[Hornlist] Horn and High Voice pieces (as well as the not-so-high)

2005-03-02 Thread Paul Kampen
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Okay orchestra, let's take September, once more from the beginning, and
down a
half-step if you please! Okay, ready...???

Dear All

A couple of years ago, I played in a concert at the Telewest Arena in
Newcastle-on-Tyne with a tenor singer - whatsisname? - big bloke who always
has a white towel with him.

At any rate, he did the duet from the end of Act 1 of La Boheme with a
superb young soprano;  we were using a special set of parts and, half way
through there was a funny key change (which was highly unconvincing) and
the rest of it was all down a semitone.

Mind you, I have known the soprano's last note in this sung offstage by a
member of the chorus (earning a fraction of what the Mimi is getting) and
we once had to do the whole of Rodolpho's aria down a semitone for the
whole run with a tenor from the USA.  Unfortunately, one night in Hull we
had a deputy 3rd horn who forgot my verbal reminder about this and did not
notice the usual 3rd horn's pencil marks.  Nor did he understand the
muttered comments from the 2nd horn and myself until, in desperation, the
2nd horn got hold of the 3rd horn's instrument and pulled it away from his
embouchure.

Cheers

Paul A. Kampen (W. Yorks UK)
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[Hornlist] Actions You've Had to Take During Performances

2005-03-02 Thread Margaret Dikel
At 09:23 AM 3/2/2005, Paul Kampen wrote:
[...snipped...]  Nor did he understand the
muttered comments from the 2nd horn and myself until, in desperation, the
2nd horn got hold of the 3rd horn's instrument and pulled it away from his
embouchure.
This reminded me of a concert I played many years ago in Boston.  The
2nd horn player became ill at the last moment, so a student from a famous
conservatory in Boston was called in to take his place.  (Everyone figured
any horn player from this school was automatically excellent, so no one
bothered to get referrals, they just called and said send us a horn.)  Said
player showed up 15 minutes before we started, so I only had time to quickly
go over the part with him and attempt to note any important things.  Yes,
yes, I can read was his response.
However, during the actual performance he made several errors, and each
time he made an error he would **stop playing, take the pencil from his horn,
and circle his error in the part.**  After watching this 3 or 4 times, I 
reached
over, took his pencil, and whispered a very specific threat about the damage
I would do to him and his instrument if he stopped playing for any reason
except to breathe.

He got the message.
So, anyone else out there with more stories?
Margaret
Margaret Dikel
JCCSO Librarian / Horn / Webmaster
11218 Ashley Drive, Rockville MD 20852
301-881-0122
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.jccso.org
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[Hornlist] RE: Horn and High Voice pieces

2005-03-02 Thread rob
Available from the IHS Thesis Lending Library: 

Burroughs, Mary.  An Annotated Bibliography of the Works for Horn, Voice 
and Piano from 1830-1850 with an Analysis of Selected Works from 1830-1986. 
D.M.A. diss., University of Illinois, 1990. UMI# 90-26150. 

follow this link: 

http://www.hornsociety.org/NEWS_INFO/info/thesis_library.html 

Richard Burdick
1st Horn Regina Symphony
Regina, SK Canada
Certified Konzertstuckable 

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[Hornlist] West Point Band

2005-03-02 Thread Alan Cole

http://www.opinionjournal.com/la/?id=110006360

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Re: [Hornlist] Actions You've Had to Take During Performances

2005-03-02 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 9:43 AM -0500 3/2/05, Margaret Dikel wrote:
However, during the actual performance he made several errors, and each
time he made an error he would **stop playing, take the pencil from his horn,
and circle his error in the part.**


Greetings -

I know a principal hornist in a professional orchestra who does this also.
I don't understand why.

At first I thought it was to mark places to go over later, but then I
realized that wasn't the case, it was simply to mark where errors occurred.

Now I think it's a mark of insecurity.

There are lots of circles in this players parts.

