Re: [Hornlist] Wagner tuba
Double Tuba, wow, wow, better intonation, o.k., but how about the sound characteristics of the Bb-tuba compared with the F-tuba. There is absolutely no distinction on a double tuba. But the single (4 valved) tubas have a great difference in sound & the function of the two pairs is ver different. See Wagners & Bruckners scores !!! > > I just received my new Wagner Tuba > It is comming from Germany special order to > Ricco Kuehn. > > I was wainting since may 2002 > > A double Wagner Tuba ... Wow !!! > > Ricco made 5 wagner tuba this year, 4 for a german symphony > and this one. He change something on the F side to be more > on picth all the range, so it is a new design ... > > Now i have to play low range with something special > > and my horn will be jealous .. > > François Lefebvre > > > > > > > > _ > MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! > http://messenger.fr.msn.ca/ > > ___ > Horn mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn > -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr für 1 ct/ Min. surfen! ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] organizing a workshop
> Dear list, > "Il Club del Corno" is planning to organize a horn workshop, which > would be (I think) the first ever held in Italy. I would gladly > recive tips, suggestions and advise from anybody experienced in this > task. And, by the way: how should the invited artists be rewarded? > Would covering the expenses be a sufficient offer? > > Thanks, Daniel > ___ > Horn mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn > Dear Daniele, this will not be the first ever held horn workshop in Italy. There was a week long horn workshop at Livorno, many years ago, organized by maestro Enrico Caproni. Guest were (with others): maestro Domenico Ceccarossi & Hans Pizka. There were recitals, discussions, lectures. I would recommend to contact Enrico Caproni in Firenze first to get best informations. The guest artists are mostly rewarded with just as small nominal fee & their expenses on travel. Some guest might come without any fee, depending on the individual. Keep in mind: advise from non-European friends & colleagues might not be valid anyway if it goes to finances & organisation, as they probably have no idea about the very different circumstances in European countries, where this kind of events is organized outside the frames of a music institution, unlike the USA, where most horn workshops are affiliated with some music college or university framework. I will contact you after my return home from a Far East trip this weekend. Auguri & saluti Giovanni di Monaco d.Bav. -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr für 1 ct/ Min. surfen! ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] Wagner tuba
I just received my new Wagner Tuba It is comming from Germany special order to Ricco Kuehn. I was wainting since may 2002 A double Wagner Tuba ... Wow !!! Ricco made 5 wagner tuba this year, 4 for a german symphony and this one. He change something on the F side to be more on picth all the range, so it is a new design ... Now i have to play low range with something special and my horn will be jealous .. François Lefebvre _ MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! http://messenger.fr.msn.ca/ ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] mouthpieces
I think this is sage and very noble advice, especially coming from someone who makes a living selling equipment. Thank you, Dave. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] mouthpieces > I hear this all the time, and I would guess other shops have heard it, too. > A customer is coming hard up against an audition or performance and wants to > find the Magic Bullet: that new horn, new mouthpiece, new bell, what have > you, that will get them the job, position, accolades, what have you. > > Folks, there is no Magic Bullet. There is a lot of good equipment out there, > and some will work better for you than others. But don't get new equipment > just weeks before an important performance or audition. You need to have > played on something for months before you've mastered it. Don't ruin all the > hard work you've put in learning the music by also having to learn new > equipment. > > Purchasing new equipment is as much self evaluation as it is an evaluation of > the equipment. "Know thyself." > > Dave Weiner > Brass Arts Unlimited, Inc. > ___ > Horn mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn > ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] mouthpieces
>- Original Message - >From: "John Kowalchuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Don't most of them play trumpet? Look at all the gadgets they are offered >> and procure. Most trumpet players I know can only fit all their toys in a >> gym bag. > At 5:50 PM -0600 1/21/03, John Baumgart wrote: >Don't you mean mouthpieces? I'm sure that was just a typographical error. Happens all the time. Just be thankful it wasn't a trumpet or viola player typing. Carlberg Jones Colima, Col., Mexico Tel. 001-52-312-330-3531 (machine okay) Cel. 001-52-312-320-1701 (please don't leave a message - I never check) ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] mouthpieces
- Original Message - From: "John Kowalchuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Horn List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] mouthpieces > At 09:29 AM 1/21/03 -0600, Bill Gross wrote: > >Peddle musical magic bullets for folks like below. > >The world has enough gullible people in it > > Don't most of them play trumpet? Look at all the gadgets they are offered > and procure. Most trumpet players I know can only fit all their toys in a > gym bag. Don't you mean mouthpieces? John Baumgart ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] Conn LE 500 .... what is it equivalent to?
