Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

2013-05-28 Thread Netshroud
So after this, then? 
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22782122postcount=10

On 28/05/2013, at 1:00 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:

 There is no orangebox anymore. All games are separate builds, but still are 
 build from same source code. Bans are per game, not per engine. I'm not sure 
 when this happened but it's beem 2-3 years already.
 
 -ics
 
 Daniel Barreiro kirjoitti:
 I think that if it's Orange Box (TF2, CSS, etc) you're banned for
 Orangebox, but if it's a modified engine (L4D, CSGO, etc) than it's
 separate.
 
 
 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:58 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well this is what valve has to say about vac bans:
 https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=589
 
 It doesn't really say if bans are per game or not.
 
 But it does say that if you get banned from any previous source engine game
 you will lose all your tf2 items.
 
 
 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Netshroud netshr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I thought that was only post-Left4Dead that games were treated
 individually, but previous games such as those you listed were still in
 groups. When did the change to individual-game bans include pre-Left4Dead
 Source games?
 
 On 27/05/2013, at 10:18 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:
 
 Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular game. No
 longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in DOD:Source
 and HL2DM like in the previous years.
 -ics
 
 Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:
 ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new valve
 titles individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to
 those accounts...
 
 
 
 From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
 hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
 
 It's banned by engine.
 
 If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
 gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if
 you're
 banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc
 
 
 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.
 
 
 
 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net
 wrote:
 VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it
 is if
 you
 are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
 Foo
 Bar
 Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
 Hello!
 
 Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server
 with
 VAC
 enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as
 being
 banned.
 
 This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort
 of
 remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but
 it's a
 very
 vague recollection.
 
 Thanks
 
 [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

2013-05-28 Thread Jeff Sugar
Indeed.

That said, if you'd like to block anyone who has been VAC banned,
regardless of the game on which it occurred, there's a SourceMod plugin to
achieve that, located here:
http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=80942

You can choose to have them kicked, banned, or just log the event in case
you want to give them the benefit of the doubt, but have them on file if at
some point you suspect them of cheating and want to know or something like
that

-Atreus

On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Netshroud netshr...@gmail.com wrote:

 So after this, then?
 http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22782122postcount=10

 On 28/05/2013, at 1:00 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:

  There is no orangebox anymore. All games are separate builds, but still
 are build from same source code. Bans are per game, not per engine. I'm not
 sure when this happened but it's beem 2-3 years already.
 
  -ics
 
  Daniel Barreiro kirjoitti:
  I think that if it's Orange Box (TF2, CSS, etc) you're banned for
  Orangebox, but if it's a modified engine (L4D, CSGO, etc) than it's
  separate.
 
 
  On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:58 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Well this is what valve has to say about vac bans:
  https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=589
 
  It doesn't really say if bans are per game or not.
 
  But it does say that if you get banned from any previous source engine
 game
  you will lose all your tf2 items.
 
 
  On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Netshroud netshr...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  I thought that was only post-Left4Dead that games were treated
  individually, but previous games such as those you listed were still
 in
  groups. When did the change to individual-game bans include
 pre-Left4Dead
  Source games?
 
  On 27/05/2013, at 10:18 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:
 
  Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular game.
 No
  longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in
 DOD:Source
  and HL2DM like in the previous years.
  -ics
 
  Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:
  ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new
 valve
  titles individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to
  those accounts...
 
 
  
  From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
  To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
  Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
 
  It's banned by engine.
 
  If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games
 (excluding
  gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if
  you're
  banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc
 
 
  On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.
 
 
 
  On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net
  wrote:
  VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand
 it
  is if
  you
  are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
  [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
  Foo
  Bar
  Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
  To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
  Hello!
 
  Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server
  with
  VAC
  enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/as
  being
  banned.
 
  This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I
 sort
  of
  remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but
  it's a
  very
  vague recollection.
 
  Thanks
 
  [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

2013-05-28 Thread Daniel Barreiro
Well I guess I've been out of the loop for a while.  Last time I discussed
VAC in depth was back with Gmod and Garry's VACventure with Baconbot
(2010-2011).  Back then it was still engine ban.



On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:21 AM, Jeff Sugar jeffsu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Indeed.

 That said, if you'd like to block anyone who has been VAC banned,
 regardless of the game on which it occurred, there's a SourceMod plugin to
 achieve that, located here:
 http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=80942

 You can choose to have them kicked, banned, or just log the event in case
 you want to give them the benefit of the doubt, but have them on file if at
 some point you suspect them of cheating and want to know or something like
 that

 -Atreus

 On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:18 AM, Netshroud netshr...@gmail.com wrote:

  So after this, then?
 
 http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22782122postcount=10
 
  On 28/05/2013, at 1:00 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:
 
   There is no orangebox anymore. All games are separate builds, but still
  are build from same source code. Bans are per game, not per engine. I'm
 not
  sure when this happened but it's beem 2-3 years already.
  