Regards,

Carlberg

Carlberg Jones
Guanajuato, Gto.
MEXICO


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Re: [Hornlist] Actions You've Had to Take During Performances

2005-03-02 Thread Chris Tedesco
One of the more shameful and really the most TERRIBLE music experience in my
life was when during my stint at the dinner theatre, our drummer was in an car
accident and despite calling the theatre multiple times to explain, no one was
able to get him to the right person to talk to or even pass along the message.

We held up the show for about 45 minutes or so and eventually one of the stage
hands volunteered to play the part, as he was a drummer and knew the book. 
The music director tried and tried and tried and begged and pleaded to have him
NOT play but a non-music person more or less forced it upon us to allow him to
play.  

Now don't get me wrong, CATS isn't exactly as hard as say a Strauss opera, but
to a seemingly untrained musician, reading down a part with multiple cuts,
unprinted tempo changes driven by the percussion, mixed meter, etc etc etc, it
was an absolute DISASTER.

We had to start and stop pieces more than once.  The mistakes in the percussion
caused chain reactions of mistakes in all parts and it was just awful.  

Needless to say, we took full advantage of the half-priced Perfect Margeritas
at Grizzlebee's after the show! 


Chris



--- Margaret Dikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 09:23 AM 3/2/2005, Paul Kampen wrote:
 
 [...snipped...]  Nor did he understand the
 muttered comments from the 2nd horn and myself until, in desperation, the
 2nd horn got hold of the 3rd horn's instrument and pulled it away from his
 embouchure.
 
 This reminded me of a concert I played many years ago in Boston.  The
 2nd horn player became ill at the last moment, so a student from a famous
 conservatory in Boston was called in to take his place.  (Everyone figured
 any horn player from this school was automatically excellent, so no one
 bothered to get referrals, they just called and said send us a horn.)  Said
 player showed up 15 minutes before we started, so I only had time to quickly
 go over the part with him and attempt to note any important things.  Yes,
 yes, I can read was his response.
 
 However, during the actual performance he made several errors, and each
 time he made an error he would **stop playing, take the pencil from his horn,
 and circle his error in the part.**  After watching this 3 or 4 times, I 
 reached
 over, took his pencil, and whispered a very specific threat about the damage
 I would do to him and his instrument if he stopped playing for any reason
 except to breathe.
 
 He got the message.
 
 So, anyone else out there with more stories?
 
 Margaret
 
 
 Margaret Dikel
 JCCSO Librarian / Horn / Webmaster
 11218 Ashley Drive, Rockville MD 20852
 301-881-0122
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.jccso.org
 
 
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[Hornlist] practice mutes

2005-03-02 Thread Julius Pranevicius
Hello,
 
I'm looking for practice mute, but I couldn't find much reviews on them. Please 
share your experiences on various practice mutes: which you find good, less 
good, or terrible? Which mute has best quality for reasonable price?
 
I found that Humes and Berg and Dennis Wick mutes are cheapest and at the 
moment they are at the top of my list. All recommendations are welcome.
 
Thanks in advance
Julius


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Re: [Hornlist] practice mutes

2005-03-02 Thread Klaus Bjerre
 From: Julius Pranevicius [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hello,
 
 I'm looking for practice mute, but I couldn't find much reviews on them.
 Please share your experiences on various practice mutes: which you find good,
 less good, or terrible? Which mute has best quality for reasonable price?
 
 I found that Humes and Berg and Dennis Wick mutes are cheapest and at the
 moment they are at the top of my list. All recommendations are welcome.

I have the DW and the Yamaha Silent Brass.

The Silent Brass without the electronics is by far my preferred tool, but
for warming up Farkas style on the F side, where I prefer a stopping mute.

I think mine is a Paxman (lacquered brass). The resistance certainly
challenges ones breath support musculature to be into a state of awakeness.

Klaus

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Re: [Hornlist] practice mutes

2005-03-02 Thread Patrick Morgan
I use a Silent Brass mute, which is pretty good [in my opinion] because 
it offers less resistance than most other mutes.