You're talking about that eBay horn (Item # 2501676298) offered by a music store, right? Looks like a plain old regular Conn 6D to me. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. What is a Conn LE 500 equivalent to or what is it replacing and why? ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
[Hornlist] Conn LE 500 .... what is it equivalent to?
What is a Conn LE 500 equivalent to or what is it replacing and why? Thanks, Jim ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] mouthpieces
At 2:24 PM -0500 1/21/03, John Kowalchuk wrote: >Don't most of them play trumpet? Look at all the gadgets they are offered >and procure. Most trumpet players I know can only fit all their toys in a >gym bag. Not to bash trumpet players too much, considering that I have known two fine ones who also exhibit reasonable personalities, but don't trumpet players use gym bags anyway? I mean, like, don't they go from gym to rehearsal, or rehearsal to gym, or both? Carlberg Jones Colima, Col., Mexico Tel. 001-52-312-330-3531 (machine okay) Cel. 001-52-312-320-1701 (please don't leave a message - I never check) ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] mouthpieces
At 09:29 AM 1/21/03 -0600, Bill Gross wrote: >Peddle musical magic bullets for folks like below. >The world has enough gullible people in it Don't most of them play trumpet? Look at all the gadgets they are offered and procure. Most trumpet players I know can only fit all their toys in a gym bag. John Kowalchuk maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes Oshawa, Ontario http://home.ca.inter.net/~horn1 Canadians don't surf the net, we paddle it. ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
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Does anyone know of a collection for horn and piano, published a least 30 years ago, which includes the Good Friday Spell from Wagner's Parsifal? Robert King knew of none. Brian Hill ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
[Hornlist] Turning a yamaha 322 into a double?
Finally I've found the horn that does for me what I need it to do(no wrong notes:)and it's taken some considerable effort and experimentation with many many horns...except Yamahas for some reason. Unfortunately and surprisingly my horn of choice for the moment is a simple single Bb...a 322 Yamaha. I had a 321 briefly a few years ago and it was no way near this 322it perhaps is simply this particular horn? Who knows. But it plays so wonderfully I could 'scream' (actually I have:) So if I want to take this and step up into a double horn while keeping it a Yamaha ..for those of you having experience with Yamahas .what would be the equivalent 'response' of a 322 medium throat setup on the Bb side, but turning it magically into a double. I'm thinking the 567 model is too'' intermediate'ish'', but maybe not..the 667 I think has too much 'resistance' I've read but don't have first hand experience with it...the 322 is very free blowing. but maybe the 667V? maybe the 668, or 668V though it has a large throat.or?? I'm very open to suggestions along these lines...thanks for any help. Jim ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] mouthpieces
In a message dated 1/21/03 10:22:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Folks, there is no Magic Bullet. There is a lot of good equipment out there, and some will work better for you than others. But don't get new equipment just weeks before an important performance or audition. You need to have played on something for months before you've mastered it. Don't ruin all the hard work you've put in learning the music by also having to learn new equipment. Purchasing new equipment is as much self evaluation as it is an evaluation of the equipment. "Know thyself."Dave Weiner >> Bravo to Dave for telling it straight out!Reminds me of a little event in my horn life. About 25 years ago I bought a used Alex 102, a compensating ascending horn, from a principal of a fine European orchestra. I had to have a new leadpipe as my mouthpieces wouldn't fit it. It took several of them before I found one that fit and sounded right to me. Even so, it was more than five years later before I felt at home on it enough to play it in public. I had to get to the point that I was confident first with myself, and second, with the horn. Then, I could choose it if I wanted because of what it brought to my playing on a particular piece or concert. Turned out to be a dandy horn; and it was before I got it for this highly respected former owner who had used it for 17 years. It does take time to get completely familiar with an instrument, mouthpiece, leadpipe, what-have-you! CORdially, Mansur's Answers ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] mouthpieces
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I hear this all the time, and I would guess other shops have heard it,
> too. A customer is coming hard up against an audition or performance
> and wants to find the Magic Bullet: that new horn, new mouthpiece, new
> bell, what have you, that will get them the job, position, accolades,
> what have you.