   -ics
  
   Daniel Barreiro kirjoitti:
   I think that if it's Orange Box (TF2, CSS, etc) you're banned for
   Orangebox, but if it's a modified engine (L4D, CSGO, etc) than it's
   separate.
  
  
   On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:58 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Well this is what valve has to say about vac bans:
   https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=589
  
   It doesn't really say if bans are per game or not.
  
   But it does say that if you get banned from any previous source
 engine
  game
   you will lose all your tf2 items.
  
  
   On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Netshroud netshr...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   I thought that was only post-Left4Dead that games were treated
   individually, but previous games such as those you listed were still
  in
   groups. When did the change to individual-game bans include
  pre-Left4Dead
   Source games?
  
   On 27/05/2013, at 10:18 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:
  
   Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular
 game.
  No
   longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in
  DOD:Source
   and HL2DM like in the previous years.
   -ics
  
   Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:
   ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new
  valve
   titles individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games
 to
   those accounts...
  
  
   
   From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
   To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
   hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
   Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
   Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
  
  
   It's banned by engine.
  
   If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games
  (excluding
   gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if
   you're
   banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc
  
  
   On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.
  
  
  
   On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net
   wrote:
   VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand
  it
   is if
   you
   are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
   [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf
 Of
   Foo
   Bar
   Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
   To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
  
   Hello!
  
   Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM
 server
   with
   VAC
   enabled, but the player is listed on
 http://www.vacbanned.com/as
   being
   banned.
  
   This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I
  sort
   of
   remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but
   it's a
   very
   vague recollection.
  
   Thanks
  
   [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

2013-05-27 Thread Mart-Jan Reeuwijk

ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new valve titles 
individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to those 
accounts... 




 From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com 
Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 

It's banned by engine.

If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if you're
banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc


On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.



 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net wrote:

  VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it is if
  you
  are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
  [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Foo Bar
  Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
  To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
  Hello!
 
  Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server with
 VAC
  enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as being
  banned.
 
  This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort of
  remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but it's a
 very
  vague recollection.
 
  Thanks
 
  [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

2013-05-27 Thread ics
Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular game. No 
longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in 
DOD:Source and HL2DM like in the previous years.


-ics

Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:

ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new valve titles 
individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to those 
accounts...





From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm


It's banned by engine.

If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if you're
banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc


On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:


Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.



On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net wrote:


VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it is if
you
are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Foo Bar
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

Hello!

Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server with

VAC

enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as being
banned.

This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort of
remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but it's a

very

vague recollection.

Thanks

[foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

2013-05-27 Thread Daniel Barreiro
Ah.  I missed that update.  Thanks.


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:18 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:

 Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular game. No
 longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in DOD:Source
 and HL2DM like in the previous years.

 -ics

 Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:

  ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new valve
 titles individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to
 those accounts...



  __**__
 From: Daniel Barreiro 
 smelly.feet.you.have@gmail.**comsmelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
 
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list hlds_linux@list.**
 valvesoftware.com hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm


 It's banned by engine.

 If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
 gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if you're
 banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc


 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:

  Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.



 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net wrote:

  VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it is
 if
 you
 are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.

 -Original Message-
 From: 
 hlds_linux-bounces@list.**valvesoftware.comhlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-bounces@**list.valvesoftware.comhlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com]
 On Behalf Of Foo Bar
 Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.**comhlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

 Hello!

 Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server with

 VAC

 enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as
 being
 banned.

 This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort of
 remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but it's a

 very

 vague recollection.

 Thanks

 [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

2013-05-27 Thread Netshroud
I thought that was only post-Left4Dead that games were treated individually, 
but previous games such as those you listed were still in groups. When did the 
change to individual-game bans include pre-Left4Dead Source games?

On 27/05/2013, at 10:18 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:

 Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular game. No 
 longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in DOD:Source and 
 HL2DM like in the previous years.
 
 -ics
 
 Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:
 ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new valve titles 
 individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to those 
 accounts...
 
 
 
 
 From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
 hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
 
 It's banned by engine.
 
 If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
 gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if you're
 banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc
 
 
 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.
 
 
 
 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net wrote:
 
 VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it is if
 you
 are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Foo Bar
 Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
 Hello!
 
 Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server with
 VAC
 enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as being
 banned.
 
 This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort of
 remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but it's a
 very
 vague recollection.
 
 Thanks
 
 [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

2013-05-27 Thread 1nsane
Well this is what valve has to say about vac bans:
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=589

It doesn't really say if bans are per game or not.

But it does say that if you get banned from any previous source engine game
you will lose all your tf2 items.


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Netshroud netshr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought that was only post-Left4Dead that games were treated
 individually, but previous games such as those you listed were still in
 groups. When did the change to individual-game bans include pre-Left4Dead
 Source games?

 On 27/05/2013, at 10:18 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:

  Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular game. No
 longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in DOD:Source
 and HL2DM like in the previous years.
 
  -ics
 
  Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:
  ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new valve
 titles individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to
 those accounts...
 
 
 
  
  From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
  To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
 hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
  Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
 
  It's banned by engine.
 
