Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf

2003-02-20 Thread matt_gossage
VAC has been the real killer, it drove CPU usage up around 10 - 15% atleast.

Voice comms are ok, But i still use team speak personally.


- Original Message -
From: "James Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 3:17 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf


> On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:11:40PM -0500, Justin Mitchell wrote:
> > Yah, if i recall correctly 1.3 used gobs more cpu than previous
versions. I
> > had to shut down my server b/c of it.
>
> - Multicast spectator added.
> - Voice communication added.  <-- hate it (so much)
>
> I'd say these did it.  Not entirely sure what Multicast spectator means -
> is this to do with hltv etc?
>
> --
> James.
>
>
>
> > From: "Matthew Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > So is Valve in league with Intel and AMD? or does counterstrike just
do
> > > alot more than it used to?
> > >
> > >
> > > --On Thursday, 20 February 2003 9:59 PM -0500 Justin Mitchell
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > My celeron 400 used to be full 24/7 with 20 players... and everyone
> > > > pinged
> > > > under 20. Now it'll barely handle 10
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Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf

2003-02-20 Thread Matthew Watson
I run a teamspeak server, which doesn't seem to use up much cpu, the server
shouldn't really have to do any processing on the voice so it shouldn't use
up much cpu I wouldn't imagine. (Bandwidth perhaps)

Matt.


--On Thursday, 20 February 2003 7:27 PM -0800 Mad Scientist
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



James Clark said:

- Voice communication added.  <-- hate it (so much)


I disabled v-comm - didn't seem to have any effect on CPU usage.

-Mad



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RE: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf

2003-02-20 Thread Kevin J. Anderson


->-Original Message-
->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
->[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Clark
->Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:18 PM
->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
->Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf
->
->
->On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:11:40PM -0500, Justin Mitchell wrote:
->> Yah, if i recall correctly 1.3 used gobs more cpu than previous
->versions. I
->> had to shut down my server b/c of it.
->
->- Multicast spectator added.
->- Voice communication added.  <-- hate it (so much)
->
->I'd say these did it.  Not entirely sure what Multicast spectator means -
->is this to do with hltv etc?
->

Dont forget VAC, the new netcode, new playermodels and also of course the
infamous hitbox computations.

kev

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Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf

2003-02-20 Thread Mad Scientist

James Clark said:
> - Voice communication added.  <-- hate it (so much)

I disabled v-comm - didn't seem to have any effect on CPU usage.

-Mad


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Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf

2003-02-20 Thread James Clark
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:11:40PM -0500, Justin Mitchell wrote:
> Yah, if i recall correctly 1.3 used gobs more cpu than previous versions. I
> had to shut down my server b/c of it.

- Multicast spectator added.
- Voice communication added.  <-- hate it (so much)

I'd say these did it.  Not entirely sure what Multicast spectator means -
is this to do with hltv etc?

--
James.



> From: "Matthew Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > So is Valve in league with Intel and AMD? or does counterstrike just do
> > alot more than it used to?
> >
> >
> > --On Thursday, 20 February 2003 9:59 PM -0500 Justin Mitchell
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > My celeron 400 used to be full 24/7 with 20 players... and everyone
> > > pinged
> > > under 20. Now it'll barely handle 10
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Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf

2003-02-20 Thread Justin Mitchell
Yah, if i recall correctly 1.3 used gobs more cpu than previous versions. I
had to shut down my server b/c of it.

- Original Message -
From: "Matthew Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf


> So is Valve in league with Intel and AMD? or does counterstrike just do
> alot more than it used to?
>
>
> --On Thursday, 20 February 2003 9:59 PM -0500 Justin Mitchell
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > My celeron 400 used to be full 24/7 with 20 players... and everyone
pinged
> > under 20. Now it'll barely handle 10
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Kevin Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:48 PM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf
> >
> >
> >> Hey, I remember when HL came out and a P3-500 was a 'dream server' for
> >> the damn thing  heh
> >>
> >> *sigh*  where are those 'good'ol' days?!?
> >>
> >> ~Poof
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 18:29
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf
> >>
> >>
> >> > Well ym dual AMD 1400+ does More Work than my Dual 2.4ghz Xeon
machine
> >> with
> >> > my current red hat insatll, and it lags worse when it does, Because
> >> > each
> >> of
> >> > the servers spike up to 70 % cpus usage randomly
> >> >
> >> > I love AMD chips and will probably be buying ONly amd servers from
now
> > on
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "Daniel Albuschat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 6:33 PM
> >> > Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Eric (Deacon) wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > > > I have Intel Nic , redhat 7.2, kernel 2.4.19 and the same
> > problems
> >> > > > > > of perf : lags and high cpu usage.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > /me too :-)
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > SuSE 7.3, 2.4.10-4GB, latest hlds.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Very high CPU load when more than 3-4 players are connected...
> >> > > > > Running on a Pentium IV 1.8 Ghz machine with 1.024 MB RAM
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I think I heard AMD calling your name :P
> >> > >
> >> > > I really think that a 1.8 Ghz CPU (no matter, if AMD or Intel)
> >> > > shouldn't get that high load when running the halflife server
> >> > > with 4 players.
> >> > >
> >> > > And, to begin a flamewar, as it was your wish, I think that
> >> > > Intel CPU's and Intel chipsets are much more reliable than
> >> > > AMD one's.
> >> > > And in my opinion reliability is more important than performance,
> >> > > especially when talking of server machines.
> >> > >
> >> > > What is a broken CPU good for? :P
> >> > >
> >> > > As I said, 1.8Ghz should be enough for this task.
> >> > > Just imagine, Half-Life is now a plenty years old.
> >> > > Back then, there were no 1.8Ghz machines but gameserver
> >> > > ran anyway. :-)
> >> > >
> >> > > cu, Daniel
> >> > >
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Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf

2003-02-20 Thread Matthew Watson
So is Valve in league with Intel and AMD? or does counterstrike just do
alot more than it used to?


--On Thursday, 20 February 2003 9:59 PM -0500 Justin Mitchell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


My celeron 400 used to be full 24/7 with 20 players... and everyone pinged
under 20. Now it'll barely handle 10

- Original Message -
From: "Kevin Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf



Hey, I remember when HL came out and a P3-500 was a 'dream server' for
the damn thing  heh

*sigh*  where are those 'good'ol' days?!?

~Poof
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 18:29
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf


> Well ym dual AMD 1400+ does More Work than my Dual 2.4ghz Xeon machine
with
> my current red hat insatll, and it lags worse when it does, Because
> each
of
> the servers spike up to 70 % cpus usage randomly
>
> I love AMD chips and will probably be buying ONly amd servers from now

on

>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Daniel Albuschat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 6:33 PM
> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf
>
>
> > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Eric (Deacon) wrote:
> >
> > > > > I have Intel Nic , redhat 7.2, kernel 2.4.19 and the same

problems

> > > > > of perf : lags and high cpu usage.
> > > >
> > > > /me too :-)
> > > >
> > > > SuSE 7.3, 2.4.10-4GB, latest hlds.
> > > >
> > > > Very high CPU load when more than 3-4 players are connected...
> > > > Running on a Pentium IV 1.8 Ghz machine with 1.024 MB RAM
> > >
> > > I think I heard AMD calling your name :P
> >
> > I really think that a 1.8 Ghz CPU (no matter, if AMD or Intel)
> > shouldn't get that high load when running the halflife server
> > with 4 players.
> >
> > And, to begin a flamewar, as it was your wish, I think that
> > Intel CPU's and Intel chipsets are much more reliable than
> > AMD one's.
> > And in my opinion reliability is more important than performance,
> > especially when talking of server machines.
> >
> > What is a broken CPU good for? :P
> >
> > As I said, 1.8Ghz should be enough for this task.
> > Just imagine, Half-Life is now a plenty years old.
> > Back then, there were no 1.8Ghz machines but gameserver
> > ran anyway. :-)
> >
> > cu, Daniel
> >
> > --
> > eat(this); // delicious suicide
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Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf

2003-02-20 Thread Justin Mitchell
My celeron 400 used to be full 24/7 with 20 players... and everyone pinged
under 20. Now it'll barely handle 10

- Original Message -
From: "Kevin Gerry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf


> Hey, I remember when HL came out and a P3-500 was a 'dream server' for the
> damn thing  heh
>
> *sigh*  where are those 'good'ol' days?!?
>
> ~Poof
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 18:29
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf
>
>
> > Well ym dual AMD 1400+ does More Work than my Dual 2.4ghz Xeon machine
> with
> > my current red hat insatll, and it lags worse when it does, Because each
> of
> > the servers spike up to 70 % cpus usage randomly
> >
> > I love AMD chips and will probably be buying ONly amd servers from now
on
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -----
> > From: "Daniel Albuschat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 6:33 PM
> > Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf
> >
> >
> > > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Eric (Deacon) wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > I have Intel Nic , redhat 7.2, kernel 2.4.19 and the same
problems
> > > > > > of perf : lags and high cpu usage.
> > > > >
> > > > > /me too :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > SuSE 7.3, 2.4.10-4GB, latest hlds.
> > > > >
> > > > > Very high CPU load when more than 3-4 players are connected...
> > > > > Running on a Pentium IV 1.8 Ghz machine with 1.024 MB RAM
> > > >
> > > > I think I heard AMD calling your name :P
> > >
> > > I really think that a 1.8 Ghz CPU (no matter, if AMD or Intel)
> > > shouldn't get that high load when running the halflife server
> > > with 4 players.
> > >
> > > And, to begin a flamewar, as it was your wish, I think that
> > > Intel CPU's and Intel chipsets are much more reliable than
> > > AMD one's.
> > > And in my opinion reliability is more important than performance,
> > > especially when talking of server machines.
> > >
> > > What is a broken CPU good for? :P
> > >
> > > As I said, 1.8Ghz should be enough for this task.
> > > Just imagine, Half-Life is now a plenty years old.
> > > Back then, there were no 1.8Ghz machines but gameserver
> > > ran anyway. :-)
> > >
> > > cu, Daniel
> > >
> > > --
> > > eat(this); // delicious suicide
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Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf

2003-02-20 Thread Kevin Gerry
Hey, I remember when HL came out and a P3-500 was a 'dream server' for the
damn thing  heh

*sigh*  where are those 'good'ol' days?!?

