RE: [hlds_linux] VAC CVARS
Very well said stan. :) Hopefully, i dont come off whinny to valve about getting kicked. Not at all. I understand running in linux is unsupported by vavle. I don't attempt this myself, but it would be nice to see a native Linux version of HL/CS. Maybe that would be enough incentive for me (and others) to give it a go. Even if I had to buy a new copy of HL with linux binarys, it would be more than happy to purchase the game twice. Or getting steam working in WineX would be great too... I guess I'm just concerned about upcoming changes. Well, how much are you willing to spend for it to work? $299? vmware might run HL/CS just fine. They offer a trial version, but at $299 the full version seems way too steep for your purposes. A 2nd machine running windows and a KVM could be had for about about the same price. StanTheMan TheHardwareFreak http://www.hardwarefreak.com rcon admin at: Beer for Breakfast servershttp://bfb.bogleg.org/ 209.41.98.2:27016 (CS multi-map) 209.41.98.2:27015 (DoD) 209.41.98.2:27017 (CS militia/dust2)Dallas, TX ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC CVARS
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 01:49:01 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, how much are you willing to spend for it to work? $299? vmware might run HL/CS just fine. They offer a trial version, but at $299 the full version seems way too steep for your purposes. A 2nd machine running windows and a KVM could be had for about about the same price. I have a full license of VMWare for other reasons, but it doesn't run games for poo... In WineX i get 90-100 fps, in VMWare, its around 15, heh. I bought a 128M geforce4 and new sound card to be able to game in linux, so another 300 really wouldn't bother me if it was actually efficient. I put it off for probably about a year because my old hardware wouldn't run very well, but since I've gotten a solid frame rate and full duplex sound I haven't looked back to windows. Nothing is going to drag me back to windows, I'll quit gaming first :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC CVARS
At 20:56 12.08.2002 -0400, you wrote: On 13 Aug 2002 12:38:30 +1200 Jeremy Brooking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally the way I do it is i wait untill the next VAC update comes out, parse my logs and get every kicked in between the dates of the VAC updates. Then check on this list and elsewhere if there have been false possitive claims while xx module was active. If not I then ban. that way I save the 5% from being banned due to someone elses error. Unfortunately, not many people are going to go to that much trouble. They just ban and forget. And why would they believe that I don't cheat when VAC is saying I do?? Most won't. And BTW, my specific problem is I only run linux, which is surprisingly unpopular even on a linux list. I understand I fall into the unsupported group, but past history shows penguins aren't the only victims. Today its linux, next update its this hardware/software combo, tomorrow its that combo. And the more its automated the more innocent people will get banned. I'm all for banning the little pukes that plague our community till the end of time, but Its known that VAC is catching alot more than just cheaters. I prefer just waiting with the banning until VAC says its safe. My server admins are getting real good at detecting cheaters and the obvious ones get banned. Any chance of getting a few numbers out of VAC regarding the logging of the detections on our servers? Any shocking statistics? Like most cheating occurs on german servers and so on? hehehe, no offence germans just kidding :) [OT] As for surprisingly low numbers playing on linux. I dont think thats surprising at all, you just mentioned one reason, the other obvious reason for me is that I dont want to fiddle with WineX every time a new game comes out. Usually takes a while before they are possible to use with wineX too. And even though I prefer linux for lots of stuff including servers, I am beginning to like windows too :p DarkSpawn ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC CVARS
Nothing is going to drag me back to windows, I'll quit gaming first :) WWWWWW FF !! ?? WWW WWWTT FF !! ???? WW WW WW TT FF !! ??? WW WW WW TT FF !! ?? WW WW TT FF !! WW TT FF !! ?? StanTheMan TheHardwareFreak http://www.hardwarefreak.com rcon admin at: Beer for Breakfast servershttp://bfb.bogleg.org/ 209.41.98.2:27016 (CS multi-map) 209.41.98.2:27015 (DoD) 209.41.98.2:27017 (CS militia/dust2)Dallas, TX ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC CVARS
On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 03:09:02 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WWWWWW FF !! ?? WWW WWWTT FF !! ???? WW WW WW TT FF !! ??? WW WW WW TT FF !! ?? WW WW TT FF !! WW TT FF !! ?? ROFL, i knew that would get a response :D I guess i could buy a ps2 or something. But fortunately, some games do actually have native *gasp* linux binaries. I'm starting to get hooked on quake III arena, but I have yet to check out the online action. I was very impressed that I could go to the store, buy a cd, pop it in my machine, and natively install a game without a single download or patch, or application layer. You corporate guys reading this ;) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC CVARS
On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 21:32, Rob Sanders wrote: On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 03:09:02 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WWWWWW FF !! ?? WWW WWWTT FF !! ???? WW WW WW TT FF !! ??? WW WW WW TT FF !! ?? WW WW TT FF !! WW TT FF !! ?? ROFL, i knew that would get a response :D I guess i could buy a ps2 or something. But fortunately, some games do actually have native *gasp* linux binaries. I'm starting to get hooked on quake III arena, but I have yet to check out the online action. I was very impressed that I could go to the store, buy a cd, pop it in my machine, and natively install a game without a single download or patch, or application layer. You corporate guys reading this ;) It actually supprises me how many more game developers do not spend the time porting their games to linux too. Considering the number of 'desktop' linux users is ever increasing, and systems are now shipping with it I am truely amazed. And those games that do have linux bins avaliable (RTCW for example) run far better than on windows (dual boot and permorfance difference isnt just noticable, its remarkable). ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC CVARS
Hmm...what I would suggest is checking your logs, noting the kicked wonid's (peeps on the list kindly told me about running a grep command and getting it to list the output to a text file)and creating a banned.cfg list you can then exec on your server. Jay. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] VAC CVARS
I wouldn't suggest this as of now, as VAC is still reporting false positives. You don't want to ban people who were falsly identified. -Original Message- From: Alex Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: August 12, 2002 3:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC CVARS Does anyone know if I can configure VAC to ban people instead of kicking them? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] VAC CVARS
Yup And if they come back, it'll kick them again. Red - Original Message - From: Bossaller, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC CVARS I wouldn't suggest this as of now, as VAC is still reporting false positives. You don't want to ban people who were falsly identified. -Original Message- From: Alex Lane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: August 12, 2002 3:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC CVARS Does anyone know if I can configure VAC to ban people instead of kicking them? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