  If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
  gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if
 you're
  banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc
 
 
  On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.
 
 
 
  On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net wrote:
 
  VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it
 is if
  you
  are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
  [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Foo
 Bar
  Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
  To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
  Hello!
 
  Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server
 with
  VAC
  enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as
 being
  banned.
 
  This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort of
  remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but it's a
  very
  vague recollection.
 
  Thanks
 
  [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

2013-05-27 Thread Daniel Barreiro
I think that if it's Orange Box (TF2, CSS, etc) you're banned for
Orangebox, but if it's a modified engine (L4D, CSGO, etc) than it's
separate.


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:58 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well this is what valve has to say about vac bans:
 https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=589

 It doesn't really say if bans are per game or not.

 But it does say that if you get banned from any previous source engine game
 you will lose all your tf2 items.


 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Netshroud netshr...@gmail.com wrote:

  I thought that was only post-Left4Dead that games were treated
  individually, but previous games such as those you listed were still in
  groups. When did the change to individual-game bans include pre-Left4Dead
  Source games?
 
  On 27/05/2013, at 10:18 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:
 
   Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular game. No
  longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in DOD:Source
  and HL2DM like in the previous years.
  
   -ics
  
   Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:
   ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new valve
  titles individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to
  those accounts...
  
  
  
   
   From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
   To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
  hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
   Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
   Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
  
  
   It's banned by engine.
  
   If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
   gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if
  you're
   banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc
  
  
   On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.
  
  
  
   On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net
 wrote:
  
   VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it
  is if
   you
   are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
   [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of
 Foo
  Bar
   Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
   To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
   Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
  
   Hello!
  
   Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server
  with
   VAC
   enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as
  being
   banned.
  
   This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort
 of
   remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but
 it's a
   very
   vague recollection.
  
   Thanks
  
   [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

2013-05-27 Thread ics
There is no orangebox anymore. All games are separate builds, but still 
are build from same source code. Bans are per game, not per engine. I'm 
not sure when this happened but it's beem 2-3 years already.


-ics

Daniel Barreiro kirjoitti:

I think that if it's Orange Box (TF2, CSS, etc) you're banned for
Orangebox, but if it's a modified engine (L4D, CSGO, etc) than it's
separate.


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:58 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:


Well this is what valve has to say about vac bans:
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?p_faqid=589

It doesn't really say if bans are per game or not.

But it does say that if you get banned from any previous source engine game
you will lose all your tf2 items.


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Netshroud netshr...@gmail.com wrote:


I thought that was only post-Left4Dead that games were treated
individually, but previous games such as those you listed were still in
groups. When did the change to individual-game bans include pre-Left4Dead
Source games?

On 27/05/2013, at 10:18 PM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:


Yes. If you get VAC banned, bans apply only to that particular game. No

longer if you get banned in CS Source, you won't get banned in DOD:Source
and HL2DM like in the previous years.

-ics

Mart-Jan Reeuwijk kirjoitti:

ehm, afaik, with the introduction of Portal 2 they made all new valve

titles individual VAC bans, for otherwise they can't sell new games to
those accounts...





From: Daniel Barreiro smelly.feet.you.h...@gmail.com
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 

hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com

Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 6:49
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm


It's banned by engine.

If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if

you're

banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc


On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:


Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.



On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net

wrote:

VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it

is if

you
are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of

Foo

Bar

Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

Hello!

Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server

with

VAC

enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as

being

banned.

This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort

of

remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but

it's a

very

vague recollection.

Thanks

[foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

2013-05-26 Thread Frank
VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it is if you
are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Foo Bar
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

Hello!

Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server with VAC
enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as being
banned.

This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort of
remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but it's a very
vague recollection.

Thanks

[foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

2013-05-26 Thread Foo Bar
Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.



On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net wrote:

 VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it is if
 you
 are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Foo Bar
 Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
 Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

 Hello!

 Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server with VAC
 enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as being
 banned.

 This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort of
 remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but it's a very
 vague recollection.

 Thanks

 [foo] bar
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm

2013-05-26 Thread Daniel Barreiro
It's banned by engine.

If you're banned from TF2 you're banned from Source games (excluding
gmod),if you're banned from CS 1.6 you're banned from GoldSRC, if you're
banned from Mw2 you're banned from Mw2, etc


On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Foo Bar fooba...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh, right.  Good point - thanks.



 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Frank ad...@gamerscrib.net wrote:

  VAC banned could be for another game, from the way I understand it is if
  you
  are VAC banned for say TF2 you can still play CS:S and so on.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
  [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Foo Bar
  Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:48 PM
  To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
  Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC and hl2dm
 
  Hello!
 
  Today I observed a player connected and playing in a HL2DM server with
 VAC
  enabled, but the player is listed on http://www.vacbanned.com/ as being
  banned.
 
  This has me wondering if VAC is really supported in HL2DM?  I sort of
  remember hearing that VAC wasn't really supported by hl2dm but it's a
 very
  vague recollection.
 
  Thanks
 
  [foo] bar
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