~Poof
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 18:29
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf


> Well ym dual AMD 1400+ does More Work than my Dual 2.4ghz Xeon machine
with
> my current red hat insatll, and it lags worse when it does, Because each
of
> the servers spike up to 70 % cpus usage randomly
>
> I love AMD chips and will probably be buying ONly amd servers from now on
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Daniel Albuschat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 6:33 PM
> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf
>
>
> > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Eric (Deacon) wrote:
> >
> > > > > I have Intel Nic , redhat 7.2, kernel 2.4.19 and the same problems
> > > > > of perf : lags and high cpu usage.
> > > >
> > > > /me too :-)
> > > >
> > > > SuSE 7.3, 2.4.10-4GB, latest hlds.
> > > >
> > > > Very high CPU load when more than 3-4 players are connected...
> > > > Running on a Pentium IV 1.8 Ghz machine with 1.024 MB RAM
> > >
> > > I think I heard AMD calling your name :P
> >
> > I really think that a 1.8 Ghz CPU (no matter, if AMD or Intel)
> > shouldn't get that high load when running the halflife server
> > with 4 players.
> >
> > And, to begin a flamewar, as it was your wish, I think that
> > Intel CPU's and Intel chipsets are much more reliable than
> > AMD one's.
> > And in my opinion reliability is more important than performance,
> > especially when talking of server machines.
> >
> > What is a broken CPU good for? :P
> >
> > As I said, 1.8Ghz should be enough for this task.
> > Just imagine, Half-Life is now a plenty years old.
> > Back then, there were no 1.8Ghz machines but gameserver
> > ran anyway. :-)
> >
> > cu, Daniel
> >
> > --
> > eat(this); // delicious suicide
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Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf

2003-02-20 Thread matt_gossage
Well ym dual AMD 1400+ does More Work than my Dual 2.4ghz Xeon machine with
my current red hat insatll, and it lags worse when it does, Because each of
the servers spike up to 70 % cpus usage randomly

I love AMD chips and will probably be buying ONly amd servers from now on


- Original Message -
From: "Daniel Albuschat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 6:33 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf


> On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Eric (Deacon) wrote:
>
> > > > I have Intel Nic , redhat 7.2, kernel 2.4.19 and the same problems
> > > > of perf : lags and high cpu usage.
> > >
> > > /me too :-)
> > >
> > > SuSE 7.3, 2.4.10-4GB, latest hlds.
> > >
> > > Very high CPU load when more than 3-4 players are connected...
> > > Running on a Pentium IV 1.8 Ghz machine with 1.024 MB RAM
> >
> > I think I heard AMD calling your name :P
>
> I really think that a 1.8 Ghz CPU (no matter, if AMD or Intel)
> shouldn't get that high load when running the halflife server
> with 4 players.
>
> And, to begin a flamewar, as it was your wish, I think that
> Intel CPU's and Intel chipsets are much more reliable than
> AMD one's.
> And in my opinion reliability is more important than performance,
> especially when talking of server machines.
>
> What is a broken CPU good for? :P
>
> As I said, 1.8Ghz should be enough for this task.
> Just imagine, Half-Life is now a plenty years old.
> Back then, there were no 1.8Ghz machines but gameserver
> ran anyway. :-)
>
> cu, Daniel
>
> --
> eat(this); // delicious suicide
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Re: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf

2003-02-20 Thread Timothy Nelson
I have Intel Nic , redhat 7.2, kernel 2.4.19 and the same problems of perf :
lags and high cpu usage.

Timothy
- Original Message -
From: "Rob Poe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 4:47 PM
Subject: [hlds_linux] re: Server Perf


> I have a RedHat 7.3 (2.4.18-24.7.x) box (P4 1.9, 512mb ram, SCSI disks)
> that experiences WEIRD lag issues (lag spikes) with Day of Defeat 3.1
>
> When I have > 13 people in it, and up to 21 people, the spikes are
> often and continuous.  The processor on the box rarely hits more than
> 70%
> even with 20 people (the server's max players).
>
> I thought it might have been our T1 (which rarely hits over 65k/sec
> sustained -- and the 65k/sec is the DOD clients).  We moved into
> a new building and a new T1 line.  Still does it.
>
> No weird messages in /var/log/messages and the Cisco router shows no
> packet errors in sho int s0
>
> I tried stopping all other services (named, sendmail, apache) with
> no benefit.
>
> I also have an RH8 box for a little clan server and it even lags
> (P3 1ghz, 2.4.18-24.8.0) but not as badly as the pub (fewer players
> in also).
>
> Could this ALSO be related to the kernel?  Or do you think it might be
> related to the Realtek network cards in both?  To be fair to the
> Realtek cards, I believe I had Intel nic's in them before and also
> had problems, but I'm not positive on that one.
>
> Thanks!
>
> r
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