>
> Folks, there is no Magic Bullet. There is a lot of good equipment out
> there, and some will work better for you than others. But don't get
> new equipment just weeks before an important performance or audition.
While I generally agree with all of the above, I must testify to the
contrary. Ages ago I had to play a little chamber music piece - horn,
violin, cello, I think by either Quantz or one of the Stamitzes - I don't
remember. Just a few days before the concert I hurt myself - the kind of
hurt that destroys endurance, entrances and high register, and you don't
know what happened, only that something isn't working. Desperate, I
consulted my mouthpiece collection and as luck would have it, I stumbled
on one that helped a lot - my tone, entrances, and high Bb returned. I
played minimally for the few intervening days and survived the concert.
I should point out that in my mouthpiece box were also several mps that
made my playing even worse. Although I still use the mp that saved me, it
long ago lost its magic.
Perhaps the greatest danger from Magic Bullet thinking is that there is a
grain of truth to it. Of course it is not anything to rely on when you
are desperate, but since different equipment behaves differently it is
possible that switching something can solve a problem. Perhaps this
mouthpiece, which has a slightly thicker rim than the one I had used
before, gave my broken muscle a little more support, or took it out of
the system. I don't know. But the relief was real.
{ David Goldberg: [EMAIL PROTECTED] }
{ Math Dept, Washtenaw Community College }
{ Ann Arbor Michigan }
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RE: [Hornlist] organizing a workshop
Another is Pete Nowlen at Calif. State [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Loren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:05 AM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] organizing a workshop Other good resources are Dr. Karen Fiehler, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Dr. Eldon Matlick, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Loren Mayhew \@() [EMAIL PROTECTED] (520) 403-6897 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hornlist] organizing a workshop In a message dated 1/21/2003 8:03:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Dear list, > "Il Club del Corno" is planning to organize a horn workshop, which > would be (I think) the first ever held in Italy. I would gladly > recive tips, suggestions and advise from anybody experienced in this > task. And, by the way: how should the invited artists be rewarded? > Would covering the expenses be a sufficient offer? > > Thanks, Daniel > Hi Daniel, Contact the International Horn Society for starters. www.hornsociety.org Regards,Jerry in Kansas City ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
RE: [Hornlist] organizing a workshop
Other good resources are Dr. Karen Fiehler, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Dr. Eldon Matlick, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Loren Mayhew \@() [EMAIL PROTECTED] (520) 403-6897 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hornlist] organizing a workshop In a message dated 1/21/2003 8:03:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Dear list, > "Il Club del Corno" is planning to organize a horn workshop, which > would be (I think) the first ever held in Italy. I would gladly > recive tips, suggestions and advise from anybody experienced in this > task. And, by the way: how should the invited artists be rewarded? > Would covering the expenses be a sufficient offer? > > Thanks, Daniel > Hi Daniel, Contact the International Horn Society for starters. www.hornsociety.org Regards,Jerry in Kansas City ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] organizing a workshop
In a message dated 1/21/2003 8:03:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Dear list, > "Il Club del Corno" is planning to organize a horn workshop, which > would be (I think) the first ever held in Italy. I would gladly > recive tips, suggestions and advise from anybody experienced in this > task. And, by the way: how should the invited artists be rewarded? > Would covering the expenses be a sufficient offer? > > Thanks, Daniel > Hi Daniel, Contact the International Horn Society for starters. www.hornsociety.org Regards,Jerry in Kansas City ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
[Hornlist] Horn Help