Dave
On 02.03.2005, at 15:24, Julius Pranevicius wrote:
Hello,
I'm looking for practice mute, but I couldn't find much reviews on 
them. Please share your experiences on various practice mutes: which 
you find good, less good, or terrible? Which mute has best quality for 
reasonable price?

I found that Humes and Berg and Dennis Wick mutes are cheapest and at 
the moment they are at the top of my list. All recommendations are 
welcome.

Thanks in advance
Julius
		
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[Hornlist] Actions You've Had to Take During Performances (file under: Disasters Narrowly Averted)

2005-03-02 Thread Ray Sonja Crenshaw
 So, anyone else out there with more stories?

Here's good one, and though I was only a spectator, I was--as 1st horn--waiting 
to bring
my section into battle, making me a most interested, as well as involved, 
spectator. As
you read this, give thanks that not everyone around you has perfect pitch while
simultaneously offering double thanks that at least SOME do.

There is a compendium of orchestra/choir pieces that were originally--and
separately--written to honor fallen cancer victims.  It's called, Sing For The 
Cure, and
it's often used as a fund-raiser concert for the Susan G Komen (pardon if my 
spelling of
her name is wrong) Foundation. I've performed it twice, and it's likely that 
many of you
have done likewise in your own region.

Well, there is a somewhat-scary part where a trio of ladies must enter into a 
cascading
downward pattern, preceded only by the last notes of the cellos (in a foreign 
key), and
then a few seconds of silence. The soprano has to come in on (I'm going to 
guess here) a
top-staff F# after last having heard only a low Bb from the cello section, and 
that note
having been preceded by several seconds of silence. After the cascading trio 
entrance, the
piano enters in the new key that was established (we hope) by the trio. As you 
may have
guessed, in rehearsals the soprano nailed it EVERY TIME, and the two lower 
voices that
followed her entrance based their pitch, of course, relative to hers. Then came 
the
concert.

I sat in the section, ready to follow the piano in after trio. The cellos died 
away, then
silence, then the soprano entered... about a major 2nd low! The other two 
ladies, of
course, entered in this new key established by our, to date, unsuspecting 
soprano. My
wife (2nd horn) turned slowly toward me as a chill spread across the entire 
orchestra.
Everything was okay for the moment, but within the next 6-bars or so the piano 
was going
to come in and, when he did, it was going to a sobering moment of payback for 
the horrible
aural train wreck that was unfolding--in achingly slow-motion--right before our 
collective
ears. It was only my devotion to duty and my horn colleagues that I remained in 
my seat!
Then the pianist's hands raised in preparation of the inevitable...

But then something magic happened: The piano entered in IN THE SAME WRONG KEY 
AS THE
SOPRANO STARTED, waited for their note to die, and then deftly
modulated--extemporaneously--into the proper key so we horns could enter, 
shaken but not
stirred. What a night!

In case you should think I'm embellishing, I'm willing to name names. The 
brilliant
pianist's name is E. Lane Moore, and he is a high-school chorus director near 
here. In
addition to being one the finest musicians I've ever worked with (and there 
have been
some), he also gets my personal lifetime achievement award in the category of, 
Best
Extemporaneous Victory Pulled Kicking And Screaming From The Jaws Of Certain 
Defeat And
Abject Failure.

Now if I can only find a large-enough trophy for the inscription!

jrc in SC

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Re: [Hornlist] Actions You've Had to Take During Performances (file under: D...

2005-03-02 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
It was, or should have been, the Brahms Requiem.  All had gone well,  the 
singers were up to the mark, the chorus produced a fine body of sound and  the 
orchestra sounded as good as a student orchestra was going to sound.   The 
local 
critic had already made up his mind and could well have gone home with  
promise of yet another glowing report in the Wakefield Observer (or whatever it 
 
was called)
 
In the silence before the baritone (tenor?) solo  movement we had no inkling 
of what was to follow.  
 
The movement begins with horns and bassoons in unison and octaves.   Well, 
that was how Herr Brahms envisaged it anyway.  Someone  got it wrong.  The poor 
singer found himself faced with a  choice.  One or more of the notes was 
correct,  one or more was  incorrect.  He chose badly.
 
For a couple of bars we felt sorry for him as he stumbled at about  a 
semitone's distance from the strings and woodwind, but our sympathy soon  
turned to 
admiration as he stuck to his guns singing, against all odds, his  glorious D 
flats against a universal D natural.  And he kept it  up for the entire 
movement and the band played on - Nearer my God to Thee as  the ship sank 
beneath 
the icy waves.
 
I don't remember his name - he's probably glad.  We never really found  out 
who had played the notes of sabotage, but we had our suspicions.  
 
We never did the Brahms again.
 
All the best,
 
Lawrence
 
þaes  ofereode - þisses swa  maeg

http://lawrenceyates.co.uk




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[Hornlist] Re: Actions You've Had to Take During Performances

2005-03-02 Thread KendallBetts
Here's an old story told to me by trombonist-conductor Henry Charles Smith 
III:

A trombonist in a major opera orchestra gets called for an outside job that 
conflicts and he can't find a sub.  Desperate, he talks to one of the opera 
house janitors about subbing for him.

The janitor keeps saying No, no, no, I can't play the trombone.  The 
trombonist keeps saying It's not a problem.  Just dress in my tails, sit there 
and 
wait.  When the other trombonists start playing, put the mouthpiece up to your 
face and move the slide up and down.  Nobody will know the difference.  
Finally convinced, the janitor accepts the gig.

The next day, the trombonist sees the janitor and asks How'd it go last 
night?

Terrible! replies the janitor.

Did you wear my tails?

Yes.

Did you sit and wait for the other trombonists to play?

Yes.

Did you put the mouthpiece to you lips and move the slide up and down, up 
and down?

Yes.

Then what on earth went wrong?

The other two trombonists were janitors, too!
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[Hornlist] Glottic sound

2005-03-02 Thread Adam Black
I have recently recommenced horn playing, after an absence of 20 years or 
so, and am thoroughly enjoying it. However, I am becoming frustrated by a 
glottic closure type of noise (a gulp of sorts I guess), at initial 
tonguing. Can anyone help me as to possible causes, and / or tips to help?
Thanks, Adam Black

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[Hornlist] Natural Mellophone Discovered - First Marching Horn of Its Kind!!!

2005-03-02 Thread HORNTRASH
And, it's for sale!!!

Click here: eBay-Artikel 7305166073 (Endet 09.03.05 18:57:09 MEZ ) - Altes 
Horn 

Kindestest of Greetonings and Happiestest of Biddonings,

Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist
Principal 8th horn and Principal 4th Wagner Tuber, Schplittenotendorf am 
Oedland Staatsoper und Philharmoniker, (ret.)
Solo Horn, Exit 2 Brass Quintet
Hornist, Broken Winds WW Quintet
Solo 4th Horn (Leader, call me for bookings), Smirnoff Horn Quartet
Assistant Associate Principal Mellophone, NJ Turnpike Authority Drum and 
Bugle Corps, The Phantom Lane Changers
Hornist as Needed, L'Ensemble du Chambre des Palourdes
Principal Natural Horn, I Soloisti di Feces
Principal Baroque and Hunting Horn, Camarata Vongoleforte
Adjunct, Part-time, Arms-length Professor of Horn and Pest Control, Exit 2 
Community College, Exit 2, NJ
Author, The Kopprasch Connection, Kopprasch for Fun and Profit, 
Kopprasch for the New Millenium: Where Do you Fit In? Hooked on Hornonics, 
and 
What If Saddam Had Given Ouday and Qusay Olds Ambassador or Conn Pan American 
Single F Horns and a Kopprasch Book Instead of AK 47's, Booze and Porn? 
Founder, Director and CEO, Universal Institute for the Study, Preservation 
and Dissemination of Kopprasch Throughout the Solar System
Founder and Guru Extraordinaire, Hornaholics Anonymous
Grand Poobah of the Koppraschian Kult
Director and Program Manager, The All Kopprasch Channel (AKC), Kopprasch 
Public Radio (KPR)
Host of The Kopprasch Factor on AKC and All Kopprasch Considered on KPR
Founder of Kopprasch Depot, your one stop shop for all you need!
Interplanetarily Known Soloist and Artist of Record
Exclusive Bundy, Carl Fischer, Olds Ambassador, Sansone and Conn Artist Who 
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Re: [Hornlist] Natural Mellophone Discovered - First Marching Horn of Its Kind!!!

