AW: [Hornlist] wisdom teeth
This is a typical false assumption, that horn playing has to do with a LOT OF AIR PRESSURE PASSING THROUGH A HORN PLAYERS MOUTH. Why do you play with great air pressure ? Why do you PRESS air THROUH the horn ? Why dont you play RELAXED ? Just initiate the sound (with the tongue action) & support it by LETTING air stream out of the lungs ??? Never heard probably ? Anyway, use the next two or three weeks to do other musical home work & leave the horn untouched until your mouth is healed first. Pulling out four wisdom teeth in one session, would say quite insane doctor or sadist. Do it in two sessions with some months between, o.k. - (more fun for both sides, ha, ha !) == -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Evan Hayes Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 01:24 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [Hornlist] wisdom teeth I just had all four of my wisdom teeth pulled this morning. I was told that I would be unable to play for 10-14 as to not risk dry sockets. I'm not certain if the surgeon realises the amount of air pressure that passes through a hornists mouth. Has anyone who has had a similar dental procedure give me a estimate of how long before I can play, and any advice to keep the chops in good shape until I can play again. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. www.geocites.com/penguins_attack2000 - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] NHR - the Nigeria scam
You might be amused to see the latest version of the well-known Nigeria
bank scam, where some "official" needs you in order to place a large
amount of unclaimed money from his bank into your checking account, and
then he will split it with you. The scam, if you haven't heard of it, is
that when you send the guy your account information he will clean it out.
This version strangely, is only for $12.5 million US - most of the ones I
have received are in the 30s and more. But I was LOL by the end of the
header:
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:28:23 -0700
From: MR RASHHED BELLO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FROM MR BELLO
FROM: THE DESK OF MR RASHEED BELLO
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BIG,STRONG, RELIAGLE.
What does this have to do with horn playing? Well, we cannot aspire to
any dizzier height than that our horn playing be all of these: BIG,STRONG,
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Re: [Hornlist] wisdom teeth
It really depends on your particular situation. Some people have teeth that are more firmly embedded in their gums and therefore will require more time to heal. As for me, I had all four wisdom teeth removed a few years ago and was playing the horn within 5 days after the surgery (I was off painkillers the 2nd day). But, just take as much time as you feel you need. As far as keeping your chops in shape, don't worry about it - you won't forget how to play the horn in 2-3 weeks. The important thing to remember is not to rush things when you do start playing again. -David +-- v -- .__. - . [EMAIL PROTECTED] --+ |\ \ /\ /| .:: David Goldklang\ \ \ \| Dürk |,' | . New World Symphony \ \ \ \ D4 /_. | '::: Miami Beach, Florida USA \ \ +-- `' - \| -- ': http://www.davegk.com + \|| On Wednesday, July 2, 2003, at 08:23 PM, Evan Hayes wrote: I just had all four of my wisdom teeth pulled this morning. I was told that I would be unable to play for 10-14 as to not risk dry sockets. I'm not certain if the surgeon realises the amount of air pressure that passes through a hornists mouth. Has anyone who has had a similar dental procedure give me a estimate of how long before I can play, and any advice to keep the chops in good shape until I can play again. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. www.geocites.com/penguins_attack2000 - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/dave%40davegk.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] wisdom teeth
I just had all four of my wisdom teeth cut out last month, so I know exactly what you're going through. The surgeons told me the same thing, but I knew I didn't feel up to horn-playing after only 14 days! I waited about three weeks before I even picked up my horn, and then I started with long tones and avoided the upper register for about another week. However, in the end it's how you feel and how quickly your mouth heals. Best of luck! Erin C. Kirkwood, MO ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] wisdom teeth
Evan, Take some time off and relax. Sometimes you will find taking some time off will be a real benefit to the chops. CORdially, Luke Zyla 2nd horn, WV Symphony email [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Evan Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: [Hornlist] wisdom teeth > I just had all four of my wisdom teeth pulled this morning. I was told that I would be unable to play for 10-14 as to not risk dry sockets. I'm not certain if the surgeon realises the amount of air pressure that passes through a hornists mouth. Has anyone who has had a similar dental procedure give me a estimate of how long before I can play, and any advice to keep the chops in good shape until I can play again. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. > > > www.geocites.com/penguins_attack2000 > > > - > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lzyla%40charter.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] wisdom teeth
I just had all four of my wisdom teeth pulled this morning. I was told that I would be unable to play for 10-14 as to not risk dry sockets. I'm not certain if the surgeon realises the amount of air pressure that passes through a hornists mouth. Has anyone who has had a similar dental procedure give me a estimate of how long before I can play, and any advice to keep the chops in good shape until I can play again. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. www.geocites.com/penguins_attack2000 - Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] carry-on limits
I've never had problems carrying my fixed-bell Yamaha case on planes. Usually I politely ask the flight attendant when I board if there's any room in the coat closet for my case. Almost every time they let me put it in the closet and then I don't even have to worry about it taking up my legroom. Sometimes you'll run into someone who's a bit grouchy, but a little bit of forceful persuasion usually works in that case. -David +-- v -- .__. - . [EMAIL PROTECTED] --+ |\ \ /\ /| .:: David Goldklang\ \ \ \| Dürk |,' | . New World Symphony \ \ \ \ D4 /_. | '::: Miami Beach, Florida USA \ \ +-- `' - \| -- ': http://www.davegk.com + \|| ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] carry-on limits
> Has anyone had an experience flying with a > fixed bell horn recently or know anything about the requirements these days? > Thanks, Carson This morning I flew from Milwaukee to NYC on Northwest with my fixed bell Geyer in a Paxman case. I had no problems at the X-ray or when boarding. Most of the case fits under the seat in front with some of the bell portion sticking out. I usually wear black pants to mask the part of the case that extends further than the "official" limit. On recent US Air, Continental and Midwest Express flights I've also had no problems getting a fixed-bell horn on board. My advice - don't draw attention to the horn. Just act as if you always carry it on. Cheers, Steven Ovitsky ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] carry-on limits - NHR story
In a message dated 7/2/2003 4:51:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > While nail clippers are allowed, > don't even consider carrying a pocket knife. Leave it in your luggage. We just got back from SE Alaska, and I thought I had been pretty darn savvy in my packing efforts on the way out, making sure I had put my trusty old Swiss Army knife safely away in a checked case, leaving it unlocked so TSA could look to their hearts' content. Well, when we got to the counter 2 bags were slightly overweight, so we quickly unpacked a couple items and shuffled them to another very light case. However, they then asked us if we had any film packed in our cases, which we did, as well as a camera with film in it. The screening x-ray machines destroy film, so unpack the camera and film and carry it on. OK, no problem, just a minor inconvenience. Until I got to the security check in. My knife was now shuffled in to my carry on along with my camera. My choice: go back and retrieve my case (fat chance!) and pack it away, or say good by to it. (sniff, 'bye). Moral of the story: no matter how well you think you've packed and thought in advance, TSA will find a way to inject just a little bit of inconveniece and unhappiness in your journey. Happy travels! Or is that happy travails? Dave Weiner ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] New Historical Brass Book and Band CD-ROM
Bayside Music Press is pleased to offer two new references sources relating to the history of bands, brass instruments and brass playing in the USA. The first is the limited first edition of a new book, "Tuba Views -- Echoes from the Back Row," by Mark Chalabala. The author is a collector of antique photographs, and this 241 page, 9"x12" softbound volume presents hundreds of black & white and sepia-tone photographs of low brass instruments and their players. The images date from approximately 1860 to 1920, from the infancy of photography into the early twentieth century. This book is newly-printed in a limited first edition of only 750 copies. It retails for $50.00. The second is a new and expanded CD-ROM edition of a widely-sought band reference work that has been out of print for decades -- Pioneers in Brass, by Glenn Bridges. Originally published in the 1960's, this is an enlarged and expanded version of the book issued now on CD-ROM. It features profiles and biographies of more than 70 of the greatest brass players and band musicians of the Golden Age of American Bands, with pictures, sample programs, and 45 complete recordings dating from the 1890's to the 1920's. For example, there three different trumpet solos performed by Jules Levy, composer of the "Grand Russian Fantasia, who died in 1903. The CD is searchable, and the many rare images are downloadable. This important historical work should be in every band musician's library! Requires Windows 3.x or later, and a sound card for the musical selections. (Sorry, no Mac version available at this time.) Price: $29.95. The above items are available through the Bayside Music Press website at: http://www.baysidemusicpress.com For shipment to the USA and credit card payment, you may use the shopping cart on the site. For other payment methods or for shipment outside the USA, please e-mail your order to me at: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please don't send credit card information via e-mail. The PayPal Shopping Cart on our website is secure, but our e-mail server isn't. We also maintain a private e-mail mailing list through Yahoo Groups, by which you may receive periodic announcements of new publications other additions to the Bayside Music Press catalog. To subscribe, just send an e-mail to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] There's no need to put anything in the subject line or the text area -- just send it and Yahoo's computers will handle the details. And of course if you have questions about these or any of the hundreds of other reference works or sheet music titles on our site, please don't hesitate to ask! Jim O'Briant Bayside Music Press Gilroy, CA ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Lip injury experts?
Clayton Whetmore, here: Stephen F. Pearce wrote: "I love the smell of camphor in the morning." We'd get up before dawn and carve a new mouthpiece out of cardboard so we could make it through another rehearsal. That was after we did our chores. Next, we walked the four miles, uphill all the way LOL!!! Move over, Cabbage! ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] carry-on limits
Clayton Whetmore, here: J Burch wrote: Your mileage may vary. Every airport is different from every other. And every airline is different from every other within the same airport. And every airport is different from one hour to the next at the same checkpoint. All this despite TSA "standardization" of security procedures. (I run security computer systems at O'Hare, so I know whereof I speak.) You can minimize your chances of having everything searched, including your horn and case, by purchasing your tickets as far in advance as possible. That lowers your risk factors in the security profile. In other words, tickets purchased at the last minute will cause you to be searched, your luggage to be opened and everything touched, your person to be wanded, and the rest of your carry on items to be taken apart and examined, and anything else the security person deems necessary to assure that you pose no risk. Consider wearing tennis shoes, avoiding the steel shank that is in the sole of many boots and dress shoes. Avoid wearing a large belt buckle. Any large metal object passing through the initial screening gateway will automatically shuttle you out of line, for individualized attention. While nail clippers are allowed, don't even consider carrying a pocket knife. Leave it in your luggage. Have a good flight! ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] carry-on limits
Clayton Whetmore, here: carson smith wrote: Has anyone had an experience flying with a fixed bell horn recently or know anything about the requirements these days? Thanks, Carson I spent last summer up in Southeast Alaska, on an elective work assignment. Yeah, I know, what a rough life, but someone has to do it! It was the opportunity of a lifetime! That area of the country is a temperate rainforest. Flowers abounded, the weather was wonderful, except for rain 222 days/year. Anyway, I took along my fixed bell horn, a Yamaha 667. I made the decision to send it through as baggage, rather than carry it onto the plane. There were many, many flights required by this job, at least a dozen, or more, as I recall. Only one bit of damage happened. Somewhere along the way the case got treated a little too roughly, resulting in a pushed in 2 cm area on the part protecting the bell. A small peripheral wave, similar to what might happen if one carelessly caught the lip of the bell against something, resulted. My solution was to pack the bell area inside the case with a cotton sweater I had along. I wrapped it around the lip of the bell, stuffing the rest of the material inside the horn. No further damage happened to my horn. Since returning, I have purchased a ProTec case. The padding inside the case is much more snug. The case itself seems a bit more sturdy, as well. I would have no fear of allowing it to go through with my baggage, next time I travel. One caveat is in order. If you choose to boldly relinquish your horn, letting it out of your site, abandoning it to the horrors of baggage handlers, be aware that you can no longer lock your luggage. If you're not available to unlock luggage, it may not be allowed to travel with you. I've heard that locks might be removed, allowing searches, should the inspectors feel it to be indicated. Good luck! I hope you don't have to buy an extra ticket to put your horn on the seat beside you. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Lip injury experts?
--original message snipped--- message: 2 date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 14:51:01 -0400 from: Robert Marlatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> subject: [Hornlist] Re: Lip injury experts? I carried a bottle of camphor and q-tips and administered first aid throughout the day! But... I survived... Let's hear some more "oh yeah, that's nothing!" stories! reply--- "I love the smell of camphor in the morning." We'd get up before dawn and carve a new mouthpiece out of cardboard so we could make it through another rehearsal. That was after we did our chores. Next, we walked the four miles, uphill all the way, to the practice field. Our director told us to practice our 8 to 5 step along the highway so that parades would be a breeze. Whatever Mr. Mac said was the gospeland we did it because it was good for us and developed character. We didn't take breaks...enough said on that topic. If we were anything, it wasn't soft. At the end of the day it wasn't an uncommon thing to stay late and have another section rehearsal because we probably needed it. The only thing that stopped us was the mosquito truck that sprayed the area at dark. Kids today just don't have a clue. O.K.! Once more from the fanfare Stephen F. Pearce Foley, Alabama [EMAIL PROTECTED] The main trouble with a French Horn is that it is too tangled up. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 6/18/2003 ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] DAVID - Fed Ex Tracking # 630612993490 To Arrive 7/3
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RE: [Hornlist] carry-on limits
carson smith wrote: > I will be traveling on US Air next week > and would like to take my fixed bell horn > with me. ... I am wondering how lenient the > airlines would be in my case. I would suggest that you contact the US Air ticket counter at your departure airport now, and let them know of your situation. If you don't get satisfactory answers, ask for the supervisor. If you still don't get satisfactory answers, then go higher until you do. Jim O'Briant Bayside Music Press Gilroy, CA 95020 http://www.baysidemusicpress.com ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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Re: [Hornlist] carry-on limits
Took a fixed-bell on American - Chicago O'Hare to Dallas/Fort Worth Int. and return - over Spring Break (last week of March 2003) - no problem. Simply asked the ticket counter people if it could be carried on and stowed in the front closet or overhead. Answer, "Sure, no problem." Had to open it for TSA inspection a few times. Didn't have to play it to prove it wasn't a disguised bomb. (If I had played it, would they have thrown me off the plane? Everybody's a critic these days.) Your mileage may vary. Every airport is different from every other. And every airline is different from every other within the same airport. And every airport is different from one hour to the next at the same checkpoint. All this despite TSA "standardization" of security procedures. (I run security computer systems at O'Hare, so I know whereof I speak.) Good luck. At 10:55 AM 7/2/03, you wrote: ... traveling on US Air ... would like to take my fixed bell horn ... anyone had an experience flying with a fixed bell ... ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] carry-on limits
Carson, I'll send you the letters received from Local 12 (Sacramento) that 'should' allow relatively easy air travel when traveling with your instrument. May take awhile...the files are large. Also, not sure your hotmail account will be able to handle files of this size, but will try. Fred -Original Message- From: carson smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hornlist] carry-on limits Hi, I will be traveling on US Air next week and would like to take my fixed bell horn with me. Five years ago I had no problem doing this, but I would imagine there are more stringent requirements these days. My horn is a couple of inches larger than the requirements and I am wondering how lenient the airlines would be in my case. Has anyone had an experience flying with a fixed bell horn recently or know anything about the requirements these days? Thanks, Carson _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fred_baucom%40calpers.ca.gov ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] carry-on limits
Hi, I will be traveling on US Air next week and would like to take my fixed bell horn with me. Five years ago I had no problem doing this, but I would imagine there are more stringent requirements these days. My horn is a couple of inches larger than the requirements and I am wondering how lenient the airlines would be in my case. Has anyone had an experience flying with a fixed bell horn recently or know anything about the requirements these days? Thanks, Carson _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Lip injury experts?
Last time I checked I'm still me. Actually, the chipped tooth was from an early-age playground accident. I didn't have it capped until vanity finally overwhelmed me in college. Change my playing? Duh! My endurance improved immediately. Bob Marlatt Boston Massachusetts from: Chris Tedesco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Chipped tooth from marching band and camphor? That bears a striking resemblence to my marching band experience. Are you sure you're not me? Sworn off Lip Medex, Carmex, and marching, Chris --- Robert Marlatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Pizka) >Why do the youngsters have all these lip injuries from playing in the >summer camps ? The teachers there are crazy to conduct, so they put the >schedule full as possible, no matter the youngsters are prepared fore > >that or not. > Here here! I couldn't agree more. I attended a one week (mandatory) marching band camp my three years in high school band. Imagine Indiana weather in mid-August. We marched 5 or 6 hours a day and played most of that time with a 1 hour "concert band" rehearsal thrown in after lunch. My HS band marched Big 10 style: 8 steps to 5 yards either ankle-knee and glide step. The pounding of ankle-knee was especially torturous. To minimize the damage I used a Farkas SC (shallow cup) mouthpiece with my Conn Mellophonium. Oh the memories...I also had a chipped front tooth that would cause the inside of my top lip to bleed. I carried a bottle of camphor and q-tips and administered first aid throughout the day! But... I survived... Let's hear some more "oh yeah, that's nothing!" stories! > Bob Marlatt ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] a poem
Hi, all- Recently gave a talk about conductors with whom I have played. In preparing, this bit of silliness bullied its way into my consciousness: Pathos and ruckus Ooze from conducus. Even, from Beinum. (Always, from Reinum.) Therefore, we hornists?: Card-carrying scornists. I hope you (still) enjoy your summer--DK "Be regular and orderly in your life so that you may be violent and original in your work. Gustave Flaubert Horn Professor Emeritus, Denver University www.du.edu/~dkaslow Home: 34 George St, Montpelier, VT 05602 Phone: 802 229-2994 Author, "Living Dangerously with the Horn: Thoughts on Life and Art" and "With Aspirations High: Discussions and Exercises for Musicians" Available (signed) from [EMAIL PROTECTED], and nationally from bookstores, through www.booksense.com (In progress: "Spontaneity and Predictability in Music and Everyday Life") ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
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