Readers: Pardon this cross post. However, I remember reading on this list some time ago about a site where one can go to post lost/stolen instruments. If anyone has that information, you may either post this on the list or to me privately. Thanks, Eldon Matlick = Dr. Eldon Matlick, Horn Professor, University of Oklahoma Principal Hornist, OK City Philharmonic 500 W Boyd Norman, OK 73019 (405) 325-4093 off. (405) 325-7574 fax UMI Educational Artist http://music.ou.edu/divisions/applied/horn/studio.html __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
[Hornlist] organizing a workshop
Dear list, "Il Club del Corno" is planning to organize a horn workshop, which would be (I think) the first ever held in Italy. I would gladly recive tips, suggestions and advise from anybody experienced in this task. And, by the way: how should the invited artists be rewarded? Would covering the expenses be a sufficient offer? Thanks, Daniel ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] mouthpieces
You know there could be a market for the unscrupulous out there. Peddle musical magic bullets for folks like below. The world has enough gullible people in it, all you have to do is look at all the products guaranteed to increase you gas mileage, usually sell for $19.95 to $29.95. I am not advocating anyone do any thing to take advantage of such people in the musical career field. This is neither an advice to buy or sell. Your mileage may vary. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] mouthpieces > I hear this all the time, and I would guess other shops have heard it, too. > A customer is coming hard up against an audition or performance and wants to > find the Magic Bullet: that new horn, new mouthpiece, new bell, what have > you, that will get them the job, position, accolades, what have you. > > Folks, there is no Magic Bullet. There is a lot of good equipment out there, > and some will work better for you than others. But don't get new equipment > just weeks before an important performance or audition. You need to have > played on something for months before you've mastered it. Don't ruin all the > hard work you've put in learning the music by also having to learn new > equipment. > > Purchasing new equipment is as much self evaluation as it is an evaluation of > the equipment. "Know thyself." > > Dave Weiner > Brass Arts Unlimited, Inc. > ___ > Horn mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] mouthpieces
I hear this all the time, and I would guess other shops have heard it, too. A customer is coming hard up against an audition or performance and wants to find the Magic Bullet: that new horn, new mouthpiece, new bell, what have you, that will get them the job, position, accolades, what have you. Folks, there is no Magic Bullet. There is a lot of good equipment out there, and some will work better for you than others. But don't get new equipment just weeks before an important performance or audition. You need to have played on something for months before you've mastered it. Don't ruin all the hard work you've put in learning the music by also having to learn new equipment. Purchasing new equipment is as much self evaluation as it is an evaluation of the equipment. "Know thyself." Dave Weiner Brass Arts Unlimited, Inc. ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
Re: [Hornlist] mouthpieces
Hello Ryan, What seems to be the problem with the Giard C8 mpc when you use it on the Yamaha? Regarding your college audition playing - I suspect that items such as your intonation, articulation, rhythm, and dynamics are much more important than the 'sound quality' or extremes of range. As long as the 'sound quality' is recognizeably 'horn'. If the C8 (or C10) works OK, then why not continue using it, at least for several months while you get familiar with the Yamaha ? A good source of mpc info is Moosewood - see http://www.hornmouthpiece.com With my Yamaha 668N, I use a Moosewood B12 and am very pleased with it. Other good info is at John Ericson's site - http://www.public.asu.edu/~jqerics/sug_hnmp.htm Jay Kosta Endwell NY USA - At 09:38 PM 1/20/2003 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I've recently switched to a yamaha 667vs after playing an 8D with a >giardinelli c8. Does anyone have a recommendation as to what mouthpiece I >should use with the yamaha? I've played a stork c10 the last week, and it >works reasponably well, but it's a bit difficult to play low, and it doesn't >deliver quite the sound I desire to produce with this horn. Does anyone have >experience with the 667vs? College auditions are around the corner, and I >greatly need some advice. > >Thanks, >Ryan K > > >_ >MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > >___ >Horn mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn > > ___ Horn mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn
