to certain folders on a per user basis. If your GSP
>can't manage this then they really have no idea what they are doing.
>
>Of course if you only have on server hosted on a nix machine then you
>will need to ask them to add the - autoupdate switch as already has been
>suggested. Even then IMHO you will need to refer to point 1.
>Specifically the moron part.
>
>I know i don't post on this list much but that is because i just don't
>need too. The saying "too many cooks" springs to mind.
>
>Anyway, consider this with great thought as it can only be your
>decision.

I've never given anyone ssh access, nor do I plan on it. You don't 
need ssh access to run a server correctly.

-M


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Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP

2009-09-04 Thread Gary Stanley
At 04:11 PM 9/4/2009, Dave Williams wrote:
>Nightbox,
>
>I really do have to say from a professional and players point of view
>that if your GSP is restricting SSH on your nix box then they are
>nothing but morons and you really should switch. It's not difficult to
>restrict ssh access to certain folders on a per user basis. If your GSP
>can't manage this then they really have no idea what they are doing.
>
>Of course if you only have on server hosted on a nix machine then you
>will need to ask them to add the - autoupdate switch as already has been
>suggested. Even then IMHO you will need to refer to point 1.
>Specifically the moron part.
>
>I know i don't post on this list much but that is because i just don't
>need too. The saying "too many cooks" springs to mind.
>
>Anyway, consider this with great thought as it can only be your
>decision.

I've never given anyone ssh access, nor do I plan on it. You don't 
need ssh access to run a server correctly.

-M


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Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP

2009-09-04 Thread Nightbox
Thanks for all replies.

I thought also about donwloading to my server and uploading again.

Dave, i said before that they are my sponsors so i can't switch, but they do
a great job except this :)

Is autoupdate working ?

2009/9/4 Dave Williams 

> Nightbox,
>
> I really do have to say from a professional and players point of view
> that if your GSP is restricting SSH on your nix box then they are
> nothing but morons and you really should switch. It's not difficult to
> restrict ssh access to certain folders on a per user basis. If your GSP
> can't manage this then they really have no idea what they are doing.
>
> Of course if you only have on server hosted on a nix machine then you
> will need to ask them to add the - autoupdate switch as already has been
> suggested. Even then IMHO you will need to refer to point 1.
> Specifically the moron part.
>
> I know i don't post on this list much but that is because i just don't
> need too. The saying "too many cooks" springs to mind.
>
> Anyway, consider this with great thought as it can only be your
> decision.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nightbox
> Sent: 04 September 2009 14:26
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> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP
>
> I'm saying that because i want to know if i can update my server if i
> don't
> have SSH acces.
>
> 2009/9/4 Gary Stanley 
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP

2009-09-04 Thread Dave Williams
Nightbox,

I really do have to say from a professional and players point of view
that if your GSP is restricting SSH on your nix box then they are
nothing but morons and you really should switch. It's not difficult to
restrict ssh access to certain folders on a per user basis. If your GSP
can't manage this then they really have no idea what they are doing.

Of course if you only have on server hosted on a nix machine then you
will need to ask them to add the - autoupdate switch as already has been
suggested. Even then IMHO you will need to refer to point 1.
Specifically the moron part.

I know i don't post on this list much but that is because i just don't
need too. The saying "too many cooks" springs to mind.

Anyway, consider this with great thought as it can only be your
decision.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Nightbox
Sent: 04 September 2009 14:26
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP

I'm saying that because i want to know if i can update my server if i
don't
have SSH acces.

2009/9/4 Gary Stanley 

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Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP

2009-09-04 Thread Romain Pierre
Hi,

Can can also download the files on your local host (use VirtualBox to have
linux if needed) and upload all the files at same place on your server AND,
in filezilla (or other) check when asked : overwrite only if size differ
from remote (or same).

So only updated files will be uploaded. Be careful with your server.cfg,
motd.txt etc...

Romain Pierre
www.servgame.eu


2009/9/4 Eric Greer 

> just add -autoupdate to the command line at reboot the server
> Eric
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Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP

2009-09-04 Thread Eric Greer
just add -autoupdate to the command line at reboot the server
Eric


On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Nightbox wrote:

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Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP

2009-09-04 Thread Nightbox
Thanks,

I forwared this to my GSP.

2009/9/4 RTL-Servers | Lee 

> Hello,
>
> Just a thought / alternative:
>
> Add this as a users per minute cron:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> USER=`id -un`
> if test -e /home/$USER/update; then ./update.sh; fi
> if test -e /home/$USER/start; then ./start.sh; fi
> if test -e /home/$USER/stop; then ./stop.sh; fi
>
> then create scripts for update / start / stop, then whenever you want to
> run any of them just upload a blank upload / start / stop file
>
> Just a thought I threw together.
>
> Regards,
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Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP

2009-09-04 Thread Shane Arnold
Why not just ask your GSP for SSH access? Unless they don't provide it, 
in which case they fail hard.

Nightbox wrote:
> I'm saying that because i want to know if i can update my server if i don't
> have SSH acces.
>
> 2009/9/4 Gary Stanley 
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP

2009-09-04 Thread RTL-Servers | Lee
Hello,

Just a thought / alternative:

Add this as a users per minute cron:

#!/bin/sh
USER=`id -un`
if test -e /home/$USER/update; then ./update.sh; fi
if test -e /home/$USER/start; then ./start.sh; fi
if test -e /home/$USER/stop; then ./stop.sh; fi

then create scripts for update / start / stop, then whenever you want to 
run any of them just upload a blank upload / start / stop file

Just a thought I threw together.

Regards,
Lee

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Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP

2009-09-04 Thread Nightbox
I'm saying that because i want to know if i can update my server if i don't
have SSH acces.

2009/9/4 Gary Stanley 

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Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP

2009-09-04 Thread Gary Stanley
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Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP

2009-09-04 Thread Gary Stanley
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Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP

2009-09-04 Thread paca
Jeff Sugar a écrit :
> What?
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It's possible wtih a "site exec /repX/repX2/steam -update -game xx ... 
-dir /../../"
But you need to have executive acces FTP in the directory for doing this.

I don't recommand this for your client. Be cause executive right for the 
directory is dangerous, if he upload a script "perl,sh,or anything" he 
can be able to run is Hoax, second CS serveur, FTP for warez, 


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Re: [hlds_linux] Updating a server using FTP

2009-09-04 Thread Jeff Sugar
What?


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