2005-03-02 Thread Klaus Bjerre
Surely worth a Jubilare!

It is one of the few continental Asian brass instruments with no bad valves.

Klaus


 And, it's for sale!!!
 
 Click here: eBay-Artikel 7305166073 (Endet 09.03.05 18:57:09 MEZ ) - Altes
 Horn 
 
 Kindestest of Greetonings and Happiestest of Biddonings,
 
 Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist
 Principal 8th horn and Principal 4th Wagner Tuber, Schplittenotendorf am
 Oedland Staatsoper und Philharmoniker, (ret.)
 Solo Horn, Exit 2 Brass Quintet
 Hornist, Broken Winds WW Quintet
 Solo 4th Horn (Leader, call me for bookings), Smirnoff Horn Quartet
 Assistant Associate Principal Mellophone, NJ Turnpike Authority Drum and
 Bugle Corps, The Phantom Lane Changers
 Hornist as Needed, L'Ensemble du Chambre des Palourdes
 Principal Natural Horn, I Soloisti di Feces
 Principal Baroque and Hunting Horn, Camarata Vongoleforte
 Adjunct, Part-time, Arms-length Professor of Horn and Pest Control, Exit 2
 Community College, Exit 2, NJ
 Author, The Kopprasch Connection, Kopprasch for Fun and Profit,
 Kopprasch for the New Millenium: Where Do you Fit In? Hooked on Hornonics,
 and 
 What If Saddam Had Given Ouday and Qusay Olds Ambassador or Conn Pan American
 Single F Horns and a Kopprasch Book Instead of AK 47's, Booze and Porn?
 Founder, Director and CEO, Universal Institute for the Study, Preservation
 and Dissemination of Kopprasch Throughout the Solar System
 Founder and Guru Extraordinaire, Hornaholics Anonymous
 Grand Poobah of the Koppraschian Kult
 Director and Program Manager, The All Kopprasch Channel (AKC), Kopprasch
 Public Radio (KPR)
 Host of The Kopprasch Factor on AKC and All Kopprasch Considered on KPR
 Founder of Kopprasch Depot, your one stop shop for all you need!
 Interplanetarily Known Soloist and Artist of Record
 Exclusive Bundy, Carl Fischer, Olds Ambassador, Sansone and Conn Artist Who
 Does Not Get His Horns For Free
 Phone: yes
 Fax: yes
 E-mail: yes
 Website: no
 
 Good Kopprasch cannot be bargained for.
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Re: [Hornlist] Natural Mellophone Discovered - First Marching Horn ofIts Kind!!!

2005-03-02 Thread John Baumgart
AND it's sehr Dekorativ!  There must be a TGI Friday's somewhere that
hasn't been fully decorated yet.

John Baumgart

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 And, it's for sale!!!

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[Hornlist] Speaking of music for voice and horn...

2005-03-02 Thread Steve Freides
http://www.bridgerecords.com/9164.htm

-S-

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[Hornlist] Recycled Music...

2005-03-02 Thread Valkhorn
You know, the motif that occurs in twice in the first movement of the 3rd  
Mozart Horn concerto (la da da da, la da da da, la da da da dee)? Well I heard  
that same motif several times in one of Mozart's Piano concertos, and I wonder 
 if anyone on the list has the number of that particular piano concerto.
 
Thanks!
 
Also if anyone has any other information to where themes in Mozart Horn  
concertos have ended up in other Mozart works (or other non-Mozart) works, I'd  
sure love to know about it.
 
-William
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