RE: [Hornlist] range problems

2005-04-09 Thread hans
There is no pulling, no lifting (pulling all over the
face). The less movement in your face you can see when
looking into the mirror THE BETTER.

The vibrating muscle is is not pulled thin or tight for
playing high notes. The vibrating muscle is SHORTENED by
TENSION or CONCENTRATION, which can be achieved much better
by THICKENING the muscle (cushion effect, which is also very
helpful against mouth piece pressure) than by stretching via
Corner action. Dr.Farkas speaks of the typical Brass player
face or mask or making a serious face.  


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I have a related question for those with a good high range
-

When you tighten your lips (embouchure), is there a
particular 'direction'
in which you feel (or imagine) the corners of your mouth
pulling ?

For example, does the tightening of the corners feel
directed -
- straight downward
- directly inward
- directly backward
- downward and inward towards the neck, back of jaw
- etc.

How do you describe where the 'pull' is aimed ?

If you have another way to explain the proper feeling of
the 'pull', 
please tell me about it.

Jay Kosta
Endwell NY
amateur player



I second that question!

JH


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[Hornlist] Pieces with extended techniques

2005-04-09 Thread David Mickus
Hello everyone.  Our final project in our music history class is to write a
paper on a twentieth century work for your instrument (or featuring it
prominently) which utilizes extended techniques.  We have to perform excerpts
from the work demonstrating these techniques.  I was wondering if there are any
suggestions any of you might have about this subject.  Also, any ideas of where
to quickly find information on these pieces and/or techniques would be
appreciated.  Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

David


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RE: [Hornlist] Pieces with extended techniques

2005-04-09 Thread Bill Gross
Now begin the diatribes about students not able to use the library, students
not able to use Google, students not able to appreciate the fact that in my
day I had to walk five miles to the practice hall in snow drifts five feet
deep, uphill both ways.  


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RE: [Hornlist] Pieces with extended techniques

2005-04-09 Thread David Mickus
Just so that everyone knows, I am not unwilling to do the research - I am doing
the library and inter-library loan and Google and electronic resource search
stuff that goes along with every research project I've ever done.  I do know,
however, that in a subject as specialized as this, some information is better
found through word of mouth or networking than by just looking for it.  I am
not trying to get out of doing the work (I am, in fact, doing this work as we
speak), but only asking for help from those who have had much more experience
with the horn than I have, and whose knowledge surpasses my own.  I do
appreciate any help, and assure you that it will serve as a guide for my own
research, not as the research itself.

David





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 Now begin the diatribes about students not able to use the library, students
 not able to use Google, students not able to appreciate the fact that in my
 day I had to walk five miles to the practice hall in snow drifts five feet
 deep, uphill both ways.  
 
 
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RE: [Hornlist] Pieces with extended techniques

2005-04-09 Thread Linda
Douglas Hill has written a book titled Extended Techniques For The Horn
Book And CD that is available, among other places, at Sheet Music Plus
online
http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/pages.html?cart=3322060647439261target=smp_de
tail.html%26sku%3DWB.EL96105CDs=pages-no-referrere=/sheetmusic/detail/WB.E
L96105CD.htmlt=k=r=wwws-err5

He has also published pieces using extended techniques. You can find a bio
and music listing at
http://www.reallygoodmusic.com/rgm.jsp?page=composers2compid=123149#music

Linda

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Hello everyone.  Our final project in our music history class is to write a
paper on a twentieth century work for your instrument (or featuring it
prominently) which utilizes extended techniques.  We have to perform
excerpts
from the work demonstrating these techniques.  I was wondering if there are
any
suggestions any of you might have about this subject.  Also, any ideas of
where
to quickly find information on these pieces and/or techniques would be
appreciated.  Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

David


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[Hornlist] Open Throat

2005-04-09 Thread Tokidoleg
What is is good vowel to say to open the throat? 
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[Hornlist] Villanelle

2005-04-09 Thread William Foss
As strange as this might sound, I am a High school senior who played 
Villanelle by Paul Dukas for the solo  ensemble contest.
I got a One rating and will advance to the state level. I have been 
working on this piece for about a year, to get it to this point (which 
earned me a scholarship at Central Missouri State University, where I am 
going to study Horn in the fall) and I am wondering what kinds of advice 
everyone can offer on this piece.
Also, if anyone can tell me about any good recordings of Villanelle, I 
have the Brain recording, have heard the Baumann recording a few times, and 
am having trouble finding the Arthur Berv recording.

Thanks,
William Foss
The various viewpoints on Horn tone are held with such fierce devotion that 
one encounters otherwise in religious controversies. -Gunther Schuller

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Re: [Hornlist] Open Throat

2005-04-09 Thread Carlberg Jones

At 8:35 PM -0400 4/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is is good vowel to say to open the throat?


A?

Altoids?

Carlberg Jones
Guanajuato, Gto.
MEXICO


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Re: RE: [Hornlist] Open Throat

2005-04-09 Thread Steven Slaff
The syllables most commonly taught are ah, oh, or ooh for an open and 
less restricted airway. Translated into articulation, this means attacking a 
note with tah, toh, or too.  I was just thumbing through the book on Arnold 
Jacobs by Brian Frederikson and this is what Jacobs (among others) recommended.

Steven Slaff

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 Short a, as in father.  
 
 When singing, ideally the throat is open for all vowels.
 
 For ah the mouth is also wide open and the tongue flat.  
 Gradually raising
 the tongue causes ah to become a as it cat, then eh, a 
 sound which
 doesn't really exist in English and is instead usually mangled 
 into what's
 known as a vanishing diphthong, followed by i as in hit and 
 finallyending in ee as in feet.
 
 Closing the mouth changes ah into aw, then oh, another sound not
 really present in spoken English, then finally oo as in boot.
 
 In languages other than American English, some combinations of a 
 raisedtongue and a closed mouth may be found, e.g., Goethe 
 (properly written with
 an umlaut 'o' which I don't know how to do on my American 
 keyboard), u
 with an umlaut as in the German word for brother, most famously 
 rememberedby me as part of Goethe's text in Beethoven's Ninth 
 Symphony's final
 movement.
 
 Lest the most important concept be lost in the diction soliloquy 
 above, let
 me repeat: When singing, ideally the throat is open for all vowels.
 
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